AtLA post-game (mafia win)

[NotAnAxehole]

Eh. Lost monkey's ISO is mostly empty reads. Really dislike their treatment of Falcon, calling him "scummy but can play bad as town" and "scum or butthurt." It feels like they have TMI on the slot because these are really weird, polarized statements to make as town. Also, how can you know someone's potentially "playing bad" as town when it's day 1? That's the biggest TMI point in the entire ISO.

The good thing is that lost monkey has actual alignment reads (even if they are bad); I remember their wolf ISO from our last game together barely having even that. But the reads themselves aren't good at all, and the treatment of Falcon should realistically spew him town if Lost Monkey is mafia.

I still think Falcon is the wolfier of the two, but maybe flipping lost monkey first is the play, considering Falcon's spewed town if Lost Monkey is mafia and Lost Monkey isn't spewed town if Falcon is mafia. Would like people's input on this.

In general, what even happened in that event? This makes two ISOs I've read that talk about the event and I'm still confused what exactly happened in there. Seanzie was in that as well iirc.

Mac spewed me town when he tried to push me for my role in the storm chat

[Guillotine]

So really, yesterday is on you guys, not me.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

You are either scum or a game thrower, i dont want you in this game.

Im parking on you, see you guys the next day.

How is it game throwing to force town to vote on your read? It was incorrect and yeah, people don't like fake checks, but it isn't game throwing.

I fucked up, but yeah, don't tell me you thought Dana was doing anything other than lolcating... That's what everyone except for the scum team would have perceived because she wasn't being towny. So no I don't see how that flipping town makes me an automatic target.

I made a play, it didn't work. Get over it and let's get scum today.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Effective immediately @BoKnows has replaced @lost monkey. Poll will not be reset, votes for lomo will be counted as voting for bo.

[Guillotine]

TBH, if you guys just were better at forming wagons, I wouldn't have had to claim a red check. Both Sig and Dana could have defended themselves and didn't Ender defended himself, and I didn't pursue him further once I found him to be town. It's just my style to push with unrelenting pressure until / unless the person shows themselves to be OBVIOUS town, if they don't, then yeet them and shrug.

[BoKnows]

Here we are.

[BoKnows]

Anyone want to give me a TLDR?

[BoKnows]

Wow we got a Leafs fan playing @falcon45ca what is this?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

There are also about 10 hours left to participate in the event!

[falcon45ca]

Wow we got a Leafs fan playing @falcon45ca what is this?

BK!


I'm as shocked as you are, but this is the world we live in now.





PS, are you scum?

[NotAnAxehole]

TBH, if you guys just were better at forming wagons, I wouldn't have had to claim a red check. Both Sig and Dana could have defended themselves and didn't Ender defended himself, and I didn't pursue him further once I found him to be town. It's just my style to push with unrelenting pressure until / unless the person shows themselves to be OBVIOUS town, if they don't, then yeet them and shrug.

Cry me a river

[BoKnows]

Wow we got a Leafs fan playing @falcon45ca what is this?

BK!


I'm as shocked as you are, but this is the world we live in now.





PS, are you scum?

It is a scary world out there.

Unfortunately I'm not scum...

[Seanzie]

How is Axe still alive?

[NotAnAxehole]

How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

[NotAnAxehole]

Also,

@Guillotine

I’m making this one post out of my gambit.

I belong to a very rare breed of brutally honest people. Bold, direct, very hardheaded and I’m volatile. I got a high temperament and i can be very abrasive when it comes to defend my views!

Something this generation of instant gratification, entitled, selfish, unsympathetic little pricks loathe. Now im not saying that you belong to that generation or that you are that kind of people, but im an old man, with little patience for bullshit and care about your feelings!
Which has led me to big fights with some people here and i dont want that! I came here to have fun not to let anyone provoke me into getting in an argument with anybody because then, i am the motherfucking unpleasant player to play with.

That’s why im playing with gambits from this game forward and in every game i play here at The Syndicate, where i can have fun, where i dont have to post and hurt your delicate feelings and where i dont get high blood pressure arguing with you.

