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Re: Traitors for Exile

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falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:39 pm
Wiml wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:20 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:15 pm
Wiml wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:57 pm This is what Mac listens to as he pulls the town's strings


I think the thing to remember here is that even if Mac is a lost wolf he doesn't actually know who his teammates are.

So if he's powerwolfing then he has to be actively making reads he knows are incorrect (or at least, ensuring a decent enough number of his team are skipped over).

Obviously you disagree with his read on you but how do you feel about the other players Mac is pushing? I think they're wolfy (Poison in particular). Do you think that there are any players who Mac is defending who are likely to be traitors? If so, who and why?
He has to do no such thing. All he needs to do is play the game with Mac's fervor, and if his reads are wrong (he's already lynched a townie), then how is he to blame given how little info the town has to go on? He's making his reads without TMI, this game setup is a huge benefit as Lost Wolf for a player of Mac's ability.
Ok but... I don't think any player can just win this solo even before we factor in cop checks, especially not one with a reputation like Mac.

Why is he powerwolfing here and not just powertowning? What is he getting out of this? What direction is Mac pushing the thread in currently that you disagree with besides scumreading you, obviously?

All you're telling me so far is that Mac is being loud and pushing his reads but I don't get the conclusion of that being wolfy.
Well for starters his towncore used to include both myself & Poison. He's flipped those reads, and I can say his read on me changed with no real thought fleshed out ITT, he said it was all the Page 6 Epiphany.


He outright lied about not knowing I was in the game. His read on Kaz also flipped with no real rhyme or reason, just more Page 6 which he has not explained at all, at least not that I've seen.

Had 112 previously as top town, but lists them in the mid range, and then pushes KG who has a whopping 13 posts cuz they're here for the memes? Go thru KG's ISO, see if that's the tone you get. Voted Cat, tho he says there's no reason to do so, kinda here by default as he put it.



Sorry, what has he done that's towny? Said we should keep a thread state that doesn't tolerate BS? Earth shattering revelation right there
I agree. Mac needs to do more then fake a no BS approach tbh.
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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There's a chance we might not even need Mac to be town here
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falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:15 pm
Wiml wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:57 pm This is what Mac listens to as he pulls the town's strings


I think the thing to remember here is that even if Mac is a lost wolf he doesn't actually know who his teammates are.

So if he's powerwolfing then he has to be actively making reads he knows are incorrect (or at least, ensuring a decent enough number of his team are skipped over).

Obviously you disagree with his read on you but how do you feel about the other players Mac is pushing? I think they're wolfy (Poison in particular). Do you think that there are any players who Mac is defending who are likely to be traitors? If so, who and why?
He has to do no such thing. All he needs to do is play the game with Mac's fervor, and if his reads are wrong (he's already lynched a townie), then how is he to blame given how little info the town has to go on? He's making his reads without TMI, this game setup is a huge benefit as Lost Wolf for a player of Mac's ability.
I've already lynched a townie? I was like the last person to vote for cat.
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:26 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:15 pm
Wiml wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:57 pm This is what Mac listens to as he pulls the town's strings


I think the thing to remember here is that even if Mac is a lost wolf he doesn't actually know who his teammates are.

So if he's powerwolfing then he has to be actively making reads he knows are incorrect (or at least, ensuring a decent enough number of his team are skipped over).

Obviously you disagree with his read on you but how do you feel about the other players Mac is pushing? I think they're wolfy (Poison in particular). Do you think that there are any players who Mac is defending who are likely to be traitors? If so, who and why?
He has to do no such thing. All he needs to do is play the game with Mac's fervor, and if his reads are wrong (he's already lynched a townie), then how is he to blame given how little info the town has to go on? He's making his reads without TMI, this game setup is a huge benefit as Lost Wolf for a player of Mac's ability.
I've already lynched a townie? I was like the last person to vote for cat.
Did they die? Where they town? Then yes, you lynched a townie.
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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Le sigh. This game sucks.
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Guess we'll still have an entire tomorrow to play this dayphase still.
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Oops redundancy
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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Falcon is brutally obvious here. He is neeeever town.
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I thought you were going to say he is obvious town.
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Auwt wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:14 pm
KZA wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:44 pm [VOTE: Auwt] aubergine

I see they resurfaced to vote the GOAT KGMurphy and I will not stand for it

Also like this slot has been skating by hard I feel and I'll try some pressure
Are you townreading KGMurphy that much?
If so why?
He clearly doesn't give a fuck about anything and it's awesome
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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So is this pretty much 11v4 niggtless cop with a godfather?
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MissSparkles wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:40 pm
KZA wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:34 pm Hey guys please show up for my lunch break so I can interact with you thanks
Show up after work?

