[FELT Mafia]: ENDGAME

#901

Sorry I'm late. After yoga, I accidentally went drinking with some coworkers. Post in 2 shakes.

#902

Day 6: Excuse Me Sir, But Are You a Male Model?

Bloc Party's lead singer (and solo artist) Kele Okereke.

The team was in an uproar. No one trusted the other.

Roxy suggested they diffuse the tension by taking in a rock show.

They decided to go to The Rialto and see Kele Okereke.

A Person immediately went to the merch table for a shirt.

thellama73 huffed at all the mustaches similar to his. "Ech, hipsters!" he moaned.

"This is not my favourite musician, but I feel like he represents the U.K. well," stated Bullzeye.

"This music isn't half bad!" said Sabie.

Look at those traps!

"Let's mosh!" yelled Epignosis.

Everyone had fun.

No one died.

It is now Night 6. You have 24 hours to send in your night actions and vote in the night poll.

#903

So expected.

#904

Who needs the Boondock Saints called after them?

Poll ended at Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:15:22 pm

Bullzeye
0
No votes
Epignosis
0
No votes
Keterman (A Person 2.0)
0
No votes
Made
2
thellama73 (6), Bullzeye (8) 18%
Mister Rearranger
0
No votes
Roxy
0
No votes
sabie12
0
No votes
thellama73
5
sabie12 (4), Mister Rearranger (5), Made (7), Roxy (10), Epignosis (11) 45%
Oscar Pistorius (Host/Mod/NPs/Site Owner/Deadies/Ferrets/Etc)
4
Mongoose (1), MovingPictures07 (2), Dom (3), Hedgeowl (9)

Missing vote: A Person 2.0

#905

The Night Poll is up.

The Poll Thread has been updated.

#906

I read an article written by him today!

I really like ccats!

Hooray for Kele! Hooray for Cats! Hooray for Pocoyo!

#907

Talk about nine lives.

#908

#909

Guys, I'm seriously. Stop trying to kill me. You're just giving the bad guys more time to NK us all. They will NK tonight, you'll lynch me again tomorrow, and you'll be two civs down, if we haven't outright lost by then. Stop it.

Also, the reason I survived is because I am supatown.

#910

I voted for everything. The optimal number of cats is somewhere between none at all and an infinite amount. I like this musician now because his name is one letter away from being the same as my university's, so obviously we have a powerful connection. Llama's survival doesn't add up with what I've believed about him.

#911

Bullzeye wrote:Llama's survival doesn't add up with what I've believed about him.

You mean you didn't believe I was supatown?

#912

A Person wrote:

cookies

#913

Ap, I need your opinions and shit if you're willing to give them plox.

#914

Roxy wrote:Thought I might miss this.

I personally been thinking Made was feeling the same as Misfits. Still crazy but not as much. I disagree with llama about being hard to change your game. I think he is more on a learning curve and with each new game he develops a little more. His style is still evolving.

I do not think you, llama, play the same at all as you did when we first played together. You changed and evolved your style. No way that your argument holds up looking at it logically. There is no way you can tell me you played the same in your first game as your say your 3rd or 4th game.

I am voting llama. I cannot shake the feeling that he is the sk recruiter. I have had this gut feeling the entire game.

Llama - are you going to respond and answer this post?

#915

Roxy wrote:
Roxy wrote:Thought I might miss this.

I personally been thinking Made was feeling the same as Misfits. Still crazy but not as much. I disagree with llama about being hard to change your game. I think he is more on a learning curve and with each new game he develops a little more. His style is still evolving.

I do not think you, llama, play the same at all as you did when we first played together. You changed and evolved your style. No way that your argument holds up looking at it logically. There is no way you can tell me you played the same in your first game as your say your 3rd or 4th game.

I am voting llama. I cannot shake the feeling that he is the sk recruiter. I have had this gut feeling the entire game.
Llama - are you going to respond and answer this post?

If you like. I already acknowledged that this was a possibility in Made's case. I personally do not believe it to be true though. I think the shift in style is too dramatic and too rapid. I also don't think I play that differently than I ever have, but I may not be the best judge of that.

#916

Thanks for your response llaman

#917

Roxy wrote:Thanks for your response llaman

I am always happy to respond to you, Rox!

#918

If I die tonight look to llama then bullz. After that idk.