So if you dont like how im playing now then you may as well yeet me, because it is not gonna change, of course without forgetting to say.

Screw your policy $&@&? reasons Scum!

[NotAnAxehole]

Also,

@Guillotine

I’m making this one post out of my gambit.

I belong to a very rare breed of brutally honest people. Bold, direct, very hardheaded and I’m volatile. I got a high temperament and i can be very abrasive when it comes to defend my views!

Something this generation of instant gratification, entitled, selfish, unsympathetic little pricks loathe. Now im not saying that you belong to that generation or that you are that kind of people, but im an old man, with little patience for bullshit and care about your feelings!
Which has led me to big fights with some people here and i dont want that! I came here to have fun not to let anyone provoke me into getting in an argument with anybody because then, i am the motherfucking unpleasant player to play with.

That’s why im playing with gambits from this game forward and in every game i play here at The Syndicate, where i can have fun, where i dont have to post and hurt your delicate feelings and where i dont get high blood pressure arguing with you.

So if you dont like how im playing now then you may as well yeet me, because it is not gonna change, of course without forgetting to say.

Screw your policy $&@&? reasons Scum!

[Seanzie]

How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

[NotAnAxehole]

How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

[NotAnAxehole]

How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

[Seanzie]

How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

[NotAnAxehole]

How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

If you kill me today, you only demonstrate that what you're viewing as scummy and towny in this game is just as incorrect as what I have so far. Own it, and wear it proudly like the dice-throwing monkey that you are.

[NotAnAxehole]

But yeah, let's be real @Seanzie if you're town, I'm never dying today because mafia have no reason to vote me given that the town has declared that they won't work with me after what I pulled yesterday. It's unlikely that you're mafia because why would you care if I died? So you and Guillotine are just on a fools errand right now.

[Grogu]

Axe can get a free day, he’s weird but likely just town. The story is so bad that it cannot come from a wolf lol

Vote: Grogu
Obv wolf

If I’m a wolf I just hope you are in my team and will carry me again. Add me to chat

[Seanzie]

How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

If you kill me today, you only demonstrate that what you're viewing as scummy and towny in this game is just as incorrect as what I have so far. Own it, and wear it proudly like the dice-throwing monkey that you are.

No, don't even try "you'd be just as scummy as I am if you kill me". That is BS. You faked a red and didn't rescind. There is no reason for a townie to do that. If you are town here, your hero-check is gamethrowing and town deserves to lose, and you would deserve all the credit for that loss. More likely though you're just scum. Considering if we yeet you today, the deaths will be something like 7 town deaths to 2 scum deaths, I'd say y'all can afford to trade 1-1 here, especially if you have a low-utility role and it keeps higher utility roles alive.

This man is scum, kill them.

[Grogu]

Grogu's ISO is pretty villagery in the way they're off in their own world with sunshine and rainbows.

I am possibly getting pocketed by this, but I really do think it's towny.

Zero worries from dababy.
I am town. Thanks for the observation but the rainbows have faded after the unfortunate flip of Dana. I thought the game was going to be very easy after the red check.

Talk to me about axe. I think he’s town here and I actually do not like guillo reaction as much.

[Grogu]

Eh. Lost monkey's ISO is mostly empty reads. Really dislike their treatment of Falcon, calling him "scummy but can play bad as town" and "scum or butthurt." It feels like they have TMI on the slot because these are really weird, polarized statements to make as town. Also, how can you know someone's potentially "playing bad" as town when it's day 1? That's the biggest TMI point in the entire ISO.

The good thing is that lost monkey has actual alignment reads (even if they are bad); I remember their wolf ISO from our last game together barely having even that. But the reads themselves aren't good at all, and the treatment of Falcon should realistically spew him town if Lost Monkey is mafia.

I still think Falcon is the wolfier of the two, but maybe flipping lost monkey first is the play, considering Falcon's spewed town if Lost Monkey is mafia and Lost Monkey isn't spewed town if Falcon is mafia. Would like people's input on this.

