Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Town Wins)

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I am now realizing that I said I would ISO Nook today.











I am now realizing it again.

If you do read it it's unlikely you'll come away with a take outside of "yeah, sure, nanook can be poe i guess."

[hollowkatt]

I am now realizing that I said I would ISO Nook today.











I am now realizing it again.

If you do read it it's unlikely you'll come away with a take outside of "yeah, sure, nanook can be poe i guess."

I came out of it with "nanook just town".

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I am now realizing that I said I would ISO Nook today.











I am now realizing it again.

If you do read it it's unlikely you'll come away with a take outside of "yeah, sure, nanook can be poe i guess."

I came out of it with "nanook just town".

Yeah but you know me

[hollowkatt]

gonna do listo next

[listo95]

gonna do listo next

My entire thing can be summed up as "Nanook bad people yeet him"

[hollowkatt]

gonna do listo next

My entire thing can be summed up as "Nanook bad people yeet him"

why is nanook bad?

[listo95]

gonna do listo next

My entire thing can be summed up as "Nanook bad people yeet him"

why is nanook bad?

I find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.

[hollowkatt]

gonna do listo next

My entire thing can be summed up as "Nanook bad people yeet him"

why is nanook bad?

I find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.

ngl I'm gonna need more than feelies on this.

Even if you're just rambling, talk to me about why you think his posting feels off.
I get that you find his "town meta" wolfy. I'm not looking for you to drop some concrete bombs that nanook is a wolf here, but more than a feeling would be fantastic

[MacDougall]

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

[Scotty]

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

Who are your top 3 wolf reads, in order of most to least suspicious?

[listo95]

gonna do listo next

My entire thing can be summed up as "Nanook bad people yeet him"

why is nanook bad?

I find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.

ngl I'm gonna need more than feelies on this.

Even if you're just rambling, talk to me about why you think his posting feels off.
I get that you find his "town meta" wolfy. I'm not looking for you to drop some concrete bombs that nanook is a wolf here, but more than a feeling would be fantastic

Besides the sweeping, not really solving. I found the start of D2 to be more trying to sow confusion than actually solve. He is interacting with people without interacting with them. Honestly, trying to articulate reasons is extremely difficult for me. Those would be the 3 biggest I can think of.

Something else I just thought of before pressing post was he knows his iso looks bad but isn't really trying to do anything to look better.

[listo95]

Something else would be the fact that Ender had him as IDK on D1 but suddenly moved him to town D2 with what I consider fairly flimsy reasoning. Called the Nanook squabble with Michelle a reason to hardspew him as town when said squabble was like 4 posts and very minor. And after that Ender just seemed to completely ignore his existence.

[listo95]

gonna do listo next

My entire thing can be summed up as "Nanook bad people yeet him"

why is nanook bad?

I find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.

ngl I'm gonna need more than feelies on this.

Even if you're just rambling, talk to me about why you think his posting feels off.
I get that you find his "town meta" wolfy. I'm not looking for you to drop some concrete bombs that nanook is a wolf here, but more than a feeling would be fantastic

Besides the sweeping, not really solving. I found the start of D2 to be more trying to sow confusion than actually solve. He is interacting with people without interacting with them. Honestly, trying to articulate reasons is extremely difficult for me. Those would be the 3 biggest I can think of.

Something else I just thought of before pressing post was he knows his iso looks bad but isn't really trying to do anything to look better.

Sheeping*
EBWOP

[Scotty]

Something else would be the fact that Ender had him as IDK on D1 but suddenly moved him to town D2 with what I consider fairly flimsy reasoning. Called the Nanook squabble with Michelle a reason to hardspew him as town when said squabble was like 4 posts and very minor. And after that Ender just seemed to completely ignore his existence.

Lol that’s the same case I made on you I think- you had him as idk but we’re oscillating between scum to null to town on what I called flimsy reasoning

D2:

i like your analysis listo i will say flea and michelle did not seem partnered from their interactions and idk michelle voting to keep mansnicks wagon larger than enders doesnt look great to me considering if she was just going for a mis hammer and mansnicks and ender were both mishammerable in that day - ender had much more presence than mansnicks and would have been a more optimal ml if both wagons were town

That is a good point, my logic for Ender not being a wolf is I highly doubt on D1 2 wolves would vote right next to each other on a miselim.

