Traitors for Exile

[112]

@112 do you have other strong thoughts not related to KZA?

Yes but they're personal.

praise Robert Svehla

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He was robbed of that Norris because the other guy had a big name.

[112]

I mean it was pretty obvious to me falcon was Captain Falcon amd i’m new here LOL

I hadn't seen him post to my memory though.

Fair.

He's lying, he and I had engaged each other last night

hmm

[112]

expecting to be ridiculed for this but i'm starting to think mac is just wolfing

see more reasons to think he's scum than to think he's town

pursuing the policy chop angle is weak and i'm not just saying that because kaz is a long-term pal in good standing of mine.

[Wisdom]

I'm gonna treat the exile phase as a night phase, I don't have the energy to play non-stop. Quote this post if you want to ask me something.

[Wisdom]

@Wisdom articulate your sus on Creature?

@Poison do you have any good town reads?

How do I see pings? Didn't see them before.

Creature read is basically one-post nonsense. He sounded wolfy talking about lost wolves. Didn't find a better place to place the vote.

[Wisdom]

I think next yeet should be between Mac and Poison.

If one of them flips town always yeet the other.
This is purely based on Mac's accuracy as town.

[MacDougall]

I think next yeet should be between Mac and Poison.

If one of them flips town always yeet the other.
This is purely based on Mac's accuracy as town.

What a fucking dogshit idea.

[MacDougall]

expecting to be ridiculed for this but i'm starting to think mac is just wolfing

see more reasons to think he's scum than to think he's town

pursuing the policy chop angle is weak and i'm not just saying that because kaz is a long-term pal in good standing of mine.

Who here would ridicule you for this?

I have been obvious town. This is paranoia gone wild or outing.

[Wisdom]

I think next yeet should be between Mac and Poison.

If one of them flips town always yeet the other.
This is purely based on Mac's accuracy as town.

What a fucking dogshit idea.

No u

Also why? No confidence in w!Poison?

[MacDougall]

I think next yeet should be between Mac and Poison.

If one of them flips town always yeet the other.
This is purely based on Mac's accuracy as town.

What a fucking dogshit idea.

No u

Also why? No confidence in w!Poison?

I have average confidence in it. But you implied I die first. You essentially implied you want to kill me to test my alignment in order to kill another player. This is never ever good play. Not just because you want to kill me for a shockingly bad reason im the midst of me trying to actually help the town but because I can be wrong and your simple plan can easily just kill two town. Also nobody ever agrees to this kinda plan its just wasteful to even force anyone to expend time discussing it.

You are now a scum lean again.

[Wisdom]

I think next yeet should be between Mac and Poison.

If one of them flips town always yeet the other.
This is purely based on Mac's accuracy as town.

What a fucking dogshit idea.

No u

Also why? No confidence in w!Poison?

I have average confidence in it. But you implied I die first. You essentially implied you want to kill me to test my alignment in order to kill another player. This is never ever good play. Not just because you want to kill me for a shockingly bad reason im the midst of me trying to actually help the town but because I can be wrong and your simple plan can easily just kill two town. Also nobody ever agrees to this kinda plan its just wasteful to even force anyone to expend time discussing it.

You are now a scum lean again.

It's just out of respect for your game. I've done the same with C4 if you know him. And you, before.
Like - The best strategy to handle skilled players with a high accuracy as town and a large range as wolf should be to yeet them as soon as they get confident reads and if they flip town then sheep their reads into oblivion.

I did that in the DM-game where we masoned, remember? As soon as you died, I sheeped your reads 100% and tried to get people to listen to them.

Also - I never implied that we should yeet you before Poison. I meant that next day should be about which one of you should die, because the best strat atm is to yeet one of you. If Poison flips v, kill you because you're probably wolfing. If Poison flips w, you're def town. If you flip v, kill Poison because your read were probably correct. If you flip w, Poison is def town.

Easy.

[Wisdom]

Like, I get that you don't like that- But I generally care for town to win more than I care about town to live. More often than not the dead townies reads are more useful than the living one's.

[MacDougall]

Okay. I am not down with your chop me plan. My reads are based on not enough information and I have a plan to remedy them. If you think you have a strategy for town better than mine then I would be keen to hear it.

[Wisdom]

Okay. I am not down with your chop me plan. My reads are based on not enough information and I have a plan to remedy them. If you think you have a strategy for town better than mine then I would be keen to hear it.

