basic mafia [END]

[Dyslexicon]

I don't know who to vote.

Does anyone have a good argument?

[Belzy]

I am happy Dizzy is here!!❤ Thank you for asking.

Buddies 4 lyf <3

[Seanzie]

You literally cut the part of the post out where I explained the read:

Ok. I still don't understand why that warrants a scum read on me. Maybe wait until I start playing the game.

D1 is almost over, I can't wait for you forever. It isn't a strong scumread, but if you aren't contributing much, you can't complain about people forming scumreads on you based on the little you have contributed. Now that you're actually contributing, I will reassess.

[NotAnAxehole]

this is a complex setup, apologies if I get confused by all the mech

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME add this man to your town circle, never rescind.

Hes the third am I supposed to have more

I feel like I should have more

I think some of the less active players are pretty towny.

Which of the dozen are you referring to

Dizzy & Belzy are getting town passes for now.

[Dyslexicon]

Probably Dyslexicon or Esooa.

Esooa knows me and my thought processes playing mafia the best, Dyslexicon has the highest hitrate in catching me when I'm a wolf

Literally when I thought I'd go read your ISO cause I've convinced myself I can actually read you. =p

[Belzy]

I don't know who to vote.

Does anyone have a good argument?

TonyStark voted me, and done NOTHING TOWNLY! so i omgus vote here

[Seanzie]

I don't know who to vote.

Does anyone have a good argument?

See Luckbox's case on Axe. Check out the first page or two of Axe's ISO in AtLA and compare it to Axe's ISO here.

[Dyslexicon]

D1 is almost over, I can't wait for you forever. It isn't a strong scumread, but if you aren't contributing much, you can't complain about people forming scumreads on you based on the little you have contributed. Now that you're actually contributing, I will reassess.

Actually I can. It's not like I expect to be town read, but nothing I had posted warrants any sort of read on me from you imo. I don't understand your reason for saying it's scummy either.

[Dyslexicon]

I don't know who to vote.

Does anyone have a good argument?

See Luckbox's case on Axe. Check out the first page or two of Axe's ISO in AtLA and compare it to Axe's ISO here.

I'm definitely not reading other games. But I'll check the case after Alison ISO

[Dyslexicon]

I don't know who to vote.

Does anyone have a good argument?

TonyStark voted me, and done NOTHING TOWNLY! so i omgus vote here

You make a compelling argument. I will strongly consider supporting my buddy's omgus.

[Belzy]

I don't know who to vote.

Does anyone have a good argument?

TonyStark voted me, and done NOTHING TOWNLY! so i omgus vote here

You make a compelling argument. I will strongly consider supporting my buddy's omgus.

I love you

[NotAnAxehole]

I'm ok with DOO being the yeet as long as town!doo = definitively at least one of Ender or Alison is scum.

[Seanzie]

D1 is almost over, I can't wait for you forever. It isn't a strong scumread, but if you aren't contributing much, you can't complain about people forming scumreads on you based on the little you have contributed. Now that you're actually contributing, I will reassess.

Actually I can. It's not like I expect to be town read, but nothing I had posted warrants any sort of read on me from you imo. I don't understand your reason for saying it's scummy either.

Sure, you can do whatever you want, but your complaint is not warranted IMO.

If you don't know why trying to get a free pass while contributing nothing D1 doesn't have high value to a wolf, idk what to tell you. I'm also not sure if you would have come back to the thread today if me and others didn't pressure you based on this.

[Syn]

this is a complex setup, apologies if I get confused by all the mech

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME add this man to your town circle, never rescind.

Hes the third am I supposed to have more

I feel like I should have more

I think some of the less active players are pretty towny.

Which of the dozen are you referring to

Dizzy & Belzy are getting town passes for now.

my take after reading the last page is exactly the opposite

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

[Seanzie]

I don't know who to vote.

Does anyone have a good argument?

See Luckbox's case on Axe. Check out the first page or two of Axe's ISO in AtLA and compare it to Axe's ISO here.

I'm definitely not reading other games. But I'll check the case after Alison ISO

Sure, I wouldn't bother reading the entire game, skimming one page of his ISO though would be quite illuminating. He was solving/interacting a LOT with people D1 of AtLA. Here he has done essentially no solving. He has a high thread presence here, but most of it has been not related to the game or just bad.

[Belzy]

this is a complex setup, apologies if I get confused by all the mech

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME add this man to your town circle, never rescind.

