Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Town Wins)
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
Okay... I'm semi-familiar with Alison, Dolby, HK, mansnicks, and Michelle.
Everybody else is a stranger. Nice to meet you!
Everybody else is a stranger. Nice to meet you!
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
Some of this may be slightly out of order because I tend to jump back and forth by a couple posts while reading.
Townleans:
Dolby
Scumleans:
Falcon
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Dolby
Scumleans:
Falcon
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(That was Page 1)
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Page 2:
Townreads:
mansnicks
Townleans:
Dolby
HK
honey
TH
Scumleans:
Michelle
Seanzie
Scumreads:
Falcon
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Townleans:
Dolby
HK
honey
TH
Scumleans:
Michelle
Seanzie
Scumreads:
Falcon
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Page 3:
Townreads:
mansnicks
TH
Townleans:
Alison
Dolby
HK
honey
Lime Coke
Scumleans:
Flea the Magician
Michelle
Seanzie
Scumreads:
Falcon
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mansnicks
TH
Townleans:
Alison
Dolby
HK
honey
Lime Coke
Scumleans:
Flea the Magician
Michelle
Seanzie
Scumreads:
Falcon
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I proceeded to townread some more of Lime Coke's posts and the way the wagon formed felt too fast. I've liked Alison a lot here and it seems like everyone else does as well.
Townreads:
Alison
Lime Coke
mansnicks
TH
Townleans:
Dolby
HK
honey
Scumleans:
Flea the Magician
Michelle
Seanzie
Scumreads:
Falcon
I had the following questions at this point:
@Flea the Magician - Why shouldn't people vote you for NK immunity?
@honey - Roughly how much experience do you have playing as each alignment?
@Alison - Why do you feel that falcon is town?
@TripleHaven - Where is your townread on honey coming from in #88?
@Lime Coke - Roughly how much experience do you have playing as each alignment?
@Michelle - Do you feel engaged in this game?
@Alison - Isn't it a little hasty to only give the thread an hour before declaring that nobody has picked up on your read?
@Seanzie - Why are Falcon and Lime Coke paired in your book?
Townreads:
Alison
Lime Coke
mansnicks
TH
Townleans:
Dolby
HK
honey
Scumleans:
Flea the Magician
Michelle
Seanzie
Scumreads:
Falcon
I had the following questions at this point:
@Flea the Magician - Why shouldn't people vote you for NK immunity?
@honey - Roughly how much experience do you have playing as each alignment?
@Alison - Why do you feel that falcon is town?
@TripleHaven - Where is your townread on honey coming from in #88?
@Lime Coke - Roughly how much experience do you have playing as each alignment?
@Michelle - Do you feel engaged in this game?
@Alison - Isn't it a little hasty to only give the thread an hour before declaring that nobody has picked up on your read?
@Seanzie - Why are Falcon and Lime Coke paired in your book?
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
Out of the three people who quoted me asking for scumreads, Scotty felt a little questionable, like they were trying to use the question as a springboard for a miselim. I'mma start on ISOing them first, followed by anyone else on whom I don't yet have a read.
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EBWOP: Asking for townreads, not scumreads.osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:40 am Out of the three people who quoted me asking for townreads, Scotty felt a little questionable, like they were trying to use the question as a springboard for a miselim. I'mma start on ISOing them first, followed by anyone else on whom I don't yet have a read.
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I would tend to think that Seanzie is town based on that very silly comment. I don't think that he's really going to disappear for three days, lol.
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Figures.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:39 pmnopemansnicks wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:26 pmi woudn't mind if you made your reasonings clear so that the other players can follow you tbh.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:23 pm I'd be super thrilled to kill honey, mansnicks, and TH today
Wouldn't care about dolby probably
I'd defend michelle, falcon, seanzie![]()
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Yeah.. so I think I got a read on hollowkatt.
In my opinion, his entire play can be well explained by cognitive dissonance.
First, his scumread on me is based ignorance regarding different playstyle than his. [he is town so everyone who's different is not]
Secondly, his other reads are there to affirm his world view.
That fits perfectly. Ofc nothing's guaranteed but the way it fits so well in my mind makes him Town for me. The only pause I have in this is because I think I remember him being more of a cognitive player than a gut player.
