AtLA post-game (mafia win)

[EnderWiggin]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

he didn't want to be investigated? why?

Would you?

Unless someone else in there was howling and I thought I could get a red check yes.

Weird

Do you not like being cleared?

[MacDougall]

Falcon pushes the investigation off Justin, whomst wanted it on him. Weirdness there.

Seanzie not wanting to be investigated but voting himself in the end is pretty weird.

Lomo not voting. Not weird.

[sig]

There’s no civ mindset world where you go after someone who is probably civ for messing something up it’s just the dumbest strategy ever.

If we wanna do that let’s also get rid of gullotine for meming, Justin for arguing, creature for not posting enough, the people who haven’t shown up and not even bother going after mafia.

For messing something up?

"Ah yes, I'm terribly sorry about missing the whole 6-hour event where I only stayed for the first hour and made no mention of my possible inactivity. Furthermore, I didn't even make a single message after Falcon had arrived somewhere in the middle of the process so I also apologize for not even checking for consensus and just dropping my vote on Falcon who could've been considered consensus but was never declared it"

like what

It’s just a dumb policy lynch reason if that’s the only thing you’re using and saying it was a mafia strategy.

If it was then they’re the dumbest team ever (no offense maybe )

[EnderWiggin]

Falcon pushes the investigation off Justin, whomst wanted it on him. Weirdness there.

Seanzie not wanting to be investigated but voting himself in the end is pretty weird.

Lomo not voting. Not weird.

Ax not wanting to be investigated, also weird.

[NotAnAxehole]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

he didn't want to be investigated? why?

Would you?

Unless someone else in there was howling and I thought I could get a red check yes.

Weird

Do you not like being cleared?

Really pointless.

[EnderWiggin]

Mac, thoughts on Falcon

[sig]

God father would definitely aim to get checked like no question in my mind that’s the logical play

[ButterscotchSundae]

Weird

I really don't understand a villager NOT wanting a cop check, barring a vital power role they haven't gotten to use yet. I love being checked. It means I get to die before I screw up the final three.

[MacDougall]

Falcon was being wagoned so solving him is actually the best thing y'all could have done. So LoMo appears to be the best of you all actually.

[NotAnAxehole]

So do we at least buy that falcon/Justin is not T/T? I'm trying to assess how far gone this game is

[MacDougall]

Ok is Axe inawordyes?

[MacDougall]

So do we at least buy that falcon/Justin is not T/T? I'm trying to assess how far gone this game is

what makes you say that?

[EnderWiggin]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[NotAnAxehole]

Weird

I really don't understand a villager NOT wanting a cop check, barring a vital power role they haven't gotten to use yet. I love being checked. It means I get to die before I screw up the final three.

I'm not concerned about town killing me, I am concerned about solving the rest of the game though. Only truly awful towns miss on me because I'm terrible at mafia.

[MartinGG99]

There’s no civ mindset world where you go after someone who is probably civ for messing something up it’s just the dumbest strategy ever.

If we wanna do that let’s also get rid of gullotine for meming, Justin for arguing, creature for not posting enough, the people who haven’t shown up and not even bother going after mafia.

For messing something up?

"Ah yes, I'm terribly sorry about missing the whole 6-hour event where I only stayed for the first hour and made no mention of my possible inactivity. Furthermore, I didn't even make a single message after Falcon had arrived somewhere in the middle of the process so I also apologize for not even checking for consensus and just dropping my vote on Falcon who could've been considered consensus but was never declared it"

like what

It’s just a dumb policy lynch reason if that’s the only thing you’re using and saying it was a mafia strategy.

If it was then they’re the dumbest team ever (no offense maybe )

m8 I don't do policy lynches

there's no policy for something like this

I couldn't even imagine the situation and circumstances before

[MacDougall]

Mac, thoughts on Falcon

Nothing interesting.

[MacDougall]

Martin does appear to be supreme omega town tho

[ButterscotchSundae]

I was thinking of finding my way to a Falcon vote...but I just saw that Luckbox is voting Creature. That's...concerning. To say the least.

[NotAnAxehole]

Martin does appear to be supreme omega town tho

Yee

[MacDougall]

I was thinking of finding my way to a Falcon vote...but I just saw that Luckbox is voting Creature. That's...concerning. To say the least.

why

[NotAnAxehole]

I was thinking of finding my way to a Falcon vote...but I just saw that Luckbox is voting Creature. That's...concerning. To say the least.

why

It's not

[Felicis]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

explaineth

err explain

No, explaineth is far superior.

Also thank you to folks who filled me in about VCs and vote formatting still not fully caught up on the events of the event, but at the moment from what I've read so far, my vote is probably going on lomo unless something changes by the time I reach the most recent post.

[EnderWiggin]

Martin does appear to be supreme omega town tho

Seconded

[ButterscotchSundae]

I was thinking of finding my way to a Falcon vote...but I just saw that Luckbox is voting Creature. That's...concerning. To say the least.

why

Because Luckbox has played with Creature a lot. Enough to know that Creatures is a very difficult player to read AND that everyone always wants to kill him. It's a CLASSIC LHF situation. Which Dustin (Luckbox) should know.