Like excuses ain’t a proper defence. Maybe try u know defending yourself to accusations brought forth against u.
I don't even know what you're accusing me of anymore. If your entire mission is to tilt me in to getting mischopped then keep going great job
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Can't believe sparkles saw through my elite wolf strategy of claiming to be at work all the time GG WP
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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:27 pm Le sigh. This game sucks.
I never get mischopped but I'll happily break that streak for sanity reasons
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[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine
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sup
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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i don't see the point of withholding the red check, because you're not gonna get spew
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the posting of sparkles has become increasingly offputting
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Gira wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:04 pm i don't see the point of withholding the red check, because you're not gonna get spew
I tend to agree
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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Gira wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:06 pm the posting of sparkles has become increasingly offputting
How so?
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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Gira wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:04 pm i don't see the point of withholding the red check, because you're not gonna get spew
I guess to encourage everyone to keep looking for stuff for most of the day
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KZA wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:08 pm
Gira wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:04 pm i don't see the point of withholding the red check, because you're not gonna get spew
I guess to encourage everyone to keep looking for stuff for most of the day
Yeah, this. Though mayve if we learn one traitor we can do a little better.
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KZA wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:08 pm
Gira wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:04 pm i don't see the point of withholding the red check, because you're not gonna get spew
I guess to encourage everyone to keep looking for stuff for most of the day
I don't see why town would stop looking for stuff, but ce la vie
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:08 pm
Gira wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:06 pm the posting of sparkles has become increasingly offputting
How so?
whenever she speaks to someone it's like she's putting her hand on their leg. her sidling up to you in your argument with mac is gross, got the same buddying vibes earlier in the game, don't like the way she's attacking kza
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falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:12 pm
KZA wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:08 pm
Gira wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:04 pm i don't see the point of withholding the red check, because you're not gonna get spew
I guess to encourage everyone to keep looking for stuff for most of the day
I don't see why town would stop looking for stuff, but ce la vie
sometimes people get lazy when there's outed Mafia in front of them

I know I would
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Would we feel more motivated if Marmot outed the guilty? I know some players get in a surge of WIM when they obtain info on someone's alignment.
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If there was no guilty, I'd probably go for Auwt today and maybe Poison the next day.
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Gira wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:08 pm
Gira wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:06 pm the posting of sparkles has become increasingly offputting
How so?
whenever she speaks to someone it's like she's putting her hand on their leg. her sidling up to you in your argument with mac is gross, got the same buddying vibes earlier in the game, don't like the way she's attacking kza
I don't care about her attacks w/ Kaz, but I agree with you on her buddying up to me re: Mac
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Creature wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:13 pm Would we feel more motivated if Marmot outed the guilty? I know some players get in a surge of WIM when they obtain info on someone's alignment.
My motivation would remain unchanged, but perhaps others would feel more incentivized?



Again, I don't see why town can't feel motivated regardless of the red check
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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I confess I'd feel a bit disappointed if the red check was on Auwt or Poison as both are a bit obvious traitor here, but anyone else feels like a good hit. Imagine if it is someone like MacDougall or Long Con.
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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KZA wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:12 pm
KZA wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:08 pm
Gira wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:04 pm i don't see the point of withholding the red check, because you're not gonna get spew
I guess to encourage everyone to keep looking for stuff for most of the day
I don't see why town would stop looking for stuff, but ce la vie
sometimes people get lazy when there's outed Mafia in front of them

I know I would
i mean i get the conventional wisdom just don't think it applies here
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also debatably there's value in having less reads out in the open so the anticop has less of an idea where to paint although that is again quite boring
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actually thought opoisn was a little bit better in recent posts, were some actual opinions in there
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Creature wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:20 pm I confess I'd feel a bit disappointed if the red check was on Auwt or Poison as both are a bit obvious traitor here, but anyone else feels like a good hit. Imagine if it is someone like MacDougall or Long Con.

