PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [END]

[outed wolf]

I would be p shocked if Nutella is a wolf

My impression of their wolf game from mashes is much different to this one

I think the answer is just in C4/syn

[staypositivefriend]

yo

[nutella]

Yeah I'm like, pretty confident it's just dya and [c4/syn]

[Dyslexicon]

Forgot about Syn tbh.

And hear you about Nut. But I’ll revisit the vibes anyway. I think interaction is something I do well.

Could just be c4.

[Amy]

[VOTE: dyachei] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

And gg @sunbae
I think you saved this for us tbh tbh

[outed wolf]

that bink of vulgard was a+

quality stuff

[dyachei]

i lolcat as all alignments

even amy pointed this out

[c4e5g3d5]

Why can't it be Dizzy
Why is Dizzy so universally safe

Like if we all agree on me/Dizzy/Syn then I'm fine basically just leaving this to you and dipping

[outed wolf]

Why can't it be Dizzy
Why is Dizzy so universally safe

Like if we all agree on me/Dizzy/Syn then I'm fine basically just leaving this to you and dipping

why can it be dizzy

walk us through this

[staypositivefriend]

i got added to a chat with syn last night - we spoke briefly, but not nearly as much as would have been ideal

here are the headlines:

syn thinks that dyachei is a villager. they think so because they don't believe that dyachei would give up and lolcat so easily, and that they'd be more likely to put up a fight as a wolf

syn thinks that outed wolf is wolfy because he's joking around a lot. when i pressed syn on this read a little bit, he said that the wolfread stems from visor behaving differently from the town games he's seen from him in the past

syn thought that he would be the chop today (and he specifically mentioned that he would be the chop because a lot of players think he's associated with vulgard/dya, even though syn personally townreads dya, and i wondered if that was a bit of a perspective slip - it felt like syn was unconsciously referring to dyachei as a wolf even though he didn't wolfread them

this exchange between the two of us left me feeling like a syn/dyachei world is a legitimate possibility - syn's townread on dya felt pretty flimsy to me, but it would make sense coming from him as a wolf that wants to avoid pushing on his partner. in general, he didn't feel very villagery during our conversation

[Amy]

dya i'm not voting you because i think your lolcatting was wolf indicative, i'm voting you because i think you're wolfing lol

[Dyslexicon]

Why can't it be Dizzy
Why is Dizzy so universally safe

Like if we all agree on me/Dizzy/Syn then I'm fine basically just leaving this to you and dipping

Read my iso then or pay attention. Or tell me why I’m not.

[nutella]

dizzy is literally the reason sunbae chose vulgard

he pointed out those vulgard/dya w/w looking things

dizzy does not do that if hes teamed with them, he does that as astute village

dizzy is not a wolf

[c4e5g3d5]

Why can't it be Dizzy
Why is Dizzy so universally safe

Like if we all agree on me/Dizzy/Syn then I'm fine basically just leaving this to you and dipping

why can it be dizzy

walk us through this

Dizzy isn't obvtown
Dizzy isn't hard spewed by anything I've seen
Therefore

[Syn]

Arete is probably not w/w with syn because of the d1 wall case on tangy, fwiw.

nobody is w/w with syn

[c4e5g3d5]

dizzy is literally the reason sunbae chose vulgard

he pointed out those vulgard/dya w/w looking things

dizzy does not do that if hes teamed with them, he does that as astute village

dizzy is not a wolf

Where was this

[nutella]

i got added to a chat with syn last night - we spoke briefly, but not nearly as much as would have been ideal

here are the headlines:

syn thinks that dyachei is a villager. they think so because they don't believe that dyachei would give up and lolcat so easily, and that they'd be more likely to put up a fight as a wolf

syn thinks that outed wolf is wolfy because he's joking around a lot. when i pressed syn on this read a little bit, he said that the wolfread stems from visor behaving differently from the town games he's seen from him in the past

