The Fall of Númenor - Game Over!

[Marmot]

I'm surprised we're spending so many of our limited posts bickering and openwolfing. Can we please be more diligent with how we're using our posts?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm surprised we're spending so many of our limited posts bickering and openwolfing. Can we please be more diligent with how we're using our posts?

Scummy post

[MacDougall]

lol

[Wiml]

Can't believe you protected wiml and landed a save. Lmao.

I land saves every time I'm the doctor

But wiml was totally choppable.

They'd be making a mistake trying tbh. Although I'm not sure why I would have been targeted over Esooa given that we had very similar reads? Subtlety, if falcon/Syn are wolfing I suppose? There's probably also a chance that most if not all of the wolves were locked into being unable to push me (for townreading me or having their cases on me shut down already).

Wrt Kami, I don't think their post criticising Mac's reads list displays TMI, even I can look at his D1 reads and go "yeah this looks really bad" (especially given that Kami doesn't have any meta on HK to my knowledge... it might be easy to find HK town with meta but if I didn't have any of that I would probably be deathtunneling him after his SoD2 tbh instead of calling him clear town like I am now).

[Deli]

[Gavial]

[VOTE: Mac Dongull] aubergine

[MacDougall]

okay gavial

[Urist]

Vote Count 2.2

MacDougall (3) - Deli, Kami, Gavial
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (1) - MacDougall
Deli (1) - hollowkatt
Syn (1) - Marmot
falcon45ca (1) - Esooa
Creature (1) - Syn

Not Voting (4) - Creature, falcon45ca, Wiml, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to execute.



Current Post Counts

MacDougall - 85 / 91 (6 left)
Esooa - 89 / 100 (11 left)
Syn - 61 / 73 (12 left)
hollowkatt - 70 / 90 (20 left)
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - 47 / 69 (22 left)
Kami - 46 / 75 (29 left)
Gavial - 65 / 96 (31 left)
Deli - 66 / 98 (32 left)
Wiml - 67 / 100 (33 left)
Creature - 52 / 92 (40 left)
Marmot - 42 / 83 (41 left)
falcon45ca - 45 / 91 (46 left)

[falcon45ca]

Why are we voting Mac? What's he done this time?

[falcon45ca]

@Esooa If I'm scum, who led the CW to save me last RD?

[falcon45ca]

Towny mindset right here

[falcon45ca]

Kami is laying it on way too thick to be town. At best neg util.

Okay then actually vote me instead of whining about getting caught wolfing

You remind me of a YouTube commenter.

Sorry I hurt your ego, but not really

how do you figure you did that?

I would say someone has an ego when it comes to their reads when their first instinct is to instantly vote the person who claims their reads are bad.
Also "Who the fuck is this person." Shows me even questioning you upset you. You're reads are bad but I think it's on purpose, therefor you are a wolf and me calling you out hurt your ego. Sorry!

Which reads of Mac are bad and why?

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: VOTE CREATURE] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

Gav, why are you voting HK?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I endorse a creature push

[dunya]

another friendly reminder: attack the play, not the player! please respect your fellow players to ensure a good time for all in the game! if i see any more ~personal insults~ hurled, i'm gonna be >:( and you don't want that. if you're frustrated at anyone or anything, come to my pms/dms and let's talk it over!

@MacDougall
@Esooa
@Syn
@hollowkatt
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Kami
@Gavial
@Deli
@Wiml
@Creature
@Marmot
@falcon45ca

[Creature]

Yawn it's quite a drop from D1.

[Creature]

Vote Count 2.2

MacDougall (3) - Deli, Kami, Gavial
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (1) - MacDougall
Deli (1) - hollowkatt
Syn (1) - Marmot
falcon45ca (1) - Esooa
Creature (1) - Syn

Not Voting (4) - Creature, falcon45ca, Wiml, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to execute.



Current Post Counts

MacDougall - 85 / 91 (6 left)
Esooa - 89 / 100 (11 left)
Syn - 61 / 73 (12 left)
hollowkatt - 70 / 90 (20 left)
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - 47 / 69 (22 left)
Kami - 46 / 75 (29 left)
Gavial - 65 / 96 (31 left)
Deli - 66 / 98 (32 left)
Wiml - 67 / 100 (33 left)
Creature - 52 / 92 (40 left)
Marmot - 42 / 83 (41 left)
falcon45ca - 45 / 91 (46 left)

[VOTE: VOTE CREATURE] aubergine

I endorse a creature push

Yeah, this gamestate is utterly terrible and wolf-dominated.