Hes the third am I supposed to have more

I feel like I should have more

I think some of the less active players are pretty towny.

Which of the dozen are you referring to

Dizzy & Belzy are getting town passes for now.

my take after reading the last page is exactly the opposite

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

What about TonyStark? My vote is on Tony, so I would appreciate your input there before killing me off!

[Seanzie]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME add this man to your town circle, never rescind.

Hes the third am I supposed to have more

I feel like I should have more

I think some of the less active players are pretty towny.

Which of the dozen are you referring to

Dizzy & Belzy are getting town passes for now.

my take after reading the last page is exactly the opposite

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

What about TonyStark? My vote is on Tony, so I would appreciate your input there before killing me off!

Why are you so worried about death? You haven't really gotten engaged in this game at all and you aren't in any real danger looking at current wagons.

[Belzy]

is the reason you have no motivation because you’re mafia because if so if you tell us that will end your suffering

No, I just don't like reading. I forgot I signed up for this game, and then forgot about the game again, and now I'm wondering if I can just play the game with no motivation, basically no reading, and still not be a total donkey who fucks me team over. It's been going so-so in the past. =p

I once joined a game on a smurf and exclusively used random.org, ignored every post in the game and people thought I was a god. It's a good place to start if you don't want to read.

rng says you're a wolf

what now, money bags

You have only 7 posts. Gave no reads, ask no one questions, only this rng read, and then vote for me while i am clearly an easy target for goofing around and not caring. You scum yourself, bb?

[Belzy]

Hes the third am I supposed to have more

I feel like I should have more

I think some of the less active players are pretty towny.

Which of the dozen are you referring to

Dizzy & Belzy are getting town passes for now.

my take after reading the last page is exactly the opposite

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

What about TonyStark? My vote is on Tony, so I would appreciate your input there before killing me off!

Why are you so worried about death? You haven't really gotten engaged in this game at all and you aren't in any real danger looking at current wagons.

I aak syn to give an actual read or thought for a first time this game. You don't want Syn to do so? You look disruptively agenda-y, Seanz.

[Seanzie]

is the reason you have no motivation because you’re mafia because if so if you tell us that will end your suffering

No, I just don't like reading. I forgot I signed up for this game, and then forgot about the game again, and now I'm wondering if I can just play the game with no motivation, basically no reading, and still not be a total donkey who fucks me team over. It's been going so-so in the past. =p

I once joined a game on a smurf and exclusively used random.org, ignored every post in the game and people thought I was a god. It's a good place to start if you don't want to read.

rng says you're a wolf

what now, money bags

You have only 7 posts. Gave no reads, ask no one questions, only this rng read, and then vote for me while i am clearly an easy target for goofing around and not caring. You scum yourself, bb?

Syn just repped in like an hour ago...

[Belzy]

is the reason you have no motivation because you’re mafia because if so if you tell us that will end your suffering

No, I just don't like reading. I forgot I signed up for this game, and then forgot about the game again, and now I'm wondering if I can just play the game with no motivation, basically no reading, and still not be a total donkey who fucks me team over. It's been going so-so in the past. =p

I once joined a game on a smurf and exclusively used random.org, ignored every post in the game and people thought I was a god. It's a good place to start if you don't want to read.

rng says you're a wolf

what now, money bags

You have only 7 posts. Gave no reads, ask no one questions, only this rng read, and then vote for me while i am clearly an easy target for goofing around and not caring. You scum yourself, bb?

Syn just repped in like an hour ago...

Oh, right. Still.

[Seanzie]

I think some of the less active players are pretty towny.

Which of the dozen are you referring to

Dizzy & Belzy are getting town passes for now.

my take after reading the last page is exactly the opposite

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

What about TonyStark? My vote is on Tony, so I would appreciate your input there before killing me off!

Why are you so worried about death? You haven't really gotten engaged in this game at all and you aren't in any real danger looking at current wagons.

I aak syn to give an actual read or thought for a first time this game. You don't want Syn to do so? You look disruptively agenda-y, Seanz.

Oh, don't even. You've done jack shit this game, and I've done nothing but try to generate content, both from myself and from others, some of whom have been very stubborn. Why sign up for a game if you aren't going to take it at least halfway seriously?

Syn should answer you, I encorage them to do so. My poke towards you is completely separate from that. You don't seem to give one shit about this game, except you're worried about death. That doesn't make sense from a town standpoint. Don't dodge the question, please try to explain your thought process to help me and others read you.