In general, what even happened in that event? This makes two ISOs I've read that talk about the event and I'm still confused what exactly happened in there. Seanzie was in that as well iirc.

Agree. I like monkey and falcon likely wolf.

[Grogu]

Eh. Lost monkey's ISO is mostly empty reads. Really dislike their treatment of Falcon, calling him "scummy but can play bad as town" and "scum or butthurt." It feels like they have TMI on the slot because these are really weird, polarized statements to make as town. Also, how can you know someone's potentially "playing bad" as town when it's day 1? That's the biggest TMI point in the entire ISO.

The good thing is that lost monkey has actual alignment reads (even if they are bad); I remember their wolf ISO from our last game together barely having even that. But the reads themselves aren't good at all, and the treatment of Falcon should realistically spew him town if Lost Monkey is mafia.

I still think Falcon is the wolfier of the two, but maybe flipping lost monkey first is the play, considering Falcon's spewed town if Lost Monkey is mafia and Lost Monkey isn't spewed town if Falcon is mafia. Would like people's input on this.

In general, what even happened in that event? This makes two ISOs I've read that talk about the event and I'm still confused what exactly happened in there. Seanzie was in that as well iirc.

Mac spewed me town when he tried to push me for my role in the storm chat

This happened?

[NotAnAxehole]

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

If you kill me today, you only demonstrate that what you're viewing as scummy and towny in this game is just as incorrect as what I have so far. Own it, and wear it proudly like the dice-throwing monkey that you are.

No, don't even try "you'd be just as scummy as I am if you kill me". That is BS. You faked a red and didn't rescind. There is no reason for a townie to do that. If you are town here, your hero-check is gamethrowing and town deserves to lose, and you would deserve all the credit for that loss. More likely though you're just scum. Considering if we yeet you today, the deaths will be something like 7 town deaths to 2 scum deaths, I'd say y'all can afford to trade 1-1 here, especially if you have a low-utility role and it keeps higher utility roles alive.

This man is scum, kill them.

Sounds like policy kill, if you do that, you deserve to lose.

Fake red is a hero-play, yes. But by definition I think that makes it not gamethrowing, it's just that I took it upon myself to have sole input over the kill which is actually +EV because I'm town. Now given that (neither of us?) actually know how many mafia are in the game, to say it's gamethrowing or to even try to make a guess at the accuracy required to shoot correctly yesterday is impossible.

So yeah, unvote and try to gather yourself so that you can actually play the game.

[MartinGG99]

The only thing that's keeping me from voting Axe here is bc I read Dana's response to Axe as scummy. Which is a plausible valid reason for pushing the fake red. But I don't get why Axe is blaming us for it like an axehole about it.

We didn't know that Dana on D2 was like that partially due to having direct incentive to die as town. Those kinds of roles are generally rare from what I've seen. Dana was encouraging us to arrive at the conclusion that she should die, regardless if Axe was wrong.

[NotAnAxehole]

Eh. Lost monkey's ISO is mostly empty reads. Really dislike their treatment of Falcon, calling him "scummy but can play bad as town" and "scum or butthurt." It feels like they have TMI on the slot because these are really weird, polarized statements to make as town. Also, how can you know someone's potentially "playing bad" as town when it's day 1? That's the biggest TMI point in the entire ISO.

The good thing is that lost monkey has actual alignment reads (even if they are bad); I remember their wolf ISO from our last game together barely having even that. But the reads themselves aren't good at all, and the treatment of Falcon should realistically spew him town if Lost Monkey is mafia.

I still think Falcon is the wolfier of the two, but maybe flipping lost monkey first is the play, considering Falcon's spewed town if Lost Monkey is mafia and Lost Monkey isn't spewed town if Falcon is mafia. Would like people's input on this.

In general, what even happened in that event? This makes two ISOs I've read that talk about the event and I'm still confused what exactly happened in there. Seanzie was in that as well iirc.

