Traitors for Exile

[Marmot]

@Gavial we have a hammer.

[MacDougall]

wow rly lol

[Gira]

oh ok

[Gira]

i get it as a policy vote but feels lazy given where we are

[Gavial]

@Gavial we have a hammer.

Heard!
I’ll deal with it later!

[Creature]

i get it as a policy vote but feels lazy given where we are

Same but Marmot's vote should probably be final here.

[Gira]

i get it as a policy vote but feels lazy given where we are

Same but Marmot's vote should probably be final here.

true

[Gavial]

Can’t make the new poll ATM I may add in the vote count later @JaggedJimmyJay can remind me but
KGMurphy was Traitor

It is now Exile Phase please welcome back Poison!

[Marmot]

Oh fuck yeah!!!

[Gavial]

Need a Replacement for 112!

[Gira]

lol

the best part is: being wrong has absolutely no bearing on my alignment

[KZA]

elite plays...

[MacDougall]

lmao

[Creature]

Can’t make the new poll ATM I may add in the vote count later @JaggedJimmyJay can remind me but
KGMurphy was Traitor

It is now Exile Phase please welcome back Poison!

Oh that worked sweet after all

[Creature]

So we just alternate every night

[Creature]

2)Marmot
3)Long Con
4)Gira
5)KZA
6)112 - Already exiled N1
8)MacDougall
9)Creature
10)Poison - Already exiled N2
11)Wisdom
12)WimI
14)Auwt
15)MissSparkles

[Gira]

reminder to marmot not to out green checks

and with that i will bid you good night

[Creature]

reminder to marmot not to out green checks

and with that i will bid you good night

Ohkay

[MacDougall]

this game shouldn't be this easy... we can probably win with rng from this point

[Creature]

Should we exile Long Con? They aren't doing anything anyway and will prob be lynched later in the game.

[MacDougall]

Should we exile Long Con? They aren't doing anything anyway and will prob be lynched later in the game.

LC slanking is town for him.

[Creature]

Should we exile Long Con? They aren't doing anything anyway and will prob be lynched later in the game.

LC slanking is town for him.

Cool. As long we aren't considering lynching him tomorrow he should be a fine exile.

[Creature]

I'm bored.

[Creature]

I think I should sleep.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'll set up a new poll in just a moment. Here's the previous poll.

[MacDougall]

@Long Con where's your head at?

[Long Con]

@Long Con where's your head at?

Not anywhere useful. I have been following along somewhat, but it's all so nebulous. I am not a Traitor. I will go with Marmot's lead, and sheep the common ideal, because I know there's no team effort behind a sensible resistance to the town. Some Traitor might slip through our fingers due to a bad green check, or they might not.

[Poison]

KGMurphy was Traitor

Guys, y'all are dumb.

The host has already declared one Traitor for us.

Look at voting poll.

The host says "I work with him"

And we know the famous saying, "If you know the criminal and keep sush about it, you are the equal criminal they are]

The host knows who the criminals are. The traitors. He is the criminal along with them.

But we can spare the host.

So basically he said he works with Murphy. So Murphy is the Traitor.


Ez.

[Poison]

Poison's reaction to my suggestion that we don't just exile her every day wasn't great (because yeah I'm literally suggesting a strategy that close to guarantees we don't lose to exile regardless of any single player's alignment) but I think that the assertion from her that me not supporting a winning town strategy from her PoV makes me less likely to be town is probably towny? (Even though it's a very flawed assessment mechanically).

I was hesitant seeing how desperate she seemed to be to get exiled repeatedly but I think it's less likely that she immediately jumps to calling me a wolf without understanding what I'm suggesting if she's actually a wolf?

Not entirely sure on this yet but it was a thought I had.

Can you quote the post from where you interpreted "
Poison's reaction to my suggestion that we don't just exile her every day wasn't great"

@Wiml

If you are reading correctly and then coming to this conclusion then you are framing me without a base.

If you are reading it wrong and then posting so boldly then I would suggest you to take some time before making a conclusion.

Now, about your opinion and the whole exile thing,
1. I was against exiling the same person twice. I have talked about it in more than one post. I have even referred to Creature and said his plan about exiling the same person to win won't be a good idea at all. For that I asked Gavial and confirmed my doubts and clearly stated I am against exiling a single player twice, every day shouldn't be a question there at all.

2. Your strategy about exiling was what I was against not that I wanted to get exiled myself. Again just quote me. Cause you can't make up stories against me that never happened. The fact that you said I'm desperate about getting exiled is wayyy too much, I haven't even self voted or asked a single player to vote for me. I just didn't want you to be exiled because of my earlier concerns.

@MacDougall yeah traitors don't know who other traitors are but they are moving their wands and things would be happening like magic.

@Poison

I came to the conclusion that your actions were towniet and that I felt a bit better about you actually being town.

I don't understand what you're against at all then? My entire suggestion was never to exile the same person twice and then you went off at it? I absolutely agree that shouldn't be the case.