[Creature]

I saw a post that happened to be hk that seemed wolfy. I said it was.

Gavial is different here to what I'm used to.

Nanook seems different here too.

I don't care about Kami. Kami can go off.

I don't think Mac is wolf. At least not while I mindmeld with their reads.

[Creature]

[VOTE: Kreachur] aubergine

how about this

So I can safely assume your "Esooa is lying" was bullshit?

[falcon45ca]

Vote Count 2.2

MacDougall (3) - Deli, Kami, Gavial
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (1) - MacDougall
Deli (1) - hollowkatt
Syn (1) - Marmot
falcon45ca (1) - Esooa
Creature (1) - Syn

Not Voting (4) - Creature, falcon45ca, Wiml, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to execute.



Current Post Counts

MacDougall - 85 / 91 (6 left)
Esooa - 89 / 100 (11 left)
Syn - 61 / 73 (12 left)
hollowkatt - 70 / 90 (20 left)
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - 47 / 69 (22 left)
Kami - 46 / 75 (29 left)
Gavial - 65 / 96 (31 left)
Deli - 66 / 98 (32 left)
Wiml - 67 / 100 (33 left)
Creature - 52 / 92 (40 left)
Marmot - 42 / 83 (41 left)
falcon45ca - 45 / 91 (46 left)

[VOTE: VOTE CREATURE] aubergine

I endorse a creature push

Yeah, this gamestate is utterly terrible and wolf-dominated.

The gamestate is wolf dominated? By whom? Who are the wolves dominating the game plz?

[Syn]

[VOTE: Kreachur] aubergine

how about this

So I can safely assume your "Esooa is lying" was bullshit?

you can safely assume anything you want, it's a free internet

but no, you can't assume that

[Creature]

Vote Count 2.2

MacDougall (3) - Deli, Kami, Gavial
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (1) - MacDougall
Deli (1) - hollowkatt
Syn (1) - Marmot
falcon45ca (1) - Esooa
Creature (1) - Syn

Not Voting (4) - Creature, falcon45ca, Wiml, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to execute.



Current Post Counts

MacDougall - 85 / 91 (6 left)
Esooa - 89 / 100 (11 left)
Syn - 61 / 73 (12 left)
hollowkatt - 70 / 90 (20 left)
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - 47 / 69 (22 left)
Kami - 46 / 75 (29 left)
Gavial - 65 / 96 (31 left)
Deli - 66 / 98 (32 left)
Wiml - 67 / 100 (33 left)
Creature - 52 / 92 (40 left)
Marmot - 42 / 83 (41 left)
falcon45ca - 45 / 91 (46 left)

[VOTE: VOTE CREATURE] aubergine

I endorse a creature push

Yeah, this gamestate is utterly terrible and wolf-dominated.

The gamestate is wolf dominated? By whom? Who are the wolves dominating the game plz?

The Mac wagon looks really half-assed and I feel like there's enough town apathy for the wolves to handle things here.

[Creature]

Esooa is town. Wiml is town. I know I'm town.

Leaves:

MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
hollowkatt
Gavial
Kami
Syn
Marmot
falcon45ca
Deli

I'll go from there and see what else I can get.

[falcon45ca]

One would think that if the gamestate were "wolf dominated", as creature put it, that it would be relatively easy to say who at least some of the wolves are dominating the game.

[Creature]

due to the post limit the rest of my focus will be entirely on Falcon and probably who is the mafia with him. Maybe who is mafia is he isn't but I very much doubt that. I'll post again in 24 hours

this is to say, I'm not going to be around to direct people, but if falcon doesn't make towny posts he is dying.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Yeah, I can get behind this.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Mac prob wolf

Why?

still think HK is just town with good reads tbh

When?

Kami is laying it on way too thick to be town. At best neg util.

Okay then actually vote me instead of whining about getting caught wolfing

I think Kami is town.

[VOTE: Kreachur] aubergine

how about this

Really struggling to see Syn town here.

[Creature]

One would think that if the gamestate were "wolf dominated", as creature put it, that it would be relatively easy to say who at least some of the wolves are dominating the game.

It's apathy-dominated and some wolves bathing on half-assed pushes.

