Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Town Wins)
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I think osie is town michelle might be town, i did like mac try harding and being all fazed by me a couple pages ago limecoke will self solve i think trust this if i get k*lled
th is falling off radar but still not scummy vibes yet?
I cant see how many posts i have on mobile and i dont wanna go over so gl & gn pals
th is falling off radar but still not scummy vibes yet?
I cant see how many posts i have on mobile and i dont wanna go over so gl & gn pals

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This post is both hilarious and erroneous; LoMo always gives reads, the quality and calibre may change, but he does make reads as t or wMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:43 pmthe part where he made reads at allfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:24 pmSo what did you see that was "good and thoughtful" in his posts?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:35 pmI saw no opinions that were jarringly bad nor did I see any awkwardness.osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:34 pmReally? I got very little from their ISO outside of a bit of a scumlean between the low content and the fact that everything looks like an attempt to make a hot take without necessarily engaging.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:27 pmI read his iso. He has good and thoughtful posts.
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Sounds like we agree on the principle of VK the low posters, save their lynch for later roundsEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:30 amWolves might be in the low posters. But if we go after low posters it gives low content vote-counts and we can't analyse it later.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:29 pmAre you of the opinion that there aren't wolves in the low posters?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:42 pmYou're now tied first. I made shit all up with regards to you being a viable counterwagon. The fact that you're acting like those three votes on you mean nothing is exactly why I'm really wondering.
And I hate "Kill the low posters" as an assessment.
Many low posters (Creature notably) resolve themselves when given time.
Other low posters can be good targets for anyone on town with a kill or investigative power.
Town wins by creating and utilizing information in thread. By going after the low posters you're providing scum with an easy vote that has low impact, and not only that, they can easily push towards town in the low posters with little accountability and no way for anyone to call them on picking that person. It's bad or worse, take your pick.
Given that we're playing a JOAT game, seems like a VK in the low posters isn't out of the question. Any that you'd kill if you had a vigilante kill?
As for targets, I'd be okay with any of the low posters tbh. Though I have ascummy-ish thought on listo
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IIRC, you've been barely playing?Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:12 amI’d probably vote him without reading his ISO
[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine
If you're town, this is a lousy post. If you're a wolf, this is a lousy post
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Honey is probably town, her posts seem okay.
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Yes.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:37 amSounds like we agree on the principle of VK the low posters, save their lynch for later roundsEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:30 amWolves might be in the low posters. But if we go after low posters it gives low content vote-counts and we can't analyse it later.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:29 pmAre you of the opinion that there aren't wolves in the low posters?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:42 pmYou're now tied first. I made shit all up with regards to you being a viable counterwagon. The fact that you're acting like those three votes on you mean nothing is exactly why I'm really wondering.
And I hate "Kill the low posters" as an assessment.
Many low posters (Creature notably) resolve themselves when given time.
Other low posters can be good targets for anyone on town with a kill or investigative power.
Town wins by creating and utilizing information in thread. By going after the low posters you're providing scum with an easy vote that has low impact, and not only that, they can easily push towards town in the low posters with little accountability and no way for anyone to call them on picking that person. It's bad or worse, take your pick.
Given that we're playing a JOAT game, seems like a VK in the low posters isn't out of the question. Any that you'd kill if you had a vigilante kill?
As for targets, I'd be okay with any of the low posters tbh. Though I have ascummy-ish thought on listo
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When do you sound so reasonable.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
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Other than alison, who do you think is scum and who do you have as town?honey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:05 pmwell i asked why ppl tr alison and nobody replied and i have a suspicion ppl are just tring her because they like her posts as she gives some reads rather than what shes actually doing which is not much i dont think all of these are scum but 100% at least one scum in here because of the lack of logicosieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:03 pmInteresting.honey wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:01 pm you think that since i'm not a newbie player i could be playing like this as scum? is there a compliment in there somewhere..
i read people off motivations personally and so when my scum pool is mans hollow alison adding mac now it's because i do not think their intentions for scumreading me are not pure once again none have outted a concise scumread on me
mac wants me to stop posting but then doesnt post or push on me himself when i threaten to bleed on him
alison only scum read me off a few posts and then even when she opens her scope she sees reasons to tr me but then manages to contrive some tone from somewhere
hollow calls me scum but wont actually push on me or fight me 1 on 1
mansnicks calls me a liar when i made a joke reaction test and then 20 hours later says im his top town tonally
like fr?? and that's on town entitlement~
Very much the opposite of my reads.