[Belzy]

People who contributed nothing still are voting for me. Rip.

Easy scapegoat # Belzy

[Belzy]

Which of the dozen are you referring to

Dizzy & Belzy are getting town passes for now.

my take after reading the last page is exactly the opposite

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

What about TonyStark? My vote is on Tony, so I would appreciate your input there before killing me off!

Why are you so worried about death? You haven't really gotten engaged in this game at all and you aren't in any real danger looking at current wagons.

I aak syn to give an actual read or thought for a first time this game. You don't want Syn to do so? You look disruptively agenda-y, Seanz.

Oh, don't even. You've done jack shit this game, and I've done nothing but try to generate content, both from myself and from others, some of whom have been very stubborn. Why sign up for a game if you aren't going to take it at least halfway seriously?

Syn should answer you, I encorage them to do so. My poke towards you is completely separate from that. You don't seem to give one shit about this game, except you're worried about death. That doesn't make sense from a town standpoint. Don't dodge the question, please try to explain your thought process to help me and others read you.

So we agree syn should answer me. We got something here. We're starting to solve the game together.

[Belzy]

@Dyslexicon is Seanzie town?

[Belzy]

Where is everybody? I will sleep soon.

[Belzy]

I entered the thread just a moment ago. I wanna skill. Kill all the scum!

[Belzy]

I entered the thread just a moment ago. I wanna skill. Kill all the scum!

I wanna solve *

[Dyslexicon]

Read Alison's ISO. Thought she was wolf when I first started to read, got more unsure the more I read (mostly cause it looks like she does believe in her scum read on Omega). But I think she still could be mafia here. She can fake that attitude of having a strong scum read.

by the way does anyone know how luckbox feels about playing wolf in general? Do they like playing it, dislike playing it? Do they do well as wolf?

Alison asks this after uttering strong suspicion on Lucky. But Lucky literally said in his first post that he wanted to play as scum, so the question about if he likes it or not reads disingenuous. (And I'm pretty sure Alison later reference that post)

I thought you were pretending to have put me on ignore because of the blacklist thing, which is why you were faking being unable to see my posts. That would be outing because JJJ disabled the ignore function a while back.

I don't feel like this is a real thought.

No I'm doing all the right things. I'm interacting with everyone, thinking about players, making free flowing posts.

But what are you doing?

This might be the most individually scummy post I've seen in the thread so far. It's like they see pretending to be town as a list of checkboxes to tick off and are miffed that Seanzie isn't giving them credit for their performance.

Honestly, I agree with this, surface level maybe, but the post in reference does feel real bad. Wouldn't be surprised at all if it's actually Alison/Lucky here.

Dizzy avoiding the thread is >rand mafia cmv

I've seen Dizzy afk as villa but he tends to be a lot more upfront about it. He'll be like "I'm not playing this game because I don't have the time and energy and interest. I'll come back when there's less people and try to give a solve". The weird "I'm picking someone random to sheep" thing wasn't great because it's like "I'm not playing this game but actually I am", it's like a paper facade of playing that I don't think he usually bothers with as town. Also doesn't help that the person he picked to sheep was Lunchbox.

This is some real convoluted shit lol. I don't see how I was not upfront about being afk/low effort, or even what there is to read into that if you think I wasn't. Also "paper facade" lol. I also didn't pick Lucky to sheep, I picked Omega.

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These are some things I find scummy in Alison's ISO.

It's not impossible for her to be town, but right now well above > mafia for me.

Thoughts?

[Dyslexicon]

@Dyslexicon is Seanzie town?

No idea. Haven't read his posts. His scum read of me is probably NAI, begrudgingly.

But we should probably vote Alison here or else I'll get killed and you'll never do it.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

[Belzy]

Don't kill me.
I am town.
I wanna solve.
TonyStark voted me.
Syn as well.
Both gave 0 reads and thoughts.
Belzy is easy mislynch.
Don't go for the easy target.
You'd be wrong.

[NotAnAxehole]

Read Alison's ISO. Thought she was wolf when I first started to read, got more unsure the more I read (mostly cause it looks like she does believe in her scum read on Omega). But I think she still could be mafia here. She can fake that attitude of having a strong scum read.

by the way does anyone know how luckbox feels about playing wolf in general? Do they like playing it, dislike playing it? Do they do well as wolf?