Haven't read your plan. At this point I think wolves either have found each other or don't care. Probably don't care, which makes it way harder to find them. But the jist is still to find oddballs that gives you the creeps and yeet the F out of them.

[MacDougall]

Okay. I am not down with your chop me plan. My reads are based on not enough information and I have a plan to remedy them. If you think you have a strategy for town better than mine then I would be keen to hear it.

Haven't read your plan. At this point I think wolves either have found each other or don't care. Probably don't care, which makes it way harder to find them. But the jist is still to find oddballs that gives you the creeps and yeet the F out of them.

Just read the post. That's literally the minimum requirement to play mafia.

[Wisdom]

Okay. I am not down with your chop me plan. My reads are based on not enough information and I have a plan to remedy them. If you think you have a strategy for town better than mine then I would be keen to hear it.

Haven't read your plan. At this point I think wolves either have found each other or don't care. Probably don't care, which makes it way harder to find them. But the jist is still to find oddballs that gives you the creeps and yeet the F out of them.

Just read the post. That's literally the minimum requirement to play mafia.

What post?

[MacDougall]

Okay. I am not down with your chop me plan. My reads are based on not enough information and I have a plan to remedy them. If you think you have a strategy for town better than mine then I would be keen to hear it.

Haven't read your plan. At this point I think wolves either have found each other or don't care. Probably don't care, which makes it way harder to find them. But the jist is still to find oddballs that gives you the creeps and yeet the F out of them.

Just read the post. That's literally the minimum requirement to play mafia.

What post?

[MacDougall]

This is how we lose.

[Wisdom]

Hi

I'm new here
But I know some of you
Just, have patience with me
I'm VT btw
For real this time
It's a hard claim

-> Mac

[Wisdom]

I don't know how to see when people ping me
I have no idea what post you're talking about
I'm not going to read every post in the game
I just realized how to ISO though so that's a plus

[Wisdom]

This is how we lose.

Also not if you think I'm wolfing?

[Wisdom]

The only thing that chop tells us is that giving zero fucks is in people's town range. We probably should kill KZA technically because clearing day 1 c/ws is usually a good play. Definitely not exiling him.

Exile Wiml imo.

wagonomics are irrelevant tho

Not here they aren't. We haven't got much else empirical to work with so lower percentage things become more valuable. I think KZA has a good chance to be a wolf just simply for having been run up. If a bunch of people who were all realsolving (keep in mind that's occurring here, it's no different than multiball in that sense) all sort of coalesced on KZA, then it's pretty strong. Wisdom of the crowd is a big time tell here.

If town really wants to win that game, the simplest method is to put in effort and create a threadstate that is anti-bullshit. I know I contributed heavily to the bullshit day 1, but I really wasn't ready to start the game when it started so I was kinda being a direspectful turd. Having had a chance to think about it sitting on my ass in a chair as opposed to half asleep with a phone hanging out of my hand, I realise that was anti-town of me and I intend not to do it anymore.

Strategy to win this game: Force everyone to realsolve. The wisdom of the crowd will be strong in this game. Trust the consensus. Force everyone to share their reads. Stamp out bullshit and make it a very serious and unfun game.

That's our path to victory here.

This said post?

[MacDougall]

yes

[Wisdom]

So why did you save KZA by voting cat?

[Poison]

The thread's open at night phase

[Poison]

I think next yeet should be between Mac and Poison.

If one of them flips town always yeet the other.
This is purely based on Mac's accuracy as town.

What a fucking dogshit idea.

No u

Also why? No confidence in w!Poison?

I have average confidence in it. But you implied I die first. You essentially implied you want to kill me to test my alignment in order to kill another player. This is never ever good play. Not just because you want to kill me for a shockingly bad reason im the midst of me trying to actually help the town but because I can be wrong and your simple plan can easily just kill two town. Also nobody ever agrees to this kinda plan its just wasteful to even force anyone to expend time discussing it.

You are now a scum lean again.

It's just out of respect for your game. I've done the same with C4 if you know him. And you, before.
Like - The best strategy to handle skilled players with a high accuracy as town and a large range as wolf should be to yeet them as soon as they get confident reads and if they flip town then sheep their reads into oblivion.

I did that in the DM-game where we masoned, remember? As soon as you died, I sheeped your reads 100% and tried to get people to listen to them.

Also - I never implied that we should yeet you before Poison. I meant that next day should be about which one of you should die, because the best strat atm is to yeet one of you. If Poison flips v, kill you because you're probably wolfing. If Poison flips w, you're def town. If you flip v, kill Poison because your read were probably correct. If you flip w, Poison is def town.