However. The same reasoning/assumption for why I townread him is also why I won't vote him for the night immunity. Because such a strong mechanic shouldn't be wasted and I want to dedicate it towards someone who I think can carry me to victory so I can get those cards!

On a different note, I asked myself if there is someone here whom I too read unfairly based on ignorance. I think that's the case for falcon. I dismiss my previous reasons for scumreading falcon, but having said that - there is really nothing towny about falcon other than people claiming that he is in his town meta.
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
I think that Alison is fine. Also, I had the exact same reaction to #60 before I realized there was a spoiler therehoney wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:57 amthey simp, i simp, we all simp together uwu
i thought lime and th's motives were pure so i tred them for defending me
i will be adding stuff from my iso to referencereal talk i didnt self vote for immune because w the heat i was getting when i voted i didnt think i'd be a good n1 save cos i think mafia would keep me to be ml'ed but then i broke out the 'i've only been ml'ed once before' and the last game i did that in i was nightkilled right after i'm generally selfless and self-sacrificing for the greater good but if i towntell so much i'm clear of ml bait and i become a huge asset to the town and threat to maf today i'll want to be saved i'm just not there yetSpoiler: show
also my role might be so OP and amazing i need to be in this gameSpoiler: showbye
i alr said her push on me was incredibly weak i'll just pull the development and my thoughts from my isoSpoiler: showi have no meta on alison but idk i want to feel like they'd be more involved if town?Spoiler: showalso i found someone else in my iso i dont like and am all 4 their wagon tooSpoiler: show
aw man mac i was kinda vibing w dolby : |Spoiler: show
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Whack takeScotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:52 amYea I don’t suspect him in a large capacity because I agree that he does this every d1. But I’m not calling him town for it.
Top townread? Probably honey- not because of the content of her posts, but the content of her character.
Hollowkatt seems to be a town voice.
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Mansnicks, let’s say that immunity voting ends in 15 minutes. Who you voting on that? How do you feel about Alison
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If you want the @'s to work, you need to start typing the persons name, and then wait a second, and a dropdown menu will appear and when you select their name it will actually ping them.osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:34 am I proceeded to townread some more of Lime Coke's posts and the way the wagon formed felt too fast. I've liked Alison a lot here and it seems like everyone else does as well.
Townreads:
Alison
Lime Coke
mansnicks
TH
Townleans:
Dolby
HK
honey
Scumleans:
Flea the Magician
Michelle
Seanzie
Scumreads:
Falcon
I had the following questions at this point:
@Flea the Magician - Why shouldn't people vote you for NK immunity?
@honey - Roughly how much experience do you have playing as each alignment?
@Alison - Why do you feel that falcon is town?
@TripleHaven - Where is your townread on honey coming from in #88?
@Lime Coke - Roughly how much experience do you have playing as each alignment?
@Michelle - Do you feel engaged in this game?
@Alison - Isn't it a little hasty to only give the thread an hour before declaring that nobody has picked up on your read?
@Seanzie - Why are Falcon and Lime Coke paired in your book?
They had an awkward early reaction that I thought looked like Falcon was distancing after Alison shaded Lime Coke. Then it seemed like after I commented on it, Falcon/Lime Coke interactions intensified in a way that looked theatrical, but fair warning, that's also about when I started to not want to read everything, so here I am.
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
#47Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:33 pm I didn't like #60 from honey. Tone was contrived, and felt a little out of place and uncomfortable. #47 is kinda LAMIST, and also doesn't make sense as an opener if you're baiting a soup kill. (If you're baiting a soup kill, you want mafia to think that you forgot about the soup kill and are carelessly outing your role.)
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Tbh honey feels tonally the most pure to me for some reason.
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I had gone through their early posts and not liked them; they felt awkward and focused on anything other than forming reads. As I said earlier, they feel "like they're trying to force things and appear more active than they actually are."Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:44 am
Could you explain to me why falcon looks so scummy to you?
They were playing defense a lot as well, not a good look.
The best posts from them have had this cheekiness to their tone that undercuts any sense that those posts might come from town.
