Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Made I appreciate your efforts to get involved, but I can't say I have any idea where you're going with any of that.

[Made]

What even is a modified tracker?

What are your thoughts on the claims of living players? Why have you not claimed?

I think the attention you're putting on me is odd but i kinda appreciate it cuz it grounds my play. The Desperado stuff on you give you a pass for today, but if i were around I'd prob tinfoil at Fx

I like lomo's case on Jay, I think Jay/guilo interactions need to be looked at by non Jay person that's not comf biased as you seem to be on jay. This is doubly true if Martin is town and we're correctly assuming we have 2 scum left. Jay has the gavial hell in the cell working for him, but I do see him being the kind of confident player who would be willing to go for that play for the wifom

I wouldn't put faking mason's past Nanook, it's seeming like this game has a lot of btsc, so the idea of a neutral or evil align btsc sounds, but the case isn't really that compelling to me.

I think Mac's town on tone, he's as meme-y as he was in zelda mash and modern family, in comparison to spiderman where he ignored all my jokes. I think the fact that we're being shipped means we either only have one scum left in a player with less associative reads like martin, or it's just Jay/Guillo. based on my read of threads state, one scum is prob most likely

Allcrab reads fairly clean to me, but that might just be lack of familiarity with the player compared to the

I've already spoken on Alison, and I don't feel like being roasted on TangleStarkPro again. this is all off the top, so if i'm forgetting someone, that person auto sus af for missing my radar

but yeah, sorry for inactivity y'all, i normally don't get too into a game unless we're losing, or i'm getting turbo'd and that didn't really happen till today. I think we still got this tho

[Made]

@Made I appreciate your efforts to get involved, but I can't say I have any idea where you're going with any of that.

just trynna see if y'all missed some stones, legacy reads from sean could of been huge

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If you think the mason claims can be fake, pairing me with Guillosooa is a bizarre choice.

[Made]

Garden gnome missed the radar, smh

@Garden Gnome whatchu bout?

[Made]

If you think the mason claims can be fake, pairing me with Guillosooa is a bizarre choice.

how so? didn't y'all claim lovers or something?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

What’s this about past alison claiming redirector? @Alison @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

She said she was at some point idr when

End of day 2 or 3 iirc

[Sloonei]

I shook my head in disagreement three or four times reading Made’s big post.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If you think the mason claims can be fake, pairing me with Guillosooa is a bizarre choice.

how so? didn't y'all claim lovers or something?

You're doing it again, I'm afraid.

Gnome and I are casual lovers. Guillotine and Nanook are masons.

[Sloonei]

If you think the mason claims can be fake, pairing me with Guillosooa is a bizarre choice.

how so? didn't y'all claim lovers or something?

You acknowledged that nanook had claimed mason in your post.

[Made]

If you think the mason claims can be fake, pairing me with Guillosooa is a bizarre choice.

how so? didn't y'all claim lovers or something?

You're doing it again, I'm afraid.

Gnome and I are casual lovers. Guillotine and Nanook are masons.

do you and Gnome have btsc?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't think lost monkey is mafia. Two mafia are contained within:

[Alison, Allcrab, Made, Mac, Martin] -- the rest are mechanically cleared from mafia in my eyes other than Gnome, who will resolve anyway.

At this point I'd be pretty surprised if Made isn't one of them. From there the pairings are rather broad -- it doesn't have to be Mac, but it can be Mac. There are also cases to be made to pair him with the others at least based upon his own posts. Separating Made from this pile will probably require dedicated ISOing of them more than of him.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

do you and Gnome have btsc?

We did on Night 4 only. Our lovership is activation-only, and the only night we both activated was N4. I refused every prior night. I believe Gnome activated every night.

[Made]

If you think the mason claims can be fake, pairing me with Guillosooa is a bizarre choice.

how so? didn't y'all claim lovers or something?

You acknowledged that nanook had claimed mason in your post.

I thought he claimed with someone else. my stupid is not AI, i promise

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I do think having no idea what's going on can be mafia-indicative. It isn't always that way, but in this particular game where the mafia have been getting wasted... I'm calling it a negative.

