Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Town Wins)

[Alison]

Both Ender and GG were working together to kill Creature which means Creature is probably spewed town. Ender flipping red makes the desperation soup theory a lot more likely. Scotty is probably not W/W with Ender, and I'm not sure why Mac is voting the way he is.

[Alison]

So Ender decided to go after Creature and vote with Garden while she was his counter wagon.

I asked Ender why he was townreading her, he didn't answer me at all. I'm fine with leaving my vote on Garden Gnome for today.

I honestly wouldn't mind Scotty here either seeing that Honey, along with other dead towns iirc, had him as scum.

I'll have a look at Scotty/Ender interactions when I'm less tired but my initial impression is that they didn't look teamed

[Scotty]

Just combed through Mac’s iso looking for Ender stuff. He’s been all over the place but I can’t deny he’s been consistently reading Ender as bad for most of the game. A big adder to ender’s D1 train, continues this on d2.

I wanna scum read mac as a deeeeep wolf but I just don’t see it

[Guillotine]

[lost monkey]

@hollowkatt @TonyStarkPrime If you have any important info please share it in a single post in your chat.

[Scotty]

@hollowkatt @TonyStarkPrime If you have any important info please share it in a single post in your chat.

Huh? What chat

[Garden Gnome]

So Ender decided to go after Creature and vote with Garden while she was his counter wagon.

I asked Ender why he was townreading her, he didn't answer me at all. I'm fine with leaving my vote on Garden Gnome for today.

I honestly wouldn't mind Scotty here either seeing that Honey, along with other dead towns iirc, had him as scum.

Wow, Ender did a great job in pocketing me.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

[Garden Gnome]

Hey folks who voted Ender, please vote Scotty!!! They are probably teammates.

[Alison]

Why are they teammates?

[Garden Gnome]

Why are they teammates?

Scotty's progression on Ender looks really bad. In post #2310, he asks Lime Coke for advice on who to vote (either Ender or me). In post 2368, he lists Ender as scum. Then, all of a sudden, there is this odd turnaround. How does he get from a decisive scum read in post 2368 to claiming that Ender looks townie in 2393? That is a bad look for Scotty, and I would wonder if he is trying to protect his scum buddy here.

[Flea the Magician]

[VOTE: Garden Gnome] aubergine

Ye gods this is the kind of hunter I wish I could be.

Will vote here if hammer range is clear

[Flea the Magician]

[VOTE: Gnome] aubergine

Now we're in the sketchy territory.

[lost monkey]

@hollowkatt @TonyStarkPrime If you have any important info please share it in a single post in your chat.

Huh? What chat

discord chats.

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Garden Gnome] aubergine

[Garden Gnome]

[VOTE: Garden Gnome] aubergine

This is the scummiest vote yet.
[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

[Guillotine]

REDACTED

[Guillotine]

Correction

[Garden Gnome]

REDACTED

scum claim, lol.

[Guillotine]

Garden Gnome has been eliminated

She was Town

Town Jack Of All Trades.

You win when all mafia aligned players are eliminated.

--------------------------------------------------------
As Town Jack Of All Trades, you have access to one or more night actions. Don't have to use in any specific order.

x3 Separatist
During the day, you may target a player. If that player is in a chat, it gets kicked out of it permanently. You won’t get a result whether this was successful or not.

x3 Communication Spy
The Communication Spy may at night investigate someone in their neighborhood and find out if they are able to chat with at least one other player outside of the neighborhood. If there is no one in the neighborhood this action cannot be used and can waste a shot to complete the cycle through.

x2 Neighborizer
You may at night target a player, which will recruit them into a Neighborhood, allowing everyone within it to communicate with each other outside of the game thread. Once added to the Neighborhood, a Neighbor will stay there permanently (until they die).

You got a limited amount of Separatist, Spy and Neighborizer uses.

[Guillotine]

Lost Monkey has died

Lost Monkey was Town

**Town Jack Of All Trades.**

You win when all mafia aligned players are eliminated.

--------------------------------------------------------
As Town Jack Of All Trades, you have access to one or more night actions. Don't have to use in any specific order

x3 Hydromancer
At night, you may target a player to soak them in water. A soaked player will unavoidably die if ever targeted by an electric ability.

x2 Colorblind Cop
The Colorblind Cop may at night perform a random investigation on a player, but will not receive the results of these investigations. Instead, a Colorblind Cop's second target will get the result. The investigation can either be an alignment check, a role set check or a sanity check.

x2 Spawn
Spawn may target a dead player at Dawn. If that player left behind a last will, the Spawn may read it.