D3: “Ender null but i agree his slot being resolved gives the most info”
45 minutes later, after a brief back and forth with ender where Ender basically says ‘no u’, here were the votes I’m seeing:
Ender 4, Gnome 4. Then Ender votes Creature, followed almost immediately by listo. Why? Because Ender looked towny for a sec, even if he gives the most info?

Naw dog I’m back to scumreading you hard

[Scotty]

Ender started a wagon on creature that was immediately followed by listo, and then 2 others to push it to ender 3, creature 4. That was blatantly coordinated to look like a towny push on a new train. Your reasoning was shit, and I still want you dead

[listo95]

Ender started a wagon on creature that was immediately followed by listo, and then 2 others to push it to ender 3, creature 4. That was blatantly coordinated to look like a towny push on a new train. Your reasoning was shit, and I still want you dead

Then shoot me. Prove yourself wrong. Or shoot Nanook and prove me town.

[listo95]

Something else would be the fact that Ender had him as IDK on D1 but suddenly moved him to town D2 with what I consider fairly flimsy reasoning. Called the Nanook squabble with Michelle a reason to hardspew him as town when said squabble was like 4 posts and very minor. And after that Ender just seemed to completely ignore his existence.

Lol that’s the same case I made on you I think- you had him as idk but we’re oscillating between scum to null to town on what I called flimsy reasoning

D2:

i like your analysis listo i will say flea and michelle did not seem partnered from their interactions and idk michelle voting to keep mansnicks wagon larger than enders doesnt look great to me considering if she was just going for a mis hammer and mansnicks and ender were both mishammerable in that day - ender had much more presence than mansnicks and would have been a more optimal ml if both wagons were town

That is a good point, my logic for Ender not being a wolf is I highly doubt on D1 2 wolves would vote right next to each other on a miselim.

D3: “Ender null but i agree his slot being resolved gives the most info”
45 minutes later, after a brief back and forth with ender where Ender basically says ‘no u’, here were the votes I’m seeing:
Ender 4, Gnome 4. Then Ender votes Creature, followed almost immediately by listo. Why? Because Ender looked towny for a sec, even if he gives the most info?

Naw dog I’m back to scumreading you hard

Also I thought all of Ender's votes were fairly town that day so sue me for following that for another wolf read I had.

[Scotty]

C4 might be on to something: either we have the wolves pinned in Martin/TH and it’s going to be a yawn fest/ they’re quietly waiting for a wacko like me to shake it up again

Or

Listo and his scum mates are just peddling garbage.

[listo95]

I also don't get why you don't understand what I said earlier. As a wolf I never work with my team to push a yeet. If they are one of the options I will 99% of the time bus my own team for the town cred.

[Scotty]

Ender started a wagon on creature that was immediately followed by listo, and then 2 others to push it to ender 3, creature 4. That was blatantly coordinated to look like a towny push on a new train. Your reasoning was shit, and I still want you dead

Then shoot me. Prove yourself wrong. Or shoot Nanook and prove me town.

I’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.

Listo/nook 2024

[hollowkatt]

Something else would be the fact that Ender had him as IDK on D1 but suddenly moved him to town D2 with what I consider fairly flimsy reasoning. Called the Nanook squabble with Michelle a reason to hardspew him as town when said squabble was like 4 posts and very minor. And after that Ender just seemed to completely ignore his existence.

gonna do listo next

My entire thing can be summed up as "Nanook bad people yeet him"

why is nanook bad?

I find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.

ngl I'm gonna need more than feelies on this.

Even if you're just rambling, talk to me about why you think his posting feels off.
I get that you find his "town meta" wolfy. I'm not looking for you to drop some concrete bombs that nanook is a wolf here, but more than a feeling would be fantastic

Besides the sweeping, not really solving. I found the start of D2 to be more trying to sow confusion than actually solve. He is interacting with people without interacting with them. Honestly, trying to articulate reasons is extremely difficult for me. Those would be the 3 biggest I can think of.

Something else I just thought of before pressing post was he knows his iso looks bad but isn't really trying to do anything to look better.

Thanks listo, I appreciate it.
Lemme think on this for a while. Like I don't think there's only 4 wolves, but I think I want to chop you after Martin/Triple.

What are your thoughts on Martin/Triple, and do you think all our flips have been legit thus far?

[listo95]

But go ahead shoot me. Lose one of the decent role sets town has.

[Scotty]

I also don't get why you don't understand what I said earlier. As a wolf I never work with my team to push a yeet. If they are one of the options I will 99% of the time bus my own team for the town cred.