hollow wont fight me and ppl said hes in his town meta so im not focusing on reading his slot
mansnicks is afk and i prefer to interact in real time
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ok how's it going now
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alison's like not /super/ town but definitely on the townier side of it
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falcon's town too but I think that was obvious a while ago
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Your scum read on me has weakened? You sound like you're fine voting me, but others aren't on board...how is that a softening read?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:17 amKinda scum.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:26 pmDo you think I'm the type of player who responds to vote pressure? Were you voting me just to get pressure reactions, or do you think I'm scum?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:49 pm Since no one is pressuring Falcon with me:
[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine
Because weird push on me and honestly best counterwagon.
HK's irritability feels v to me.
It's weaker though.
Your scum conviction seems based on popular opinion. Tell me, if my wagon had 5 right now, you gonna jump on the trolley?
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Explain
Otoh i have you as wolf read, so it's a logical thing you'd do as either AI
Creature can post genuine and complain for lack of motivation as wolf. Equalising his wolf meta with his town meta on site is easyEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:50 pmCreature has lack of content in every game on here I've played with him.Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:29 pmI expect reads, not shades. Your post pinged me hard because we have no history and we didn't interact at all, and the wording was wishy-washySeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:15 pm
Yes, I am not sure about my read. Should I be? If it isn't clear, it was a scumlean on you.
It isn't a waste of a post for me to express how I feel about a slot in the game. Do you expect no one to voice scumreads?
Why are you quoting a ton of posts but not actually doing anything with them/talking about them?
For eg my suspicion on Creature is based on meta of multiple games and his lack of content in this game.
I just want to keep those posts in my Iso for later in the game, if i am alive i iso myself to see what i found interesting in day 1- this is a day to obtain infos.
Can you post some reads? a list would be enough.
I have more than 3 games experience as both alignaments, so your meta is incomplete
You know Creature is town?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:59 pmCreature slanking and doing shit all is NAI for him. Please stop wasting early ml on Creature, he resolves later just fine and we can actually catch people D1 instead of lynching a slanker who resolves later.

Why are you telling us your startegy if you're wolf?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:07 pm seanzie, why would I bother pocketing you?
You don't have thread presence, you aren't widely town read, and you're not making pushes that anyone jibes with.
If I'm wolfing here the best strategy is just ignore you.
I find this reaction wolfyScotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:55 pmNice no uEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:49 pm Since no one is pressuring Falcon with me:
[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine
Because weird push on me and honestly best counterwagon.
HK's irritability feels v to me.
“Best counterwagon”
That counterwagon’s a lemon and won’t drive you up the hill my man.

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This is wolfy. Perhaps not a wolf, but a potential town voice?Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:07 pmEBWOP: if HK is NOT a wolf, why lose a potential town voice?Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:06 pm I’d hazard a guess that at least 2-3 mafia are in the low posters. Just enough to skate by.
Listo? Lomo? Triple? Even nook. Even if hollowkatt, one of the other wagons, is a wolf, he’s at least put forth a ton of content.
I know quantity of content = / = town, but it gives town more ammo to use down the line.
Someone like listo? Gonna have to figure that one out later when they’re a big ole question mark.
Why not move to, like, them today? Can anyone refute this argument? Or at least give me reasons not to go that route?
OK
Right arm
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Wolf read yourself!Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:10 pmDid you actually wolf read yourself here or is it a joke???MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:12 pm 1. @lost monkey ISO - lean wolf
2. @MacDougall ISO - strong wolf
3. @falcon45ca ISO - lean town
4. @hollowkatt ISO - lean town
5. @Lime Coke ISO - lean town
6. @Flea the Magician ISO - lean town
7. @ NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME ISO - lean town
8. @Alison ISO - strong town
9. @Michelle ISO - strong town
10. @EnderWiggin ISO - lean wolf
11. @TripleHaven ISO - lean town
12. @Dolby ISO - lean wolf
13. @Scotty ISO - lean wolf
14. @Garden Gnome ISO - lean wolf
15. @honey ISO - lean town
16. @Creature ISO - lean town
17. @Seanzie ISO - strong town
18. @listo95 ISO - lean town
19. @mansnicks ISO - lean town
20. @TonyStarkPrime ISO - lean town
21. @osieorb18 ISO - strong town
you gonna follow up with that, or what?
