MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:29 am
I read Alison's ISO in the night and thought she was definitely inside of her wolfrange. The way that she was making reads on day 1 was unusual for her. She entered the thread immediately trying to construct things and took no time for her usual reaction tests and analysis. At minimum she is trying different strategy. I am not opposed to votes on her, but mischopping her is game losing so I am cautious.
Seanzie you seem like an inno child.
i don't deny that her pushes were bad or didn't make sense, but i really don't think she'd pick those reasons to push a villager on
that's the beginning and the end of it
let's kill other people, such as the people encouraging that dichotomy yesterday
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:59 am
What are your thoughts on dizzy fingersplints
I’d have to reread them for any specifics but I could see them being a wolf.
Especially if dizzy town = Mac or Seanzie being wolf because I think they both are town.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:57 am
If Dizzy is town then we're turbofucked lol because scum will probably get exes on strong town players for free back to back.
In that world it's probably Seanzie/Mac or something. But in that world you should distrust my reads anyway because I'm clearly off.
I know I wasn’t asked about nanook but the conversation has gone there, so I haven’t seen anything especially wolfy there. Could be, but seems quite normal behaviour there.
Seems very concerned with the Esooa vote. Definitely suspicious since she died. Acknowledge it could be a set up, but I feel in most games I’ve played lately on the syndicate most people don’t look a ton into the possible motive behind the NK, so I think it’s quite likely for a mafia to feel safe killing someone going after them and just not have it mentioned again.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:33 am
Axe is less townie than before but still town, don't vote him. Dizzy should be the vote here. If y'all want to vote me out for wrongly scumreading someone who literally started posting pages of song lyrics and explicitly refused to contribute then go ahead, but after my flip you should 100% kill Dizzy. Esooa wanted Dizzy dead and was confident I was town and the people on my wagon were mafia.
Nanook also falls into that category but Dizzy is scummier obviously.
Axe has maf equity but I second this post.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:37 am
I have a gut read on Falcon being town that I can't really justify.
It was in mafia's interests to promote the idea that DOO/Alison has one scum in it; people realizing it's T/T would have ruined both the DOO misexe and dissipated much of the suspicion against me after, both of which is fairly beneficial for the mafia to encourage. The two people who were most loudly pushing for DOO/Alison being T/T were Lu Ren and Lunchbox, which I think makes them look good; I've largely moved on from my scumread against Lunchbox as a result of the DOO flip, their towntell earlier, and this.
Lu Ren is town. Will defend this read to death do us part.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:33 am
Axe is less townie than before but still town, don't vote him. Dizzy should be the vote here. If y'all want to vote me out for wrongly scumreading someone who literally started posting pages of song lyrics and explicitly refused to contribute then go ahead, but after my flip you should 100% kill Dizzy. Esooa wanted Dizzy dead and was confident I was town and the people on my wagon were mafia.
Nanook also falls into that category but Dizzy is scummier obviously.
Pretty sure Alison randed wolf.
That sounds fake but okay.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:33 am
Axe is less townie than before but still town, don't vote him. Dizzy should be the vote here. If y'all want to vote me out for wrongly scumreading someone who literally started posting pages of song lyrics and explicitly refused to contribute then go ahead, but after my flip you should 100% kill Dizzy. Esooa wanted Dizzy dead and was confident I was town and the people on my wagon were mafia.
Nanook also falls into that category but Dizzy is scummier obviously.
We'll indeed see what happens after you flip.
All of the things you listed as good reasons to kill DOO all happened after you made up your mind.
Yeah DOO was scummy (to my reading) early D1 and when I pushed her on it she had a meltdown. Don't regret exeing that slot.
DOO was objectively towny early on tbh, so her dying makes the game a lot harder even if she wasn't contributing.
Disagree tbh.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:44 am
I really don’t like the plan of “let’s vote Alison because she was wrong in her suspicion, then if she comes back as town we’ll just vote this person next anyways”
That’s how mafia controls the day and how town loses
Correct.
On that note, Falc might be scum this game.
I actually realised I usually have a stronger townread on him at this point.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:55 am
I'm interested to hear what Mac has to say on the matter.