Case and point

[listo95]

Something else would be the fact that Ender had him as IDK on D1 but suddenly moved him to town D2 with what I consider fairly flimsy reasoning. Called the Nanook squabble with Michelle a reason to hardspew him as town when said squabble was like 4 posts and very minor. And after that Ender just seemed to completely ignore his existence.

gonna do listo next

My entire thing can be summed up as "Nanook bad people yeet him"

why is nanook bad?

I find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.

ngl I'm gonna need more than feelies on this.

Even if you're just rambling, talk to me about why you think his posting feels off.
I get that you find his "town meta" wolfy. I'm not looking for you to drop some concrete bombs that nanook is a wolf here, but more than a feeling would be fantastic

Besides the sweeping, not really solving. I found the start of D2 to be more trying to sow confusion than actually solve. He is interacting with people without interacting with them. Honestly, trying to articulate reasons is extremely difficult for me. Those would be the 3 biggest I can think of.

Something else I just thought of before pressing post was he knows his iso looks bad but isn't really trying to do anything to look better.

Thanks listo, I appreciate it.
Lemme think on this for a while. Like I don't think there's only 4 wolves, but I think I want to chop you after Martin/Triple.

What are your thoughts on Martin/Triple, and do you think all our flips have been legit thus far?

I do think both Martin and TH are honest targets. But I have them behind Nanook for me. I do believe all the flips are genuine also. Mainly because I have only ever been in 1 game ever that did fake flips. Also due to the fact if the flips are fake that makes me pretty much useless.

[hollowkatt]

But go ahead shoot me. Lose one of the decent role sets town has.

ok, setting aside your limited availability b/c of your job, does it often take you 2 or more days to get into a game and really start playing/interacting?

[listo95]

Ender started a wagon on creature that was immediately followed by listo, and then 2 others to push it to ender 3, creature 4. That was blatantly coordinated to look like a towny push on a new train. Your reasoning was shit, and I still want you dead

Then shoot me. Prove yourself wrong. Or shoot Nanook and prove me town.

I’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.

Listo/nook 2024

Look I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.

[MacDougall]

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

[Scotty]

Ender started a wagon on creature that was immediately followed by listo, and then 2 others to push it to ender 3, creature 4. That was blatantly coordinated to look like a towny push on a new train. Your reasoning was shit, and I still want you dead

Then shoot me. Prove yourself wrong. Or shoot Nanook and prove me town.

Trying to bait me into using my Lobotomizer gun?

[hollowkatt]

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

Hi mac, I acknowledge you are posting

[listo95]

But go ahead shoot me. Lose one of the decent role sets town has.

ok, setting aside your limited availability b/c of your job, does it often take you 2 or more days to get into a game and really start playing/interacting?

I'm very much more of an end game player. Early game sucks for me because I need vote records to go off of. Along with getting a better idea of how people post I can sometimes make reads based on interactions but it is much more difficult for me.

[listo95]

Ender started a wagon on creature that was immediately followed by listo, and then 2 others to push it to ender 3, creature 4. That was blatantly coordinated to look like a towny push on a new train. Your reasoning was shit, and I still want you dead

Then shoot me. Prove yourself wrong. Or shoot Nanook and prove me town.

Trying to bait me into using my Lobotomizer gun?

No, I'm not. I'm just getting fucking annoyed that it seems like no one wants to entertain an idea that Nanook might be scum so I'm getting emotional in my posting.

[Scotty]

But go ahead shoot me. Lose one of the decent role sets town has.

ok, setting aside your limited availability b/c of your job, does it often take you 2 or more days to get into a game and really start playing/interacting?

I'm very much more of an end game player. Early game sucks for me because I need vote records to go off of. Along with getting a better idea of how people post I can sometimes make reads based on interactions but it is much more difficult for me.

I’m more of a mid game player that goes off of vote records, which is why I’m so sus of you.

We have 2 flipped wolves, which is invariably HUGE info (provided they’re real) and yet you’re all over nook for…gut feeling?

[listo95]

But go ahead shoot me. Lose one of the decent role sets town has.

ok, setting aside your limited availability b/c of your job, does it often take you 2 or more days to get into a game and really start playing/interacting?

I'm very much more of an end game player. Early game sucks for me because I need vote records to go off of. Along with getting a better idea of how people post I can sometimes make reads based on interactions but it is much more difficult for me.