[falcon45ca]

One would think that if the gamestate were "wolf dominated", as creature put it, that it would be relatively easy to say who at least some of the wolves are dominating the game.

It's apathy-dominated and some wolves bathing on half-assed pushes.

Yeah, and that belief is in no way represented by your vote on me. That's a half-assed push bruh, you're just sheeping Essoa.

[Syn]

only wolves vote for villagers

[Gavial]

only wolves vote for villagers

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

[Marmot]

One would think that if the gamestate were "wolf dominated", as creature put it, that it would be relatively easy to say who at least some of the wolves are dominating the game.

It's apathy-dominated and some wolves bathing on half-assed pushes.

I don't feel apathetic, but I'm feeling extremely reserved in terms of participating in a long discussion about the game due to the post cap. Since we don't have the ability to rely on a lot of chatting, or even volume-clearing people, I'm relying more on mech information for voting atm (and when I have more time, I'll dive more into ISOs).

That said, esooa's claim and Syn's response is the only mechy thing we have at the moment.

[Wiml]

Tbh, Syn's response is actually anti-indicative of him being a wolf if I was actually the kill target. I doubt he goes down this route if he has TMI that Esooa is telling the truth.

I also don't think anybody will get any more from this Syn discussion now tbh. This is normal Syn behaviour lol.

[Syn]

One would think that if the gamestate were "wolf dominated", as creature put it, that it would be relatively easy to say who at least some of the wolves are dominating the game.

It's apathy-dominated and some wolves bathing on half-assed pushes.

I don't feel apathetic, but I'm feeling extremely reserved in terms of participating in a long discussion about the game due to the post cap. Since we don't have the ability to rely on a lot of chatting, or even volume-clearing people, I'm relying more on mech information for voting atm (and when I have more time, I'll dive more into ISOs).

That said, esooa's claim and Syn's response is the only mechy thing we have at the moment.

This is an amazing cop-out

[Marmot]

One would think that if the gamestate were "wolf dominated", as creature put it, that it would be relatively easy to say who at least some of the wolves are dominating the game.

It's apathy-dominated and some wolves bathing on half-assed pushes.

I don't feel apathetic, but I'm feeling extremely reserved in terms of participating in a long discussion about the game due to the post cap. Since we don't have the ability to rely on a lot of chatting, or even volume-clearing people, I'm relying more on mech information for voting atm (and when I have more time, I'll dive more into ISOs).

That said, esooa's claim and Syn's response is the only mechy thing we have at the moment.

This is an amazing cop-out

Why's that?

I believe your contributions today are closer to lolcatting than they are to solving.

[Syn]

why would I be lolcatting dawg

makey no sonsey

[Syn]

burning a precious post on correcting sonsey to sensey

[Wiml]

I'm actually thinking Syn might just be town here.

[Deli]

Whatever Syn is doing is anti town so unless he tracked Esooa and she did not visit wiml, or he JKd Esooa, there is no reason not to believe her. There could have been a JK somewhere else that caused the no NK, either thru protecting the Jk target or by preventing w!jktarget from getting off their kill. We have very little information and what Syn has done has been anti-town and tbh between it and the petty fighting it’s all been pretty demoralizing.

I’m busy, have a job interview tomorrow I’m really excited about. I’m working the 25 minutes leading up to EoD so I’ll only be here tomorrow during a short window. Someone else solve the fucking game.

[Creature]

One would think that if the gamestate were "wolf dominated", as creature put it, that it would be relatively easy to say who at least some of the wolves are dominating the game.

It's apathy-dominated and some wolves bathing on half-assed pushes.

I don't feel apathetic, but I'm feeling extremely reserved in terms of participating in a long discussion about the game due to the post cap. Since we don't have the ability to rely on a lot of chatting, or even volume-clearing people, I'm relying more on mech information for voting atm (and when I have more time, I'll dive more into ISOs).

That said, esooa's claim and Syn's response is the only mechy thing we have at the moment.

idk the post cap ends making us post way below the actual post cap.

Syn's thing is really distracting for me because I can't tell from which place it comes. Also, why is Mac being wagoned?

Tbh, Syn's response is actually anti-indicative of him being a wolf if I was actually the kill target. I doubt he goes down this route if he has TMI that Esooa is telling the truth.

I also don't think anybody will get any more from this Syn discussion now tbh. This is normal Syn behaviour lol.

