MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:35 pm
@hollowkatt how earnest was Michelle's solving in DVC? I feel like it'd be pretty obvious whether she really was town. Can you talk more about that? You mentioned Michelle and Ender both claimed to have flipped wrong in DVC and both wanted Scotty dead?
Also have you explained how it is you came to be still alive?
Michelle wasn't earnestly solving in DVC. She maintained that she flipped wrong but didn't work to solve anyone living.
We were given an option to send a name to someone that if they were alive would kill the named person. I advocated TH, everyone else who participated advocated Scotty. I think Honey was most vocal there.
I am alive b/c I had a 10% chance to resurrect. That ability isn't in my "role" it's in my "card", like the cards we all got to start the game that could be traded, it's in there.
scotty I think is town b/c of his wim even as we were closing in on martin yesterday and TH today.
Like if he's a wolf he just shuts up and keeps his head down here I think.
Ender started independent wagons on Creature and Scotty when he could have gone elsewhere onto town. I give more credence to the Scotty wagon since HK wasn't being yeeted D1
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:22 pm
Nah it is a way better idea than that.
In the meantime I do need everyone to work out who we should chop tomorrow. I am still thinking C4 but I could be persuaded on Scotty.
Wait but that's dumb
Then persuade me.
Onto Scotty? No
Did I say a name.
Oh ok
Read LC's posts
Literally just can't speak to whatever tf happened with the soup because of the combination of not knowing what happened and not getting lolmech in general, but it sounds like lolmech
If it's not me or listo then either you chop obvtown Scotty or you realize you've been lolmech'd
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 pm
That said it does say same alignment he had. And I guess there is room for him having been mafia to begin with.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:22 pm
Nah it is a way better idea than that.
In the meantime I do need everyone to work out who we should chop tomorrow. I am still thinking C4 but I could be persuaded on Scotty.
Wait but that's dumb
Then persuade me.
Onto Scotty? No
Did I say a name.
Oh ok
Read LC's posts
Literally just can't speak to whatever tf happened with the soup because of the combination of not knowing what happened and not getting lolmech in general, but it sounds like lolmech
If it's not me or listo then either you chop obvtown Scotty or you realize you've been lolmech'd
I ask again if the soup kill was a charade then where is the real one? It is just real.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 pm
scotty I think is town b/c of his wim even as we were closing in on martin yesterday and TH today.
Like if he's a wolf he just shuts up and keeps his head down here I think.
what's giving me paranoia about Scotty is entirely D2
Scum fought against or ignored the fact that he was a free yeet
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 pm
scotty I think is town b/c of his wim even as we were closing in on martin yesterday and TH today.
Like if he's a wolf he just shuts up and keeps his head down here I think.
what's giving me paranoia about Scotty is entirely D2
Scum fought against or ignored the fact that he was a free yeet
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 pm
scotty I think is town b/c of his wim even as we were closing in on martin yesterday and TH today.
Like if he's a wolf he just shuts up and keeps his head down here I think.
what's giving me paranoia about Scotty is entirely D2
Scum fought against or ignored the fact that he was a free yeet
except nanook, nanook was the first person to jump on scotty, I joined him, then went back to TSP. I don't recall anyone else voting scotty though.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:22 pm
Nah it is a way better idea than that.
In the meantime I do need everyone to work out who we should chop tomorrow. I am still thinking C4 but I could be persuaded on Scotty.
Wait but that's dumb
Then persuade me.
Onto Scotty? No
Did I say a name.
Oh ok
Read LC's posts
Literally just can't speak to whatever tf happened with the soup because of the combination of not knowing what happened and not getting lolmech in general, but it sounds like lolmech
If it's not me or listo then either you chop obvtown Scotty or you realize you've been lolmech'd
I ask again if the soup kill was a charade then where is the real one? It is just real.
Strictly speaking, mafia might be able to submit a real soup on themselves and putting a wrong role down.
But that's so lol. We know that your and my guesses was accurate, Alison is almost certainly and they got her wrong for apparently valid reasons according to her. I forgot where they got Lime Coke doctor tbh
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:22 pm
Nah it is a way better idea than that.
In the meantime I do need everyone to work out who we should chop tomorrow. I am still thinking C4 but I could be persuaded on Scotty.
Wait but that's dumb
Then persuade me.
Onto Scotty? No
Did I say a name.
Oh ok
Read LC's posts
Literally just can't speak to whatever tf happened with the soup because of the combination of not knowing what happened and not getting lolmech in general, but it sounds like lolmech
If it's not me or listo then either you chop obvtown Scotty or you realize you've been lolmech'd
I ask again if the soup kill was a charade then where is the real one? It is just real.
C4's refusal to accept that Scotty could be a wolf is unlikely to be town mindset imo. It doesn't necessarily make Scotty mafia but I can't see how a townie in C4's position wouldn't be paranoid at min of Scotty.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 pm
scotty I think is town b/c of his wim even as we were closing in on martin yesterday and TH today.