[Made]

If you think the mason claims can be fake, pairing me with Guillosooa is a bizarre choice.

how so? didn't y'all claim lovers or something?

You acknowledged that nanook had claimed mason in your post.

I thought he claimed with someone else. my stupid is not AI, i promise

sad_lisa.jpg failed to load

[JaggedJimmyJay]

On that note, regarding the mafia getting wasted, I want to make a general statement.

Town has played this game very well. 3 of our 4 chops have been on anti-town players (two mafia and the win thief). We shot another mafioso in the bum. That's all great, and we can take pride. However, we should be cautious with this mindset that we're just annihilating this game and have a huge lead. We don't. Belzy's death and the poisoner's affection for attacking town only has assured that by the numbers, our lead isn't that safe. Stay engaged or this can absolutely become an L.

[Sloonei]

I wouldn't put faking mason's past Nanook

If you think the mason claims can be fake, pairing me with Guillosooa is a bizarre choice.

how so? didn't y'all claim lovers or something?

This might be a perspective slip of sorts from Made. In his first post he acknowledges that Nanook has claimed to be one half of a mason pair. In his next post he claims to suspect jay and guillotine/esooa as a pair because he believes they have claimed lovers together.

These two reads should not exist together. Nanook only claimed mason after being indirectly outed via Guillotine. There has never been anything suggestive of a Jay/Guillo pairing. If Made has the game awareness to know that Nanook is a mason, then he should not be mistakenly reading Jay and Guillo/esooa as lovers.
I feel like he needed to create fake suspicion against as many people as he could muster and accidentally slipped two completely contradictory views of the game.

[Made]

I wouldn't put faking mason's past Nanook

If you think the mason claims can be fake, pairing me with Guillosooa is a bizarre choice.

how so? didn't y'all claim lovers or something?

This might be a perspective slip of sorts from Made. In his first post he acknowledges that Nanook has claimed to be one half of a mason pair. In his next post he claims to suspect jay and guillotine/esooa as a pair because he believes they have claimed lovers together.

These two reads should not exist together. Nanook only claimed mason after being indirectly outed via Guillotine. There has never been anything suggestive of a Jay/Guillo pairing. If Made has the game awareness to know that Nanook is a mason, then he should not be mistakenly reading Jay and Guillo/esooa as lovers.
I feel like he needed to create fake suspicion against as many people as he could muster and accidentally slipped two completely contradictory views of the game.

I mean i knew that Nanook claimed mason, and Jay claimed lovers. Their partner's names both started with G and I only technically speak english.

[Sloonei]

I wouldn't put faking mason's past Nanook

If you think the mason claims can be fake, pairing me with Guillosooa is a bizarre choice.

how so? didn't y'all claim lovers or something?

This might be a perspective slip of sorts from Made. In his first post he acknowledges that Nanook has claimed to be one half of a mason pair. In his next post he claims to suspect jay and guillotine/esooa as a pair because he believes they have claimed lovers together.

These two reads should not exist together. Nanook only claimed mason after being indirectly outed via Guillotine. There has never been anything suggestive of a Jay/Guillo pairing. If Made has the game awareness to know that Nanook is a mason, then he should not be mistakenly reading Jay and Guillo/esooa as lovers.
I feel like he needed to create fake suspicion against as many people as he could muster and accidentally slipped two completely contradictory views of the game.

I mean i knew that Nanook claimed mason, and Jay claimed lovers. Their partner's names both started with G and I only technically speak english.

How did you become aware of nanook's claim?

[Sloonei]

Also can't really help but doubt the validity of "I think Jay and Guillo interactions should be investigated" when the premise of that mutual suspicion is something that has never existed anywhere.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

HI friends, sorry for missing yesterday, i got my start of day/end of days dates twisted. Before I waste my time in iso hell, is Allcrab cleared for any reason? I see they claimed on day 2 and alison didn't buy it, but then they got a red check on owner.

If Made is mafia and rooting around wherever he can for suspects, this is probably a positive example.

