basic mafia [END]

[NotAnAxehole]

Esooa seems fine thus far, and GTH I'm guessing town there. I could be wrong, this isn't a super developed reads list, more to sort my thoughts than anything. That being said, I feel feel about where Esooa is for now.

I don't think Finger's one post that you've pushed hard is as wolfy as you are trying to make it out to be. With that post aside, they've been fine. I also feel fine about Falcon.

Let's pretend that I'm already dead, my role is town, and Alison is killed at night: who would you want to kill tomorrow?

I mean, if you get TK'd and flip town, idk why wolves would kill Alison...

My list is not comprised of many associative reads, so it would still more-or-less stand. I'd probably take a closer look at DoO if Alison died, and I'd hope that by tomorrow the inactives and bare-actives will actually have readable content. Next on my list would be Dizzy or Nook, and honestly I don't feel super comfortable with the idea of either of them dying right now, so idk who I'd kill. I'd have to re-evaluate with more info.

Dizzy got only two posts. Why him?

Because of his two posts.

I didn't like Dizzy's "I'm not going to think, just townread the first person who says something" thing. If he doesn't go back on it, he has just eschewed himself from giving any readable content today.

Okay, go for it. I am going to do a raincheck until the other half of the players got more than two posts as well.

Ok, See ya never.

[Seanzie]

We have about 7 hours left before EoD and 7 wagons. We should probably think about consolidating soon.

[Luckbox Inc]

We have about 7 hours left before EoD and 7 wagons. We should probably think about consolidating soon.

Who would you suggest we consolidate on?

[Luckbox Inc]

I'd kill Lunch, not like last game at all to me

I think what you're seeing is luckbox's posting looks like someone trying to mimic Luckbox's town game.

Axehole,
Can you explain what my town game looks like?

[Seanzie]

We have about 7 hours left before EoD and 7 wagons. We should probably think about consolidating soon.

Who would you suggest we consolidate on?

Is this a genuine question, or are you just trying to look busy?

[Luckbox Inc]

We have about 7 hours left before EoD and 7 wagons. We should probably think about consolidating soon.

Who would you suggest we consolidate on?

Is this a genuine question, or are you just trying to look busy?

Lol.
You're voting me and I'm asking you who to consolidate on and you're wondering if it's a genuine question.

Why aren't you trying to get people to consolidate on me specifically?

[DaughterOfOmega]

This thread was kind of annoying to read on what I missed

[Luckbox Inc]

This thread was kind of annoying to read on what I missed

Not much. A few of the nonposters showed up. That's about it.

[EnderWiggin]

Esooa seems fine thus far, and GTH I'm guessing town there. I could be wrong, this isn't a super developed reads list, more to sort my thoughts than anything. That being said, I feel feel about where Esooa is for now.

I don't think Finger's one post that you've pushed hard is as wolfy as you are trying to make it out to be. With that post aside, they've been fine. I also feel fine about Falcon.

Let's pretend that I'm already dead, my role is town, and Alison is killed at night: who would you want to kill tomorrow?

I mean, if you get TK'd and flip town, idk why wolves would kill Alison...

My list is not comprised of many associative reads, so it would still more-or-less stand. I'd probably take a closer look at DoO if Alison died, and I'd hope that by tomorrow the inactives and bare-actives will actually have readable content. Next on my list would be Dizzy or Nook, and honestly I don't feel super comfortable with the idea of either of them dying right now, so idk who I'd kill. I'd have to re-evaluate with more info.

Dizzy got only two posts. Why him?

Because of his two posts.

I didn't like Dizzy's "I'm not going to think, just townread the first person who says something" thing. If he doesn't go back on it, he has just eschewed himself from giving any readable content today.

Okay, go for it. I am going to do a raincheck until the other half of the players got more than two posts as well.

Ok, See ya never.

I mean after we lynch all the quiet people...

[Luckbox Inc]

Read through the Axehole iso. There really isn't anything there despite his post count. And one of the few things he says about the game-- that I'm mimicking my village game-- is just absurd given that he's seen me play one day of one game (where I also died D1)-- so that's sort of lol.

Not sure what to make of his play and I didn't pay him a ton of attention in Alta although I did think he would likely good there. I'll probably give his D1 there a look.