#919

There's always the chance no one dies tonight. If someone does we probably shouldn't lynch Llama tonight, but day 8, the way I see it anyways.

#920

That makes no sense to me. why wait? why not try again?

#921

Night 6: Slingin' in the Rain

"Ahh, I love The Umbrellas of Cherbourg," said Roxy.

"I think umbrellas would make a good stand up gag," said thellama73.

"She's so pretty!" said Sabie, about Catherine Deneuve.

They turned to see the shriek. Bullzeye slumped to the floor. He had an umbrella poking out of his chest.

Bullzeye has died.

It is now Day 7. You have 24 hours to find the umbrella wielder.

#922

Night 6:

What is the best number of cats to have? (Select as many as you want) NPs are welcome to answer.

Poll runs till Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:34:10 pm

0
3
sabie12 (7), Bullzeye (20), Epignosis (26) 10%
1
3
Mongoose (4), Bullzeye (19), thellama73 (24) 10%
2
5
Hedgeowl (6), Mister Rearranger (9), Bullzeye (18), thellama73 (23), Epignosis (27) 17%
3
1
Bullzeye (17) 3%
4
1
Bullzeye (16) 3%
5
1
Bullzeye (15) 3%
100
1
Bullzeye (14) 3%
ALL THE CATS
4
A Person (2), Bullzeye (13), thellama73 (22), Made (29) 14%
Cats are expensive in Finland
6
A Person (3), Hedgeowl (5), Mister Rearranger (10), Bullzeye (12), S~V~S (21), Metalmarsh89 (25) 21%
I Dunno K
4
A Person (1), Mister Rearranger (8), Bullzeye (11), Made (28) 14%
Total votes : 29

#923

Oh look, my only defender has died. Still think I'm bad?

#924

thellama73 wrote:Oh look, my only defender has died. Still think I'm bad?

Yes but that's beside the point. I think you killed him as indy and he was mafia, so i'm ok with that.

The way I see it, we need you alive in order to keep the ratio of Mafia:Town above win condition level, and (I'm assuming anyways as Puppet Slayer) Puppet slayer (probably) only kills on even nights so you don't need to die tonight. Killing you might give mafia the win if we're not careful.

Honestly I want to point our attention to Roxy based on gut feeling and voting patterns. I've thought this for a while, but I figured that even suggesting Roxy might be bad would get my lynched while bulls and Llama were still alive. As this is definitely not a sound argument/case, I'm open to other suggestions.

#925

Made, I think Bullzeye was a damning kill.

#926

Epignosis wrote:Made, I think Bullzeye was a damning kill.

Not as damning as it immediately might appear. According to page one, mafia only kills on odd nights, meaning there a large chance mafia was not involved.

While we don't know puppet slayer's win objective, Mafia wins by outnumber town. So Puppet slayer--at this point in the game especially-- is incentivised to find and kill suspected mafia.

#927

Made wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Made, I think Bullzeye was a damning kill.
Not as damning as it immediately might appear. According to page one, mafia only kills on odd nights, meaning there a large chance mafia was not involved.

While we don't know puppet slayer's win objective, Mafia wins by outnumber town. So Puppet slayer--at this point in the game especially-- is incentivised to find and kill suspected mafia.

Uh-huh.

This from the front page:

Mongoose wrote:BAD FELT. Secret win conditions.

The Mad Hatter and his hats have a secret win condition. So how do you know that:

1. The Puppet Slayer has a unique win objective, and
2. That Mafia win by outnumbering the town?

I think you dun goofed.

#928

Epignosis wrote:
Made wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Made, I think Bullzeye was a damning kill.
Not as damning as it immediately might appear. According to page one, mafia only kills on odd nights, meaning there a large chance mafia was not involved.

While we don't know puppet slayer's win objective, Mafia wins by outnumber town. So Puppet slayer--at this point in the game especially-- is incentivised to find and kill suspected mafia.
Uh-huh.

This from the front page:

Mongoose wrote:BAD FELT. Secret win conditions.
The Mad Hatter and his hats have a secret win condition. So how do you know that:

1. The Puppet Slayer has a unique win objective, and
2. That Mafia win by outnumbering the town?

I think you dun goofed.

This would be pathetic if it were a slip. I just had a moemory laps. I thought Bad felt was the announced and puppet slayer was secret. That said, I'll answer your questions regardless.