I’m more of a mid game player that goes off of vote records, which is why I’m so sus of you.

We have 2 flipped wolves, which is invariably HUGE info (provided they’re real) and yet you’re all over nook for…gut feeling?

The vote records ALSO show him being wolf as fuck.

[Scotty]

Ender started a wagon on creature that was immediately followed by listo, and then 2 others to push it to ender 3, creature 4. That was blatantly coordinated to look like a towny push on a new train. Your reasoning was shit, and I still want you dead

Then shoot me. Prove yourself wrong. Or shoot Nanook and prove me town.

I’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.

Listo/nook 2024

Look I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.

I also don't get why you don't understand what I said earlier. As a wolf I never work with my team to push a yeet. If they are one of the options I will 99% of the time bus my own team for the town cred.

What am I missing here?

[listo95]

Ender started a wagon on creature that was immediately followed by listo, and then 2 others to push it to ender 3, creature 4. That was blatantly coordinated to look like a towny push on a new train. Your reasoning was shit, and I still want you dead

Then shoot me. Prove yourself wrong. Or shoot Nanook and prove me town.

I’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.

Listo/nook 2024

Look I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.

I also don't get why you don't understand what I said earlier. As a wolf I never work with my team to push a yeet. If they are one of the options I will 99% of the time bus my own team for the town cred.

What am I missing here?

That I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

gonna do listo next

My entire thing can be summed up as "Nanook bad people yeet him"

why is nanook bad?

Apparently I play the same way scum on his home site play

Which is obviously a good and reasonable way to read me, given that I clearly come from his home site and thus site meta reads apply to me but meta reads by people who play with me regularly do not.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

gonna do listo next

My entire thing can be summed up as "Nanook bad people yeet him"

why is nanook bad?

I find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.

ngl I'm gonna need more than feelies on this.

Even if you're just rambling, talk to me about why you think his posting feels off.
I get that you find his "town meta" wolfy. I'm not looking for you to drop some concrete bombs that nanook is a wolf here, but more than a feeling would be fantastic

Besides the sweeping, not really solving. I found the start of D2 to be more trying to sow confusion than actually solve. He is interacting with people without interacting with them. Honestly, trying to articulate reasons is extremely difficult for me. Those would be the 3 biggest I can think of.

Something else I just thought of before pressing post was he knows his iso looks bad but isn't really trying to do anything to look better.

I don't think it looks bad

I'm sure it looks meh to people who don't have much experience with me

But there's nothing I'm really willing to do about that

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also "he knows his iso looks bad but isn't doing anything about it" if true would be a reason to TR someone

[Scotty]

But go ahead shoot me. Lose one of the decent role sets town has.

ok, setting aside your limited availability b/c of your job, does it often take you 2 or more days to get into a game and really start playing/interacting?

I'm very much more of an end game player. Early game sucks for me because I need vote records to go off of. Along with getting a better idea of how people post I can sometimes make reads based on interactions but it is much more difficult for me.

I’m more of a mid game player that goes off of vote records, which is why I’m so sus of you.

We have 2 flipped wolves, which is invariably HUGE info (provided they’re real) and yet you’re all over nook for…gut feeling?

The vote records ALSO show him being wolf as fuck.

Oh?
D1: vote count HK 4, mansnicks 3, ender 3. Votes Ender. Leaves it there.
D2: votes me because trial shit. Switches to HK to sheep Mac.
D3: ignores Ender’s train and sheep’s mac again onto Gnome.

The d2 and d3 is only suspicious if nook is trying to emulate his town meta and sheep reads. He could be bad, but that D1 looks good.

[Scotty]

Ender started a wagon on creature that was immediately followed by listo, and then 2 others to push it to ender 3, creature 4. That was blatantly coordinated to look like a towny push on a new train. Your reasoning was shit, and I still want you dead

Then shoot me. Prove yourself wrong. Or shoot Nanook and prove me town.

I’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.

Listo/nook 2024

Look I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.

I also don't get why you don't understand what I said earlier. As a wolf I never work with my team to push a yeet. If they are one of the options I will 99% of the time bus my own team for the town cred.

What am I missing here?

That I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.

I’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?

[hollowkatt]

But go ahead shoot me. Lose one of the decent role sets town has.

ok, setting aside your limited availability b/c of your job, does it often take you 2 or more days to get into a game and really start playing/interacting?