@Wiml It's not about the conclusion and you reading me town but the fact that you were wrong. You mentioned something about four other townies over a greencheck to be exiled + some wording with "exiling 1,2 traitors would be okay" I wasn't sure about that and hence I said in the thread I'll review it later, but you believed in a wrong argument and was bold about it. Generally seen as a wolf trait.

[MacDougall]

just exile me I would love a couple of days off

[MacDougall]

@Gavial is it meant to be ambiguous whether the anti cop has flipped or not?

[Wiml]

Great! Yeah so now it doesn't even really matter who we exile because as long as we never exile the same person twice we can't lose to exile.

[Wiml]

Poison's reaction to my suggestion that we don't just exile her every day wasn't great (because yeah I'm literally suggesting a strategy that close to guarantees we don't lose to exile regardless of any single player's alignment) but I think that the assertion from her that me not supporting a winning town strategy from her PoV makes me less likely to be town is probably towny? (Even though it's a very flawed assessment mechanically).

I was hesitant seeing how desperate she seemed to be to get exiled repeatedly but I think it's less likely that she immediately jumps to calling me a wolf without understanding what I'm suggesting if she's actually a wolf?

Not entirely sure on this yet but it was a thought I had.

Can you quote the post from where you interpreted "
Poison's reaction to my suggestion that we don't just exile her every day wasn't great"

@Wiml

If you are reading correctly and then coming to this conclusion then you are framing me without a base.

If you are reading it wrong and then posting so boldly then I would suggest you to take some time before making a conclusion.

Now, about your opinion and the whole exile thing,
1. I was against exiling the same person twice. I have talked about it in more than one post. I have even referred to Creature and said his plan about exiling the same person to win won't be a good idea at all. For that I asked Gavial and confirmed my doubts and clearly stated I am against exiling a single player twice, every day shouldn't be a question there at all.

2. Your strategy about exiling was what I was against not that I wanted to get exiled myself. Again just quote me. Cause you can't make up stories against me that never happened. The fact that you said I'm desperate about getting exiled is wayyy too much, I haven't even self voted or asked a single player to vote for me. I just didn't want you to be exiled because of my earlier concerns.

@MacDougall yeah traitors don't know who other traitors are but they are moving their wands and things would be happening like magic.

@Poison

I came to the conclusion that your actions were towniet and that I felt a bit better about you actually being town.

I don't understand what you're against at all then? My entire suggestion was never to exile the same person twice and then you went off at it? I absolutely agree that shouldn't be the case.

@Wiml It's not about the conclusion and you reading me town but the fact that you were wrong. You mentioned something about four other townies over a greencheck to be exiled + some wording with "exiling 1,2 traitors would be okay" I wasn't sure about that and hence I said in the thread I'll review it later, but you believed in a wrong argument and was bold about it. Generally seen as a wolf trait.

Yeah but... you still haven't explained why that argument is wrong.

[MacDougall]

Great! Yeah so now it doesn't even really matter who we exile because as long as we never exile the same person twice we can't lose to exile.

This is a good point.

[MacDougall]

So how bout this;

Exile LC chop Auwt
Exile Wisdom chop LC
Exile Sparkles chop Wisdom
Exile Mac chop Sparkles
Then exile me if the game is still going lol.

@Gavial if we can majority agree to this can you just roll this outcome?

[MacDougall]

by exile me I mean chop

[Wisdom]

Awh I miss KGMurphy already, he always voted me for exile

Two to go though, right? Almost there!

[Wisdom]

Have marmot given us a peek?

[Wisdom]

I've been struck with Personal Issues ™ and Bad Timing ™ but I'll be here when I can

[MacDougall]

Can someone make an argument against us just all agreeing to my plan then rolling it?

[Wisdom]

Can someone make an argument against us just all agreeing to my plan then rolling it?

Didn't you just say 112 could be wolfing?

Also we have a cop.

I'm all in for speeding things up, I'm not in for doing it auto.

[Wisdom]

But yeah if we exile different people each night wolves won't be able to win that way anymore.

[Wiml]

Can someone make an argument against us just all agreeing to my plan then rolling it?

I think the main issue is with Marmot's peeks tbh. It might be better to just agree to speed hammer for a few rounds so the pool of people Marmot can peek is larger?

But I agree with the sentiment of the plan and getting this over with.

[Wisdom]

Not as confident in wolf!Auwt.

At least one wolf in LC/Gira

Then I don't know.

[Wisdom]

Actually if 112 and Poison were both wolves we might still lose by exile x)
No, wait
Nevermind
Let's not exile them again then, derp

[Wisdom]

Okay so let's quickhammer exile literally whoever it doesn't matter
Not marmot obviously

[MacDougall]

wouldn't the safe option here now be to just chop who we've exiled?

[Wisdom]

wouldn't the safe option here now be to just chop who we've exiled?

Nah, we can exile literally whoever as long as the same person doesn't get exiled twice. I'd prefer marmot to have control over the chop.

[Long Con]

Oh, awesome, KG was traitor! Good job guys. I'm fine with the rotating Exile plan.

[Gavial]

@Gavial is it meant to be ambiguous whether the anti cop has flipped or not?

If they die they will be revealed to be the Anti-Cop