1. S/he's an Indy. Ofcourse they're win condition is going to be unique???
2. I've never seen a game where outnumbering wasn't at least part of mafia's end goal. Regardless three teams competing rather than two is great for the losing team and as a civvie, I feel like I'm losing.

With no success lynches under our belt, it's safe to say we're not doing hot. At this point, the puppet slayer is an allyy not an enemy.

As a town, how do you feel like we're doing epig?

#929

Oh Made, you are so evil, evil, evil. I'ma totes vote for you.

*votes Made*

#930

Made wrote:After further analysis, it's clear that there's at aleast three killers in this game
1.Mad hatter
2.Puppet slayer
3.A Ninja or prize killer.(note probably not allignment exclusive)

Using this logic remove the false pretence that everyone who died is civvie.

As it stands, I kinda thought APerson was mafia, but that was a gut read more than anything and probably just straight up wrong.

I'm leaving lunch. Mafia, please don't use my train of thought to get a civvie lynched while I'm gone.

Also, you sounded pretty confident one of your teammies died. Glad I found this post again.

#931

Mister Rearranger wrote:
Made wrote:After further analysis, it's clear that there's at aleast three killers in this game
1.Mad hatter
2.Puppet slayer
3.A Ninja or prize killer.(note probably not allignment exclusive)

Using this logic remove the false pretence that everyone who died is civvie.

As it stands, I kinda thought APerson was mafia, but that was a gut read more than anything and probably just straight up wrong.

I'm leaving lunch. Mafia, please don't use my train of thought to get a civvie lynched while I'm gone.
Also, you sounded pretty confident one of your teammies died. Glad I found this post again.

Gonna play this one Misfits style:

If I am mafia as you claim, how would I know puppet slayer's objective as you also claimed I did above?

I'm confident because confidence is fun, honestly.I'm enjoying being confident, and I'm also enjoying throwing all weak arguemrnts against me back in the face of those throwing them.

I may be evil, but I'm still civve and if we want to win civvies need to work with Puppet slayer to kill mafia. "The Enemy of my enemy is my friend" I stand by both this and my previous two post.

(Note I do not know, or am claiming to know any information and therefore all of my theories, are fallible. I have made an effort to make this clear throughout the game that I am always open to thoughtful criticism of theories and ideas.)

#932

Made - first why do we have to work with the creepy Puppet dude??

How do you know he has not found his other nasty puppet friends and recruited them?

How do you know the Mafia are more dangerous than the gross Puppets? How do you know how many is left per team to make this determination?

Both of the baddie teams need to go and tbqh I want to kill either one. We need them all dead in order to win.
Secret schmercret usually baddies do not win with the town so I am not believing you when you say that since the win conditions are unknown no need to worry over them.

I do not care who we lynch today or whether they are mafia or creepy nasty puppets - all need to go.

llama - not sure how I feel since Bullz death though in my mind it does not automatically clear you as you could have killed him as the Puppet creepy guy for the wifom argument.

#933

If I had my druthers, I would vote for MR today. His scapegoateree of Made has my eyebrow firmly raised, and Made, although deathly wrong about me, is reasoning like a civilian. However, I do not have my durthers, since people still are probably going to try to kill me and I will have to save myself however I can.

Still, I urge people to look at MR.

#934

Ugh I don't know I'm finding it difficult now to figure out who to trust. I'm still wary of Llama. He's trying to convince us he's good, but I'm really still not sure about that. I'm still thinking he might be either bad or neutral. This is my first game so I don't really know exactly how each team wins. I'd like to make sure we get a baddie this time for sure. I'm not convinced Made is bad just has a lot of theories. I'll have to do some research into old posts and polls to kind of get an idea of what's up with those that are left. I'm not sure about MR either. I've always kind of suspected him as being a potential baddie and with how few of us are left it is certainly a possibility.

#935

thellama73 wrote:If I had my druthers, I would vote for MR today. His scapegoateree of Made has my eyebrow firmly raised, and Made, although deathly wrong about me, is reasoning like a civilian. However, I do not have my durthers, since people still are probably going to try to kill me and I will have to save myself however I can.

Still, I urge people to look at MR.

It's a scapepaca, thank you very much...

#936

Whatever, if I die, I die. Voting MR now.

#937

thellama73 wrote:Whatever, if I die, I die. Voting MR now.

For what it's worth, I'd like to think I'm an observant person, but I did not want to state that I wouldn't be voting you today (for obvious reasons).