I'm very much more of an end game player. Early game sucks for me because I need vote records to go off of. Along with getting a better idea of how people post I can sometimes make reads based on interactions but it is much more difficult for me.

I’m more of a mid game player that goes off of vote records, which is why I’m so sus of you.

We have 2 flipped wolves, which is invariably HUGE info (provided they’re real) and yet you’re all over nook for…gut feeling?

The vote records ALSO show him being wolf as fuck.

his votes are me, scotty twice, gnome, and ender. That doesn't seem horrific given that one of the scotty votes was the Prosecutor, the vote for me was b/c it was kinda obligatory, and then ender flipped wolf.
So really it's just the gnome who wasn't really townie, and the second scotty vote that you can "hang a wolf read on"

At least that's what I'm thinking.

[listo95]

Ender started a wagon on creature that was immediately followed by listo, and then 2 others to push it to ender 3, creature 4. That was blatantly coordinated to look like a towny push on a new train. Your reasoning was shit, and I still want you dead

Then shoot me. Prove yourself wrong. Or shoot Nanook and prove me town.

I’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.

Listo/nook 2024

Look I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.

I also don't get why you don't understand what I said earlier. As a wolf I never work with my team to push a yeet. If they are one of the options I will 99% of the time bus my own team for the town cred.

What am I missing here?

That I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.

I’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?

Okay let me try to explain it better. I will vote for a team as a wolf if they are already a valid wagon. As a wolf I would never be trying this hard with Nanook.

[Scotty]

But go ahead shoot me. Lose one of the decent role sets town has.

ok, setting aside your limited availability b/c of your job, does it often take you 2 or more days to get into a game and really start playing/interacting?

I'm very much more of an end game player. Early game sucks for me because I need vote records to go off of. Along with getting a better idea of how people post I can sometimes make reads based on interactions but it is much more difficult for me.

I’m more of a mid game player that goes off of vote records, which is why I’m so sus of you.

We have 2 flipped wolves, which is invariably HUGE info (provided they’re real) and yet you’re all over nook for…gut feeling?

The vote records ALSO show him being wolf as fuck.

his votes are me, scotty twice, gnome, and ender. That doesn't seem horrific given that one of the scotty votes was the Prosecutor, the vote for me was b/c it was kinda obligatory, and then ender flipped wolf.
So really it's just the gnome who wasn't really townie, and the second scotty vote that you can "hang a wolf read on"

At least that's what I'm thinking.

That Ender D1 vote is pretty ballsy if he’s wolf tho. The trains could have swung in any direction after pushing Ender to a tie. Could be that he would have changed it if mansnicks didn’t pick back up, but those little votes are akin to throwing a match on gasoline

[hollowkatt]

Then shoot me. Prove yourself wrong. Or shoot Nanook and prove me town.

I’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.

Listo/nook 2024

Look I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.

I also don't get why you don't understand what I said earlier. As a wolf I never work with my team to push a yeet. If they are one of the options I will 99% of the time bus my own team for the town cred.

What am I missing here?

That I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.

I’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?

Okay let me try to explain it better. I will vote for a team as a wolf if they are already a valid wagon. As a wolf I would never be trying this hard with Nanook.

I kinda buy that.
Like ok, if you're wolf and nanook is town why are you going so hard on him when there's other options to go hard on like TH and Martin, even if they are your pack you could get some credit for pushing on them.
If you're town and nanook is a wolf then your go hard there makes a lot of sense, something triggers your wolf radar there and you want to see that through.

If you're both wolves this loses the game b/c like the town reads nanook is getting are from people who are really experienced with reading him. Not that it's meta, but that it's practice.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.

Listo/nook 2024

Look I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.

I also don't get why you don't understand what I said earlier. As a wolf I never work with my team to push a yeet. If they are one of the options I will 99% of the time bus my own team for the town cred.

What am I missing here?

That I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.

I’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?

Okay let me try to explain it better. I will vote for a team as a wolf if they are already a valid wagon. As a wolf I would never be trying this hard with Nanook.

I kinda buy that.
Like ok, if you're wolf and nanook is town why are you going so hard on him when there's other options to go hard on like TH and Martin, even if they are your pack you could get some credit for pushing on them.
If you're town and nanook is a wolf then your go hard there makes a lot of sense, something triggers your wolf radar there and you want to see that through.

If you're both wolves this loses the game b/c like the town reads nanook is getting are from people who are really experienced with reading him. Not that it's meta, but that it's practice.