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falcon, I think that you're having fun, but it's not helping your game. I am no longer convinced that you are town. Could you show me some of that GOAT and tell me a few people that you are town reading and a few people that you are scum reading?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:15 pm Hello everybody!
I have 2 roles this game; JOAT & GOAT
Tom Brady ain't got sheeeeet on me
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Osie’s catchup series of posts is good and I like them, though I don’t like some individual thoughts, mostly wrt to page 1 (ex: Seanzie wagon forming to fast, no scumread as from me is bad (I left on something like post 35))
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After I asked you that question, I noticed that other people were scum reading them, too. So I ISOed them and found that they were having fun but they weren't doing very much of anything that I would call towny. In your opinion, are you seeing them as actual scum or as a town player who is playing it scummy?osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:51 amI had gone through their early posts and not liked them; they felt awkward and focused on anything other than forming reads. As I said earlier, they feel "like they're trying to force things and appear more active than they actually are."Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:44 am
Could you explain to me why falcon looks so scummy to you?
They were playing defense a lot as well, not a good look.
The best posts from them have had this cheekiness to their tone that undercuts any sense that those posts might come from town.
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Did not mean to post that yet. I also wanted to say that pushing Lime to top tier is kinda ??? And I wanted to see more on it
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Haha, that's funny. You must have been really fierce in your powerwolf game! I would have liked to have seen that!EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:06 amLmao. I'd like to say you're wrong but I have done that. I have a famous bus game back in the old days tho.Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:43 amI've never seen Ender wolf but based on what I know of his personality and town play I am inclined to think he would be a powerwolf who openly defended teammates and attacked townies if he randed wolf.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:26 amPossible also. I feel like it's a little on the nose though.Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:07 amTalk to me about this? I think they look compatible as partners if anything.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:53 pm
hard to say, i think Lime has potential to be spewed town here by Ender tbh
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no fun.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:37 pmvery small amount
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I have notified our host, but so peeps here are aware I'm Limited Access currently.
I have a chronic pain condition which has flared up, and resulted in me having to take double-signed-off medications to relieve.
I will be out of it.
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Ugh. I hope that you feel better soon!Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:09 am I have notified our host, but so peeps here are aware I'm Limited Access currently.
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
Because it's a waste of immunity, anyone who knows me knows I'm a beast on mechanics and there's where my threat is.
This game everyone is a JOAT, mechanics mean nothing. Meaning I'm no threat here.
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I just have super few townpings there, reading through their ISO. Like, I can force maybe 2 townpings. And they do seem to have some degree of thread voice even if they aren't necessarily the MOST active player in the thread.Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:54 amAfter I asked you that question, I noticed that other people were scum reading them, too. So I ISOed them and found that they were having fun but they weren't doing very much of anything that I would call towny. In your opinion, are you seeing them as actual scum or as a town player who is playing it scummy?osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:51 amI had gone through their early posts and not liked them; they felt awkward and focused on anything other than forming reads. As I said earlier, they feel "like they're trying to force things and appear more active than they actually are."Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:44 am
Could you explain to me why falcon looks so scummy to you?
They were playing defense a lot as well, not a good look.
The best posts from them have had this cheekiness to their tone that undercuts any sense that those posts might come from town.
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true enough. It was a wacky ISO. But they do have presence in the thread and I don't know if a scum player would want to get attention for wacky posts. So I have mixed feelings where they are concerned.osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:19 amI just have super few townpings there, reading through their ISO. Like, I can force maybe 2 townpings. And they do seem to have some degree of thread voice even if they aren't necessarily the MOST active player in the thread.Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:54 amAfter I asked you that question, I noticed that other people were scum reading them, too. So I ISOed them and found that they were having fun but they weren't doing very much of anything that I would call towny. In your opinion, are you seeing them as actual scum or as a town player who is playing it scummy?osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:51 amI had gone through their early posts and not liked them; they felt awkward and focused on anything other than forming reads. As I said earlier, they feel "like they're trying to force things and appear more active than they actually are."Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:44 am
Could you explain to me why falcon looks so scummy to you?
They were playing defense a lot as well, not a good look.
The best posts from them have had this cheekiness to their tone that undercuts any sense that those posts might come from town.