Mac makes sense in light of Marmot not wanting to reveal so as not to kill thread participation.
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Gira wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:25 pm also debatably there's value in having less reads out in the open so the anticop has less of an idea where to paint although that is again quite boring
We'll probably have to out the result before the day deadline and the anticop can act accordingly anyway.
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Creature wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:27 pm
Gira wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:25 pm also debatably there's value in having less reads out in the open so the anticop has less of an idea where to paint although that is again quite boring
We'll probably have to out the result before the day deadline and the anticop can act accordingly anyway.
Assuming daycop and anticop are processed at the end of the day.
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well I ISO'd Auwt and they're kind of just lowposting

they had a couple more nuanced takes on Cat and KGMurphy where the thought process felt okay

at the moment I'd rate them as a randbox
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@KGMurphy who would you kill and why
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falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:15 pm
Wiml wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:57 pm This is what Mac listens to as he pulls the town's strings


I think the thing to remember here is that even if Mac is a lost wolf he doesn't actually know who his teammates are.

So if he's powerwolfing then he has to be actively making reads he knows are incorrect (or at least, ensuring a decent enough number of his team are skipped over).

Obviously you disagree with his read on you but how do you feel about the other players Mac is pushing? I think they're wolfy (Poison in particular). Do you think that there are any players who Mac is defending who are likely to be traitors? If so, who and why?
He has to do no such thing. All he needs to do is play the game with Mac's fervor, and if his reads are wrong (he's already lynched a townie), then how is he to blame given how little info the town has to go on? He's making his reads without TMI, this game setup is a huge benefit as Lost Wolf for a player of Mac's ability.
what moves the needle from wrongtown Mac to wolf Mac for you?

considering Cat and I were the top wagons and we are both town, most of the playerlist had wrong reads on D1
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Lol I hope the anticop targeted Marmot that would be hilarious
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KZA wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:39 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:15 pm
Wiml wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:57 pm This is what Mac listens to as he pulls the town's strings


I think the thing to remember here is that even if Mac is a lost wolf he doesn't actually know who his teammates are.

So if he's powerwolfing then he has to be actively making reads he knows are incorrect (or at least, ensuring a decent enough number of his team are skipped over).

Obviously you disagree with his read on you but how do you feel about the other players Mac is pushing? I think they're wolfy (Poison in particular). Do you think that there are any players who Mac is defending who are likely to be traitors? If so, who and why?
He has to do no such thing. All he needs to do is play the game with Mac's fervor, and if his reads are wrong (he's already lynched a townie), then how is he to blame given how little info the town has to go on? He's making his reads without TMI, this game setup is a huge benefit as Lost Wolf for a player of Mac's ability.
what moves the needle from wrongtown Mac to wolf Mac for you?

considering Cat and I were the top wagons and we are both town, most of the playerlist had wrong reads on D1
It's the way he's pushing his reads, and the reasoning (or lack thereof) for his scum & town leans.


His "keep the thread BS free" isn't exactly cutting edge strategy, yet he seems to believe it lock town proof of his mayorship.


Also, you might be a traitor, so I don't know that most of the playerlist was wrong on D1.
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I kinda don't want to go for Poison because they're semi shielding me which is a correct and not exactly consensus read

Also that post where they basically said WHAT ABOUT ME I VOTED CAT BEFORE MAC was townie at a base level
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I feel like I accidentally put Poison on my ignore list. It's not possible Poison has like 80 or so posts and I still don't remember any from them.
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yes but WHERE is the exile at?
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Do we ultimately know what role the Exilees are or will it be a surprise that would pop up if we send three of them there?
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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KZA wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:37 pm
Auwt wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:14 pm
KZA wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:44 pm [VOTE: Auwt] aubergine

I see they resurfaced to vote the GOAT KGMurphy and I will not stand for it

Also like this slot has been skating by hard I feel and I'll try some pressure
Are you townreading KGMurphy that much?
If so why?
He clearly doesn't give a fuck about anything and it's awesome
Ehm...
Okay.
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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Imagine if 112 is the red check

That wouldn't be too bad actually

As in, a strategic choice of cop target. Exiling a red is of course bad.
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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Wisdom wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:10 am Imagine if 112 is the red check

That wouldn't be too bad actually

As in, a strategic choice of cop target. Exiling a red is of course bad.
I think Marm said yesterday that he wouldn't let his peel get exiled.
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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But yeah tbh I understand why a lot of players are dropping WIM. A hopeful red flip will be a bit of a morale boost though I think.
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Re: Traitors for Exile

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Falcon continues to be naked mafia
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