Mac spewed me town when he tried to push me for my role in the storm chat

This happened?

Mac was not in the storm chat

[Grogu]

free town read to anyone who got a bison last night

Why do you send bisons? Can you explain plz

I send them b/c I care
It's like fruit vendor but I'm not target restricted (can send to the same person repeatedly if I want to) and it's a picture of appa (of my choosing, with no game text) instead of fruit

That's pretty slick. Do you choose who it goes to, or just random town?

I get to choose where it goes

Well, then shouldn't you know who got the bison?

Huh good point. Unless HK is trying to see if anyone fakes receiving a bison by asking who got it? Iunno

Felicia good reads. Like very good reads, I like them but I’m kinda suspect you have such a good grasp of the game after just waking up. I haven’t seen you so involved.
Good for now but the baby is watching.

[NotAnAxehole]

But I don't get why Axe is blaming us for it like an axehole about it.

It was just in the spirit of being an entitled prick. But yeah, I view the red check yesterday as a missed vig shot. I'm not upset about it, but it's definitely not your guys fault. I understand why people would be upset, but to be honest, I view mafia as a single-player game.

[Seanzie]

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

If you kill me today, you only demonstrate that what you're viewing as scummy and towny in this game is just as incorrect as what I have so far. Own it, and wear it proudly like the dice-throwing monkey that you are.

No, don't even try "you'd be just as scummy as I am if you kill me". That is BS. You faked a red and didn't rescind. There is no reason for a townie to do that. If you are town here, your hero-check is gamethrowing and town deserves to lose, and you would deserve all the credit for that loss. More likely though you're just scum. Considering if we yeet you today, the deaths will be something like 7 town deaths to 2 scum deaths, I'd say y'all can afford to trade 1-1 here, especially if you have a low-utility role and it keeps higher utility roles alive.

This man is scum, kill them.

Sounds like policy kill, if you do that, you deserve to lose.

Fake red is a hero-play, yes. But by definition I think that makes it not gamethrowing, it's just that I took it upon myself to have sole input over the kill which is actually +EV because I'm town. Now given that (neither of us?) actually know how many mafia are in the game, to say it's gamethrowing or to even try to make a guess at the accuracy required to shoot correctly yesterday is impossible.

So yeah, unvote and try to gather yourself so that you can actually play the game.

No, this is garbage. Hero-play loses games plain and simple. If you are town, what you did is massively -EV. The WHOLE point of the game of mafia is that COLLECTIVELY we can root out scum. The WHOLE point of the damn game is it is an example of the village guessing the weight of the bull.

YOU taking it on yourself to decide the elim is majorly -EV for town. You should be killed. It isn't policy, it is that you decided to go 1-1, and now you're trying to go 1-0, and that is BS. The only way it is wrong to chop you here is if you're just a crap player.

[Grogu]

Mac wasn't in the storm chat.

Falcon lied? Omg lol

[MartinGG99]

I'm also half-sure that someone town other than me will resolves Axehole in some way over-night.

[Vulgard]

Dana's reaction was pretty bad, but then Axehole could've just rescinded, we could've played the game yesterday, and Dana could've been yeeted anyway. Her flip wouldn't change but at least there wouldn't be a quickhammer.

I thought about this and I think it was a wolf making a suicide play (don't think 3p anymore) and should 100% die because, well, refer to my earlier post about the matter. I don't think he treated the situation as a town fake redcheck, either; even if he thought Dana was mafia, he would've rescinded to give time for discussion, and pushed her on her reaction, because the reaction wasn't great. He didn't do any of that and just wanted her to get quickhammered, which she was. This is not villagery.

I still wasn't given a good reason why Martin's mafia, so I think he's town. Guillo's reaction was basically my reaction, so I didn't need to add my two cents to it, and I think it came from a villager.

Going back to Mac ISO.

[Seanzie]

But I don't get why Axe is blaming us for it like an axehole about it.