[ButterscotchSundae]

I was thinking of finding my way to a Falcon vote...but I just saw that Luckbox is voting Creature. That's...concerning. To say the least.

why

It's not

I beg your pardon? I've been playing mafia with Luckbox for something approaching a decade. Who are you to tell me what to think of his vote?

[NotAnAxehole]

I was thinking of finding my way to a Falcon vote...but I just saw that Luckbox is voting Creature. That's...concerning. To say the least.

why

It's not

I beg your pardon? I've been playing mafia with Luckbox for something approaching a decade. Who are you to tell me what to think of his vote?

Too bad you haven't figured him out in the past decade?

[EnderWiggin]

I was thinking of finding my way to a Falcon vote...but I just saw that Luckbox is voting Creature. That's...concerning. To say the least.

why

Because Luckbox has played with Creature a lot. Enough to know that Creatures is a very difficult player to read AND that everyone always wants to kill him. It's a CLASSIC LHF situation. Which Dustin (Luckbox) should know.

Creature's D1 seems to be NAI slank for the most part. He did similar last game and was town.

If Luck has played with him a lot I'd maybe think my original w!luckbox was legit.

[ButterscotchSundae]

I was thinking of finding my way to a Falcon vote...but I just saw that Luckbox is voting Creature. That's...concerning. To say the least.

why

It's not

I beg your pardon? I've been playing mafia with Luckbox for something approaching a decade. Who are you to tell me what to think of his vote?

Too bad you haven't figured him out in the past decade?

I begin to comprehend why you require a disclaimer as your username.

[falcon45ca]

Falcon got paranoid over possible investigative immunity as being a reason to volunteer.

That sounds like a reason to be incredibly suspicious of Falcon.
In what world would a wolf volunteer to be cop-checked knowing that they are not-checkable? All that would do is focus everyone's attention on them.

yes this

You two have never heard of Mafia Godfather role? Investigations come back green on them?

[Felicis]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Would also like to know this since haven't heard thaaaaat much from Seanzie so far, but his few earlier posts kinda pinged me. I'd like to not go into tunnel mode tho bc then I miss shit, so any info you can share about how he responded and how that choice went down would be helpful.

[Seanzie]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

Eh, this isn't really telling the whole story though. Checking me was going to be a waste for reasons I mentioned in the chat and would rather not repeat here. Once it was clear that consensus was only going to be formed on me, I voted myself because that would be better than no check.

[ButterscotchSundae]

Voting Falcon for now. Going to do some reading. I urge everyone to consider a Luckbox wagon.

[falcon45ca]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

Eh, this isn't really telling the whole story though. Checking me was going to be a waste for reasons I mentioned in the chat and would rather not repeat here. Once it was clear that consensus was only going to be formed on me, I voted myself because that would be better than no check.

I didn't elaborate cuz I thought it better coming from you

[Luckbox Inc]

In a brand new site with you in the game? I'd return a wolf pm to sender.

ok

[ButterscotchSundae]

Falcon got paranoid over possible investigative immunity as being a reason to volunteer.

That sounds like a reason to be incredibly suspicious of Falcon.
In what world would a wolf volunteer to be cop-checked knowing that they are not-checkable? All that would do is focus everyone's attention on them.

yes this

You two have never heard of Mafia Godfather role? Investigations come back green on them?

Yes, but really, if it's between a villager player asking to be checked, vs the wolf team putting one of their (probable?) best roles in an undisclosed event, I'm banking on that player being a villager more often than not. So you argued against the consensus, against the player volunteering to be checked, and ended up with no check.

[Luckbox Inc]

Voting Falcon for now. Going to do some reading. I urge everyone to consider a Luckbox wagon.

oh wow funny.
Instead of posting "ok" to your previous post, I had another response lined up...which was me saying that I think you're a wolf.
Fun times. I would of course be winning in a t-dome here.

[Seanzie]

Falcon got paranoid over possible investigative immunity as being a reason to volunteer.

That sounds like a reason to be incredibly suspicious of Falcon.
In what world would a wolf volunteer to be cop-checked knowing that they are not-checkable? All that would do is focus everyone's attention on them.

yes this

You two have never heard of Mafia Godfather role? Investigations come back green on them?

I don't think it was sus of Falcon, and I'm having a hard time seeing how Mac and Butterscotch do. Especially since Falcon was one of the top running possible targets, I don't see scum!Falcon risking his own neck just to create possible GF suspicion.

[Luckbox Inc]

This is where I tell people that I've been playing ww with Butters longer than some of them have been alive (apparently) and that I read her super well.
Tone is off.

[EnderWiggin]

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Actually thinking on it I'd probably be same as Falc.

[NotAnAxehole]

This is where I tell people that I've been playing ww with Butters longer than some of them have been alive (apparently) and that I read her super well.
Tone is off.