Alison asks this after uttering strong suspicion on Lucky. But Lucky literally said in his first post that he wanted to play as scum, so the question about if he likes it or not reads disingenuous. (And I'm pretty sure Alison later reference that post)

I thought you were pretending to have put me on ignore because of the blacklist thing, which is why you were faking being unable to see my posts. That would be outing because JJJ disabled the ignore function a while back.

I don't feel like this is a real thought.

No I'm doing all the right things. I'm interacting with everyone, thinking about players, making free flowing posts.

But what are you doing?

This might be the most individually scummy post I've seen in the thread so far. It's like they see pretending to be town as a list of checkboxes to tick off and are miffed that Seanzie isn't giving them credit for their performance.

Honestly, I agree with this, surface level maybe, but the post in reference does feel real bad. Wouldn't be surprised at all if it's actually Alison/Lucky here.

Dizzy avoiding the thread is >rand mafia cmv

I've seen Dizzy afk as villa but he tends to be a lot more upfront about it. He'll be like "I'm not playing this game because I don't have the time and energy and interest. I'll come back when there's less people and try to give a solve". The weird "I'm picking someone random to sheep" thing wasn't great because it's like "I'm not playing this game but actually I am", it's like a paper facade of playing that I don't think he usually bothers with as town. Also doesn't help that the person he picked to sheep was Lunchbox.

This is some real convoluted shit lol. I don't see how I was not upfront about being afk/low effort, or even what there is to read into that if you think I wasn't. Also "paper facade" lol. I also didn't pick Lucky to sheep, I picked Omega.

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These are some things I find scummy in Alison's ISO.

It's not impossible for her to be town, but right now well above > mafia for me.

Thoughts?

I didn't want to say it because I felt like it would increase my chances of being yeeted, but now that DOO wagon is up there, we can all acknowledge this.

[Dyslexicon]

Yeah, Sean might be town tbh. But ask me later maybe

[Belzy]

@Dyslexicon is Seanzie town?

No idea. Haven't read his posts. His scum read of me is probably NAI, begrudgingly.

But we should probably vote Alison here or else I'll get killed and you'll never do it.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Yeah, i won't kill you cuz i love youuuuuu

Ohh Alison.... i fear not an easy read. And such long posts.. not catched up regarding Alison. Today not the right day for me to revolve Alison.

[Belzy]

Yeah, Sean might be town tbh. But ask me later maybe

Same, same. I think so too, but also second guess. Good nuf for now.

[Dyslexicon]

I didn't want to say it because I felt like it would increase my chances of being yeeted, but now that DOO wagon is up there, we can all acknowledge this.

What do you mean by this?

[Dyslexicon]

Belzy either town or decided to really do something this game. Probably just town tbh

[NotAnAxehole]

I didn't want to say it because I felt like it would increase my chances of being yeeted, but now that DOO wagon is up there, we can all acknowledge this.

What do you mean by this?

Well, I felt so pressured by duckbox and seanzie, you know?

[Syn]

is the reason you have no motivation because you’re mafia because if so if you tell us that will end your suffering

No, I just don't like reading. I forgot I signed up for this game, and then forgot about the game again, and now I'm wondering if I can just play the game with no motivation, basically no reading, and still not be a total donkey who fucks me team over. It's been going so-so in the past. =p

I once joined a game on a smurf and exclusively used random.org, ignored every post in the game and people thought I was a god. It's a good place to start if you don't want to read.

rng says you're a wolf

what now, money bags

You have only 7 posts. Gave no reads, ask no one questions, only this rng read, and then vote for me while i am clearly an easy target for goofing around and not caring. You scum yourself, bb?

I just subbed in lol

how are you an easy target

[Belzy]

But if day is almost over then players like TonyStark are really lurking big time, and Tony with just only 0,25 posts this game, no given reads nor thoughts JUST votes me when i am obviously an easy target!

Come on! I am worth keeping more than that!

[Syn]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME add this man to your town circle, never rescind.

Hes the third am I supposed to have more

I feel like I should have more

I think some of the less active players are pretty towny.

Which of the dozen are you referring to

Dizzy & Belzy are getting town passes for now.

my take after reading the last page is exactly the opposite

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

What about TonyStark? My vote is on Tony, so I would appreciate your input there before killing me off!

has tsp even posted since I joined

[Dyslexicon]

Me desperately looking for Axe's case on Lucky when it was the other way around rip

[NotAnAxehole]

Come on! I am worth keeping more than that!