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Scotty, Gnome, HK
Lynch or shoot in this pool plz.
Low posters also solid VK shots IMO, anyone less than 20 IMO
Lynch or shoot in this pool plz.
Low posters also solid VK shots IMO, anyone less than 20 IMO
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I like this reasoningEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:42 pmYou're now tied first. I made shit all up with regards to you being a viable counterwagon. The fact that you're acting like those three votes on you mean nothing is exactly why I'm really wondering.
And I hate "Kill the low posters" as an assessment.
Many low posters (Creature notably) resolve themselves when given time.
Other low posters can be good targets for anyone on town with a kill or investigative power.
Town wins by creating and utilizing information in thread. By going after the low posters you're providing scum with an easy vote that has low impact, and not only that, they can easily push towards town in the low posters with little accountability and no way for anyone to call them on picking that person. It's bad or worse, take your pick.
You put yourself as bottom scum..EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:23 amTowny:
Lime Coke
Honey
Garden Gnome
Lightly towny:
HK
Dolby
osieorb
Flea
Seanzie
Deep Wolves: (Kinda towny but they have good earlygames as wolves)
Alison
Mac
IDK pile:
Creature
Nanook
LoMo
TripleHaven
TSP
Lightly scummy:
Michelle
listo95
Scummier:
Falcon
Mansnicks
Scotty
EnderWiggin

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You have 87 posts, go to first page, go to your Iso and in top you have the post numberhoney wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:28 am I think osie is town michelle might be town, i did like mac try harding and being all fazed by me a couple pages ago limecoke will self solve i think trust this if i get k*lled
th is falling off radar but still not scummy vibes yet?
I cant see how many posts i have on mobile and i dont wanna go over so gl & gn pals
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This is true. Always have good town reads regardless of alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:35 amThis post is both hilarious and erroneous; LoMo always gives reads, the quality and calibre may change, but he does make reads as t or wMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:43 pmthe part where he made reads at allfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:24 pmSo what did you see that was "good and thoughtful" in his posts?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:35 pmI saw no opinions that were jarringly bad nor did I see any awkwardness.osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:34 pmReally? I got very little from their ISO outside of a bit of a scumlean between the low content and the fact that everything looks like an attempt to make a hot take without necessarily engaging.
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I wouldn't go that far, I've def seen you as TP read other TP accurately, and SR others (myself) who were town.lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:38 amThis is true. Always have good town reads regardless of alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:35 amThis post is both hilarious and erroneous; LoMo always gives reads, the quality and calibre may change, but he does make reads as t or wMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:43 pmthe part where he made reads at allfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:24 pmSo what did you see that was "good and thoughtful" in his posts?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:35 pmI saw no opinions that were jarringly bad nor did I see any awkwardness.
You surely don't think all your TR when you're TP are accurate, do you?
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I'm going to pass out now, I will do my best to get back before EoD and do a quick skim/read and move my vote.
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Probably.honey wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:25 amHmm i dont normally get irritating? Usually it’s charming, clever, and friendly so yeah its probably a u thingMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:32 pmYes we aren't.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:57 pmYou and I are really not vibing this game.
There are too many Honey simps but she's probably town.
But I am town reading honey. That was a momentary flicker of irritation that inspired me to make a probably bad read.![]()
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You misunderstood me. I am saying the things that were good and thoughtful was the part where he gave reads. Not THAT he gave reads. Which would make no sense. You wolfy fuck.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:35 amThis post is both hilarious and erroneous; LoMo always gives reads, the quality and calibre may change, but he does make reads as t or wMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:43 pmthe part where he made reads at allfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:24 pmSo what did you see that was "good and thoughtful" in his posts?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:35 pmI saw no opinions that were jarringly bad nor did I see any awkwardness.osieorb18 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:34 pmReally? I got very little from their ISO outside of a bit of a scumlean between the low content and the fact that everything looks like an attempt to make a hot take without necessarily engaging.