Syn's normal behavior is to say "this is a lie", keep it as vague as possible and then not do anything about it?

[Deli]

Like, we should be in great shape to solve with no NK and a doctor claim, but instead we got some bizarre non-cc troll refutation that feels like it’s making the game unplayable. Instead of discussions of who to lunch, all we’ve gotten is confusion and muddled garbage.

[Deli]

Mac has been wolfy af, I thought I had another reason to wagon him and then realized I completely misread the thread and it became irrelevant. I still think he is >rand a wolf but tbh I don’t think we should lunch there today probably.

[hollowkatt]

Mac has been wolfy af, I thought I had another reason to wagon him and then realized I completely misread the thread and it became irrelevant. I still think he is >rand a wolf but tbh I don’t think we should lunch there today probably.

who should we lunch then, and more importantly, why?

[Deli]

How is this normal ???

He’s probably a wolf just laughing at all of us >.<

Probably not worth reading

► Show Spoiler

tinfoiling a Syn/wiml wolf team

► Show Spoiler

don’t tell wiml

[Syn]

I want to open up a creature deli and serve up some marmot

[Deli]

Mac has been wolfy af, I thought I had another reason to wagon him and then realized I completely misread the thread and it became irrelevant. I still think he is >rand a wolf but tbh I don’t think we should lunch there today probably.

who should we lunch then, and more importantly, why?

I DON’T KNOW. Congrats Syndicate, you’ve broken a Deli

I mean maybe we resolve the wagons and lunch falcon, but I actually think he has been villagery today in tone,

and Marmot has spiraled downward.

Creature seems fine for lunch, but his tone has also been fine today.

The only thing stopping me from saying 100% Syn is that if it is some kind of softed claim we always need to lunch outside of it.

Gavial also seems fine to lunch, they were wolfy d1 the entire time and haven’t improved at all on tone.

A gavial/wiml/Syn world actually exists tbh. Wiml shielding both of them now that it seems mechanically he is likely clear hmm and tbh not really seeing much gamesolving from wiml as of late, just quips to clear ppl.

[Deli]

Does gavial bus? They’ve been pushing syn iirc hmm

[Deli]

I want to open up a creature deli and serve up some marmot

Why creature?

Why deli?

Why marmot?

Why don’t you explain anything? Can you please play the game and stop messing around?

[Syn]

I want to open up a creature deli and serve up some marmot

Why creature?

Why deli?

Why marmot?

Why don’t you explain anything? Can you please play the game and stop messing around?

this is why

[Creature]

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

[Wiml]

One would think that if the gamestate were "wolf dominated", as creature put it, that it would be relatively easy to say who at least some of the wolves are dominating the game.

It's apathy-dominated and some wolves bathing on half-assed pushes.

I don't feel apathetic, but I'm feeling extremely reserved in terms of participating in a long discussion about the game due to the post cap. Since we don't have the ability to rely on a lot of chatting, or even volume-clearing people, I'm relying more on mech information for voting atm (and when I have more time, I'll dive more into ISOs).

That said, esooa's claim and Syn's response is the only mechy thing we have at the moment.

idk the post cap ends making us post way below the actual post cap.

Syn's thing is really distracting for me because I can't tell from which place it comes. Also, why is Mac being wagoned?

Tbh, Syn's response is actually anti-indicative of him being a wolf if I was actually the kill target. I doubt he goes down this route if he has TMI that Esooa is telling the truth.

I also don't think anybody will get any more from this Syn discussion now tbh. This is normal Syn behaviour lol.

Syn's normal behavior is to say "this is a lie", keep it as vague as possible and then not do anything about it?

Yeah. At the very least, this is something Syn is equally likely to do as town than as a wolf.

Wrt Mac, I have an issue with his case on me yesterday that I went over then (I felt like he called me a good wolf to gloss over the towny parts of my ISO and then accused me of really level 1 wolf mistakes that contradict that) as well as having issues with his TMI arguments in particular (saying my read on Esooa was TMI because of weird phrasing, saying Kami's response to his reads was a TMI slip when I think it's very apparent it wasn't) and I think he's better than to believe in those arguments in particular? I thought him backing off of me was towny originally but I'm also now concerned that he backed off of me too quickly- as soon as I showed resistance (which, given Mac's experiences with me in the past, he probably wouldn't have expected) and want to review that exchange.

I'm struggling to recall what I think he's done that's towny now but I'm going to have another look.