[Sloonei]

If there is a tie between multiple players in the vote, the elimination will be determined by whoever reached that number of votes first. Using vote tags in the thread isn't mandatory, but it's highly recommended, and we will only track these votes when breaking ties in this way. Votes posted in the thread after 12:30:00 will also not count when breaking a tie.

We can coordinate a way to test Alison's by tying the vote and making sure the person Jay does not vote for reaches the vote total first. If there is an apparent tie, Jay should have a double vote, so whoever he votes for should die. If he does not have a double vote, then the other person will die. If he does not have a double vote, Alison lied.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Animal Kingdom
Bunny
Hawk
Tangrowth

Kingdom Outskirts
JJJ
Sonny
Gavial

Plants
Lomo
Nutella

Fungi
Owner
Alison
Made

From what I've read so far

Good look if Made is mafia.

[Allcrab]

You want me to switch to Mac?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'd be okay with a tie as long as my own vote is on Made when it happens (or whatever is needed to kill Made). I do hesitate some though, because Alison's role claim doesn't make her town even if true.

[Garden Gnome]

Garden gnome missed the radar, smh

@Garden Gnome whatchu bout?

I got poisoned.
What do you need to know about me?

[Made]

Also can't really help but doubt the validity of "I think Jay and Guillo interactions should be investigated" when the premise of that mutual suspicion is something that has never existed anywhere.

I meant Jay and Garden, i just didn't know it. You asked me for my reads of a game I haven't read, so I tried my best off the top. I don't have notes, and I forgot Garden was playing. So I accept my chop, my language comprehension and lack of object permanence are clearly to the detriment of town if I'm not making sense, but I don't think my route points are nonsensical here.

I wouldn't put faking mason's past Nanook

If you think the mason claims can be fake, pairing me with Guillosooa is a bizarre choice.

how so? didn't y'all claim lovers or something?

This might be a perspective slip of sorts from Made. In his first post he acknowledges that Nanook has claimed to be one half of a mason pair. In his next post he claims to suspect jay and guillotine/esooa as a pair because he believes they have claimed lovers together.

These two reads should not exist together. Nanook only claimed mason after being indirectly outed via Guillotine. There has never been anything suggestive of a Jay/Guillo pairing. If Made has the game awareness to know that Nanook is a mason, then he should not be mistakenly reading Jay and Guillo/esooa as lovers.
I feel like he needed to create fake suspicion against as many people as he could muster and accidentally slipped two completely contradictory views of the game.

I mean i knew that Nanook claimed mason, and Jay claimed lovers. Their partner's names both started with G and I only technically speak english.

How did you become aware of nanook's claim?

he said it, someone mentioned that Nanook and Lomo were off radar, so i read them and saw he claimed

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think made is village for reasons many will probably call weak but the way they defended alison when I sus'd them kinda feeling real like in anycase I kinda feel like made is playing against win con if they wolf defending villagers and voting a wolf they literally gave themselves an out to not suspect.

It doesn't make sense to me.

Don't understand this post.

[Made]

Garden gnome missed the radar, smh

@Garden Gnome whatchu bout?

I got poisoned.
What do you need to know about me?

not much actually! that works out really well lmao. Rough shake tho, I'll catch you in graveyard chat??

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Alison's relationship with Made doesn't really demand a thorough review, and my own look at the posts just now affirms that. Alison viewed Made's wagon as an attempt to save nutella and held to that view more or less until Day 5. Made himself did very little with Alison until today. If Made is mafia it doesn't preclude Alison, at least at the level of their interactions.

[Sloonei]

I think the attention you're putting on me is odd but i kinda appreciate it cuz it grounds my play. The Desperado stuff on you give you a pass for today, but if i were around I'd prob tinfoil at Fx

Another objection I had to Made's big post: Why is my attention on Made odd? He is a prominent suspect in a very small POE pool. I have been making an effort to engage him and develop a read. What is there to object to there?
And, more importantly, why is "The Desperado stuff" good for a pass today but not later? I am mechanically confirmed today. That's not going to stop being the case on Day 7, is it?

[Garden Gnome]

Garden gnome missed the radar, smh

@Garden Gnome whatchu bout?

