Traitors for Exile

[Poison]

im not the cop btw

you claimed It before btw

I am aware of that

so you are emphasizing on it because you really love your role?

[Poison]

Then why did you lie?

I claimed in the first post of the game and then it was funny that people thought I was really the cop.

Smh.

[MacDougall]

The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

[MacDougall]

im not the cop btw

you claimed It before btw

I am aware of that

so you are emphasizing on it because you really love your role?

Reread the post.

[Poison]

im not the cop btw

you claimed It before btw

I am aware of that

so you are emphasizing on it because you really love your role?

Reread the post.

I see why I don't get good grades. My bad Mac .

So do we believe the host would force the cop to claim yay or nay?

Seems weird but if we're in a setup where it is pretty much optimal for the cop to claim immediately then I don't see why not (it would prevent a player who is less experienced or a lurker from playing suboptimally if they randed the role and causing town to perform worse as a result).

I'm happy to just believe that Mac is the cop and telling the truth about whatever unless he gets counterclaimed.

If I was a traitor i’d counterclaim though.

talk to me about this. @MissSparkles How do you feel about Mac's claim and him taking it back. And why would you counter claim as a traitor?

[Poison]

The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Yeah that's me. btw what's your opinion on cop claim in this set up [although I'm not really aware of much of the set up myself, as of yet]

[Poison]

I wonder how we'll find the traitors

Do you think the traitors will try to contact eachother? Should we look for softs?

lmao this looks like exactly what you want to hunt for LMAO.

btw why name yourself cat and have a duck pfp?

[MacDougall]

The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Yeah that's me. btw what's your opinion on cop claim in this set up [although I'm not really aware of much of the set up myself, as of yet]

My opinion is that the cop should do what they feel comfortable doing.

[Poison]

We have a heavy reliance on the cop this game I think (thankfully there's a backup, on the off chance that there's a cc), which means that them claiming might not be in our best interest yet, because it'll give the Anti-Cop more info into who they should frame.

That said, claiming early would prevent cc wars from going down.

had you seen the Mac claim at this point?

Marmot knows I'm KZA

Marmot might just be town

I agree tbh.

Like traitors probably are not gonna make obvious softs, so bringing about an idea like that feels slimy. It’s lije “I’m just gonna be shut down by town but hopefully my fellow traitors can deduce my true intentions of TRYING TO FIND MY FELLOW TRAITORS

I do agree with your point but i got a similar vibe from you/turtle guy convo before. Seemed like there was some sort of agenda from someone, can't pin point, but I wasn't really expecting the progression.

Ok, cool, I read the rules now. Four Lost Wolves, and it's ideal to send Traitors to Exile despite the poll removal factor. Regular chops by Day.

LC to the rescue hype hype!

[MissSparkles]

I wonder how we'll find the traitors

Do you think the traitors will try to contact eachother? Should we look for softs?

Would bringing up the idea be consistent as a soft cause I feel ot is, bringing up strategies for traitors like this ain’t a good look.

Vote Cat

The more strategies traitors take from us, the better, means we know what to look for.

Would bringing up the idea be consistent as a soft cause I feel ot is, bringing up strategies for traitors like this ain’t a good look.

Vote Cat

This is kind of towny even if I don't fully agree with the conclusion but keep going

I really like the volume.

Yeeting based on interactions is impossible this game and I’d look closely at people doing it, it would be a try to look productive/good tactic here.

Not saying that’s what Wiml is doing here though

It's not impossible. Like for example right now i'm seemed suspicious because of my question. What we can analyze is how people react to it. Who thinks i'm wolf, and who thinks i'm town? What's their reaction? Stuff like that.

I'm gonna start with someone yet to sling any mud

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

See if he dances for us

Why would he dance on a random accusation?

I can hope can't I

It wasn't even a random accusation. ''yet to sling any mud'' is perfectly viable.
[VOTE: KZA] aubergine

I'm gonna lightly town lean 112 for both their posts being the type that could attract unwanted attention as scum

It's a little bit on the nose for me. Giving a hot take just because it's hot. That's the vibe i get from that.