If you mean this matter.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:51 am
Here's something for you to consider. Esooa wasn't particularly widely townread and wasn't that active or engaged in the thread. She had a couple of stubborn views, mainly that I was town and the people on my wagon were wolves.
She died in the night. There are two possible reasons why this could have happened. One is that she was right and was killed for her reads. The other is that she was wrong, Alison is mafia, and her death was WIFOM.
I know the second possibility is false, and if and when you flip me, you will also know this. Therefore if you flip me you should always take the first possibility as true and assume there's one or more mafia on my wagon yesterday.
My personal opinion on Esooa is that I enjoy her being dead when I am a wolf. I suspect I am not the only one that feels this way. Esooa is a priority for me to NK as early as plausible for a few reasons the main one being that getting he mischopped is exceedingly difficult without outing oneself as a wolf along the way. Personally I find her quite easy to deal with in the early game because I feel she has a personal policy of not pushing me. But as the game progresses she generally reevaluates and starts tunneling me despite my alignment because she is a player that doesn't fear pushing for policyesque reasons. So long story short, I have a very defined strategy for dealing with Esooa when I rand wolf and that is to kill her as early as I can regardless of whatever is going on around me and regardless of whether she is reading me town.
Esooa can be wrong about you but still be an SPK and nothing more.
On that note, as I love playing with Esooa you can probably hard-clear me now.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:31 am
Why is misexing me game losing? Just sheep my POE, you know I am good at finding wolves on my wagon when I am the designated misexe (CoV, PSY as examples).
It won't work like that. You aren't that naive surely?
You die, I did, wolves coast. That's how this goes if you are town and die today.
If you are town you should stop playing like you are ok with dying today and start pushing your best chop.
I'm honestly disappointed by how lowly Mac rates me smh.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:33 am
@EnderWiggin where are you? I am surprised not to see your prints all over this game. Did you rand wolf?
I had a busy week re-structuring a data-centre and then I collapsed and slept until midday, spent some time with friends, and just got back to the computer.
Amazingly, I sometimes have a life too.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:01 am
What'd you find particularly wolfy about nook? He's in my POE for gamestate reasons, but his posts have not been super standout wolfy to me.
He's doing his wolf-play of TMI clearing someone and sheeping them.
From what I've seen he seems to be more co-operative as wolf than town. If that makes sense?
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:44 am
My POE would be something like...
Dizzy/nook, as discussed, plus
BK/TSP/splints (the inactives)
Going with my gut townread on Falcon still.
Mac had an okay entrance. I think I can catch him if he's a wolf and will update you if I end up having reason to insert him into the POE. I've gone through my reasons to townread everyone else.
I feel like this thread has been just a wolfy circle jerk for the past couple pages. Dizzy is almost cleared inno child by vote logic, so naturally, they are going to die today.
@MacDougall Nanook sheeps me in most games we play, and in most games we're town we win. So why are you trying to cast shade on that when you should be somewhat aware of how that relationship works / where it comes from.
Like, I get that this isn't my main site and I find it hard to adjust to how town plays here because for the most part.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:12 am
Since we’re playing basic bitch mafia I’ve decided upon the following method: Find one town read, sheep until death do us part. No reading, no responsibility.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:12 am
Since we’re playing basic bitch mafia I’ve decided upon the following method: Find one town read, sheep until death do us part. No reading, no responsibility.
Who wants to be my town read?
hook me up, our relationship might not last very long tho!
You won!
I’ll vote whoever you’re voting at EoD. See you then!
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:55 pm
I just remembered I'm in a mafia game. And I also have like no motivation to be in a mafia game. The struggle is real. Sorry about that.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:55 pm
I hard claim VT. And I'm a good luck chop. Maybe.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:55 pm
is the reason you have no motivation because you’re mafia because if so if you tell us that will end your suffering
No, I just don't like reading. I forgot I signed up for this game, and then forgot about the game again, and now I'm wondering if I can just play the game with no motivation, basically no reading, and still not be a total donkey who fucks me team over. It's been going so-so in the past. =p
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:59 pmI once joined a game on a smurf and exclusively used random.org, ignored every post in the game and people thought I was a god. It's a good place to start if you don't want to read.
Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:05 pmWhere are on the same boat.
How you been?
I'm good, just busy. Been playing a lot of Scrabble, which I love. My vacation is starting soon though, which is very much needed. I have some stress in my body, and when that happens, I usually sing. But I can't get my stereo to work and my boyfriend is out of town rippppp
I hope you are good as well. Summer ^^
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:08 pm
I'm sorry to add non-content to a game that I understand suffers from non-content.
I will probably read at some point and say words about it.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:09 pm
Except EoD is in like 5 hours lol
Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:13 pm
Dizzyyyyy, do you remember we actually been on a real boat together? I miss those days! ❤
Yaaaas! Literally in the same boat! Also, it rained so hard that day. lolnorway =p
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:21 pm
@Luckbox Inc Are you teamed with Nanook or with Sean?
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:22 pm
There's some people I haven't played with here. Hi to all. ^^
I'm usually not useless. And even when I'm useless, I'm usually not useless.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:24 pm
@DaughterOfOmega Do you like playing mafia more than town? And is this why you're posting a lot, and also why you're getting voted?
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:21 pm
@Luckbox Inc Are you teamed with Nanook or with Sean?
Both
Gottem
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:25 pm
Better bus Omega before it's too late
[VOTE:
Omega] aubergine
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:34 pm
Read some of Omega's ISO, mostly arguing with Alison. But I don't think it's scummy, especially the post where she says she hopes Alison has a fake read rather than real. It's a thing that probably can be faked, but ime town says this more than scum do. Problem is, I've never seen Omega actually post lol, but that is based off of one game only. Don't know what the case is on her is, and if it's solid/others have more experience here, then ignore me maybe.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:34 pmYou literally cut the part of the post out where I explained the read:
Ok. I still don't understand why that warrants a scum read on me. Maybe wait until I start playing the game.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:40 pm
Sean is scum reading me. Maybe NAI but big nope.
Erika is arguing with this read and buddying me.
Erika lock scum.
Not really, but now that it happens, it's kind of weird.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:43 pmD1 is almost over, I can't wait for you forever. It isn't a strong scumread, but if you aren't contributing much, you can't complain about people forming scumreads on you based on the little you have contributed. Now that you're actually contributing, I will reassess.
Actually I can. It's not like I expect to be town read, but nothing I had posted warrants any sort of read on me from you imo. I don't understand your reason for saying it's scummy either.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:42 pm
I don't know who to vote.
Does anyone have a good argument?
TonyStark voted me, and done NOTHING TOWNLY! so i omgus vote here
You make a compelling argument. I will strongly consider supporting my buddy's omgus.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:10 pm
Read Alison's ISO. Thought she was wolf when I first started to read, got more unsure the more I read (mostly cause it looks like she does believe in her scum read on Omega). But I think she still could be mafia here. She can fake that attitude of having a strong scum read.
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:49 am
by the way does anyone know how luckbox feels about playing wolf in general? Do they like playing it, dislike playing it? Do they do well as wolf?
Alison asks this after uttering strong suspicion on Lucky. But Lucky literally said in his first post that he wanted to play as scum, so the question about if he likes it or not reads disingenuous. (And I'm pretty sure Alison later reference that post)
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:28 am
I thought you were pretending to have put me on ignore because of the blacklist thing, which is why you were faking being unable to see my posts. That would be outing because JJJ disabled the ignore function a while back.
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:38 pmNo I'm doing all the right things. I'm interacting with everyone, thinking about players, making free flowing posts.
But what are you doing?
This might be the most individually scummy post I've seen in the thread so far. It's like they see pretending to be town as a list of checkboxes to tick off and are miffed that Seanzie isn't giving them credit for their performance.
Honestly, I agree with this, surface level maybe, but the post in reference does feel real bad. Wouldn't be surprised at all if it's actually Alison/Lucky here.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:55 am
Dizzy avoiding the thread is >rand mafia cmv
I've seen Dizzy afk as villa but he tends to be a lot more upfront about it. He'll be like "I'm not playing this game because I don't have the time and energy and interest. I'll come back when there's less people and try to give a solve". The weird "I'm picking someone random to sheep" thing wasn't great because it's like "I'm not playing this game but actually I am", it's like a paper facade of playing that I don't think he usually bothers with as town. Also doesn't help that the person he picked to sheep was Lunchbox.