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That's why I said goodfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:46 amI wouldn't go that far, I've def seen you as TP read other TP accurately, and SR others (myself) who were town.lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:38 amThis is true. Always have good town reads regardless of alignment.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:35 amThis post is both hilarious and erroneous; LoMo always gives reads, the quality and calibre may change, but he does make reads as t or wMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:43 pmthe part where he made reads at allfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:24 pmSo what did you see that was "good and thoughtful" in his posts?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:35 pmI saw no opinions that were jarringly bad nor did I see any awkwardness.
You surely don't think all your TR when you're TP are accurate, do you?
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
No? I've literally been campaigning against voting the low-posters as a whole?
Voting in low posters even if we hit a wolf is not as valuable if we keep votes within active users.
As for the scum read, you seem to make assumptions about things and dismiss other people's opinions (like my Creature approach) which pings really off to me.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
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I taught Mac to do that. It's great.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
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Honestly re-reading Michelle she's not as bad as I thought, I just didn't like the way she approached dismissing some things.
Pushed up to light town.
Pushed up to light town.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
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MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:52 pmth prob town
These 2 posts are less than 1 minute apart, yet they make the same conclusion/read for 2 conflicting posts/reads.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:52 pmconfirming hollowkatt is townhollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:18 pmwow I hard disagree with both of those
What makes them town?
This thoughts process be like

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I could see it a possibility with wrt listo.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:42 pmthis probly wolflisto95 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:21 amSo that must mean you clearly want us to vote you for the yeet right?Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:20 am Side note, I highly recommend NOT voting me for NK immunity.
hk and Dolby town
Seanzie Alison sus
But why did you call Dolby towny at this point?
He had a handful of posts and did only 2 things:
-call hk towny.
-that awkward #8 which looks like a weak pocket attempt.
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I wanna say that Mac's reads are a little on the random side for me tbh.
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:21 pmMeh, I've been called worse by betterLime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:20 pmOr you're just an idiot that's coming up with excuses to scumread me instead of using actual fucking logic.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:18 pmWell, if you don't townread her, I'd say her reasons for trying to get you killed would be obvious (if you're town).Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:15 pmYes? Why else would I be asking "Why am I sus?"falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:07 pmWhat exactly is your goal asking Alison why they find you suspicious? Do you seek to change their mind?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:01 pmWhen she voted me I ignored and and went on. The she literally mentioned me a second time, and said "there's no momentum on this wagon" after like...10 minutes? Why would I not just ask why while I'm here posting?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:58 pm
IME, player's who are overly concerned about why they're seen as suspicious come from a wolf mindset, especially when it's the first mention of them being sus.
Most of the time town aren't that concerned about being seen as suspicious by 1 player, they just go about their game and carry on. Perhaps if the sus keeps building from other players they'll react, but off 1 player? Not so much. Wolves on the other hand are often worried about being seen as sus
Am I supposed to ignore it? The fuck kind of logic is that?
It also feels like your treating her slot as town suspecting you....why are you assuming she's town?
I don't townread her currently I'm trying to figure out why she's trying to get me out. Typically I can tell if my entrance or first couple posts are good or not.
Main example here.
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I was Mystery Player, I knew my posts sucked to start and when SPF voted me I agreed my posts sucked, and I knew that I'd be obvious town to SPF because I know that she's good.
This game I feel like my posts have been fine. So seeing votes on me has me questioning why the hell I'm being voted and people are trying to bring attention to me when I'm towny.
Also the other thing is that I'm trying to figure out how or why she's pushing me. Lately I've been tunneling town players for sus'ing me super early in games for no reason. So I don't want to make that same mistake here.
TBH this post reads like a frustrated wolf who feels their game has been more towny than their votes deserve
I can agree to this tbh.
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
I agree, making out a joke opener in (in RVS nontheless) to be a big deal bad thing only stirs unnecessary confusion into town because it's not like it has any credibility to begin with. Objectively that's open-wolfing territory.honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:54 pm*SCREAM* yeah n0 not being a thing made it obvious that i was joking!!!!!!!hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:53 pmHi, we haven't met yet I don't think.honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:06 pm i think that hollowkatt's uhh shade at my slot was the worst and i also dont get their confidence on listing like 4 people they would be fine with killing today (and me being one of them when i know they're wrong is not ok to me) so that's why i voted them for now
A few things to help you understand me:
1. N0 is never a thing, stop doing it it's bad and dumb
2. Townies shouldn't lie to other townies, don't do that either it's bad.
3. FPS is bad, stop doing it.
4. Self-voting is bad, don't do it.
5. I like killing people and strongly prefer hard reads over weasel reads. I might be wrong but dammit I'm gonna be wrong with conviction
I still kinda go with my previous read on HK; in that he's all cognitive dissonance and only sees reads that affirm his world view. Because, in my opinion, a wolf would make more sense unless purposefully openwolfing.
