Lasagna Mafia [END]

[ejjinami]

or no, that’s wrong- not that you couldn’t. Just that you were aware that you had absolutely no reason behind your confidence but were too lazy to make up any sort of explanation or reevaluate

aka: pretending to have reads while not actually solving

[Esooa]

can we just preflip obvscum creature and call me town for now I don't want to make towny posts

[Esooa]

orange my read on you is actually so incredible it works revolutionize the game and it would be unfair to everyone it is applied to because it's too good so I choose not to out it

real shit

[Esooa]

I really don't see a third that isn't Syn

[Creature]

what do you think about syn?

and esooa actually :P

I believe they're both town

you didn’t even think about the answer before posting, did you? :/

Do you even have any scum-reads atm?
If you consider yourself town and town-read both esooa and son, I’m pretty sure you will either have to end up scum-reading people who are obviously town, or no one lol

So you believe Syn and Esooa are wolves?

don’t change the subject lol
If I’m telling you that your reads don’t make sense, either change them or prove me wrong
If you actually have them, that is

But you're saying that if I townread Syn and Esooa then I will end up scumreading obvtown. That suggests you think everybody else is obvtown while Syn and Esooa are wolves.

Syn is in my PoE. Up to reevaluation but I haven’t gotten there yet
Esooa has good interactions. Not clearing enough to be in the town-core but more than good enough for now imo

don’t act stupid, please. You do understand what I asked about
Avoiding to elaborate on your reads and trying to change the subject to myself makes me think that they are fake and you just couldn’t elaborate on them in the first place

But then what did you mean when you said I'll end up scumreading obviously town or no one?

[ejjinami]

it's entirely possible Falcon was killed because he didn't leave a check and could have been the cop so killing him doesn't leave a SHC if it misses. I'm not sure if I want to clear hyena just off that kill has his posts didn't seem like a check to me really

doesn’t matter
hyena is obvious town because of meta anyway

I’ve played with him multiple times. I cannot say with 100% confidence that I’m always able to catch him but at least in his 2 last wolf games, I really struggled with getting a read on him. Had him in the PoE nearly the entire time
it’s kinda hard to explain cuz I’m not really sure what I’m reading him for either but nearly immediately after he started writing here I was like: “holy fuck, he is town”…
this only intensified since

If I were to try, I’d say that the most obvious thing here would be that he doesn’t seem to give a crap about what people think of him or his reads? The fact that he’s interacting with everyone, asking about every single thing, being playful despite some pressure on him is town-indicative imo

This is going to sound crazy, but I think I genuinely want to go for either Esooa or Alison.

Suggesting a crazy CFD while completely ignoring the existing wagons is sth I think he would only do as town as well. Even if there’s scum among [syn, creature], scum!hyena doesn’t just ignore all of that and push his own lynches

scum!hyena DOES care about doing the “objectively townie” stuff. From what I’ve seen, he tends to comment on all wagons, try to get people to argue (actively participate in the discussion of mis-eliminations so that people focus on them more)
and he’s just not doing that here… his reads seemed totally disconnected from the general consensus D1, pushing only what HE wanted to push and ignoring everything else

idk if that makes sense but I really feel like he should just be town here

[Luckbox Inc]

I really don't see a third that isn't Syn

Deli can definitely be a wolf and Syn seems villagery

[fingersplints]

The cop game has a cop. The implications are obvious and I've explained them. Waste your time on me if you wish though

I don’t consider attempting to solve someone a waste of time in a mafia game. I mean I guess unless you look at the bigger picture of “is mafia a waste of time?” But let’s not go down that path right now haha

Can you please reiterate the case on creature? I mean I think we should follow nanook’s lead first but that can be a contender for next day

[ejjinami]

Good to know that creature is still playing dumb.