This is some real convoluted shit lol. I don't see how I was not upfront about being afk/low effort, or even what there is to read into that if you think I wasn't. Also "paper facade" lol. I also didn't pick Lucky to sheep, I picked Omega.
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These are some things I find scummy in Alison's ISO.
It's not impossible for her to be town, but right now well above > mafia for me.
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:12 pmI didn't want to say it because I felt like it would increase my chances of being yeeted, but now that DOO wagon is up there, we can all acknowledge this.
What do you mean by this?
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:14 pm
Belzy either town or decided to really do something this game. Probably just town tbh
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:17 pm
Me desperately looking for Axe's case on Lucky when it was the other way around rip
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:52 pmSure, I wouldn't bother reading the entire game, skimming one page of his ISO though would be quite illuminating. He was solving/interacting a LOT with people D1 of AtLA. Here he has done essentially no solving. He has a high thread presence here, but most of it has been not related to the game or just bad.
As far as I can tell, Lucky's case on Axe is pretty much exactly this. I don't know Axe, and in general I think it's pretty dangerous to compare one specific game to another for reads. But if you feel strongly about it, I'm not going to disagree. Is it more than just one game?
For me, I think Alison has a pretty good chance of being mafia here. Thoughts on this?
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:22 pm
that's a funny angleshoot, falcon can be town
Conclusion good probably. Angleshoots are rip.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:26 pm
Oh no, I secretly hate when people follow me. I'd rather be right and not followed than wrong and followed. But also, I may just be right. This can happen. This has happened before.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:14 pm
Belzy either town or decided to really do something this game. Probably just town tbh
do something is one way of putting it
What I mean is that I don't think Belzy is a risk taker as scum in the sense that she would deliberately "act weird" as scum, especially on a site where many don't know her well. She's a good scum player and can fake content and tone and all those things, but the sort of "weeeee lolol" seems out of character for her as scum as far as my experience go, and I do have a lot of experience with Belzy. Take it for what it's worth, though I not sure what it's worth lol, but that be my take
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:33 pm
Basen on me reading not a whole lot, but trying to get an overview:
Some maybe town reads:
Belzy
Syn
Falcon
Sean
Honestly my town reads aren't really that strong
Suss:
Alison
If Alison is mafia, check Lucky's end of their interaction. I think Alison's interaction with Lucky is definitely teammate compatible.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:36 pm
Plz no fight, you're probably both town. And antagonising no good. Now kiss
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:35 pmwhy are your town reads only the people who have posted since you entered the thread
Because literally that is what I have read lol
I've explained my town reads except maybe Sean.
Belzy for her tone and kind of off beat play which seems deliberate, and I don't think she deliberately do it as mafia, I'll think she'll try to play it more straight.
Falcon for the same reason you did.
You because you towned Falcon for it, which I don't think you need to as mafia.
Sean because he seemed to be upset about Belzy not contributing. Not too sure about this read though.
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:39 pm
Dizzy/DOO team looks super compatible here. DOO voteparked on me despite having me as a townread, and Dizzy tried to push me after I came out with scumreads on both him and DOO. The case that Dizzy's giving is bad too. I asked if Luck often likes to play wolf because his first post gave me a "hello fellow townies" feeling and I was seeing if it was facetious.The only other read he has an issue with is a bald "that's not a real thought", and an OMGUS against my suspicion on him.
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what's with the naked vote btw?
How does this relevant? My point is you asked if he liked playing as scum when he had already given the answer in thread. Was your accusation that he might've lied?
What is problematic about this? Honest question. This is something I've seen you do as scum before, or rather, it gave me that same feeling.
I don't think it's an OMGUS. I legit didn't understand your point in your read on me. And I don't think it would warrant you to have me on your chop list at all.
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:51 pm
Well I'll vote DoO to save Alison if needed but would prefer looking elsewhere. And think Alison would be a really bad kill.