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Ok maybe I should do something
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I'm not mad at you creature, just deeply disappointed.
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There goes my wet dream of being NKed N1
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Sorry for your wolf rand
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Is it because his reads contrast yours or because of his "this thread is hard to read"?
Those are the only things by him that happend before this post of yours imho.
I could get behind the "the thread is hard to read" reason I think.

But I hope there's more.
@Seanzie you called these guys w/w mates for this interaction. why?
How does that first question have anything to do with what Seanzie said?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:22 pmso Alison is the one Falcon is trying to pocket there? Was Falcon vocally suspicious of Lime Coke before Alison started talking about Lime?
Why are you asking **him** that 2nd question?
Not to dismiss the validity of that 2nd question, but that question is a leading question.
I feel like if you want to scumhunt then there's less sketchy ways to point out something that with leading questions.

Since you didn't address (in this post anyway) anything that seanzie said, but instead trying to convince him of your idea - I take it that for you Seanzie is a strong Townread? Because otherwise this post makes little sense.
If he is indeed - would be too much to ask for you to elaborate why you townread Seanzie?
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yeah, sucks to get got early. Oh well, maybe next game
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
nope. Here's my pro tip though: Read for comprehentionmansnicks wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:37 amHow does that first question have anything to do with what Seanzie said?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:22 pmso Alison is the one Falcon is trying to pocket there? Was Falcon vocally suspicious of Lime Coke before Alison started talking about Lime?
Why are you asking **him** that 2nd question?
Not to dismiss the validity of that 2nd question, but that question is a leading question.
I feel like if you want to scumhunt then there's less sketchy ways to point out something that with leading questions.
Since you didn't address (in this post anyway) anything that seanzie said, but instead trying to convince him of your idea - I take it that for you Seanzie is a strong Townread? Because otherwise this post makes little sense.
If he is indeed - would be too much to ask for you to elaborate why you townread Seanzie?
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Clearly because I thought they were W/W based on their interactions.mansnicks wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:37 amIs it because his reads contrast yours or because of his "this thread is hard to read"?
Those are the only things by him that happend before this post of yours imho.
I could get behind the "the thread is hard to read" reason I think.
But I hope there's more.
@Seanzie you called these guys w/w mates for this interaction. why?
How does that first question have anything to do with what Seanzie said?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:22 pmso Alison is the one Falcon is trying to pocket there? Was Falcon vocally suspicious of Lime Coke before Alison started talking about Lime?
Why are you asking **him** that 2nd question?
Not to dismiss the validity of that 2nd question, but that question is a leading question.
I feel like if you want to scumhunt then there's less sketchy ways to point out something that with leading questions.
Since you didn't address (in this post anyway) anything that seanzie said, but instead trying to convince him of your idea - I take it that for you Seanzie is a strong Townread? Because otherwise this post makes little sense.
If he is indeed - would be too much to ask for you to elaborate why you townread Seanzie?
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the sun (a minor miracle) and this game! Let's catch some wicked scums!!! Who are you currently reading as scum?
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Hi everyone, I'm low activity the rest of rl today, will be able to play more tomorrow and moving forward
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mansnicks, honey, lime are the ones that are sticking out to me as scum. Mostly not caring though b/c finding town is betterGarden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:59 amthe sun (a minor miracle) and this game! Let's catch some wicked scums!!! Who are you currently reading as scum?
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Um, Gnome, you DO realize that LoMo has made exactly one post in this game, and it's not a red check on me?Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:01 pmOooh, that exciting. And it's even more exciting than me asking a scum for scum reads? LOL.
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You had to check?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:05 pmUm, Gnome, you DO realize that LoMo has made exactly one post in this game, and it's not a red check on me?Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:01 pmOooh, that exciting. And it's even more exciting than me asking a scum for scum reads? LOL.
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I checked when you said LoMo had a red on me b/c I didn't remember LoMo posting at all. So I thought maybe that was in the posts I didn't read from overnight.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:06 pmYou had to check?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:05 pmUm, Gnome, you DO realize that LoMo has made exactly one post in this game, and it's not a red check on me?Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:01 pmOooh, that exciting. And it's even more exciting than me asking a scum for scum reads? LOL.
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