Reactions aren’t the same as interactions but I think you know this. Maybe not I guess?

[MissSparkles]

Cat!

What's your overall thoughts? Like, not reads, just general thoughts about the gamestate.

I like that i'm the center of attention. Don't like the conclusion that i am a scum softing traitor, and what don't like that there was more discussion about cop and exiles than what traitors gameplan is going to be. The cop is irrelevant, and just exile town. Let's talk about traitors instead.

Disagree. I thought about talking traitors gameplan and ended up thinking I'll probably help traitors play properly and I'd rather not. I'll save that until later.

Do you think thread has been town or wolf-controlled?

^^^ this.

[MissSparkles]

I know what I'm looking for, but I'm not gonna say "Good wolves plays like this" because that would probably help wolves more than town.

Are fools more likely to be town or wolves?

I think I said as much but I agree a lot with what Wisdom is saying here.

I also have a couple of things I want to add along the lines of "I think a traitor would do X" or etc but doing that now just either exhausts tells so that they become pretty much useless or gives the wolves ideas on what to do / what not to do.

This.

I'm gonna out wolves when they've done wolfy stuff to push and kill them.

I'm not gonna talk about how wolves are gonna play this game because they will adjust and be even harder to catch.

Cat is just way too concerned with Traitors Strategy for my liking tbh.

[Poison]

I do have a couple more thoughts on the strategy this game, but I'm going to withhold them until everyone has checked in.


I do have a question for everyone though. I've reconsidered my original stance on the cop claiming, and I've seen a couple players advocating for it. Should we encourage the town cop to claim or not? At this moment, I'm leaning toward yes.

you town! this is what I liked about you and disliked in the previous mech convo probably.

to answer your question, I am the cop and I won't talk about it until I am offered three buckets of ice cream. < 3

Spoiler: show

I'm marmot!

Probably why i’m so often misyeeted on day one, the paranoia from players who’ve seen me as scum skews there judgement when I’m a pretty easy read on day one

are you a top poster as either alignment?

[MissSparkles]

Then why did you lie?

I claimed in the first post of the game and then it was funny that people thought I was really the cop.

Why lie about being a cop? What did you gain?

[MacDougall]

Then why did you lie?

I claimed in the first post of the game and then it was funny that people thought I was really the cop.

Why lie about being a cop? What did you gain?

Mild amusement.

[MacDougall]

Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

[Poison]

Then why did you lie?

I claimed in the first post of the game and then it was funny that people thought I was really the cop.

Why lie about being a cop? What did you gain?

Mild amusement.

L M A O.

[Poison]

Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

No I am.

but why would you uncover him?

[MissSparkles]

I do have a couple more thoughts on the strategy this game, but I'm going to withhold them until everyone has checked in.


I do have a question for everyone though. I've reconsidered my original stance on the cop claiming, and I've seen a couple players advocating for it. Should we encourage the town cop to claim or not? At this moment, I'm leaning toward yes.

you town! this is what I liked about you and disliked in the previous mech convo probably.

to answer your question, I am the cop and I won't talk about it until I am offered three buckets of ice cream. < 3

Spoiler: show

I'm marmot!

Probably why i’m so often misyeeted on day one, the paranoia from players who’ve seen me as scum skews there judgement when I’m a pretty easy read on day one

are you a top poster as either alignment?

Yes, but i’m much less involved as scum on day one, I post and keep activity but not like I do as town. As town I drive interactions and pressure peeps a lot more then I tend too as scum.

[MacDougall]

Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

No I am.

but why would you uncover him?

Mild amusement.

[Wisdom]

Mac v

[MissSparkles]

Then why did you lie?

I claimed in the first post of the game and then it was funny that people thought I was really the cop.

Why lie about being a cop? What did you gain?

Mild amusement.

I mean I knew the host probably wouldn’t force you too claim, and I said as much.