I got poisoned.
What do you need to know about me?

not much actually! that works out really well lmao. Rough shake tho, I'll catch you in graveyard chat??

For sure!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Made had a bit of a go at Martin late Day 4 and into this day phase. One shouldn't discount distancing when both are in the general POE pool. I don't know that it looks like distancing though. Sloonei you might have a view there since you involved yourself more directly in the dialogue.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If Made is mafia and we can get Allcrab and Martin out of the equation, reducing the mafia team to just Made + [Mac, Alison] would be really nice. I will tread carefully, it's a bit late to be clearing people frivolously.

Another note. I doubt Gnome and Made are both mafia, or today represents the team killing itself.

[Sloonei]

Made had a bit of a go at Martin late Day 4 and into this day phase. One shouldn't discount distancing when both are in the general POE pool. I don't know that it looks like distancing though. Sloonei you might have a view there since you involved yourself more directly in the dialogue.

Without reviewing anything, I’d categorize it as “could be distancing but does not need to be.” It felt like Made was pushing lightly to see if it could gain any traction. Given his position, if he’s mafia, anything today could be distancing.

[TonyStarkPrime]

do you and Gnome have btsc?

We did on Night 4 only. Our lovership is activation-only, and the only night we both activated was N4. I refused every prior night. I believe Gnome activated every night.

Did they know it was you

[Garden Gnome]

do you and Gnome have btsc?

We did on Night 4 only. Our lovership is activation-only, and the only night we both activated was N4. I refused every prior night. I believe Gnome activated every night.

Did they know it was you

JJJ figured out that it was me.
I did not activate on the first night, but I did every other night.

[MacDougall]

Wellety wellety wellety

[MacDougall]

If Made is mafia and we can get Allcrab and Martin out of the equation, reducing the mafia team to just Made + [Mac, Alison] would be really nice. I will tread carefully, it's a bit late to be clearing people frivolously.

Another note. I doubt Gnome and Made are both mafia, or today represents the team killing itself.

How does a made mafia flip clear Allcrab and Martin?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If Made is mafia and we can get Allcrab and Martin out of the equation, reducing the mafia team to just Made + [Mac, Alison] would be really nice. I will tread carefully, it's a bit late to be clearing people frivolously.

Another note. I doubt Gnome and Made are both mafia, or today represents the team killing itself.

How does a made mafia flip clear Allcrab and Martin?

Clear is a strong word. It’s my gut read that those aren’t pairs based on isolated moments, but I would still need to pay it more thought — especially with Allcrab.

[MacDougall]

If Made is mafia and we can get Allcrab and Martin out of the equation, reducing the mafia team to just Made + [Mac, Alison] would be really nice. I will tread carefully, it's a bit late to be clearing people frivolously.

Another note. I doubt Gnome and Made are both mafia, or today represents the team killing itself.

How does a made mafia flip clear Allcrab and Martin?

Clear is a strong word. It’s my gut read that those aren’t pairs based on isolated moments, but I would still need to pay it more thought — especially with Allcrab.

If Made is mafia the dude is in full antispew. His teammate is probably someone he's literally trying to spew his teammate by not pushing.

[MacDougall]

What even is a modified tracker?

What are your thoughts on the claims of living players? Why have you not claimed?

I think the attention you're putting on me is odd but i kinda appreciate it cuz it grounds my play. The Desperado stuff on you give you a pass for today, but if i were around I'd prob tinfoil at Fx

I like lomo's case on Jay, I think Jay/guilo interactions need to be looked at by non Jay person that's not comf biased as you seem to be on jay. This is doubly true if Martin is town and we're correctly assuming we have 2 scum left. Jay has the gavial hell in the cell working for him, but I do see him being the kind of confident player who would be willing to go for that play for the wifom

I wouldn't put faking mason's past Nanook, it's seeming like this game has a lot of btsc, so the idea of a neutral or evil align btsc sounds, but the case isn't really that compelling to me.