Easy.

[Poison]

I think next yeet should be between Mac and Poison.

If one of them flips town always yeet the other.
This is purely based on Mac's accuracy as town.

What a fucking dogshit idea.

No u

Also why? No confidence in w!Poison?

I have average confidence in it. But you implied I die first. You essentially implied you want to kill me to test my alignment in order to kill another player. This is never ever good play. Not just because you want to kill me for a shockingly bad reason im the midst of me trying to actually help the town but because I can be wrong and your simple plan can easily just kill two town. Also nobody ever agrees to this kinda plan its just wasteful to even force anyone to expend time discussing it.

You are now a scum lean again.

It's just out of respect for your game. I've done the same with C4 if you know him. And you, before.
Like - The best strategy to handle skilled players with a high accuracy as town and a large range as wolf should be to yeet them as soon as they get confident reads and if they flip town then sheep their reads into oblivion.

I did that in the DM-game where we masoned, remember? As soon as you died, I sheeped your reads 100% and tried to get people to listen to them.

Also - I never implied that we should yeet you before Poison. I meant that next day should be about which one of you should die, because the best strat atm is to yeet one of you. If Poison flips v, kill you because you're probably wolfing. If Poison flips w, you're def town. If you flip v, kill Poison because your read were probably correct. If you flip w, Poison is def town.

Easy.

Wait, why is mac wolf in a world when I'm town?

[Wisdom]

Because being wrong is wolf indicative for him.

[Poison]

I think next yeet should be between Mac and Poison.

If one of them flips town always yeet the other.
This is purely based on Mac's accuracy as town.

What a fucking dogshit idea.

No u

Also why? No confidence in w!Poison?

I'm not sure if i should be happy by this or sad. cause Mac claimed to have seen me as all alignments.

@MacDougall show your confidence mate! if you flip flop on me that ain't helping you or me, we will be two lost wolves suddenly met in a jungle in everyone's world.

[Poison]

Because being wrong is wolf indicative for him.

but honestly he read me wrong when I was town before but I don't remember if he was town or wolf that game. lemme check.

[Poison]

@MacDougall were you scum in overtime and shadow mafia?

[MacDougall]

I think next yeet should be between Mac and Poison.

If one of them flips town always yeet the other.
This is purely based on Mac's accuracy as town.

What a fucking dogshit idea.

No u

Also why? No confidence in w!Poison?

I'm not sure if i should be happy by this or sad. cause Mac claimed to have seen me as all alignments.

@MacDougall show your confidence mate! if you flip flop on me that ain't helping you or me, we will be two lost wolves suddenly met in a jungle in everyone's world.

what does this even mean?

[Poison]

I think next yeet should be between Mac and Poison.

If one of them flips town always yeet the other.
This is purely based on Mac's accuracy as town.

What a fucking dogshit idea.

No u

Also why? No confidence in w!Poison?

I'm not sure if i should be happy by this or sad. cause Mac claimed to have seen me as all alignments.

@MacDougall show your confidence mate! if you flip flop on me that ain't helping you or me, we will be two lost wolves suddenly met in a jungle in everyone's world.

what does this even mean?

I read you as town, so if we get yeeted, the other would get elimed next, two town elims and our losing percentage gets higher.

[Poison]

wait marmot is actually doc with a red check! nice

[Poison]

Poison do you intend to vote?

I'm planning to vote sparkle, but that vote ain't lynching her so it would be a waste. I'll rather iso the top wagons quickly.

I'm confused about your progression here. What makes you think that Sparkles' anger at Mac was wolf indicative? Especially to the degree of flipping your read on her?

My man Wiml asking the real questions here, thanks babe.

I was annoyed that I was lead to believe Mac was the cop and felt lied too cause I asked him seriously about it cause in this game i could why claiming cop early would be done by some players even if I wouldn’t do it that way (Marmy’s way was the way). Then when he trolled me I got upset, yay for hormones (well most of the time LOL).

There’s absolutely nothing alignment indicative about a bitch fit.

@MissSparkles The real question your babe asked here, um he took it back so -

Poison do you intend to vote?

I'm planning to vote sparkle, but that vote ain't lynching her so it would be a waste. I'll rather iso the top wagons quickly.

I'm confused about your progression here. What makes you think that Sparkles' anger at Mac was wolf indicative? Especially to the degree of flipping your read on her?