This feels like a waste of time

[Esooa]

The cop game has a cop. The implications are obvious and I've explained them. Waste your time on me if you wish though

I don’t consider attempting to solve someone a waste of time in a mafia game. I mean I guess unless you look at the bigger picture of “is mafia a waste of time?” But let’s not go down that path right now haha

Can you please reiterate the case on creature? I mean I think we should follow nanook’s lead first but that can be a contender for next day

I mean, I'm definitely not the most important person to be considering for you imo

[Esooa]

it's entirely possible Falcon was killed because he didn't leave a check and could have been the cop so killing him doesn't leave a SHC if it misses. I'm not sure if I want to clear hyena just off that kill has his posts didn't seem like a check to me really

doesn’t matter
hyena is obvious town because of meta anyway

I’ve played with him multiple times. I cannot say with 100% confidence that I’m always able to catch him but at least in his 2 last wolf games, I really struggled with getting a read on him. Had him in the PoE nearly the entire time
it’s kinda hard to explain cuz I’m not really sure what I’m reading him for either but nearly immediately after he started writing here I was like: “holy fuck, he is town”…
this only intensified since

If I were to try, I’d say that the most obvious thing here would be that he doesn’t seem to give a crap about what people think of him or his reads? The fact that he’s interacting with everyone, asking about every single thing, being playful despite some pressure on him is town-indicative imo

This is going to sound crazy, but I think I genuinely want to go for either Esooa or Alison.

Suggesting a crazy CFD while completely ignoring the existing wagons is sth I think he would only do as town as well. Even if there’s scum among [syn, creature], scum!hyena doesn’t just ignore all of that and push his own lynches

scum!hyena DOES care about doing the “objectively townie” stuff. From what I’ve seen, he tends to comment on all wagons, try to get people to argue (actively participate in the discussion of mis-eliminations so that people focus on them more)
and he’s just not doing that here… his reads seemed totally disconnected from the general consensus D1, pushing only what HE wanted to push and ignoring everything else

idk if that makes sense but I really feel like he should just be town here

I'm fine with considering Hyena as town atm

[Esooa]

Ok sorry I didn't end up catching up last night

I just ISOd creature and yeah that's not great

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

What changed about your previous townread on Creature?

You're still scumreading Kami, right?

Creature feels more rand than overtly wolf ughhh I need more time

Just kill Nanook since I'm apparently mafia to him but also worth voting with

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

these quotes should tell you all you need to know about Creature

[Esooa]

I give up trying to catch up

I’m on mobile and running errands for the next few hours

Someone explain to me why Esooa is being emo and saying she doesn’t want to play

And FYI that is wolfy for her ime

As in like in Shakespeare?

Yes and weren’t you two wolves together there?

Yes. I remember Esooa being quite obvious but AtEing her way out for almost two days.

Tbh you both seem similar here and can die if I’m wrong I’ll apologize

This is pretty direct when compared to Deli's typical scum posts, also directed at Creature which is a good look for them imo

[VOTE: syn ] aubergine

I have a secret reason for liking this but what is your reason?

LB being wishy-washy is noted

Stuff like this imo is pretty obviously like, considering stuff in thread and actively solving

Should be alarming Deli voted me for weird to no reasons and every once in a while says shit "I still think you should die" whenever I question why she is wolfreading me. She might be one of the wolves afraid the wagon movements might move to a buddy (probably Alison).

Lmao ok

Creature spewing Deli is useful (also in other posts)

LB being wishy-washy is noted

Agree

Creature being pocket-y is noted

Again I think Deli's posts are just, idk how to describe, but way more smooth, less self conscious, make more sense, etc etc etc, than when I saw them as scum

[Esooa]

oh, the secret reason thing is pretty towny too

[Luckbox Inc]

Again I think Deli's posts are just, idk how to describe, but way more smooth, less self conscious, make more sense, etc etc etc, than when I saw them as scum

There's a confidence about their posting that's bothersome. But it's also been a minute since I've played with Deli as they've been modding more than playing on 2p2 lately. But Deli is also very good at tone and always has been. But I'll reread pretty soon.

[KZA]

[VOTE: Kami] aubergine

I'm just gonna sheep Alison and remind everyone her ISO exists and that her reads should be considered

[KZA]

I'm enjoying watching people waste time solving for a world that doesn't exist

[Luckbox Inc]

I'm also not at all convinced Creature is actually a wolf too so Deli pushing Creature doesn't mean too much

[KZA]

Esooa really thinks the solve is

KZA
Creature
Syn

How LHF can you be

[Esooa]

Esooa really thinks the solve is

KZA
Creature
Syn

How LHF can you be

ask the rand

[KZA]

Can we hammer so I never have to play mafia again

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Given up on me rescinding?