This may be the least true statement I've read all game...

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

Well, I felt so pressured by duckbox and seanzie, you know?

But do you agree with the read or not?

[Lu Ren]

So here's the thing.

I think the fact that everyone in the thread is going "Alison is a villager, but she's tunnelling DOO and her read on DOO should be ignored" is telling. If DOO and me were T/T, I'd expect mafia to try to fan the flames a little more and slide by unobtrusively while we're going at it hammer and tongs. Nobody seems interested in digging into our interactions: I've seen a lot of "it's a boring and pointless argument" excuses used to justify essentially ignoring the whole thing and coming out the other side with no desire to pressure DOO.

I'm pretty sure DOO is mafia, and her teammates are trying to protect her without having to publicly defend her or attack me (which would be difficult). They drop broad townreads on me to placate me, probably kill me at night and use the fact that I was widely townread to excuse it, and try at all times to paint me as confbiased and my push on DOO as bad.

Lunchbox fits this pattern, their posting has been individually bad and the way they treat DOO and the way DOO treats them is extremely weird.

No, I'm saying it because your argument was incredibly insubstantial to start out with and you ramped it up to an incredible degree without her doing much in that time to provoke it and it feels like a very towny thing for you because I don't think you'd do that sort of thing as mafia as much because it's. a pretty rough thing to do if you don't believe it. I had a fairly strong town read on DoO beforehand, so my immediate reaction to that sequence was "why on earth is this happening this is incredibly unnecessary", and if you want gamestate reads you two were the only in thread apart from Axe until it boiled down a little, and he stepped in and it kinda ended, and I think in general mafia's play today is to let y'all fight and just kill people nobody's going to strongly oppose because town infighting causes enough commotion that they can just hang out. One of the posts that pinged me from Luckbox specifically was the "doo and alison are probably both villagers but if one is w i would definitely lean doo", I felt it was pretty wolfy in the context of what you're saying, since basically everybody else has been pretending it didn't happen and I don't think anyone wants to poke one of the two most volatile/vocal town members in the game if they can just push a lazy wagon on someone else. I think letting mafia put broad town reads on both of you is absolutely fine and we should call their bluff and clear a bunch of other towns while we have the time rather than sitting back and letting them just say ok well they're bickering and taking up threadspace so nobody going to bother sorting through the rest of the game and we can just chill.

[Belzy]

is the reason you have no motivation because you’re mafia because if so if you tell us that will end your suffering

No, I just don't like reading. I forgot I signed up for this game, and then forgot about the game again, and now I'm wondering if I can just play the game with no motivation, basically no reading, and still not be a total donkey who fucks me team over. It's been going so-so in the past. =p

I once joined a game on a smurf and exclusively used random.org, ignored every post in the game and people thought I was a god. It's a good place to start if you don't want to read.

rng says you're a wolf

what now, money bags

You have only 7 posts. Gave no reads, ask no one questions, only this rng read, and then vote for me while i am clearly an easy target for goofing around and not caring. You scum yourself, bb?

I just subbed in lol

how are you an easy target

You don't agree with me being easy target?

Why you vote me? Why me and not TonyStark?

You still not answered my questioned or explained your vote.. still no reads/thoughts from me. Just vote me, and ask me a question back instead answering yourself..bad syn is bad!

[falcon45ca]

I never realize how good I have it in a mafia community until I try and play somewhere else, where the community is so brainless it hurts to read.

Glad Syn is decent

This post was shortly before Syn subbed in for Grogu. BTSC maybe?

[Lu Ren]

I am down to exe both Lunchbox and DOO. I'd prefer DOO first. Neither of them have actually tried to proffer any logical response to my case, they just keep repeating that I'm delusional and wrong, or 0/2, or that they're "objectively townie".

I have townreads on Ender and Seanzie.

Can you talk about those townreads, specifically Seanzie? I don't have an opinion on him beyond an unalign with lunchbox.

[Belzy]

Come on! I am worth keeping more than that!

This may be the least true statement I've read all game...

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

A moment ago Dizzy and i were town according to you. Were you TMI then, and joining an easy wagon now?

[NotAnAxehole]

Well, I felt so pressured by duckbox and seanzie, you know?

But do you agree with the read or not?

I, strangely enough, agree with all of your reads.