I think Mac's town on tone, he's as meme-y as he was in zelda mash and modern family, in comparison to spiderman where he ignored all my jokes. I think the fact that we're being shipped means we either only have one scum left in a player with less associative reads like martin, or it's just Jay/Guillo. based on my read of threads state, one scum is prob most likely

Allcrab reads fairly clean to me, but that might just be lack of familiarity with the player compared to the

I've already spoken on Alison, and I don't feel like being roasted on TangleStarkPro again. this is all off the top, so if i'm forgetting someone, that person auto sus af for missing my radar

but yeah, sorry for inactivity y'all, i normally don't get too into a game unless we're losing, or i'm getting turbo'd and that didn't really happen till today. I think we still got this tho

What have you spoken on Alison? I missed that...

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If Made is mafia and we can get Allcrab and Martin out of the equation, reducing the mafia team to just Made + [Mac, Alison] would be really nice. I will tread carefully, it's a bit late to be clearing people frivolously.

Another note. I doubt Gnome and Made are both mafia, or today represents the team killing itself.

How does a made mafia flip clear Allcrab and Martin?

Clear is a strong word. It’s my gut read that those aren’t pairs based on isolated moments, but I would still need to pay it more thought — especially with Allcrab.

If Made is mafia the dude is in full antispew. His teammate is probably someone he's literally trying to spew his teammate by not pushing.

I’m looking at the entire game. And sometimes “anti-spew” is still revealing. Not everyone knows how to handle that.

[MacDougall]

If Made is mafia and we can get Allcrab and Martin out of the equation, reducing the mafia team to just Made + [Mac, Alison] would be really nice. I will tread carefully, it's a bit late to be clearing people frivolously.

Another note. I doubt Gnome and Made are both mafia, or today represents the team killing itself.

How does a made mafia flip clear Allcrab and Martin?

Clear is a strong word. It’s my gut read that those aren’t pairs based on isolated moments, but I would still need to pay it more thought — especially with Allcrab.

If Made is mafia the dude is in full antispew. His teammate is probably someone he's literally trying to spew his teammate by not pushing.

I’m looking at the entire game. And sometimes “anti-spew” is still revealing. Not everyone knows how to handle that.

Stand back Jay you might get some spew on you.

[Sloonei]

If Made is mafia the dude is in full antispew. His teammate is probably someone he's literally trying to spew his teammate by not pushing.

Noted

I think Mac's town on tone, he's as meme-y as he was in zelda mash and modern family, in comparison to spiderman where he ignored all my jokes. I think the fact that we're being shipped means we either only have one scum left in a player with less associative reads like martin, or it's just Jay/Guillo. based on my read of threads state, one scum is prob most likely

[MacDougall]

Spew.

[MacDougall]

If Made is mafia the dude is in full antispew. His teammate is probably someone he's literally trying to spew his teammate by not pushing.

Noted

I think Mac's town on tone, he's as meme-y as he was in zelda mash and modern family, in comparison to spiderman where he ignored all my jokes. I think the fact that we're being shipped means we either only have one scum left in a player with less associative reads like martin, or it's just Jay/Guillo. based on my read of threads state, one scum is prob most likely

Do you think this makes you smart?

[Sloonei]

If Made is mafia the dude is in full antispew. His teammate is probably someone he's literally trying to spew his teammate by not pushing.

Noted

I think Mac's town on tone, he's as meme-y as he was in zelda mash and modern family, in comparison to spiderman where he ignored all my jokes. I think the fact that we're being shipped means we either only have one scum left in a player with less associative reads like martin, or it's just Jay/Guillo. based on my read of threads state, one scum is prob most likely

Do you think this makes you smart?

Yes.

[MacDougall]

If Made is mafia the dude is in full antispew. His teammate is probably someone he's literally trying to spew his teammate by not pushing.

Noted

I think Mac's town on tone, he's as meme-y as he was in zelda mash and modern family, in comparison to spiderman where he ignored all my jokes. I think the fact that we're being shipped means we either only have one scum left in a player with less associative reads like martin, or it's just Jay/Guillo. based on my read of threads state, one scum is prob most likely

Do you think this makes you smart?

Yes.

Well it doesn't okay.