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#9201

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:37 pm I'll bring this one back (click) again as the best moment for lost monkey.

I think it's the timing and context of nutella's motion against Lomo that is most important. Any mafioso can make a case to create distance, so I would understand if nutella casing Lomo isn't enough on its own power to clear Lomo as of Day 7. I would find that a little irresponsible too. However, what's most important to me about this is that nutella's case came on the heels of my own case against Lomo. That's textbook opportunism, and I think it makes it notably more likely that this is not distancing. My own case is linked via the link above.

I think distancing is more unlikely when three mafiosos were being strung up D1, too. They can't just bend over and die, they have to force through some deaths on townies that look like they can be run up.

#9202

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:34 pm Gnome is definitely feeding me the appeal to emotion. It's kind of fun that it's literally embedded in our roles.

More like the shaggy defense tbh.

#9203

IF the assertions I have made to clear Alison, Allcrab, and lost monkey are accurate, then the winning POE of three must be [Gnome, Martin, Mac].

Esooa is out. I am me. That does mean that not-me folks will have to clear me as well if they have not already done so with confidence to arrive conclusively at the above group.

If I have cleared someone wrongly it would hardly be the first time. For that reason I hope folks will talk with me about it. The game might be as simple as chop Gnome, but it also might not be. Let's be prepared for the worst. Town has no business doing anything except winning this game. Cover all bases and make it impossible for anything else to occur regardless of Gnome.

#9204

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:34 pm Gnome is definitely feeding me the appeal to emotion. It's kind of fun that it's literally embedded in our roles.
More like the shaggy defense tbh.

What's that? Sounds scandalous.

#9205

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:43 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:34 pm Gnome is definitely feeding me the appeal to emotion. It's kind of fun that it's literally embedded in our roles.
More like the shaggy defense tbh.
What's that? Sounds scandalous.

Watch this video to understand the Shaggy Defense.

#9206

It would seem that Alison herself is on board with my rationale. Groovy. I cannot imagine everyone has the same POE though. So there'll be much to discuss. I know Mac for example has voiced some alternative perspectives. This is the day for that.

#9207

Well I'll be damned. Real humans with faces are responsible for that song.

#9208

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:30 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:20 pm I tried to convince Gnome last night to kill me if she's mafia so we could die in one another's arms for a beautiful thematic ending.

Alas, here we are. I have no confident reason to say she's town.
I tried to persuade my true love that I have no access to the dramatic (or even anti-climactic) night kill, and that I never did. Apparently, I didn't succeed. It seems that the romance has died.

I am town. I don't know why I survived the poison. It makes no sense at all, but here we are.
Do you think that I should not suspect you?

Who else do you suspect?

#9209

With faces?

#9210

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:45 pm It would seem that Alison herself is on board with my rationale. Groovy. I cannot imagine everyone has the same POE though. So there'll be much to discuss. I know Mac for example has voiced some alternative perspectives. This is the day for that.

I am on board with your POE yes.

#9211

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:42 pm IF the assertions I have made to clear Alison, Allcrab, and lost monkey are accurate, then the winning POE of three must be [Gnome, Martin, Mac].

Esooa is out. I am me. That does mean that not-me folks will have to clear me as well if they have not already done so with confidence to arrive conclusively at the above group.

If I have cleared someone wrongly it would hardly be the first time. For that reason I hope folks will talk with me about it. The game might be as simple as chop Gnome, but it also might not be. Let's be prepared for the worst. Town has no business doing anything except winning this game. Cover all bases and make it impossible for anything else to occur regardless of Gnome.

If you want to chop me, go and and do so. Then get ready for day eight. At least my demise will narrow your PoE.

#9212

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:51 pmWith faces?

I'm being silly. I've never seen the music video nor put faces to the voices.

#9213

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:53 pm If you want to chop me, go and and do so. Then get ready for day eight. At least my demise will narrow your PoE.

If you had to put three names into a POE, who would you choose?

#9214

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:34 pm Gnome is definitely feeding me the appeal to emotion. It's kind of fun that it's literally embedded in our roles.

It is so romantic, but, alas, it looks like you're going to be a widower after today. Also, you'll still have scum to catch.

#9215

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:56 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:53 pm If you want to chop me, go and and do so. Then get ready for day eight. At least my demise will narrow your PoE.
If you had to put three names into a POE, who would you choose?

Alison, MacDougall, Martin.

#9216

The last three mafia night kills can be traced to Mac in some manner or another. Seanzie and Sloonei were both clearly anti-Mac at the times of their deaths. Nanook was hush hush on his Mac view, but is someone who understands Mac pretty well (and per Esooa viewed him as POE-worthy) -- a threat by meta.

#9217

If I had to give an order of chops within my POE, I think it'd be: Gnome --> Mac --> Martin

#9218

Frankly Mac already conceded, so I would be open to killing him even today.

#9219

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:02 pm Frankly Mac already conceded, so I would be open to killing him even today.

Sure, let's do so. I've already voted him.

#9220

My order of chop would be Mac/Martin/and, why bother, the game is over.

#9221

@Esooa I’m completely certain that if Mac is mafia he intends to weaponize you. Don’t let him. Make him kill you.

#9222

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:01 pm If I had to give an order of chops within my POE, I think it'd be: Gnome --> Mac --> Martin

That is also my chop order, although Martin goes second if Gnome flips scum but the game doesn't end.