You got a limited amount of Hydromancer, Colorblind Cop and Spawn uses.

[Guillotine]

Elimination by plurality is still enabled. There is no hammer today.

Day Ends July 23rd. 11:00 am EST

[Flea the Magician]

I'm going to have to gitgud now arent I.

[Guillotine]

Hollowkatt has resurrected from the dead!

Also Night 4 will be open for posting.

[Scotty]

Why was lomo killed? That’s another odd choice with the falcon one.

Also if that were mafia kill, the soup kill attempt was bogus. I really don’t want it to be bogus and hope that the kill was someone else

[Scotty]

Hollowkatt has resurrected from the dead!

Also Night 4 will be open for posting.

Eyyyyyy all good news!

[Scotty]

Also I didn’t have a lot of free time from when Ender was killed to end of day 3, but I did some redigging for teammate alignments and I’m VERY certain listo is w/w with Ender

[VOTE: listo] aubergine

Will be back with some better insight

[hollowkatt]

[Scotty]

any red checks to share with the class?

[listo95]

Also I didn’t have a lot of free time from when Ender was killed to end of day 3, but I did some redigging for teammate alignments and I’m VERY certain listo is w/w with Ender

[VOTE: listo] aubergine

Will be back with some better insight

Lol okay. I am literally not a wolf in this game. Let us remove Nanook and it can be proven.

Also whoever stole my character card. I hate you.

[hollowkatt]

any red checks to share with the class?

since I was such a horrible cop my badge has been revoked

That said, both Ender and Michelle maintained in DVC that they flipped wrong, so that's fun.

Michelle said she was the NK and Falcon should ahve flipped mafia
Ender says that he must have been messed with by an insaner, or that dolby was insaned b/c he should have flipped town

[listo95]

ANd with Ender I did say he would need to be resolved but I thought based on his posting he was townie. If that is literally the reason I'm teamed with him then lol.

[Scotty]

If all the flips in this game have been wrong then everything I’ve done has been wrong and I quit

[hollowkatt]

If all the flips in this game have been wrong then everything I’ve done has been wrong and I quit

ikr
michelle and ender (and I think Honey) wanted you dead/think you're a wolf

[hollowkatt]

at least honey thinks Alison is a wolf

[Alison]

Why was lomo killed? That’s another odd choice with the falcon one.

Also if that were mafia kill, the soup kill attempt was bogus. I really don’t want it to be bogus and hope that the kill was someone else

That bit is weird. The announcement that mafia lost their NK came directly from the mod, so it can't have been faked by just submitting wrong roles on their own members. I considered the possibility of a mafia member who could alter mod posts, but that seems both overpowered and it's unclear to me why they would try to claim the nightkill was disabled and then use it immediately after.

[hollowkatt]

Why was lomo killed? That’s another odd choice with the falcon one.

Also if that were mafia kill, the soup kill attempt was bogus. I really don’t want it to be bogus and hope that the kill was someone else

That bit is weird. The announcement that mafia lost their NK came directly from the mod, so it can't have been faked by just submitting wrong roles on their own members. I considered the possibility of a mafia member who could alter mod posts, but that seems both overpowered and it's unclear to me why they would try to claim the nightkill was disabled and then use it immediately after.

I would not discount the possibility that the "soup kill" post was a faked modpost. that kind of role is 100% within guillos wheelhouse to create

[Alison]

Why was lomo killed? That’s another odd choice with the falcon one.

Also if that were mafia kill, the soup kill attempt was bogus. I really don’t want it to be bogus and hope that the kill was someone else

That bit is weird. The announcement that mafia lost their NK came directly from the mod, so it can't have been faked by just submitting wrong roles on their own members. I considered the possibility of a mafia member who could alter mod posts, but that seems both overpowered and it's unclear to me why they would try to claim the nightkill was disabled and then use it immediately after.

I would not discount the possibility that the "soup kill" post was a faked modpost. that kind of role is 100% within guillos wheelhouse to create

If we can't trust flips and modposts then the game gets weird as fuck. If the soupkill was made to falsely clear someone I'd probably suspect Mac or Lime Coke.