Counterpoint: I'm a super easy place to park and not have to do anything for three and a half days cause I'm poe but haven't been in serious danger of going over

[hollowkatt]

Look I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.

I also don't get why you don't understand what I said earlier. As a wolf I never work with my team to push a yeet. If they are one of the options I will 99% of the time bus my own team for the town cred.

What am I missing here?

That I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.

I’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?

Okay let me try to explain it better. I will vote for a team as a wolf if they are already a valid wagon. As a wolf I would never be trying this hard with Nanook.

I kinda buy that.
Like ok, if you're wolf and nanook is town why are you going so hard on him when there's other options to go hard on like TH and Martin, even if they are your pack you could get some credit for pushing on them.
If you're town and nanook is a wolf then your go hard there makes a lot of sense, something triggers your wolf radar there and you want to see that through.

If you're both wolves this loses the game b/c like the town reads nanook is getting are from people who are really experienced with reading him. Not that it's meta, but that it's practice.

Counterpoint: I'm a super easy place to park and not have to do anything for three and a half days cause I'm poe but haven't been in serious danger of going over

countercounterpoint: flipping you wins nobody anything (unless you're the last wolf in which case gg me)

[Scotty]

I’ve also said this before, and not to discount it completely, but metas can be faked. People that talk about their metas and flaunt what they would do as wolf or as town automatically raise my hackles. The first step is awareness of your tell, the next step is being able to replicate it.

Listo’s saying he always does “A” as wolf. Others say nook always does “B” as town. Perhaps…if they…just changed their playstyle for a game…they could…fool people more

[Scotty]

What am I missing here?

That I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.

I’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?

Okay let me try to explain it better. I will vote for a team as a wolf if they are already a valid wagon. As a wolf I would never be trying this hard with Nanook.

I kinda buy that.
Like ok, if you're wolf and nanook is town why are you going so hard on him when there's other options to go hard on like TH and Martin, even if they are your pack you could get some credit for pushing on them.
If you're town and nanook is a wolf then your go hard there makes a lot of sense, something triggers your wolf radar there and you want to see that through.

If you're both wolves this loses the game b/c like the town reads nanook is getting are from people who are really experienced with reading him. Not that it's meta, but that it's practice.

Counterpoint: I'm a super easy place to park and not have to do anything for three and a half days cause I'm poe but haven't been in serious danger of going over

countercounterpoint: flipping you wins nobody anything (unless you're the last wolf in which case gg me)

That’s why he’s a safe player to park a vote on. It’s gonna be hard to lynch nook when he’s such a better vig candidate.

Which…eventually someone might take out

Someone brave

[hollowkatt]

I’ve also said this before, and not to discount it completely, but metas can be faked. People that talk about their metas and flaunt what they would do as wolf or as town automatically raise my hackles. The first step is awareness of your tell, the next step is being able to replicate it.

Listo’s saying he always does “A” as wolf. Others say nook always does “B” as town. Perhaps…if they…just changed their playstyle for a game…they could…fool people more

you're not wrong, but like isn't it super interesting that as soon as there's pressure on martin and triple they just kinda... vanish?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

What am I missing here?

That I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.

I’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?

Okay let me try to explain it better. I will vote for a team as a wolf if they are already a valid wagon. As a wolf I would never be trying this hard with Nanook.

I kinda buy that.
Like ok, if you're wolf and nanook is town why are you going so hard on him when there's other options to go hard on like TH and Martin, even if they are your pack you could get some credit for pushing on them.
If you're town and nanook is a wolf then your go hard there makes a lot of sense, something triggers your wolf radar there and you want to see that through.

If you're both wolves this loses the game b/c like the town reads nanook is getting are from people who are really experienced with reading him. Not that it's meta, but that it's practice.

Counterpoint: I'm a super easy place to park and not have to do anything for three and a half days cause I'm poe but haven't been in serious danger of going over

countercounterpoint: flipping you wins nobody anything (unless you're the last wolf in which case gg me)

Thats kinda the point though yeah, that im poe enough that he doesn't really get side eye for pushing me near-exclusively, but im not really at risk of dying for awhile. Its like a perfect place for a mafia to tunnel, when questioned they just go "well flip nanook" and nobody really thinks its unreasonable to want to flip me, but I don't get flipped.

This is not an uncommon place for scum to be ime, especially if there's someone on the team with some amount of familiarity with the way I tend to hang around in the poe for long stretches of time.