Can you point out my flipping post? Appreciated.

ISO me, I think I have talked about her quite a lot.

Nvm, you were referring exclusively to Mac and not both Mac and Sparkles.

[Poison]

honestly, at this point even i think Sparkle's gaming style is making her seem sus to me rather than the contents. rip.

[Poison]

So why did you save KZA by voting cat?

Shouldn't you ask me this tho? Cause I broke the tie and cat was leading even before mac voted.

[Poison]

Actually why am I even supporting mac so blindly . he is not even town reading me smh. smh. Anyways, I still don't think KZA is wolf, their ISO didn't seem pressured at all and with 5 votes and leading wagon I would have expected something from her.

@Long Con are you a traitor this game?

[Poison]

@Long Con look above!!

[Wisdom]

So why did you save KZA by voting cat?

Shouldn't you ask me this tho? Cause I broke the tie and cat was leading even before mac voted.

Mac's the one implying that I'm wolf because I didn't read the post where we should have yeeted you, and then followed up by making sure you wasn't yeeted.

[Long Con]

Actually why am I even supporting mac so blindly . he is not even town reading me smh. smh. Anyways, I still don't think KZA is wolf, their ISO didn't seem pressured at all and with 5 votes and leading wagon I would have expected something from her.

@Long Con are you a traitor this game?

No, I'm not a traitor. Is that Gira plan still a go?

[Gavial]

Exile Phase has Ended

Gira (1) - WimI
KGMurphy (2) - Mac Dongull, KZA
Wisdom (2+ Self Vote) - KGMurphy, Poison, Wisdom
112 (3) Gira, Captain Falcon, Misssparkles

As the villagers gather around they decide that it’s unsafe for everyone to be here and as such send the person they deem to be the most innocent straight to exile for the next day!
112 has been sent to exile!

It is now Day 2!

[MissSparkles]

Okay. I am not down with your chop me plan. My reads are based on not enough information and I have a plan to remedy them. If you think you have a strategy for town better than mine then I would be keen to hear it.

What are your reads?

[MissSparkles]

Not sure I understand Mac’s exile vote given he wants to take a no bullshit approach.

Murphy’s posts have mostly been the exactly that.

[Auwt]

I am just going to follow the trend then for now.

Hi! Have you read any of the points against cat? If you have, would you mind saying who's you agreed with and why?

I wonder how we'll find the traitors

Do you think the traitors will try to contact eachother? Should we look for softs?

I have bad feeling coming from this exact post though, I would not really expect a town to write this at all as an entrance.
This looks odd for a first post, starting with an inclusive sentence (use of "we", to appear townier?), alongside two questions.
Posting questions usually comes as a great initiative and show how willing you are to solve the game, but here it feels like Cat is trying to distance themself from the traitors?
At the same time Cat might want to encourage the traitors doing so (contact each other) with this kind of post.
Overall I do no see a town ground in this post.

I have a bad feeling about your bad feeling. This guy obviously has traitor knowledge, we should search their house.

Interesting, could you elaborate?
What kind of [ extra ] knowledge a traitor should have over a vt (spoiler: looking at the setup I don't see anything supporting this statement) ?
You seem to be very well aware of it, since you have literally written "this guy obviously has traitor knwledge".

I know how traitor scum mafia people work. Im a psychologist. This whole lobby is easily performing reverse psychology to fool me into thinking town are scum and scum are town.

Oh yeah you know how traitor scum mafia people work.
Great but that does not directly answer my question.
[VOTE: KGMurphy] aubergine

On a side note, sorry I expected a real night phase, thus explaining why I haven't been active during the last "Exile phase".

[Creature]

Would traitors out themselves to get themselves exiled?

[falcon45ca]

Would traitors out themselves to get themselves exiled?

Out themselves as traitors? Then why would we exile them instead of lynching them? I'm not sure what you mean

[falcon45ca]

Not sure I understand Mac’s exile vote given he wants to take a no bullshit approach.

Murphy’s posts have mostly been the exactly that.

He's a Traitor. Mac is attempting to grab control of the town and Mayor it into oblivion. I've seen him do it before

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: VOTE MAC] aubergine

[Creature]

Would traitors out themselves to get themselves exiled?

Out themselves as traitors? Then why would we exile them instead of lynching them? I'm not sure what you mean

I mean doing something deliberately outing like selfvoting in exile phase as an attempt to get themselves exiled at the cost of being outed.