Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:53 pm
Reading HK's ISO, it reads strongly like he had a red check on Deli, but I can't decipher any meaning from his throwaway line on Marmot
Haven't read it but I'm confident he had mech reasons to doubt their claim and didn't want to out.
The question is mostly if he had another PR read in mind or a red check, I'm leaning the latter?
Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:56 pm
okay no this makes sense
if he tracked Deli to Wiml and there was no kill, then his belief of me calling Esooa a liar parses (he even later says if he were the real doctor, he wouldn't directly CC the claim, softing that he thinks I'm CCing), and it explains his IMMEDIATE vote for Deli when Deli claims they JK'd Mac instead of Wiml if HK actually saw Deli go to Wiml
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:43 pm
I think deli is the mafia in that difference check, hk vote and calling out could be cause they tracked and didn't see them go anywhere n1, coupled with hk nk, I think points towards deli
Oh you trying to frame them but we will see what Deli flips.
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:04 pm
Can we agree Esooa is likely town here?
If yes, then I think it may be more optimal for us to always lynch Deli here. If Deli flips jailkeeper then we almost always lynch NANOOK the next day. If Deli flips mafia then we can solve Marmot/me the next day.
I think she enjoys wolfing too much than to waste a wolf game on a D2 doc claim tbh.
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:14 pm
I think Deli probably dies today but let's not have a bad early hammer?
Yeah, I think I'll wait for everybody to weigh in on what they think about lynching Deli first. Not sure if I can really do anything today until the PR claims have been sorted.
Gavial wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:17 pm
Still hesitate because Nanook could be scum.
Thus if Deli flips Town I’m omega voting Nanook into a death tunnel tomorrow.
Yep, if Deli flips town NANOOK is probably always wolf here.
I'm the parity cop i have a difference check between Marmot and creature
HK's flip means there's also a difference check between esooa and deli
Dab
I believe Esooa, you however, I don't believe. If true, it makes sense the way you've played it but I have a really hard time believing Esooa claims with no pressure there
I JK'd Wiml fwiw, I figured they were worried about him and it would keep him safe from the NK and that Esooa probably doctors herself. not really sure how Esooa plays doctor there but it was my best guess. Didn't think I'd survive given the gamestate
I'm the parity cop i have a difference check between Marmot and creature
HK's flip means there's also a difference check between esooa and deli
Dab
I believe Esooa, you however, I don't believe. If true, it makes sense the way you've played it but I have a really hard time believing Esooa claims with no pressure there
Deli wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:36 pm
I JK'd Wiml fwiw, I figured they were worried about him and it would keep him safe from the NK and that Esooa probably doctors herself. not really sure how Esooa plays doctor there but it was my best guess. Didn't think I'd survive given the gamestate
Deli wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:36 pm
I JK'd Wiml fwiw, I figured they were worried about him and it would keep him safe from the NK and that Esooa probably doctors herself. not really sure how Esooa plays doctor there but it was my best guess. Didn't think I'd survive given the gamestate
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:13 pm
I was starting to tinfoil Deli pre-claim. Their claim makes sense from a wolf perspective to self pres and to discredit me I suppose? Hk's death points to Deli being a wolf too.
I am shocked if Esooa is wolfing tbh.
After my initial reaction that he wouldn't lie, I need to assess the merits of a Nook fake claim here (he's a PoE slot and getting two miselims before dying is probably a good trade). But if Nook is a wolf candidate we never chop him today so he can get another peek.
Sorry if ly thoughts are scattered, I'm really exhausted right now and will try to contribute better shortly.
I'm not getting another peek lol I always die tonight
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:13 pm
I was starting to tinfoil Deli pre-claim. Their claim makes sense from a wolf perspective to self pres and to discredit me I suppose? Hk's death points to Deli being a wolf too.
I am shocked if Esooa is wolfing tbh.
After my initial reaction that he wouldn't lie, I need to assess the merits of a Nook fake claim here (he's a PoE slot and getting two miselims before dying is probably a good trade). But if Nook is a wolf candidate we never chop him today so he can get another peek.
Sorry if ly thoughts are scattered, I'm really exhausted right now and will try to contribute better shortly.
I'm not getting another peek lol I always die tonight
Yeah I didn't realise about the strongman.
There are ways we can avoid you dying tonight if town (chopping in Marm/Creature/other PoE slot and having the wolves possibly not take the risk in a direct cc battle) but I'm not convinced that's the play.
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:13 pm
I was starting to tinfoil Deli pre-claim. Their claim makes sense from a wolf perspective to self pres and to discredit me I suppose? Hk's death points to Deli being a wolf too.
I am shocked if Esooa is wolfing tbh.
After my initial reaction that he wouldn't lie, I need to assess the merits of a Nook fake claim here (he's a PoE slot and getting two miselims before dying is probably a good trade). But if Nook is a wolf candidate we never chop him today so he can get another peek.
Sorry if ly thoughts are scattered, I'm really exhausted right now and will try to contribute better shortly.
I'm not getting another peek lol I always die tonight
Yeah I didn't realise about the strongman.
There are ways we can avoid you dying tonight if town (chopping in Marm/Creature/other PoE slot and having the wolves possibly not take the risk in a direct cc battle) but I'm not convinced that's the play.
Naw even if we kill in my difference check I still die, they can't afford me getting another check off, and they still have esooa to 1v1
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:44 pm
Seth possible tmi, likely works as third partner in all worlds imo
interesting
I asked Deli how many games they've played with Mac because they've pushed him hard and now put him as your partner if we, town, are being railroaded, implying excellent wolf manipulation play, and specifically slotting in Mac for that
when they said no games, I immediately thought "the team is deli/marmot/gavial"
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:44 pm
Seth possible tmi, likely works as third partner in all worlds imo
interesting
I asked Deli how many games they've played with Mac because they've pushed him hard and now put him as your partner if we, town, are being railroaded, implying excellent wolf manipulation play, and specifically slotting in Mac for that
when they said no games, I immediately thought "the team is deli/marmot/gavial"
I've pushed mac hard because he is wolfy af, but when someone's avatar is "mafia god" and everyone who has played with them is afraid to push them, yeah I feel like that's a person who could open wolf and get away with it
It isn't me, and I'm fairly certain Marmot is village. You saying gavial makes me clear them.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:44 pm
Seth possible tmi, likely works as third partner in all worlds imo
interesting
I asked Deli how many games they've played with Mac because they've pushed him hard and now put him as your partner if we, town, are being railroaded, implying excellent wolf manipulation play, and specifically slotting in Mac for that
when they said no games, I immediately thought "the team is deli/marmot/gavial"
I've pushed mac hard because he is wolfy af, but when someone's avatar is "mafia god" and everyone who has played with them is afraid to push them, yeah I feel like that's a person who could open wolf and get away with it
It isn't me, and I'm fairly certain Marmot is village. You saying gavial makes me clear them.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:44 pm
Seth possible tmi, likely works as third partner in all worlds imo
interesting
I asked Deli how many games they've played with Mac because they've pushed him hard and now put him as your partner if we, town, are being railroaded, implying excellent wolf manipulation play, and specifically slotting in Mac for that
when they said no games, I immediately thought "the team is deli/marmot/gavial"
My confidence in Marmot being a wolf is a little higher than Deli. But they are both super wolfy without the difference checks and are in difference checks with towny as fuck players.