I mean, she's mafia, but all of town has lost their minds, so... Welp

[falcon45ca]

So do we at least buy that falcon/Justin is not T/T? I'm trying to assess how far gone this game is

What? It's D1, this is a weirdly defeatist attitude for this stage of the game.


[VOTE: NotAnAxe] aubergine

[Seanzie]

Falcon got paranoid over possible investigative immunity as being a reason to volunteer.

That sounds like a reason to be incredibly suspicious of Falcon.
In what world would a wolf volunteer to be cop-checked knowing that they are not-checkable? All that would do is focus everyone's attention on them.

yes this

You two have never heard of Mafia Godfather role? Investigations come back green on them?

Yes, but really, if it's between a villager player asking to be checked, vs the wolf team putting one of their (probable?) best roles in an undisclosed event, I'm banking on that player being a villager more often than not. So you argued against the consensus, against the player volunteering to be checked, and ended up with no check.

This really isn't how it happened. The "consensus" on Justin at that point was only like 3 people who were all in the thread at once. Falcon then made a good point, and consensus formed around me, with me being the only dissenting voice. Falcon didn't really "break" from consensus to do that, it was more like we were still deciding who to vote for.

[Felicis]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

he didn't want to be investigated? why?

Would you?

Unless someone else in there was howling and I thought I could get a red check yes.

Weird

Why is this weird?

[NotAnAxehole]

Falcon got paranoid over possible investigative immunity as being a reason to volunteer.

That sounds like a reason to be incredibly suspicious of Falcon.
In what world would a wolf volunteer to be cop-checked knowing that they are not-checkable? All that would do is focus everyone's attention on them.

yes this

You two have never heard of Mafia Godfather role? Investigations come back green on them?

I don't think it was sus of Falcon, and I'm having a hard time seeing how Mac and Butterscotch do. Especially since Falcon was one of the top running possible targets, I don't see scum!Falcon risking his own neck just to create possible GF suspicion.

You're probably town, what are you looking to do today?

[DaughterOfOmega]

Sorry I had slept for a bit

[Luckbox Inc]

So do we at least buy that falcon/Justin is not T/T? I'm trying to assess how far gone this game is

What? It's D1, this is a weirdly defeatist attitude for this stage of the game.


[VOTE: NotAnAxe] aubergine

doesn't seem wolfy to me. A little weird but not wolfy. Sort of villagery even.

[Guillotine]

how did you guys arrive at seanzie being the consensus if he was super active? how did he respond to the suggestions? were you expecting seanzie to be a red or green?

Sean didn't want to be investigated, but voted with us on himself.

Eh, this isn't really telling the whole story though. Checking me was going to be a waste for reasons I mentioned in the chat and would rather not repeat here. Once it was clear that consensus was only going to be formed on me, I voted myself because that would be better than no check.

[MacDougall]

Falcon got paranoid over possible investigative immunity as being a reason to volunteer.

That sounds like a reason to be incredibly suspicious of Falcon.
In what world would a wolf volunteer to be cop-checked knowing that they are not-checkable? All that would do is focus everyone's attention on them.

yes this

You two have never heard of Mafia Godfather role? Investigations come back green on them?

I don't think it was sus of Falcon, and I'm having a hard time seeing how Mac and Butterscotch do. Especially since Falcon was one of the top running possible targets, I don't see scum!Falcon risking his own neck just to create possible GF suspicion.

meh i wasn't in there so you've got better optics than me

[Seanzie]

Falcon got paranoid over possible investigative immunity as being a reason to volunteer.

That sounds like a reason to be incredibly suspicious of Falcon.
In what world would a wolf volunteer to be cop-checked knowing that they are not-checkable? All that would do is focus everyone's attention on them.

yes this

You two have never heard of Mafia Godfather role? Investigations come back green on them?

I don't think it was sus of Falcon, and I'm having a hard time seeing how Mac and Butterscotch do. Especially since Falcon was one of the top running possible targets, I don't see scum!Falcon risking his own neck just to create possible GF suspicion.

You're probably town, what are you looking to do today?

Get a handle on the game since I've only read like the first 5 pages, and then the most recent 3-4. I did carefully read through the 5 other stormers. Falcon was IMO the most suspicious in terms of ISOs, but his play in the event gives me pause.

[falcon45ca]

Falcon got paranoid over possible investigative immunity as being a reason to volunteer.

That sounds like a reason to be incredibly suspicious of Falcon.
In what world would a wolf volunteer to be cop-checked knowing that they are not-checkable? All that would do is focus everyone's attention on them.

yes this

You two have never heard of Mafia Godfather role? Investigations come back green on them?

Yes, but really, if it's between a villager player asking to be checked, vs the wolf team putting one of their (probable?) best roles in an undisclosed event, I'm banking on that player being a villager more often than not. So you argued against the consensus, against the player volunteering to be checked, and ended up with no check.

This really isn't how it happened. The "consensus" on Justin at that point was only like 3 people who were all in the thread at once. Falcon then made a good point, and consensus formed around me, with me being the only dissenting voice. Falcon didn't really "break" from consensus to do that, it was more like we were still deciding who to vote for.

That's how I remember it