It was just in the spirit of being an entitled prick. But yeah, I view the red check yesterday as a missed vig shot. I'm not upset about it, but it's definitely not your guys fault. I understand why people would be upset, but to be honest, I view mafia as a single-player game.

No! It is not a missed vig shot. Vig shots don't take away the TK. If you're town, you REALLY need to rethink your play.

Kill this man.

[NotAnAxehole]

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

If you kill me today, you only demonstrate that what you're viewing as scummy and towny in this game is just as incorrect as what I have so far. Own it, and wear it proudly like the dice-throwing monkey that you are.

No, don't even try "you'd be just as scummy as I am if you kill me". That is BS. You faked a red and didn't rescind. There is no reason for a townie to do that. If you are town here, your hero-check is gamethrowing and town deserves to lose, and you would deserve all the credit for that loss. More likely though you're just scum. Considering if we yeet you today, the deaths will be something like 7 town deaths to 2 scum deaths, I'd say y'all can afford to trade 1-1 here, especially if you have a low-utility role and it keeps higher utility roles alive.

This man is scum, kill them.

Sounds like policy kill, if you do that, you deserve to lose.

Fake red is a hero-play, yes. But by definition I think that makes it not gamethrowing, it's just that I took it upon myself to have sole input over the kill which is actually +EV because I'm town. Now given that (neither of us?) actually know how many mafia are in the game, to say it's gamethrowing or to even try to make a guess at the accuracy required to shoot correctly yesterday is impossible.

So yeah, unvote and try to gather yourself so that you can actually play the game.

No, this is garbage. Hero-play loses games plain and simple. If you are town, what you did is massively -EV. The WHOLE point of the game of mafia is that COLLECTIVELY we can root out scum. The WHOLE point of the damn game is it is an example of the village guessing the weight of the bull.

YOU taking it on yourself to decide the elim is majorly -EV for town. You should be killed. It isn't policy, it is that you decided to go 1-1, and now you're trying to go 1-0, and that is BS. The only way it is wrong to chop you here is if you're just a crap player.

No, it's your reaction that's -EV.

You might say that your reaction is inevitable, but it isn't... You don't have to be this way. Martin brings up a good point though, Dana let herself die, so you probably shouldn't even be sad about it at all.

[Grogu]

Here we are.

Booooooooooooooo
Welcome to the game my friend. We need help

[Seanzie]

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

If you kill me today, you only demonstrate that what you're viewing as scummy and towny in this game is just as incorrect as what I have so far. Own it, and wear it proudly like the dice-throwing monkey that you are.

No, don't even try "you'd be just as scummy as I am if you kill me". That is BS. You faked a red and didn't rescind. There is no reason for a townie to do that. If you are town here, your hero-check is gamethrowing and town deserves to lose, and you would deserve all the credit for that loss. More likely though you're just scum. Considering if we yeet you today, the deaths will be something like 7 town deaths to 2 scum deaths, I'd say y'all can afford to trade 1-1 here, especially if you have a low-utility role and it keeps higher utility roles alive.

This man is scum, kill them.

Sounds like policy kill, if you do that, you deserve to lose.

Fake red is a hero-play, yes. But by definition I think that makes it not gamethrowing, it's just that I took it upon myself to have sole input over the kill which is actually +EV because I'm town. Now given that (neither of us?) actually know how many mafia are in the game, to say it's gamethrowing or to even try to make a guess at the accuracy required to shoot correctly yesterday is impossible.

So yeah, unvote and try to gather yourself so that you can actually play the game.

No, this is garbage. Hero-play loses games plain and simple. If you are town, what you did is massively -EV. The WHOLE point of the game of mafia is that COLLECTIVELY we can root out scum. The WHOLE point of the damn game is it is an example of the village guessing the weight of the bull.

YOU taking it on yourself to decide the elim is majorly -EV for town. You should be killed. It isn't policy, it is that you decided to go 1-1, and now you're trying to go 1-0, and that is BS. The only way it is wrong to chop you here is if you're just a crap player.

No, it's your reaction that's -EV.