[Luckbox Inc]

This is sort of lol but this is probably around the spot in the day where I say that I'm actually seer and not Nanook, and that I peeked Nanook v last night-- which I get is lol.
Also lol is that my n0 is Orange/KZA
So......we can't kill KZA today and Nanook is just a villager faking-- which is fine-- and KZA handling it fine too.

[ejjinami]

…..oof

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Thats an interesting play but its also wrong

Your mistake is claiming kza green--if you're trying to provide cop cover/look like the real cop, saying I'm green checked is fine but you can't say kza is green cause then mafia know you're faking

Saying I'm green is meh but works fine enough if you're concerned people would push back on me if they believe you, so that part is fine. You didn't quite stick the landing tho

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I guess this could make you mafia but I don't see the ev in it

[Esooa]

luckbox already claimed a n0 on KZA day 1 is why

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@MissSparkles is replacing @Syn. Please do not discuss replacements.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

luckbox already claimed a n0 on KZA day 1 is why

Oh yeah I guess that does handicap them a bit

[ejjinami]

this is what I’d consider gamethrowing

I don’t know how stuff like this is handled on this forum but considering that this situation took place, I’m assuming it’s not seen as such.
I just want to say that if there wasn’t a green check on nanook, I would likely have been dead set on killing them.

That’s all I’m gonna say.

[ejjinami]

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

[MissSparkles]

What’s up?

[ejjinami]

Thats an interesting play but its also wrong

Your mistake is claiming kza green--if you're trying to provide cop cover/look like the real cop, saying I'm green checked is fine but you can't say kza is green cause then mafia know you're faking

Saying I'm green is meh but works fine enough if you're concerned people would push back on me if they believe you, so that part is fine. You didn't quite stick the landing tho

wait, wtf

[MissSparkles]

Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh I see the ev actually

Luckbox probably is mafia kek

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Thats an interesting play but its also wrong

Your mistake is claiming kza green--if you're trying to provide cop cover/look like the real cop, saying I'm green checked is fine but you can't say kza is green cause then mafia know you're faking

Saying I'm green is meh but works fine enough if you're concerned people would push back on me if they believe you, so that part is fine. You didn't quite stick the landing tho

wait, wtf

I'm not rescinding my claim lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo

I'm the cop i claimed red on kza

[MissSparkles]

I’m town so let’s hide those tinfoil hats

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo

I'm the cop i claimed red on kza

Theres a hammer so hold off on voting

[MissSparkles]

Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo

I'm the cop i claimed red on kza

Did u just claim right away? If so why?

[Luckbox Inc]

luckbox already claimed a n0 on KZA day 1 is why

Oh yeah I guess that does handicap them a bit

Yeah I give up there. Sigh..

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo

I'm the cop i claimed red on kza

Did u just claim right away? If so why?

Claimed in my first post d2 yeah

Cause I have a red lol

[MissSparkles]

So I rep in too two outed mafia, wish i was the hero mafia teal needed but i’m not so woooo

[MissSparkles]

Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo

I'm the cop i claimed red on kza

Did u just claim right away? If so why?

Claimed in my first post d2 yeah

Cause I have a red lol

Y not wait until they post snd then get reads from them to gelp deduce who their teammates are, feels like mishandling a red.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

So I rep in too two outed mafia, wish i was the hero mafia teal needed but i’m not so woooo

Luckbox might not be outed lets see where they go from here

[MissSparkles]

Or just outright mafia faking a red ngl

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo

I'm the cop i claimed red on kza

Did u just claim right away? If so why?

Claimed in my first post d2 yeah

Cause I have a red lol

Y not wait until they post snd then get reads from them to gelp deduce who their teammates are, feels like mishandling a red.

No I played this correctly

This is d2 not d1

[Luckbox Inc]

So I rep in too two outed mafia, wish i was the hero mafia teal needed but i’m not so woooo

Luckbox might not be outed lets see where they go from here

I was wondering if this was about me. Yeah I'm definitely not a wolf. I think Orange as my n0 was fine it just hasn't worked out well.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Or just outright mafia faking a red ngl

Thats a d3 play

[ejjinami]

handle this among yourselves, I’m going offline
luck is likely town even if he’s lying. There is absolutely no merit for mafia to do so
He was in a good position, sitting in everyone’s town cores. Giving up on that in order to protect red-checked scum would be just as gamethrowy as faking a red check and aiming for a lynch

his green claim on claimed scum would be stupid beyond reason then but honestly, w/e
this doesn’t make sense either way