[NotAnAxehole]

Read through the Axehole iso. There really isn't anything there despite his post count. And one of the few things he says about the game-- that I'm mimicking my village game-- is just absurd given that he's seen me play one day of one game (where I also died D1)-- so that's sort of lol.

Not sure what to make of his play and I didn't pay him a ton of attention in Alta although I did think he would likely good there. I'll probably give his D1 there a look.

If you can't see the problem with your push based on the vote count, then you are a lost cause. Go find some dice and make up random reads.

[Luckbox Inc]

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/searc ... &start=400

LOL-- Axehole is completely different in Alta and actually makes reads and is playing.

[Seanzie]

We have about 7 hours left before EoD and 7 wagons. We should probably think about consolidating soon.

Who would you suggest we consolidate on?

Is this a genuine question, or are you just trying to look busy?

Lol.
You're voting me and I'm asking you who to consolidate on and you're wondering if it's a genuine question.

Why aren't you trying to get people to consolidate on me specifically?

It seems very clear you know the answer already then, so it wasn't a genuine question.

I am?

[Luckbox Inc]

Read through the Axehole iso. There really isn't anything there despite his post count. And one of the few things he says about the game-- that I'm mimicking my village game-- is just absurd given that he's seen me play one day of one game (where I also died D1)-- so that's sort of lol.

Not sure what to make of his play and I didn't pay him a ton of attention in Alta although I did think he would likely good there. I'll probably give his D1 there a look.

If you can't see the problem with your push based on the vote count, then you are a lost cause. Go find some dice and make up random reads.

Chances are I'm much better at this game than you fwiw.

[NotAnAxehole]

Read through the Axehole iso. There really isn't anything there despite his post count. And one of the few things he says about the game-- that I'm mimicking my village game-- is just absurd given that he's seen me play one day of one game (where I also died D1)-- so that's sort of lol.

Not sure what to make of his play and I didn't pay him a ton of attention in Alta although I did think he would likely good there. I'll probably give his D1 there a look.

If you can't see the problem with your push based on the vote count, then you are a lost cause. Go find some dice and make up random reads.

Chances are I'm much better at this game than you fwiw.

You can certainly discuss that in great detail from the dead chat... In about 7 hours.

[Luckbox Inc]

Read through the Axehole iso. There really isn't anything there despite his post count. And one of the few things he says about the game-- that I'm mimicking my village game-- is just absurd given that he's seen me play one day of one game (where I also died D1)-- so that's sort of lol.

Not sure what to make of his play and I didn't pay him a ton of attention in Alta although I did think he would likely good there. I'll probably give his D1 there a look.

If you can't see the problem with your push based on the vote count, then you are a lost cause. Go find some dice and make up random reads.

Chances are I'm much better at this game than you fwiw.

You can certainly discuss that in great detail from the dead chat... In about 7 hours.

Like I'm probably not going to be tolerating sass from people who probably aren't that great.

[NotAnAxehole]

Read through the Axehole iso. There really isn't anything there despite his post count. And one of the few things he says about the game-- that I'm mimicking my village game-- is just absurd given that he's seen me play one day of one game (where I also died D1)-- so that's sort of lol.

Not sure what to make of his play and I didn't pay him a ton of attention in Alta although I did think he would likely good there. I'll probably give his D1 there a look.

If you can't see the problem with your push based on the vote count, then you are a lost cause. Go find some dice and make up random reads.

Chances are I'm much better at this game than you fwiw.

You can certainly discuss that in great detail from the dead chat... In about 7 hours.

Like I'm probably not going to be tolerating sass from people who probably aren't that great.

Ok bud

[Luckbox Inc]

People should actually read Axehole in Alta there and read his start of D1 specifically. It's completely different to how he's played here.

Can you explain this Axe?

[NotAnAxehole]

People should actually read Axehole in Alta there and read his start of D1 specifically. It's completely different to how he's played here.

Can you explain this Axe?

Dice throwing monkeys will throw dice.

[Luckbox Inc]

People should actually read Axehole in Alta there and read his start of D1 specifically. It's completely different to how he's played here.

Can you explain this Axe?

Dice throwing monkeys will throw dice.

Why were you playing in Alta but not playing there?

Should I quote some of your posts?

[NotAnAxehole]

People should actually read Axehole in Alta there and read his start of D1 specifically. It's completely different to how he's played here.

Can you explain this Axe?

Dice throwing monkeys will throw dice.