You might say that your reaction is inevitable, but it isn't... You don't have to be this way. Martin brings up a good point though, Dana let herself die, so you probably shouldn't even be sad about it at all.

Wtf? you kill a townie and then try to blame them and everyone other than you?

Sorry, I'm done. This shit just happened to me in another game, and I'm not going to sit here and let people do this shit. It is garbage.

Kill this man, I'm out.

[NotAnAxehole]

But I don't get why Axe is blaming us for it like an axehole about it.

It was just in the spirit of being an entitled prick. But yeah, I view the red check yesterday as a missed vig shot. I'm not upset about it, but it's definitely not your guys fault. I understand why people would be upset, but to be honest, I view mafia as a single-player game.

No! It is not a missed vig shot. Vig shots don't take away the TK. If you're town, you REALLY need to rethink your play.

Kill this man.

What are you even saying? Town killed Dana yesterday, I didn't remove our ability to kill someone, merely directed it.

[NotAnAxehole]

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

If you kill me today, you only demonstrate that what you're viewing as scummy and towny in this game is just as incorrect as what I have so far. Own it, and wear it proudly like the dice-throwing monkey that you are.

No, don't even try "you'd be just as scummy as I am if you kill me". That is BS. You faked a red and didn't rescind. There is no reason for a townie to do that. If you are town here, your hero-check is gamethrowing and town deserves to lose, and you would deserve all the credit for that loss. More likely though you're just scum. Considering if we yeet you today, the deaths will be something like 7 town deaths to 2 scum deaths, I'd say y'all can afford to trade 1-1 here, especially if you have a low-utility role and it keeps higher utility roles alive.

This man is scum, kill them.

Sounds like policy kill, if you do that, you deserve to lose.

Fake red is a hero-play, yes. But by definition I think that makes it not gamethrowing, it's just that I took it upon myself to have sole input over the kill which is actually +EV because I'm town. Now given that (neither of us?) actually know how many mafia are in the game, to say it's gamethrowing or to even try to make a guess at the accuracy required to shoot correctly yesterday is impossible.

So yeah, unvote and try to gather yourself so that you can actually play the game.

No, this is garbage. Hero-play loses games plain and simple. If you are town, what you did is massively -EV. The WHOLE point of the game of mafia is that COLLECTIVELY we can root out scum. The WHOLE point of the damn game is it is an example of the village guessing the weight of the bull.

YOU taking it on yourself to decide the elim is majorly -EV for town. You should be killed. It isn't policy, it is that you decided to go 1-1, and now you're trying to go 1-0, and that is BS. The only way it is wrong to chop you here is if you're just a crap player.

No, it's your reaction that's -EV.

You might say that your reaction is inevitable, but it isn't... You don't have to be this way. Martin brings up a good point though, Dana let herself die, so you probably shouldn't even be sad about it at all.

Wtf? you kill a townie and then try to blame them and everyone other than you?

Sorry, I'm done. This shit just happened to me in another game, and I'm not going to sit here and let people do this shit. It is garbage.

Kill this man, I'm out.

As I told Martin, blaming everyone was a joke because I wanted to be an entitled prick for @Guillotine

[Grogu]

How is Axe still alive?

Because I'm obviously town - so most town probably acknowledge killing me is bad, and Scum would prefer not to kill me due to my tendency to create chaos.

Nah, town don't fake reds without rescinding.

Kill this man.

I thought of rescinding.

I mean, to be fair, the thought crossed my mind, but I didn't actually ponder on it that much. Dana deserved to die for not being towny. I'm towny, thus I don't think I deserve death.

No, you aren't. Killing a townie is not towny. Kill this man.

Sean please be quiet. We are not going to listen to you, you are much more scummy than axe. Relax

[Guillotine]

Grogu's ISO is pretty villagery in the way they're off in their own world with sunshine and rainbows.

I am possibly getting pocketed by this, but I really do think it's towny.

Zero worries from dababy.
I am town. Thanks for the observation but the rainbows have faded after the unfortunate flip of Dana. I thought the game was going to be very easy after the red check.