Maybe not Alison/Lucky then, after I pointed that out and this comes out. Unless 200 iq
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:51 pm
My accusation was that his "I sure hope I randed mafia, aw shucks I didn't!" felt fake. Not many people like randing mafia, so doing a quick fact check on whether this is something he'd say is pretty sensible. Once he clarified his meta a little more with no dissent from the people who know him, I moved on.
Saying "that's not a real thought" isn't problematic by itself; I say it all the time. It's not a particularly convincing aspect of a case, though, and I'm having trouble understanding why you'd grow such a strong conviction of me as scum based on it. What exactly "isn't real" about that thought?
My point is simple. When I see you afk as town you just straight up admit it and brazenly slank because you have nothing to hide. Here you seem to be taking a more wishy washy approach, where you say you're slanking, but also make an excuse to sheep whoever you want with zero accountability.
Alright. Do you expect him or players in general to lie about really obvious things as that as mafia though? Cause that seems kind of dumb to me.
First of all, you don't know my conviction. Again, it's kind of similar to the above point. From what I gathered, you accused (and retracted) Axe of pretending to have put you on ignore, making a bold faced and totally unnecessary lie. Why would mafia make such a lie? Maybe there's something between you two that I don't know about, but that just seems like a made up worry to me.
I really don't see the problem or the difference. How is this an issue? What should I have telegraphed? I was straight up slanking, not knowing if I'd get motivation or not.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:04 pm
Also, do you actually expect that if I'm teamed with Omega, the thing I do is to chainsaw the hell out of you? Cause I don't think I would ever do that.
I fully admit to not having read the whole thread and not having much context though.
But I still think these seems like weird concerns. Like you're overplaying that you "don't know" when in fact, you do know. It's the same feeling I got when you "didn't know" if me and Invictius had played together. Issue being, that it's like you're laying on an extra layer of paranoia/not knowing, and this is what pings me.
3) How is that any different from my normal early slanking?
And why do you correlate me and Omega here?
Literally, I read your ISO and I think you can be mafia. Why does it have to have anything to do with Omega?
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:17 pm
@Luckbox Inc Can you say what your town read on Alison consists of? You said this was your second game with her, and you mis-chopped her last game and seemed worried about that. Is there more? Sorry if I missed it/haven't read.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:46 pm
To the people who town read Alison, why do you town read Alison? I'd like to hear it. And sorry if it's already stated.
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:20 pmNo, I only know Axe from that one game, but like... I think you're not taking into consideration how bad Axe's play is this game. Like, this isn't a meta read, this is a "this slot is active, in thread, but not solving, and not contributing positively to the gamestate" read, coupled with AtLA meta to further strengthen the read.
Also, from the little I know about them, Axe is an extremely anti-team anti-town player, so if they are town, I doubt they would ever be killed by wolves, and I would never want them to be in an FX, so while I know it is early, they need to be yeeted eventually anyways. Strong scum read + getting rid of a slot that is detrimental to town if we're wrong = good wagon.
I will look through Alison's ISO, but I feel fine about Alison right now.
I'm not, cause I haven't read their posts, other than when I've been around. They said they agreed with me, don't know if good or bad. I don't really have an opinion there, and I doubt I'll get it before EoD.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:32 pm
I feel I've made my thoughts on Alison clear, but I also feel the need to say that I'm not actually very clear on the read. I feel like I'm missing a lot of context (which obviously I am). The things I noticed in her ISO was instances where it feels like she's stating train of thoughts that doesn't seem like real concerns to me. I don't know if I can articulate it well, but it's like a "I need to show that I don't know anyone's alignment" kind of feel. I'm not actually married to that read though, as I may be too harsh/stern against her, cause if she is mafia, that's going to be a problem. Also, she seemed better in her back and forth with Omega, better conviction.
Lu Ren wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:38 pm
I'd like to kill in luckbox/nanook/dizzy/tsp? today?
Hi, we haven't played before afaik. What's your thoughts on me?
I don't think you've done anything super towny, and I don't think Esooa voted you for no reason; I don't think you've done anything very mafia-indicative but you're just not up to the bar I'd expect and I have a good deal of strong/decent town reads and you're not one.