Can you explain why MR is bad instead of Made?

You're all over the place.

#938

Mister Rearranger wrote:
thellama73 wrote:If I had my druthers, I would vote for MR today. His scapegoateree of Made has my eyebrow firmly raised, and Made, although deathly wrong about me, is reasoning like a civilian. However, I do not have my durthers, since people still are probably going to try to kill me and I will have to save myself however I can.

Still, I urge people to look at MR.
It's a scapepaca, thank you very much...

wait, scapegoating implies that MR was in hot water. What I can't figure out is MR's angle. If he were mafia at this point, he wouldn't bother making a theory with little to no evidence or support, Right?

I don't think we should vote MR at this point.
Thoughts?
In response to Roxy: what are some normal mafia and Indy win conditions outside of out number town and last man standing? Those are the only ones I know of.

#939

Made wrote:
Mister Rearranger wrote:
thellama73 wrote:If I had my druthers, I would vote for MR today. His scapegoateree of Made has my eyebrow firmly raised, and Made, although deathly wrong about me, is reasoning like a civilian. However, I do not have my durthers, since people still are probably going to try to kill me and I will have to save myself however I can.

Still, I urge people to look at MR.
It's a scapepaca, thank you very much...
wait, scapegoating implies that MR was in hot water. What I can't figure out is MR's angle. If he were mafia at this point, he wouldn't bother making a theory with little to no evidence or support, Right?

I don't think we should vote MR at this point.
Thoughts?
In response to Roxy: what are some normal mafia and Indy win conditions outside of out number town and last man standing? Those are the only ones I know of.

You would like the non-Mafia killer to help you. Who is the non-Mafia killer?

#940

Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Whatever, if I die, I die. Voting MR now.
For what it's worth, I'd like to think I'm an observant person, but I did not want to state that I wouldn't be voting you today (for obvious reasons).

Can you explain why MR is bad instead of Made?

You're all over the place.

Made's posts today have made a lot of sense to me. I think he's reasoning like a civ. He's trying to figure out who the indy is. He's trying to figure out who the baddies are. MR is not saying much. He's playing an under the radar game. He's playing the game of a baddie who thinks he's about to win and who doesn't want to blow it.

Then again, I've been wrong every time this game so far.

#941

Continuation: well we know both puppets, Puppet slayer, and all of team mafia are not alive at this point. As I am neither.
Since AP rezzed in place of know civvie keterman, it's probably safe to say s/he was neither either. Meaning my guess that AP was mafia was wrong.
I still think Bulleye was mafia, and the fact anyone died last night makes me think puppet master is still alive. The murdering of such loud mouth people such as Llama and hedge (stop me if hedge died on an even night)makes me think mafia might of killed these suspect people not because they wanted to outnumber town, they wanted to kill people who. they'd probably thought these people were puppet slayer.

In the most optimal scenarios for Bad felt and puppet slayer, either bad has 3 and puppet has 3 or bad has 4 and puppet has 2. I don't think either of these are very likely, but both are very possible when we consider the fact we haven't lynched a noncivvie yet.
...I just remembered something. Was Llama dead or alive the night no one died, and was that night even?(after thought, this no death also could of been a protection, and I belive pink pill is the only one who can do that this game.)

Linki-epig, I want to say it's Llama, but unless llama really thought bullseye was mafia for sure, why would he kill the person who supported him most?

And it might be crazy to ask support from Indy, but it makes sense to me at this point based on how well mafia seems to be doing. Roxy however made a post suggesting nafia might be weaker than indy atm, so I'm reconsidering, but Iunno.

#942

thellama73 wrote: MR is not saying much. He's playing an under the radar game. He's playing the game of a baddie who thinks he's about to win and who doesn't want to blow it.

Under the radar? You're forgetting how we were the most talkative two people of the entire player list on Day 1? Heck, I've been dancing all over the radar.

I drink your radar.

I drink it up!

Signed,
-Not a baddie. Just another soon-to-be victim of your team, one way or another.

#943

Mister Rearranger wrote:
thellama73 wrote: MR is not saying much. He's playing an under the radar game. He's playing the game of a baddie who thinks he's about to win and who doesn't want to blow it.
Under the radar? You're forgetting how we were the most talkative two people of the entire player list on Day 1? Heck, I've been dancing all over the radar.