syn thought that he would be the chop today (and he specifically mentioned that he would be the chop because a lot of players think he's associated with vulgard/dya, even though syn personally townreads dya, and i wondered if that was a bit of a perspective slip - it felt like syn was unconsciously referring to dyachei as a wolf even though he didn't wolfread them

this exchange between the two of us left me feeling like a syn/dyachei world is a legitimate possibility - syn's townread on dya felt pretty flimsy to me, but it would make sense coming from him as a wolf that wants to avoid pushing on his partner. in general, he didn't feel very villagery during our conversation

cool lol

thats basically the solve im on rn, just thinking about dya's shift from hard tring tangchloe to pushing them yesterday, plus i think c4 has a bit more going for him

[nutella]

dizzy is literally the reason sunbae chose vulgard

he pointed out those vulgard/dya w/w looking things

dizzy does not do that if hes teamed with them, he does that as astute village

dizzy is not a wolf

Where was this

dizzy requoted it at sod just now, and sunbae cited it as the reason he targeted vulgard in one of his long posts

[Arete]

Why can't it be Dizzy
Why is Dizzy so universally safe

I thought Dizzy's case on Vul on day 2 (?) where she argued that Vul was potentially W/W with Dya because of the specific diction he used to talk about Dya didn't feel like a case on a partner (particularly a townread partner -- wolves on D2 wouldn't really have had any need to go out of their way to case Vul)

which is especially true if Dya is a wolf

[Dyslexicon]

Why can't it be Dizzy
Why is Dizzy so universally safe

Like if we all agree on me/Dizzy/Syn then I'm fine basically just leaving this to you and dipping

This also seems fake to me. I just want this one person to also be in the PoE without any reason or explanation and then I’m totally fine cause that will make all the difference and I can chill. Don’t understand it.

I’m not the one.

[dyachei]

dya i'm not voting you because i think your lolcatting was wolf indicative, i'm voting you because i think you're wolfing lol

I was pointing this out for dizzy's use

[c4e5g3d5]

@sunbae I found the things that made me tinfoil Dya/Vulgard.
May or may not be extremely dumb.

I'm kinda townreading Dya for their consistent frustration over being scumread, but at the same time I can only mildly townread them for it for so long. This and their Alison scumread they've been repping for a while are the only things I remember Dya doing, while most other players have voiced reads on every other player in the game, done significant analysis, etc.

Using the word "repping" is interesting, because it doesn't signal to me a mindframe that it's a read Dya is having, but rather projecting.

However, first of all, lol language. And I also gathered that Vulgard, from what I understand, is not a native English speaker like myself. And I myself may misread the significance of this particular word here. But it crossed my mind.

I think I've been fairly consistent in saying that you haven't been exclusively tunneling Alison, but that your read on Alison is definitely the highlight of your contributions so far. It's the first thing I associate with you in this game, outside of the constant defensive attitude. The defensive attitude part is something I could see being NAI based on how I saw you play as town sometimes, but yeah.

Speaking of reads outside of Alison, do the flips give you more reads outside of Alison? What do you think @ my townread of Alison?

Also this. I don't quite understand, because they say the defensive attitude could be NAI based on how they have seen Dya as town. Does this mean that Dya is not town here? Is it meant to say "based on how I saw you play as scum"? Am I reading this wrong or reading too much into this?

To be clear, I actually read Vulgard as more town. And I don't really have a read on Dya. But these are two things that crossed my mind, and they are very detailed, so it may just be me reading too much into things.

This?

...do we really think Dizzy wrote this thinking it would have an impact

[Dyslexicon]

Why can't it be Dizzy
Why is Dizzy so universally safe

Like if we all agree on me/Dizzy/Syn then I'm fine basically just leaving this to you and dipping

why can it be dizzy

walk us through this

Dizzy isn't obvtown
Dizzy isn't hard spewed by anything I've seen
Therefore

Then you just need to pay more attention.

But to be fair, I haven’t lol.