Why were you playing in Alta but not playing there?

Should I quote some of your posts?

The NPCs in this area are still on high alert.

[Luckbox Inc]

I'm not sure which is more scummy,

Guillotine being a memer that is excessively meming which seems like something a scum memer could get caught up in (or a disinterested towny).

Or EnderWiggin giving the excessive memer a town pass.

Probably the latter?

I'm not sure which is more scummy,

Guillotine being a memer that is excessively meming which seems like something a scum memer could get caught up in (or a disinterested towny).

Or EnderWiggin giving the excessive memer a town pass.

Probably the latter?

Why can't it just be Guillotine messing around d1?

I don't see how your question-hypothesis poses a contradiction to anything I said.

@MacDougall I know you're voting luckbox, but can you play devil's advocate for a second and give me a reason why I should town read him? I feel like there are a couple of meta options, I'll let you choose your approach though.

I'm not sure which is more scummy,

Guillotine being a memer that is excessively meming which seems like something a scum memer could get caught up in (or a disinterested towny).

Or EnderWiggin giving the excessive memer a town pass.

Probably the latter?

Why can't it just be Guillotine messing around d1?

I don't see how your question-hypothesis poses a contradiction to anything I said.

@MacDougall I know you're voting luckbox, but can you play devil's advocate for a second and give me a reason why I should town read him? I feel like there are a couple of meta options, I'll let you choose your approach though.

You're asking Mac for a reason why you should town read me when he's voting me?

Very astute observation. I will not bore you with my line of thinking as you probably have already deduced that as well.

Everything you say reminds me of myself when I was a little prick who had read Beginners Psychology and wanted to sound cultured.

For all of you townies in the game, I'd like to point out that by this, he's saying that he thinks my posts are more personality driven than alignment driven. Therefore, it makes very little sense that he would be voting me over anything he's seen in the game.

But yeah, that and the early town read on Guillotine when Guillotine wasn't being towny (albeit, maybe it's not scummy, but certainly not worthy of a D1 pass - It's hardly even been funny to be honest... Maybe more clowny?)

So... Vote for this guy. Or Dana, I still think Dana is high probability wolf for the early role fishing and general mechanical posting during RVS.

Like you're actually interacting with players, and probing them, and making reads.
And you're doing none of that here.

[Seanzie]

People should actually read Axehole in Alta there and read his start of D1 specifically. It's completely different to how he's played here.

Can you explain this Axe?

^^This is actually a good point. There is a stark contrast between Axe's first few pages of his AtLA ISO vs his ISO here. In AtLA almost out the game Axe was solving and making pushes. Here Axe has done none of that.

[VOTE: Axe] aubergine

[Luckbox Inc]

You really do need to explain how I'm different than in Alta though.

[NotAnAxehole]

You really do need to explain how I'm different than in Alta though.

You're equally disruptive in both games.

[Luckbox Inc]

"@MacDougall I know you're voting luckbox, but can you play devil's advocate for a second and give me a reason why I should town read him? I feel like there are a couple of meta options, I'll let you choose your approach though."

Like this in particular is obviously relevant to this game. And it was a weird post. But Axe had "thoughts" about me. It would be great if he shared them here though.

[Luckbox Inc]

You really do need to explain how I'm different than in Alta though.

You're equally disruptive in both games.

Did I not advocate for killing a wolf on D1 in Alta?

[NotAnAxehole]

"@MacDougall I know you're voting luckbox, but can you play devil's advocate for a second and give me a reason why I should town read him? I feel like there are a couple of meta options, I'll let you choose your approach though."

Like this in particular is obviously relevant to this game. And it was a weird post. But Axe had "thoughts" about me. It would be great if he shared them here though.

If you don't understand the post at face value, then me explaining it is not likely to aid the situation.

If you don't follow what I'm doing based on my vote, but you follow what others are doing based on "tone" reads, then you're not going to follow anything that I have to say. Let's be honest.

[Luckbox Inc]

You really do need to explain how I'm different than in Alta though.

You're equally disruptive in both games.

Do you think being disruptive is something that I'm more apt to be as a villager or as a wolf?

[Alison]

Why is splints a wolf?

Wolfy tone

Not convincing.

I'm not really sure you understand tone fwiw.

I definitely do.

[NotAnAxehole]

Why is splints a wolf?

Wolfy tone

Not convincing.