[Scotty]

ANd with Ender I did say he would need to be resolved but I thought based on his posting he was townie. If that is literally the reason I'm teamed with him then lol.

It’s more of a pattern IMO.

I can break it down in shorthand first:
Michele mentioned you once.
All of your interactions with Ender where he scumreads you are softball distancing. He even goes so far as to say you were safe for D1 but you could be resolved later.
You voted for…nook? D1, which was a throwaway vote early but you just rode with it, and you continue to do so to this day.
D2 you continued with nook, not adding anything to the trains at hand.
D3 you continue with the nook tunnel only to join the creature brigade, saying he looks towny, then unvoting after his death, leaving your vote on nothing.

That’s the skinny.

[Alison]

Re: Michelle and Ender both claiming to be town, I'd assume anyone that flips mafia would claim that in DVC to confuse any townies who might be resurrected or communicate with living players.

I had a strong townread on Michelle D1: she was in her town meta, and her town meta is polarized. She also makes far more sense as the nightkill than Falcon. Conversely, the wolves submitting Bomb Maker on me suggests that they thought I blew up the person who visited LoMo, which means they probably knew a scum flipped that day. If the soupkill is faked, it's possible Michelle is town.

[Scotty]

If all the flips in this game have been wrong then everything I’ve done has been wrong and I quit

ikr
michelle and ender (and I think Honey) wanted you dead/think you're a wolf

Cool

[Alison]

I don't think there's any evidence pointing towards Ender being town. For Ender to be town, either Dolby is scum with a daykill and a faked soup on himself, or Dolby was insanified and Ender was death-framed. Both possibilities seem unlikely.

[Scotty]

Listen, if Michelle AND Ender are good, then it looks very bad for me. Ngl

If they’re not, I really don’t see how I would be a wolf unless I’ve been openly campaigning for and bussing my teammates

[Alison]

The correct play here is probably to build worlds where Michelle is town and worlds where Michelle is scum and try to figure out which is more likely and which names overlap between the worlds.

[Scotty]

Why was lomo killed? That’s another odd choice with the falcon one.

Also if that were mafia kill, the soup kill attempt was bogus. I really don’t want it to be bogus and hope that the kill was someone else

That bit is weird. The announcement that mafia lost their NK came directly from the mod, so it can't have been faked by just submitting wrong roles on their own members. I considered the possibility of a mafia member who could alter mod posts, but that seems both overpowered and it's unclear to me why they would try to claim the nightkill was disabled and then use it immediately after.

“Overpowered”

Girl this is a bastard game, I’m ready to start pooping milkduds any day

[Alison]

Have you been anti-Michelle?

[Scotty]

Have you been anti-Michelle?

What does that mean? I’ve been operating under the assumption that she is bad, if that’s your meaning

[Alison]

You've suggested that Michelle being town would look bad for you, and that Michelle being scum would help clear you. But I don't remember you doing anything to elicit that kind of association. With Ender, yes, but not with Michelle.

[Scotty]

If we’re playing with multiple people flipping different, then this game goes from sleuthing to full on tonal soul reads. I am much better with the former and am very bad with the latter

I’d probably pull a D1 creature and lose all motivation bc what’s the point?

[Alison]

You can use sleuthing to figure out if someone flipped wrong or right - see my analysis of possible fakery in Michelle/Ender flips above.

[listo95]

ANd with Ender I did say he would need to be resolved but I thought based on his posting he was townie. If that is literally the reason I'm teamed with him then lol.

It’s more of a pattern IMO.

I can break it down in shorthand first:
Michele mentioned you once.
All of your interactions with Ender where he scumreads you are softball distancing. He even goes so far as to say you were safe for D1 but you could be resolved later.
You voted for…nook? D1, which was a throwaway vote early but you just rode with it, and you continue to do so to this day.
D2 you continued with nook, not adding anything to the trains at hand.
D3 you continue with the nook tunnel only to join the creature brigade, saying he looks towny, then unvoting after his death, leaving your vote on nothing.

That’s the skinny.

I also did only post 14 times D1 so really almost no one interacted with me.
I'm generally an easy miselim due to my low post style
And for the D1 Nook I said I was going to sleep and would try to catch up when I woke up, I woke up and by the time I caught up day had just ended.
The D2 and D3 Nook is because I do genuinely believe he is wolf.