[Poison]

Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

No I am.

but why would you uncover him?

Mild amusement.

I take my LMAO back.

Now I'll LoL you, Lots of Lizards. Made me claim, smh.

[Poison]

Mac v

this tbh.

[MacDougall]

Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

No I am.

but why would you uncover him?

Mild amusement.

I take my LMAO back.

Now I'll LoL you, Lots of Lizards. Made me claim, smh.

I retract my retraction.

[MacDougall]

Thanks for the cover though.

[Poison]

@Wisdom Can we please take a moment and appreciate your avatar?

this should be the theme song!!!

[MissSparkles]

The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

[Poison]

Thanks for the cover though.

Not doing it for free sir, when you'll be out being the cop, I'll steal the ice creams from your fridge

[Poison]

The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

[MacDougall]

The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

Papercuts suck though.

[MissSparkles]

im not the cop btw

you claimed It before btw

I am aware of that

so you are emphasizing on it because you really love your role?

Reread the post.

I see why I don't get good grades. My bad Mac .

So do we believe the host would force the cop to claim yay or nay?

Seems weird but if we're in a setup where it is pretty much optimal for the cop to claim immediately then I don't see why not (it would prevent a player who is less experienced or a lurker from playing suboptimally if they randed the role and causing town to perform worse as a result).

I'm happy to just believe that Mac is the cop and telling the truth about whatever unless he gets counterclaimed.

If I was a traitor i’d counterclaim though.

talk to me about this. @MissSparkles How do you feel about Mac's claim and him taking it back. And why would you counter claim as a traitor?

Because YOLO. Best case scenario he was telling the truth and the cop dies, worse case, i get eliminated the next day and allow my teammates to settle in comfortably.

[MacDougall]

What is the plural of wine?

[Poison]

What is the plural of wine?

idk I'm underage.

[MissSparkles]

The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

I mean the cop should obvi stay in the shadows (like the real GENGAR; not humpty dumpty). And wait till he has info to give us to even say anything, why let the Traitor Cop know his identity so he can try and outguess their target?

[MacDougall]

The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

I mean the cop should obvi stay in the shadows (like the real GENGAR; not humpty dumpty). And wait till he has info to give us to even say anything, why let the Traitor Cop know his identity so he can try and outguess their target?

I am targeting you

[Poison]

Spoiler: show

im not the cop btw

you claimed It before btw

I am aware of that

so you are emphasizing on it because you really love your role?

Reread the post.

I see why I don't get good grades. My bad Mac .

So do we believe the host would force the cop to claim yay or nay?

Seems weird but if we're in a setup where it is pretty much optimal for the cop to claim immediately then I don't see why not (it would prevent a player who is less experienced or a lurker from playing suboptimally if they randed the role and causing town to perform worse as a result).

I'm happy to just believe that Mac is the cop and telling the truth about whatever unless he gets counterclaimed.

If I was a traitor i’d counterclaim though.

talk to me about this. @MissSparkles How do you feel about Mac's claim and him taking it back. And why would you counter claim as a traitor?

Because YOLO. Best case scenario he was telling the truth and the cop dies, worse case, i get eliminated the next day and allow my teammates to settle in comfortably.

re: MissSparkle

there's no nk, then wdym the cop dies?

[MacDougall]

got her

[Poison]

The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

I mean the cop should obvi stay in the shadows (like the real GENGAR; not humpty dumpty). And wait till he has info to give us to even say anything, why let the Traitor Cop know his identity so he can try and outguess their target?

I think in the beginning you had no problem with the cop claim tho

[MacDougall]

outed

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: sparky] aubergine

[MissSparkles]

Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

So you admit the only reason to fake claim cop is too try and gauge reactions to spot the real one. Cause i’m not thinking it accomplished anything else useful except your mild amusement.

