I was at that point, and now I'm at a point where I'm going to choose to aggressively under-think!EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:25 amI think I'm probably at the point where I've over-thought about it.
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Aggressively underthink you say?
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yesDyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:11 amIs it because Her Majesty said so?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:00 amI also don't particularly think we can proceed without just flipping Dyslexicon.
I'm town, unfortunately.If anyone has any arguments to the contrary I am all ears.
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This is the energy the judges are looking forEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:29 am Aggressively underthink you say?
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Can we hammer sleep or do we have to sleep walk for 40+ hours first?
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My under thinking is Ender probably town for actually caring about Alison/Dizzy flip last phase.
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"We can't proceed without flipping Dizzy" is kind of scummy from Mac, cause he wasn't that into the Alison/Dizzy dichotomy from what I recall, but now that Alison flipped town and we also lost a day, he's all for it.
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it’s defeatist which is either scummy or recognizing that this is a TSP F7 and defeatism connects well with the target audience
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Well, you can't spell defeatist without eat, so I'm going to have breakfast now.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:44 am it’s defeatist which is either scummy or recognizing that this is a TSP F7 and defeatism connects well with the target audience
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its called re-evaluation friendoDyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:41 am "We can't proceed without flipping Dizzy" is kind of scummy from Mac, cause he wasn't that into the Alison/Dizzy dichotomy from what I recall, but now that Alison flipped town and we also lost a day, he's all for it.
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Lay that out for me, friendoMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:02 amits called re-evaluation friendoDyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:41 am "We can't proceed without flipping Dizzy" is kind of scummy from Mac, cause he wasn't that into the Alison/Dizzy dichotomy from what I recall, but now that Alison flipped town and we also lost a day, he's all for it.
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If dizzy flips town, it will just emphasize that we should have killed Alison on D1.
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no how bout you tell me who the wolves are if you aren't oneDyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:22 amLay that out for me, friendoMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:02 amits called re-evaluation friendoDyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 5:41 am "We can't proceed without flipping Dizzy" is kind of scummy from Mac, cause he wasn't that into the Alison/Dizzy dichotomy from what I recall, but now that Alison flipped town and we also lost a day, he's all for it.
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Dizzy being scum makes me feel dumb.
I am dumb.
I am dumb.
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Honestly there's the outside chance I've been absolutely punked here but NAA/Nanook w/w with some third idk who just cake-walk their way through this game and laugh as dizzy flips green.
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It's either Mac+Lu+1 orMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:45 amno how bout you tell me who the wolves are if you aren't one
Nanook+Axe+1
and then the one could be from the other group.
You would probably disagree on the you solve.
I don't know if Nanook+Axe is too wild, since they've been following each other pretty much all game I think. But I could see Nanook doing something like that, and from what I can tell, probably Axe too.
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All I know is that this game isn't on me, none of the day kill candidates were directly my idea, even BK, I basically opened it up for other people to decide.
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Inb4 red flipNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:54 am All I know is that this game isn't on me, none of the day kill candidates were directly my idea, even BK, I basically opened it up for other people to decide.
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If Lu is scum them they managed to get townreads from both me and Alison.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:47 amIt's either Mac+Lu+1 orMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:45 amno how bout you tell me who the wolves are if you aren't one
Nanook+Axe+1
and then the one could be from the other group.
You would probably disagree on the you solve.
I don't know if Nanook+Axe is too wild, since they've been following each other pretty much all game I think. But I could see Nanook doing something like that, and from what I can tell, probably Axe too.