[Syn]

[VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine

[Arete]

syn thinks that dyachei is a villager. they think so because they don't believe that dyachei would give up and lolcat so easily, and that they'd be more likely to put up a fight as a wolf

fwiw I'm confident that this isn't true, in one of the hydra games (I think hydra game 3?) they were a wolf and spent a while lolcatting and then saying it wasn't wolf-AI

which it might not be, I'm willing to listen to the meta that they would do this as villa, but it's definitely not village indicative

[nutella]

...do we really think Dizzy wrote this thinking it would have an impact

whether or not he did, it's the kind of observation he p much only makes as town imo, and especially if dya is a wolf dizzy does not hard bus like that ime and is in fact very likely to make such accurate micro observations as town

[dyachei]

syn thinks that dyachei is a villager. they think so because they don't believe that dyachei would give up and lolcat so easily, and that they'd be more likely to put up a fight as a wolf

fwiw I'm confident that this isn't true, in one of the hydra games (I think hydra game 3?) they were a wolf and spent a while lolcatting and then saying it wasn't wolf-AI

which it might not be, I'm willing to listen to the meta that they would do this as villa, but it's definitely not village indicative

@Amy now's your time to shine

[bronana]

vulgard chloe dya

saying I've had no interest in solving this phase is flat out bullshit. idk what thread you are reading. I tried to maintain some semblance of JK cover after marl claimed, actually was pretty annoyed he did not wait for Sunbae to react to me first, but dropped it when Sunbae cc'd, thought that was obvious mr. "I thought zack was towny for softing a red on Sunbae"

for what it's worth the overnight post wasn't pre-written (why would it be anyway). I waited a couple hours after eod, took probably 20-30 minutes to write down my thoughts, then a few minutes to optimize emotes, then waited a few minutes before deciding to go ahead and post.

you keep shading me but never actually push. your worldview makes no sense, you have marl and Sunbae both as town somehow which presumes the wolves made incompetent night actions.

good night

what a cool sexy post

[nutella]

syn thought that he would be the chop today (and he specifically mentioned that he would be the chop because a lot of players think he's associated with vulgard/dya, even though syn personally townreads dya, and i wondered if that was a bit of a perspective slip - it felt like syn was unconsciously referring to dyachei as a wolf even though he didn't wolfread them

@Syn helo explianerino this

[Syn]

syn thinks that dyachei is a villager. they think so because they don't believe that dyachei would give up and lolcat so easily, and that they'd be more likely to put up a fight as a wolf

fwiw I'm confident that this isn't true, in one of the hydra games (I think hydra game 3?) they were a wolf and spent a while lolcatting and then saying it wasn't wolf-AI

which it might not be, I'm willing to listen to the meta that they would do this as villa, but it's definitely not village indicative

what I said to SPF is that in every game I've spec'd or played with dya, they get killed early as an SPK, so there is absolutely no reason for them to give up and lolcat just because a partner got outed and they had a bad read

[Syn]

syn thought that he would be the chop today (and he specifically mentioned that he would be the chop because a lot of players think he's associated with vulgard/dya, even though syn personally townreads dya, and i wondered if that was a bit of a perspective slip - it felt like syn was unconsciously referring to dyachei as a wolf even though he didn't wolfread them

@Syn helo explianerino this

what is there to explain

arete, sunbae, visor, zack, and spf have all said I am associated with vulgard and a pre-flipped dya

seems to parse that I would be on the docket of eliminations

[nutella]

syn thinks that dyachei is a villager. they think so because they don't believe that dyachei would give up and lolcat so easily, and that they'd be more likely to put up a fight as a wolf

fwiw I'm confident that this isn't true, in one of the hydra games (I think hydra game 3?) they were a wolf and spent a while lolcatting and then saying it wasn't wolf-AI

which it might not be, I'm willing to listen to the meta that they would do this as villa, but it's definitely not village indicative

what I said to SPF is that in every game I've spec'd or played with dya, they get killed early as an SPK, so there is absolutely no reason for them to give up and lolcat just because a partner got outed and they had a bad read

...what?