Not everyone can just be amusing by using there vocabulary; and making there words sound fun:

But I guess that’s why, you’re the opening act at the local comedy club and I main event just for laughs 🎙

[MacDougall]

Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

So you admit the only reason to fake claim cop is too try and gauge reactions to spot the real one. Cause i’m not thinking it accomplished anything else useful except your mild amusement.

Not everyone can just be amusing by using there vocabulary; and making there words sound fun:

But I guess that’s why, you’re the opening act at the local comedy club and I main event just for laughs 🎙

exactly

[MissSparkles]

The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

I mean the cop should obvi stay in the shadows (like the real GENGAR; not humpty dumpty). And wait till he has info to give us to even say anything, why let the Traitor Cop know his identity so he can try and outguess their target?

I think in the beginning you had no problem with the cop claim tho

Because I thought it was a legit claim, cause I asked. So I was like whatever not the end of the world and adapted.

[MissSparkles]

Spoiler: show

you claimed It before btw

I am aware of that

so you are emphasizing on it because you really love your role?

Reread the post.

I see why I don't get good grades. My bad Mac .

So do we believe the host would force the cop to claim yay or nay?

Seems weird but if we're in a setup where it is pretty much optimal for the cop to claim immediately then I don't see why not (it would prevent a player who is less experienced or a lurker from playing suboptimally if they randed the role and causing town to perform worse as a result).

I'm happy to just believe that Mac is the cop and telling the truth about whatever unless he gets counterclaimed.

If I was a traitor i’d counterclaim though.

talk to me about this. @MissSparkles How do you feel about Mac's claim and him taking it back. And why would you counter claim as a traitor?

Because YOLO. Best case scenario he was telling the truth and the cop dies, worse case, i get eliminated the next day and allow my teammates to settle in comfortably.

re: MissSparkle

there's no nk, then wdym the cop dies?

Are u dumb, they’d potentially get yeeted after my CC.

[Poison]

Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

So you admit the only reason to fake claim cop is too try and gauge reactions to spot the real one. Cause i’m not thinking it accomplished anything else useful except your mild amusement.

Not everyone can just be amusing by using there vocabulary; and making there words sound fun:

But I guess that’s why, you’re the opening act at the local comedy club and I main event just for laughs 🎙

I am not sure what you are trying to say here exactly cause I don't think Mac tried to explain something against of what you are saying?

[Poison]

Spoiler: show

I am aware of that

so you are emphasizing on it because you really love your role?

Reread the post.

I see why I don't get good grades. My bad Mac .

So do we believe the host would force the cop to claim yay or nay?

Seems weird but if we're in a setup where it is pretty much optimal for the cop to claim immediately then I don't see why not (it would prevent a player who is less experienced or a lurker from playing suboptimally if they randed the role and causing town to perform worse as a result).

I'm happy to just believe that Mac is the cop and telling the truth about whatever unless he gets counterclaimed.

If I was a traitor i’d counterclaim though.

talk to me about this. @MissSparkles How do you feel about Mac's claim and him taking it back. And why would you counter claim as a traitor?

Because YOLO. Best case scenario he was telling the truth and the cop dies, worse case, i get eliminated the next day and allow my teammates to settle in comfortably.

re: MissSparkle

there's no nk, then wdym the cop dies?

Are u dumb, they’d potentially get yeeted after my CC.

yes I am.

But I don't think either the CC or the cop would get yeeted that easily, unless it's the end of the world.

[MissSparkles]

The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

Nah they don’t, but I’d stay hidden as the cop. Cause that’s how I’d play it

[MacDougall]

The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

I mean the cop should obvi stay in the shadows (like the real GENGAR; not humpty dumpty). And wait till he has info to give us to even say anything, why let the Traitor Cop know his identity so he can try and outguess their target?

I think in the beginning you had no problem with the cop claim tho

Because I thought it was a legit claim, cause I asked. So I was like whatever not the end of the world and adapted.

adopting is a really great thing to do. I'm proud of u.

[MacDougall]

The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

Nah they don’t, but I’d stay hidden as the cop. Cause that’s how I’d play it

is this a claim?