Literally both explanations fit his play perfectly.
If someone could say which of these fits HK's meta more, that'd be great:
-openwolfing as wolf.
-easily susceptible to tunnel and confirmation bias as town whilst unable to take a joke.
Occams Razor says the former is more likely to be true, but such heavy openwolfers are a rare breed imho.
What does his meta say?
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Looking at the 12 posts that Seanzie had until that point - he and hk were both empowering each other.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:05 pm Seanzie
tsp
honey
Alison
th
hk
these are all town. get on this wavelength.
Now I see Mac is doing the same for them both.
I now officially call mac-seanzie-hk the "dumb trio" - I expect the possibility of there being 2 wolves there "pocketing" the 3rd. OR Town is doomed.

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Coloured text: I like this approach, about game theory/generalities you posted similar thoughts with mine.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:52 amNo? I've literally been campaigning against voting the low-posters as a whole?
Voting in low posters even if we hit a wolf is not as valuable if we keep votes within active users.
As for the scum read, you seem to make assumptions about things and dismiss other people's opinions (like my Creature approach) which pings really off to me.
About my assumptions, I usually don't sheep other reads in games, especially from people i don't know, and i post things to receive answers. This is how I form reads
Your Creature approach is correct for day 1 and if you notice, i didn't vote him because i don't want him dead today. Anyway, if he is villager, a townie who doesn't post is a very bad presence for the game because if he can make it to lylo is the designated ML by the wolves.
Still, i don't enjoy policy eliminations so I hope Creature will find his Wim, maybe somewhere in the glorious wolf win he had in Jaleb's 3/21 at MU.
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Meta says that both are valid regarding HKmansnicks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:30 amI agree, making out a joke opener in (in RVS nontheless) to be a big deal bad thing only stirs unnecessary confusion into town because it's not like it has any credibility to begin with. Objectively that's open-wolfing territory.honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:54 pm*SCREAM* yeah n0 not being a thing made it obvious that i was joking!!!!!!!hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:53 pmHi, we haven't met yet I don't think.honey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:06 pm i think that hollowkatt's uhh shade at my slot was the worst and i also dont get their confidence on listing like 4 people they would be fine with killing today (and me being one of them when i know they're wrong is not ok to me) so that's why i voted them for now
A few things to help you understand me:
1. N0 is never a thing, stop doing it it's bad and dumb
2. Townies shouldn't lie to other townies, don't do that either it's bad.
3. FPS is bad, stop doing it.
4. Self-voting is bad, don't do it.
5. I like killing people and strongly prefer hard reads over weasel reads. I might be wrong but dammit I'm gonna be wrong with conviction
I still kinda go with my previous read on HK; in that he's all cognitive dissonance and only sees reads that affirm his world view. Because, in my opinion, a wolf would make more sense unless purposefully openwolfing.
Literally both explanations fit his play perfectly.
If someone could say which of these fits HK's meta more, that'd be great:
-openwolfing as wolf.
-easily susceptible to tunnel and confirmation bias as town whilst unable to take a joke.
Occams Razor says the former is more likely to be true, but such heavy openwolfers are a rare breed imho.
What does his meta say?
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About day 1 wagons, the silence around them is concerning, if Scotty is wolf his mates are sleeping without much care.
I would say we can't hit a wolf (probably) by voting the top wagons, but being very early in the morning in US this is a weaker take than usual.
I can bet its at least one wolf in the no voters
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
Mac townreads alison for similar read on lime to his while ender scumreads alison for opposite read on lime to his. Similarly Mac started distrusting Ender after starting having differences in their reads.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:12 pmshe is locktownEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:11 pmSo I've hard-disliked 2 of your takes so far, good start.
I feel very dumb for saying this; but I think this is town indicative for both of them.