Talk to me about axe. I think he’s town here and I actually do not like guillo reaction as much.

[NotAnAxehole]

Anyway, I'm sure Seanzie will get over it at some point. Someone who isn't me should go back and look at everyone's posturing around the red check now that we all know that it's fake. I think there's a lot to be learned there (which is also why I think HK is scum), but I have to refrain from saying things like that because a few people are really angry right now.

[MartinGG99]

[VOTE: Grogu] aubergine

I'm not interested in trying to lynch thread-health again in the next few hours.

We all know what happened. It was a fake red apparently. All there is to do is to decide upon it and not fuss about it further. Someone may even night-kill him for all we know.

[Grogu]

Eh. Lost monkey's ISO is mostly empty reads. Really dislike their treatment of Falcon, calling him "scummy but can play bad as town" and "scum or butthurt." It feels like they have TMI on the slot because these are really weird, polarized statements to make as town. Also, how can you know someone's potentially "playing bad" as town when it's day 1? That's the biggest TMI point in the entire ISO.

The good thing is that lost monkey has actual alignment reads (even if they are bad); I remember their wolf ISO from our last game together barely having even that. But the reads themselves aren't good at all, and the treatment of Falcon should realistically spew him town if Lost Monkey is mafia.

I still think Falcon is the wolfier of the two, but maybe flipping lost monkey first is the play, considering Falcon's spewed town if Lost Monkey is mafia and Lost Monkey isn't spewed town if Falcon is mafia. Would like people's input on this.

In general, what even happened in that event? This makes two ISOs I've read that talk about the event and I'm still confused what exactly happened in there. Seanzie was in that as well iirc.

Mac spewed me town when he tried to push me for my role in the storm chat

This happened?

Mac was not in the storm chat

Why would falcon lied about this? Weird

[NotAnAxehole]

Eh. Lost monkey's ISO is mostly empty reads. Really dislike their treatment of Falcon, calling him "scummy but can play bad as town" and "scum or butthurt." It feels like they have TMI on the slot because these are really weird, polarized statements to make as town. Also, how can you know someone's potentially "playing bad" as town when it's day 1? That's the biggest TMI point in the entire ISO.

The good thing is that lost monkey has actual alignment reads (even if they are bad); I remember their wolf ISO from our last game together barely having even that. But the reads themselves aren't good at all, and the treatment of Falcon should realistically spew him town if Lost Monkey is mafia.

I still think Falcon is the wolfier of the two, but maybe flipping lost monkey first is the play, considering Falcon's spewed town if Lost Monkey is mafia and Lost Monkey isn't spewed town if Falcon is mafia. Would like people's input on this.

In general, what even happened in that event? This makes two ISOs I've read that talk about the event and I'm still confused what exactly happened in there. Seanzie was in that as well iirc.

Mac spewed me town when he tried to push me for my role in the storm chat

This happened?

Mac was not in the storm chat

Why would falcon lied about this? Weird

That is the question that I had when I initially posted that Mac wasn't in the storm chat.

[MartinGG99]

Grogu part of me feels like you're diving for derp-clears here which you've done in the past as scum

[Grogu]

But I don't get why Axe is blaming us for it like an axehole about it.

It was just in the spirit of being an entitled prick. But yeah, I view the red check yesterday as a missed vig shot. I'm not upset about it, but it's definitely not your guys fault. I understand why people would be upset, but to be honest, I view mafia as a single-player game.

You remind me of someone. Where did you play before this? Lol

[NotAnAxehole]

Grogu's ISO is pretty villagery in the way they're off in their own world with sunshine and rainbows.

I am possibly getting pocketed by this, but I really do think it's towny.

Zero worries from dababy.
I am town. Thanks for the observation but the rainbows have faded after the unfortunate flip of Dana. I thought the game was going to be very easy after the red check.

Talk to me about axe. I think he’s town here and I actually do not like guillo reaction as much.

Would it help you focus if I just stopped posting for a bit?