[Syn]

and to prove my point, several people have made SOD posts specifically saying I'm at the top of the POE after dya

this is not exactly brain surgery

[Syn]

syn thinks that dyachei is a villager. they think so because they don't believe that dyachei would give up and lolcat so easily, and that they'd be more likely to put up a fight as a wolf

fwiw I'm confident that this isn't true, in one of the hydra games (I think hydra game 3?) they were a wolf and spent a while lolcatting and then saying it wasn't wolf-AI

which it might not be, I'm willing to listen to the meta that they would do this as villa, but it's definitely not village indicative

what I said to SPF is that in every game I've spec'd or played with dya, they get killed early as an SPK, so there is absolutely no reason for them to give up and lolcat just because a partner got outed and they had a bad read

...what?

what

[nutella]

syn thought that he would be the chop today (and he specifically mentioned that he would be the chop because a lot of players think he's associated with vulgard/dya, even though syn personally townreads dya, and i wondered if that was a bit of a perspective slip - it felt like syn was unconsciously referring to dyachei as a wolf even though he didn't wolfread them

@Syn helo explianerino this

what is there to explain

arete, sunbae, visor, zack, and spf have all said I am associated with vulgard and a pre-flipped dya

seems to parse that I would be on the docket of eliminations

......even if we flip dya first and theyre somehow green like you purport to believe?

your perspective is off friendo

[nutella]

syn thinks that dyachei is a villager. they think so because they don't believe that dyachei would give up and lolcat so easily, and that they'd be more likely to put up a fight as a wolf

fwiw I'm confident that this isn't true, in one of the hydra games (I think hydra game 3?) they were a wolf and spent a while lolcatting and then saying it wasn't wolf-AI

which it might not be, I'm willing to listen to the meta that they would do this as villa, but it's definitely not village indicative

what I said to SPF is that in every game I've spec'd or played with dya, they get killed early as an SPK, so there is absolutely no reason for them to give up and lolcat just because a partner got outed and they had a bad read

...what?

what

what does them being SPKed as town have to do with how theyd react as wolf

also doesnt it occur to you that theres a reason their play here is miles removed from the games they were SPKed

i just dont understand your line of thinking at all

[Syn]

syn thought that he would be the chop today (and he specifically mentioned that he would be the chop because a lot of players think he's associated with vulgard/dya, even though syn personally townreads dya, and i wondered if that was a bit of a perspective slip - it felt like syn was unconsciously referring to dyachei as a wolf even though he didn't wolfread them

@Syn helo explianerino this

what is there to explain

arete, sunbae, visor, zack, and spf have all said I am associated with vulgard and a pre-flipped dya

seems to parse that I would be on the docket of eliminations

......even if we flip dya first and theyre somehow green like you purport to believe?

your perspective is off friendo

ok

[dyachei]

I should just start posting cats again with how likely I am to be listened to

[c4e5g3d5]

The point was clearly a throwaway point regardless of Dizzy's alignment
This isn't even in the range of discussing hard bussing
Are you guys saying Dizzy never does random shit as a wolf

Not to mention the obvious reason he could have spotted that as a wolf

[nutella]

and to prove my point, several people have made SOD posts specifically saying I'm at the top of the POE after dya

this is not exactly brain surgery

you are pretty clearly TMIing dya wolf rn

[Syn]

syn thinks that dyachei is a villager. they think so because they don't believe that dyachei would give up and lolcat so easily, and that they'd be more likely to put up a fight as a wolf

fwiw I'm confident that this isn't true, in one of the hydra games (I think hydra game 3?) they were a wolf and spent a while lolcatting and then saying it wasn't wolf-AI

which it might not be, I'm willing to listen to the meta that they would do this as villa, but it's definitely not village indicative

what I said to SPF is that in every game I've spec'd or played with dya, they get killed early as an SPK, so there is absolutely no reason for them to give up and lolcat just because a partner got outed and they had a bad read

...what?