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That scotty wagon is so terrible lol.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:47 amAbout day 1 wagons, the silence around them is concerning, if Scotty is wolf his mates are sleeping without much care.
I would say we can't hit a wolf (probably) by voting the top wagons, but being very early in the morning in US this is a weaker take than usual.
I can bet its at least one wolf in the no voters
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
I'm one of the best mafia players in the world. Hold your tongue rock ape.mansnicks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:39 amLooking at the 12 posts that Seanzie had until that point - he and hk were both empowering each other.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:05 pm Seanzie
tsp
honey
Alison
th
hk
these are all town. get on this wavelength.
Now I see Mac is doing the same for them both.
I now officially call mac-seanzie-hk the "dumb trio" - I expect the possibility of there being 2 wolves there "pocketing" the 3rd. OR Town is doomed.![]()
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
[VOTE:
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I havent read. just going on my strongest gut rn.
I havent read. just going on my strongest gut rn.
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Isn't Eod in 2 hours?
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I literally cannot even.Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:53 am [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine
I havent read. just going on my strongest gut rn.
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We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
If you couldn't vote Dolby or the top wagons, who would you vote?mansnicks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:51 amThat scotty wagon is so terrible lol.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:47 amAbout day 1 wagons, the silence around them is concerning, if Scotty is wolf his mates are sleeping without much care.
I would say we can't hit a wolf (probably) by voting the top wagons, but being very early in the morning in US this is a weaker take than usual.
I can bet its at least one wolf in the no voters
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
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listo has had 2 posts where he hasn't talked exclusively about himself - and both those posts have been suspicious to some people.
The way I see it, 100% of that slot's content is scum indicative? Because the other 83% of his posts were justifying himself.
Don't get me wrong, he might as well be overwhelmed town. But objectively that slot is just wolfy.
I know that all players are biased in the sense that lynching a slot like that feels lazy and like not playing the game.
But I hope people will consider this lynch.
[VOTE: Listo95] aubergine
The way I see it, 100% of that slot's content is scum indicative? Because the other 83% of his posts were justifying himself.
Don't get me wrong, he might as well be overwhelmed town. But objectively that slot is just wolfy.
I know that all players are biased in the sense that lynching a slot like that feels lazy and like not playing the game.
But I hope people will consider this lynch.
[VOTE: Listo95] aubergine
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Thanks
Looks like i have time for working a little and i'll be back in 2 hours or so
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Of those 3 if forced? hk.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:02 amIf you couldn't vote Dolby or the top wagons, who would you vote?mansnicks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:51 amThat scotty wagon is so terrible lol.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:47 amAbout day 1 wagons, the silence around them is concerning, if Scotty is wolf his mates are sleeping without much care.
I would say we can't hit a wolf (probably) by voting the top wagons, but being very early in the morning in US this is a weaker take than usual.
I can bet its at least one wolf in the no voters
But nobody tbh.
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I was trying to get derpcleared, you got meEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:30 pm Basic ass reads while I wait around, TH is getting passes for not much.
Lime Coke aggro seems unfounded on a kinda meh opening.
Mac always seems town early although normally he likes to tr me more early so idk what's up with that.
Mansnicks getting a pass for trying very hard to derptell is such a ??? for me?



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Re: Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Day 1)
I said "OR the top wagons"mansnicks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:16 amOf those 3 if forced? hk.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:02 amIf you couldn't vote Dolby or the top wagons, who would you vote?mansnicks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:51 amThat scotty wagon is so terrible lol.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:47 amAbout day 1 wagons, the silence around them is concerning, if Scotty is wolf his mates are sleeping without much care.
I would say we can't hit a wolf (probably) by voting the top wagons, but being very early in the morning in US this is a weaker take than usual.
I can bet its at least one wolf in the no voters
But nobody tbh.
Who outside that list.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
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I had just got to feeling like you weren't actually scum.mansnicks wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:23 amI was trying to get derpcleared, you got meEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:30 pm Basic ass reads while I wait around, TH is getting passes for not much.
Lime Coke aggro seems unfounded on a kinda meh opening.
Mac always seems town early although normally he likes to tr me more early so idk what's up with that.
Mansnicks getting a pass for trying very hard to derptell is such a ??? for me?![]()
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God damnit.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.