Do I know you? What do you expect from me? What does Esooa have to do with your read on me? She also doesn't know me well at all (don't recall if we've even played together)
Lu Ren wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:32 pmI know of you, I know you're a capable player, Esooa feels like checked out town (this is thin), I'm not sheeping her read on there but it's a confirmation that she doesn't think what you've posted has been that strong, I would rather kill people who are either more likely mafia or lower impact but you're not off the table for me like everyone else not in my list is at this point.
Do I know you by another name?
Esooa voted me back when I had two posts total and not really started playing. Why is that vote relevant to you?
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:45 pmMultiple people have expressed concerned with Axe, but you aren't willing to look there, but when you want a CFD away from DoO, you are willing to look at Lu?
Can you help me make sense of this? What is the difference between Axe and Lu here?
Lu justifying their take on me through Esooa gives me the nopes.
I haven't had the nopes with Axe. But again, you're right, haven't even considered them that much. To be blunt, don't think they will be a huge problem if mafia.
Lu Ren wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:48 pmWe've played once before and I know of you somewhat from reputation beyond that.
About Esooa: that's fair, it's not really a huge factor in my thoughts and I didn't remember where it was, I should have checked before including it in reasons why you aren't specifically towny in any respect unlike everybody except the four people I named, either way it doesn't matter, either way setting this day up as alison/doo is exactly what mafia's been hoping for and is very lazy and I would really rather not kill either of them because I think they're both pretty clearly town. Thoughts?
I don't think either is clearly town. Right now, I'm not really stressing that much. Both a mafia and town chop D1 can be good. I don't have a town read (or any read really) on the other people you mention though.
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:32 am
I feel like this thread has been just a wolfy circle jerk for the past couple pages. Dizzy is almost cleared inno child by vote logic, so naturally, they are going to die today.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:17 am
It's a list of five people that I think all three scum are contained in. That's like, the definition of a POE.
Process of Elimination should be a list of people that you're almost positive all of the scum are in, not because they're scummy, but because everyone else is town. Also, process of elimination by definition doesn't require tiers or associative reads.
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:32 am
I feel like this thread has been just a wolfy circle jerk for the past couple pages. Dizzy is almost cleared inno child by vote logic, so naturally, they are going to die today.
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:44 am
I'm not super convinced Dizzy is scum in all honesty. I'd rather go after one of Nanook/Falc/NAA
On the side note, I don't think Falc/NAA are w/w but that's the impression I get as a half-asleep and busy person
I’m not “super convinced” yet but their posts are uninspiring (lots of fluff off topic + Esooa vote concern) so I think it’s a better alternative to Alison
I could see Falcon or NAA being wolf, but I’m not sure I see the case on nanook.
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:32 am
I feel like this thread has been just a wolfy circle jerk for the past couple pages. Dizzy is almost cleared inno child by vote logic, so naturally, they are going to die today.
Can you elaborate on that please?
No
Alright
They are by no means “cleared”. I don’t see how that makes sense and since you are unwilling to explain [VOTE:
NotAnAxehole] aubergine
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:40 am
@MacDougall Nanook sheeps me in most games we play, and in most games we're town we win. So why are you trying to cast shade on that when you should be somewhat aware of how that relationship works / where it comes from.
Like, I get that this isn't my main site and I find it hard to adjust to how town plays here because for the most part.
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:44 am
I'm not super convinced Dizzy is scum in all honesty. I'd rather go after one of Nanook/Falc/NAA
On the side note, I don't think Falc/NAA are w/w but that's the impression I get as a half-asleep and busy person
I’m not “super convinced” yet but their posts are uninspiring (lots of fluff off topic + Esooa vote concern) so I think it’s a better alternative to Alison
I could see Falcon or NAA being wolf, but I’m not sure I see the case on nanook.
Nanook is acting more like the scum game I played with him then the town games.
Limited meta read, but from what I've seen he's more "Friendly unhelpful" when scum, and he reads more that way here with his "sheep" shtick.
That being said, Axe reckons he apparently does that all the time with the two of them, which might make it more NAI than I thought.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