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Insert [if dizzy is town this game is unwinnable] and [this is why thunderdomes shouldn't be postponed] gloomy and kind of scolding posts here
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I mean, town thunderdomes LHF towny D1, then thunderdomes another player D2. I don't know how you deal with a selfish player like that when they're town unless you just ignore them. The solution can't always be to resolve the thunderdome.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:19 am [this is why thunderdomes shouldn't be postponed]
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Yeah they really need to be taught a lesson about how mafia is a TEAM game and that playing SELFISHLY will only make you LOSE and then your TEAMMATES will also lose and be SALTY about it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:25 amI mean, town thunderdomes LHF towny D1, then thunderdomes another player D2. I don't know how you deal with a selfish player like that when they're town unless you just ignore them. The solution can't always be to resolve the thunderdome.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:19 am [this is why thunderdomes shouldn't be postponed]
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I feel like this is a veiled shot at me, but I'm going to ignore it because I am probably the least selfish player on site, given how I always end up on a large wagon at end of day, and don't focus on my own solving ability exclusively.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:27 amYeah they really need to be taught a lesson about how mafia is a TEAM game and that playing SELFISHLY will only make you LOSE and then your TEAMMATES will also lose and be SALTY about it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:25 amI mean, town thunderdomes LHF towny D1, then thunderdomes another player D2. I don't know how you deal with a selfish player like that when they're town unless you just ignore them. The solution can't always be to resolve the thunderdome.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:19 am [this is why thunderdomes shouldn't be postponed]
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No lol its supposed to be a joke, maybe poorly framed idkNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:29 amI feel like this is a veiled shot at me, but I'm going to ignore it because I am probably the least selfish player on site, given how I always end up on a large wagon at end of day, and don't focus on my own solving ability exclusively.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:27 amYeah they really need to be taught a lesson about how mafia is a TEAM game and that playing SELFISHLY will only make you LOSE and then your TEAMMATES will also lose and be SALTY about it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:25 amI mean, town thunderdomes LHF towny D1, then thunderdomes another player D2. I don't know how you deal with a selfish player like that when they're town unless you just ignore them. The solution can't always be to resolve the thunderdome.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:19 am [this is why thunderdomes shouldn't be postponed]
There isn't really much to say today yeah
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This is why we don't get you to write our jokes.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:33 amNo lol its supposed to be a joke, maybe poorly framed idkNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:29 amI feel like this is a veiled shot at me, but I'm going to ignore it because I am probably the least selfish player on site, given how I always end up on a large wagon at end of day, and don't focus on my own solving ability exclusively.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:27 amYeah they really need to be taught a lesson about how mafia is a TEAM game and that playing SELFISHLY will only make you LOSE and then your TEAMMATES will also lose and be SALTY about it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:25 amI mean, town thunderdomes LHF towny D1, then thunderdomes another player D2. I don't know how you deal with a selfish player like that when they're town unless you just ignore them. The solution can't always be to resolve the thunderdome.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:19 am [this is why thunderdomes shouldn't be postponed]
There isn't really much to say today yeah
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I think I'm locked into Nanook / Mac / Luckbox town btw.
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Yeah, but he got himself modkilled.
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I would commit to reading if everyone agreed on that 4. but otherwise I'll take the 25% of naming a 5th randomly.
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I'm here, awake, caffeinated, but not really motivated to post or put any work into the game.
If I did I'd probably try to poke Mac some more to see if he really wants to freak out at being called a wolf or not.
If I did I'd probably try to poke Mac some more to see if he really wants to freak out at being called a wolf or not.
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Isn't it 1/3 if we assume dizzy is mafiaNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:36 pm I would commit to reading if everyone agreed on that 4. but otherwise I'll take the 25% of naming a 5th randomly.
Or 1/2 if we assume ender is too
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I mean, if you run additional assumptions, yeah.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:01 pmIsn't it 1/3 if we assume dizzy is mafiaNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:36 pm I would commit to reading if everyone agreed on that 4. but otherwise I'll take the 25% of naming a 5th randomly.
Or 1/2 if we assume ender is too
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or, you know, we could have just notNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:29 am If dizzy flips town, it will just emphasize that we should have killed Alison on D1.
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Pretty much.Lu Ren wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:07 pmor, you know, we could have just notNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:29 am If dizzy flips town, it will just emphasize that we should have killed Alison on D1.
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Eh, yes?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:36 amIf Lu is scum them they managed to get townreads from both me and Alison.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:47 amIt's either Mac+Lu+1 orMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:45 amno how bout you tell me who the wolves are if you aren't one
Nanook+Axe+1
and then the one could be from the other group.
You would probably disagree on the you solve.
I don't know if Nanook+Axe is too wild, since they've been following each other pretty much all game I think. But I could see Nanook doing something like that, and from what I can tell, probably Axe too.
Final answer not given.
Cause I'm still kind of watching. =)
When I’ve been scum and Alison town, I also have gotten hard town read from her and most others. Posting “pro-town” and nice looking posts is pretty easy if you’re mafia. Come to think of it, I’m pretty sure this is the first game me and Alison is the same alignment. And this is why we can’t have nice things.
I should bother to say more later.
I’ve had a nice day though!
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@TonyStarkPrime @Lu Ren thoughts?
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and then what?
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Re: basic mafia [DAY 4]
I think the optimal play is for us to kill Dizzy, and for Enderwiggin to get himself modkilled.
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Surely if Dizzy is a wolf the last two are just Alison voters?
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Re: basic mafia [DAY 4]
Not necessarily. TSP could have been floating for Dizzy to be in danger and never voted because Alison reached 5 firstMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:42 pm Surely if Dizzy is a wolf the last two are just Alison voters?
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