I drink your radar.

I drink it up!

Signed,
-Not a baddie. Just another soon-to-be victim of your team, one way or another.

You can talk without standing out, as you have been doing excellently.

#944

^Story of my life...

#945

Just a thought, Isn't MR and Llama kinda voting so early very suspicious? especially when considering Llama agrees with me that voting as a group is very much required in order to make sure Mafia doesn't manipulate votes.

I think we should Lynch Llama. If Puppets are active, then they might be doing well if not better than mafia, if not, Considering the fact the game is still even going at this point, Mafia doesn't have 4 people alive right now(assuming win conditions is just out number town), we'd have at least another day/night cycle to lynch a mafia.

I will wait to vote, not to save myself, but because i want to make sure we don't spread our votes too thin.

#946

Come on, Made. I defended you.

#947

thellama73 wrote:Come on, Made. I defended you.

I know you did, But that doesn't mean I can't be suspicious of you. As i've said, the reason i'm suspicious of you is because you voted early and your vote seemed strange. Refute those point or make a strong argument against MR, who at this point, I don't understand the arguments against.

#948

Made wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Come on, Made. I defended you.
I know you did, But that doesn't mean I can't be suspicious of you. As i've said, the reason i'm suspicious of you is because you voted early and your vote seemed strange. Refute those point or make a strong argument against MR, who at this point, I don't understand the arguments against.

Okay, honestly, I voted early because I saw what was going to happen if I didn't. Either I was going to get lynched, or you were. I know that I am civ. I am beginning to believe that you are civ. I voted because I believe MR to be bad, and I was hoping my vote would generate discusion and lead other people to the same conclusion. I don't have a strong, evidence-based case to make against MR. But I have played with him before, and I do think I recognize his baddie game. He is very good at staying out of the spotlight while simultaneously appearing like an active participant. Why has no one talked much about him until now? Because he's been doing exactly what good baddies do. They blend. They let the vocal go-getters like me make mistakes and follow along for the ride, gleefully watching as civ after civ is lynched while the blood remains off their hands.

Call it gut, if you want. But that's how I feel right now.

#949

thellama73 wrote:
Made wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Come on, Made. I defended you.
I know you did, But that doesn't mean I can't be suspicious of you. As i've said, the reason i'm suspicious of you is because you voted early and your vote seemed strange. Refute those point or make a strong argument against MR, who at this point, I don't understand the arguments against.
Okay, honestly, I voted early because I saw what was going to happen if I didn't. Either I was going to get lynched, or you were. I know that I am civ. I am beginning to believe that you are civ. I voted because I believe MR to be bad, and I was hoping my vote would generate discusion and lead other people to the same conclusion. I don't have a strong, evidence-based case to make against MR. But I have played with him before, and I do think I recognize his baddie game. He is very good at staying out of the spotlight while simultaneously appearing like an active participant. Why has no one talked much about him until now? Because he's been doing exactly what good baddies do. They blend. They let the vocal go-getters like me make mistakes and follow along for the ride, gleefully watching as civ after civ is lynched while the blood remains off their hands.

Call it gut, if you want. But that's how I feel right now.

Do you know why/how you were rezzied or how you avoid a lynch potentionally twice now?

#950

Made wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Made wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Come on, Made. I defended you.
I know you did, But that doesn't mean I can't be suspicious of you. As i've said, the reason i'm suspicious of you is because you voted early and your vote seemed strange. Refute those point or make a strong argument against MR, who at this point, I don't understand the arguments against.
Okay, honestly, I voted early because I saw what was going to happen if I didn't. Either I was going to get lynched, or you were. I know that I am civ. I am beginning to believe that you are civ. I voted because I believe MR to be bad, and I was hoping my vote would generate discusion and lead other people to the same conclusion. I don't have a strong, evidence-based case to make against MR. But I have played with him before, and I do think I recognize his baddie game. He is very good at staying out of the spotlight while simultaneously appearing like an active participant. Why has no one talked much about him until now? Because he's been doing exactly what good baddies do. They blend. They let the vocal go-getters like me make mistakes and follow along for the ride, gleefully watching as civ after civ is lynched while the blood remains off their hands.

Call it gut, if you want. But that's how I feel right now.
Do you know why/how you were rezzied or how you avoid a lynch potentionally twice now?

I don't know who rezzed me, but I do know about the lynch saves.

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