I'm not really sure you understand tone fwiw.

I definitely do.

Will you sheep me now? Or sheep Nanook, I'm good with that too.

[Luckbox Inc]

"@MacDougall I know you're voting luckbox, but can you play devil's advocate for a second and give me a reason why I should town read him? I feel like there are a couple of meta options, I'll let you choose your approach though."

Like this in particular is obviously relevant to this game. And it was a weird post. But Axe had "thoughts" about me. It would be great if he shared them here though.

If you don't understand the post at face value, then me explaining it is not likely to aid the situation.

If you don't follow what I'm doing based on my vote, but you follow what others are doing based on "tone" reads, then you're not going to follow anything that I have to say. Let's be honest.

Just to be clear: you're refusing to talk about your thoughts on my play here in this game as it relates to how you were observing me in Alta?

[Alison]

Dizzy avoiding the thread is >rand mafia cmv

I've seen Dizzy afk as villa but he tends to be a lot more upfront about it. He'll be like "I'm not playing this game because I don't have the time and energy and interest. I'll come back when there's less people and try to give a solve". The weird "I'm picking someone random to sheep" thing wasn't great because it's like "I'm not playing this game but actually I am", it's like a paper facade of playing that I don't think he usually bothers with as town. Also doesn't help that the person he picked to sheep was Lunchbox.

[NotAnAxehole]

"@MacDougall I know you're voting luckbox, but can you play devil's advocate for a second and give me a reason why I should town read him? I feel like there are a couple of meta options, I'll let you choose your approach though."

Like this in particular is obviously relevant to this game. And it was a weird post. But Axe had "thoughts" about me. It would be great if he shared them here though.

If you don't understand the post at face value, then me explaining it is not likely to aid the situation.

If you don't follow what I'm doing based on my vote, but you follow what others are doing based on "tone" reads, then you're not going to follow anything that I have to say. Let's be honest.

Just to be clear: you're refusing to talk about your thoughts on my play here in this game as it relates to how you were observing me in Alta?

Stop trying to interact with me, I'm a billboard player, if you can read me, then you don't need to ask these pointless questions, if you can't read me, then you're not going to, and asking the questions is pointless anyway.

You would be better off throwing dice.

[Alison]

We have about 7 hours left before EoD and 7 wagons. We should probably think about consolidating soon.

I would like DOO/Lunchbox competing wagons ideally.

[Luckbox Inc]

Dizzy avoiding the thread is >rand mafia cmv

I've seen Dizzy afk as villa but he tends to be a lot more upfront about it. He'll be like "I'm not playing this game because I don't have the time and energy and interest. I'll come back when there's less people and try to give a solve". The weird "I'm picking someone random to sheep" thing wasn't great because it's like "I'm not playing this game but actually I am", it's like a paper facade of playing that I don't think he usually bothers with as town. Also doesn't help that the person he picked to sheep was Lunchbox.

It was DoO not me.

Good post though.

[Luckbox Inc]

We have about 7 hours left before EoD and 7 wagons. We should probably think about consolidating soon.

I would like DOO/Lunchbox competing wagons ideally.

Ok. If you claim to be able to understand tone then you need to reread and then read one of my village games.

[DaughterOfOmega]

We have about 7 hours left before EoD and 7 wagons. We should probably think about consolidating soon.

I would like DOO/Lunchbox competing wagons ideally.

yeah nah I'm not fighting a battle like that

[Alison]

Why is splints a wolf?

Wolfy tone

Not convincing.

I'm not really sure you understand tone fwiw.

I definitely do.

Will you sheep me now? Or sheep Nanook, I'm good with that too.

I'm not voting Seanzie, I think he's town. I'm willing to vote Lunchbox.

[Alison]

I don't have strong suspicions of Axe. If I voted him it would be a policy vote. I'm not really down to do policy votes when I have strong suspects who are still alive.

[Luckbox Inc]

We have about 7 hours left before EoD and 7 wagons. We should probably think about consolidating soon.

I would like DOO/Lunchbox competing wagons ideally.

yeah nah I'm not fighting a battle like that

I'm not either

[fingersplints]

Read through the Axehole iso. There really isn't anything there despite his post count. And one of the few things he says about the game-- that I'm mimicking my village game-- is just absurd given that he's seen me play one day of one game (where I also died D1)-- so that's sort of lol.