#9223

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:05 pm My order of chop would be Mac/Martin/and, why bother, the game is over.

Where did your suspicion of me go to?

#9224

Also I believe we have 3 misexes left so if you think Mac/Martin ends the game then you should have no objection whatsoever to you -> Mac -> Martin.

#9225

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:45 pm I cannot imagine everyone has the same POE though

Well I would if it didn't count as playing against any wincon imaginable for any alignment imaginable to POE myself.

So I do-don't. Mostly do but technically don't. I think it's fair.

May not be correct if it suggests flipping me. But it's sure as hell be reasonable.

#9226

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:17 pm But it's sure as hell reasonable

Ebwop.

#9227

just give your POE martin. you don't have to explain why you aren't POE-ing yourself lol.

#9228

It's litterally [Mac/Gnome, Gnome/Mac, probably LoMo]

Though LoMo is likely spewed town; I just think his case for being spewed town may not be the strongest.

#9229

@lost monkey did you get any information?

#9230

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:20 pm It's litterally [Mac/Gnome, Gnome/Mac, probably LoMo]

Though LoMo is likely spewed town; I just think his case for being spewed town may not be the strongest.

Alison not in your POE?

#9231

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:16 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:05 pm My order of chop would be Mac/Martin/and, why bother, the game is over.
Where did your suspicion of me go to?

It went to "I really believe that Mac is the scum and the game will end with his chop."

#9232

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:02 pm Frankly Mac already conceded, so I would be open to killing him even today.

That's one way to interpret things sure.

#9233

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:24 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:16 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:05 pm My order of chop would be Mac/Martin/and, why bother, the game is over.
Where did your suspicion of me go to?
It went to "I really believe that Mac is the scum and the game will end with his chop."

Why?

#9234

lol Mac is mafia

#9235

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:25 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:24 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:16 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:05 pm My order of chop would be Mac/Martin/and, why bother, the game is over.
Where did your suspicion of me go to?
It went to "I really believe that Mac is the scum and the game will end with his chop."
Why?

I agree with JJJ that he is the most likely to have done the NKs that happened in the last three nights.
I still don't know who healed me of the poison, however.

#9236

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:23 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:20 pm It's litterally [Mac/Gnome, Gnome/Mac, probably LoMo]

Though LoMo is likely spewed town; I just think his case for being spewed town may not be the strongest.
Alison not in your POE?

She's spewed town by Owner.

I think the comments made by owner to her are just categorically awkward and unusual for w/w posting, and often fulfil no purpose if w/w imo.

There can be a

argument to that but I think its stretching and is more servant to paranoia rather than to reason.

#9237

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:08 pm @Esooa I’m completely certain that if Mac is mafia he intends to weaponize you. Don’t let him. Make him kill you.

Yes mastermind Mac is going to manipulate people into doing my bidding. Gosh golly.

#9238

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:25 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:24 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:16 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:05 pm My order of chop would be Mac/Martin/and, why bother, the game is over.
Where did your suspicion of me go to?
It went to "I really believe that Mac is the scum and the game will end with his chop."
Why?
I agree with JJJ that he is the most likely to have done the NKs that happened in the last three nights.
I still don't know who healed me of the poison, however.

You are talking to Mac right now lol.

#9239

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:08 pm @Esooa I’m completely certain that if Mac is mafia he intends to weaponize you. Don’t let him. Make him kill you.
Yes mastermind Mac is going to manipulate people into doing my bidding. Gosh golly.

what a ridiculous assertion

#9240

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:26 pm lol Mac is mafia

ffs

#9241

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:26 pm lol Mac is mafia
ffs

Your energy is all wrong today my guy

#9242

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:08 pm @Esooa I’m completely certain that if Mac is mafia he intends to weaponize you. Don’t let him. Make him kill you.
Yes mastermind Mac is going to manipulate people into doing my bidding. Gosh golly.
what a ridiculous assertion

Bruh I am hard in the POE and Esooa isn't a dummy.

#9243

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:26 pm lol Mac is mafia
ffs
Your energy is all wrong today my guy

Jay pulling out energy reads. Maybe take a seat on the bench for today champ and let the real ones do some work.

#9244

Lord knows you probably have better things to do. Maybe swipe right a few times.

#9245

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:31 pm Jay pulling out energy reads. Maybe take a seat on the bench for today champ and let the real ones do some work.

O K A Y

#9246

all grumpy people are scum

#9247

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:34 pm all grumpy people are scum

Lol I think I've disproven that a thousand times over.

#9248

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:56 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:56 pm Allcrab and LoMo can confirm my role in coordination I think.

For instance. Allcrab targets whomever. Force me to target them to. LoMo also watches them. If I target them they together will get a full watch result. If I don't target the player or one of those two dies then I am outed.
I have no one shots remaining, i am just a VT now.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:23 pm @lost monkey did you get any information?

my face

#9249

Dealing with several days of being hard POE in a game with Jay in it is not my idea of fun.

#9250

not a joke read. Town has exed all scum except for hawk, and we are collectively converging on a strong POE that seems very similar. Scum are grumpy and lashing out at the box, town are like "idgaf we're gonna win"

Gnome has been townier than Mac today but has mech against her, Mac has been scummy today for being grumpy and total self defense mode.

I am voting Gnome because mech > reads but hard to see how we don't have auto by going one into the other.