what

what does them being SPKed as town have to do with how theyd react as wolf

also doesnt it occur to you that theres a reason their play here is miles removed from the games they were SPKed

i just dont understand your line of thinking at all

i guess i just like to think someone who is killed early due to wolf fear is perhaps someone who might be okay at wolfing too and doesn't do what constitutes as game-throwing

[nutella]

I should just start posting cats again with how likely I am to be listened to

yes please keep posting cats theyre cute and fun and make me feel less bad for you being dunked on

[Syn]

and to prove my point, several people have made SOD posts specifically saying I'm at the top of the POE after dya

this is not exactly brain surgery

you are pretty clearly TMIing dya wolf rn

yeah you're right you should chop me

[Syn]

well, that about does it for my WIM. enjoy

[Dyslexicon]

@sunbae I found the things that made me tinfoil Dya/Vulgard.
May or may not be extremely dumb.

I'm kinda townreading Dya for their consistent frustration over being scumread, but at the same time I can only mildly townread them for it for so long. This and their Alison scumread they've been repping for a while are the only things I remember Dya doing, while most other players have voiced reads on every other player in the game, done significant analysis, etc.

Using the word "repping" is interesting, because it doesn't signal to me a mindframe that it's a read Dya is having, but rather projecting.

However, first of all, lol language. And I also gathered that Vulgard, from what I understand, is not a native English speaker like myself. And I myself may misread the significance of this particular word here. But it crossed my mind.

I think I've been fairly consistent in saying that you haven't been exclusively tunneling Alison, but that your read on Alison is definitely the highlight of your contributions so far. It's the first thing I associate with you in this game, outside of the constant defensive attitude. The defensive attitude part is something I could see being NAI based on how I saw you play as town sometimes, but yeah.

Speaking of reads outside of Alison, do the flips give you more reads outside of Alison? What do you think @ my townread of Alison?

Also this. I don't quite understand, because they say the defensive attitude could be NAI based on how they have seen Dya as town. Does this mean that Dya is not town here? Is it meant to say "based on how I saw you play as scum"? Am I reading this wrong or reading too much into this?

To be clear, I actually read Vulgard as more town. And I don't really have a read on Dya. But these are two things that crossed my mind, and they are very detailed, so it may just be me reading too much into things.

This?

...do we really think Dizzy wrote this thinking it would have an impact

That’s besides the point frankly. I also brought it up already in my first reads from reading D2. It was something I quite distinctively picked up on. Reason I called it tinfoil was cause I townread Vul (probably influenced by thread and Arete specifically). There’s no need to bring that up, literally would be the two other wolves if I was the third. It was just a real connection and you can thank me if you’re town (but mostly thank Sunbae)

Also, if you try, you can tell the difference between real and fake thoughts.

Literally almost every game I call a pairing with a “haha, I’ll ignore it but it’s correct” and it turns out right. If I ever express myself in that manner, just sheep. Happened in champs, radiohead etc etc

[Amy]

syn thinks that dyachei is a villager. they think so because they don't believe that dyachei would give up and lolcat so easily, and that they'd be more likely to put up a fight as a wolf

fwiw I'm confident that this isn't true, in one of the hydra games (I think hydra game 3?) they were a wolf and spent a while lolcatting and then saying it wasn't wolf-AI

which it might not be, I'm willing to listen to the meta that they would do this as villa, but it's definitely not village indicative

@Amy now's your time to shine

@Arete dya posting cats rly is NAI lol

I should just start posting cats again with how likely I am to be listened to

i mean, right now my biggest issue is that you came into the day defending your catting instead of like... trying to actually solve the game

i get that it's a rough situation for you regardless of alignment, but if you're town it would be rly helpful for you to actually put in the work today. there are other suspects, your flipping isn't a guaranteed sure thing

[nutella]

well, that about does it for my WIM. enjoy

gg

[nutella]

Literally almost every game I call a pairing with a “haha, I’ll ignore it but it’s correct” and it turns out right. If I ever express myself in that manner, just sheep. Happened in champs, radiohead etc etc

yeah lol ur goat

[Amy]

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

tbh i'm actually MORE confident in this one

is that weird