Not sure what to make of his play and I didn't pay him a ton of attention in Alta although I did think he would likely good there. I'll probably give his D1 there a look.

If you can't see the problem with your push based on the vote count, then you are a lost cause. Go find some dice and make up random reads.

Chances are I'm much better at this game than you fwiw.

You can certainly discuss that in great detail from the dead chat... In about 7 hours.

Like I'm probably not going to be tolerating sass from people who probably aren't that great.

Can we not do stuff like this? People play differently. We don’t need to put people down like they aren’t good enough at this game. We all play for fun.

This isn’t in any way a defence of Axe, who I actually haven’t made my mind up about.

If I’m the only one it bothers, than I guess whatever I’ll deal, but reading stuff like that just brings me down.

[Alison]

We have about 7 hours left before EoD and 7 wagons. We should probably think about consolidating soon.

I would like DOO/Lunchbox competing wagons ideally.

yeah nah I'm not fighting a battle like that

Why? Lots of people suspect Lunchbox.

[NotAnAxehole]

We have about 7 hours left before EoD and 7 wagons. We should probably think about consolidating soon.

I would like DOO/Lunchbox competing wagons ideally.

Ok. If you claim to be able to understand tone then you need to reread and then read one of my village games.

Are you claiming to be a good one-dimensional player?

Sounds like an NPC to me.

[Luckbox Inc]

I don't have strong suspicions of Axe. If I voted him it would be a policy vote. I'm not really down to do policy votes when I have strong suspects who are still alive.

Why not understand the argument that is being made for him?

[fingersplints]

Also I have no intentions of reading games I didn’t play.

[Luckbox Inc]

Read through the Axehole iso. There really isn't anything there despite his post count. And one of the few things he says about the game-- that I'm mimicking my village game-- is just absurd given that he's seen me play one day of one game (where I also died D1)-- so that's sort of lol.

Not sure what to make of his play and I didn't pay him a ton of attention in Alta although I did think he would likely good there. I'll probably give his D1 there a look.

If you can't see the problem with your push based on the vote count, then you are a lost cause. Go find some dice and make up random reads.

Chances are I'm much better at this game than you fwiw.

You can certainly discuss that in great detail from the dead chat... In about 7 hours.

Like I'm probably not going to be tolerating sass from people who probably aren't that great.

Can we not do stuff like this? People play differently. We don’t need to put people down like they aren’t good enough at this game. We all play for fun.

This isn’t in any way a defence of Axe, who I actually haven’t made my mind up about.

If I’m the only one it bothers, than I guess whatever I’ll deal, but reading stuff like that just brings me down.

He told me my reads were like rolling dice and that I wasn't able to comprehend his posts. Fuck that.

[Alison]

I don't have strong suspicions of Axe. If I voted him it would be a policy vote. I'm not really down to do policy votes when I have strong suspects who are still alive.

Why not understand the argument that is being made for him?

The argument that is being made for him is "Axe is not doing any solving and is different from his last town game".

I believe that those two things are NAI for him.

[Luckbox Inc]

I mean if he's a wolf (which he very well might be)-- then all good. Wolves can say whatever they want.

But if he's a villager giving me shit like that then I'll be arguing back.

[NotAnAxehole]

Read through the Axehole iso. There really isn't anything there despite his post count. And one of the few things he says about the game-- that I'm mimicking my village game-- is just absurd given that he's seen me play one day of one game (where I also died D1)-- so that's sort of lol.

Not sure what to make of his play and I didn't pay him a ton of attention in Alta although I did think he would likely good there. I'll probably give his D1 there a look.

If you can't see the problem with your push based on the vote count, then you are a lost cause. Go find some dice and make up random reads.

Chances are I'm much better at this game than you fwiw.

You can certainly discuss that in great detail from the dead chat... In about 7 hours.

Like I'm probably not going to be tolerating sass from people who probably aren't that great.

Can we not do stuff like this? People play differently. We don’t need to put people down like they aren’t good enough at this game. We all play for fun.

This isn’t in any way a defence of Axe, who I actually haven’t made my mind up about.

If I’m the only one it bothers, than I guess whatever I’ll deal, but reading stuff like that just brings me down.

He told me my reads were like rolling dice and that I wasn't able to comprehend his posts. Fuck that.

Correction, I said you would be better throwing dice.