Like if he's a wolf he just shuts up and keeps his head down here I think.
what's giving me paranoia about Scotty is entirely D2
Scum fought against or ignored the fact that he was a free yeet
except nanook, nanook was the first person to jump on scotty, I joined him, then went back to TSP. I don't recall anyone else voting scotty though.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:22 pm
Nah it is a way better idea than that.
In the meantime I do need everyone to work out who we should chop tomorrow. I am still thinking C4 but I could be persuaded on Scotty.
I mean I pretty much softed what I did a few times. The fact that I made the right call and some sort of shit ruined my move just killed my wim for this game.
Wait but that's dumb
Then persuade me.
Onto Scotty? No
Did I say a name.
Oh ok
Read LC's posts
Literally just can't speak to whatever tf happened with the soup because of the combination of not knowing what happened and not getting lolmech in general, but it sounds like lolmech
If it's not me or listo then either you chop obvtown Scotty or you realize you've been lolmech'd
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:43 pm
scotty I think is town b/c of his wim even as we were closing in on martin yesterday and TH today.
Like if he's a wolf he just shuts up and keeps his head down here I think.
what's giving me paranoia about Scotty is entirely D2
Scum fought against or ignored the fact that he was a free yeet
except nanook, nanook was the first person to jump on scotty, I joined him, then went back to TSP. I don't recall anyone else voting scotty though.
Mac voted scotty fwiw
cool. I wasn't paying a lot of attention to the scotty votes on account of the whole TSP thing
Oh ok
Read LC's posts
Literally just can't speak to whatever tf happened with the soup because of the combination of not knowing what happened and not getting lolmech in general, but it sounds like lolmech
If it's not me or listo then either you chop obvtown Scotty or you realize you've been lolmech'd
I ask again if the soup kill was a charade then where is the real one? It is just real.
Can it... not... come later on?
It is day 5. When is it coming if not already? The wolves are losing numerical advantage and clearly know at the very least what roles HK and I are. And yet here we are just alive and breathing.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:47 pm
C4's refusal to accept that Scotty could be a wolf is unlikely to be town mindset imo. It doesn't necessarily make Scotty mafia but I can't see how a townie in C4's position wouldn't be paranoid at min of Scotty.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:47 pm
C4's refusal to accept that Scotty could be a wolf is unlikely to be town mindset imo. It doesn't necessarily make Scotty mafia but I can't see how a townie in C4's position wouldn't be paranoid at min of Scotty.
"I mean, I pretty much softed what I did a few times. The fact that I made the right call and some sort of shit ruined my move just killed my wim for this game. "
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:47 pm
C4's refusal to accept that Scotty could be a wolf is unlikely to be town mindset imo. It doesn't necessarily make Scotty mafia but I can't see how a townie in C4's position wouldn't be paranoid at min of Scotty.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:47 pm
C4's refusal to accept that Scotty could be a wolf is unlikely to be town mindset imo. It doesn't necessarily make Scotty mafia but I can't see how a townie in C4's position wouldn't be paranoid at min of Scotty.
C4 I am sorry if you are just an s-tier who subbed into a townslot on day 4 immediately figured out the solve and are getting worked over by a moron. If that's the case I'll take the L.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:52 pm
Your big solve is LC.
LC was god read town by Honey. Soup targeted. And allowed himself to get vanillaised last night.
Where is the wolf there? I would love to see it cuz I scumread him on day 1 and I enjoy being proven right. But the facts don't align.
Godread idgaf
Soup idgaf
Vanillaised, didn't realize, honestly compelling, but smth smth lazy regardless of alignment
Let's just hope it's some dumb shit like listo if you're set here but supposedly he's spewed
Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:57 pm
For my own reference
Mac, Alison, Dolby, HK
Lime Coke (soup)
Listo, Scotty, C4, Nanook
TH
If we elevate someone we're pretty close to winning
tbh out of the someone's that aren't LC the most valid is probs Nanook
LC has more going for him than just soup. As I mentioned.
Nanook has hard townsided. I wolfed with him as this game was starting and he basically just never pushed any wolves. If this meta holds up then he's just town for the fact he left it hang on Ender d1. His need to sheep Alison and I to placate us isn't all encompassing and doesn't overwrite his mafia agenda.
Listo is a bit weird. Could be a wolf. I checked and they have made exactly 10 posts today. Have been camping because they near instantly reacted when I pinged them out yet haven't said or done much at all.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:52 pm
Your big solve is LC.
LC was god read town by Honey. Soup targeted. And allowed himself to get vanillaised last night.
Where is the wolf there? I would love to see it cuz I scumread him on day 1 and I enjoy being proven right. But the facts don't align.
Godread idgaf
Soup idgaf
Vanillaised, didn't realize, honestly compelling, but smth smth lazy regardless of alignment
Let's just hope it's some dumb shit like listo if you're set here but supposedly he's spewed
Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:01 pm
c4 can you give me a peek at who among the non-clears is most sus in your eyes when you get a moment?
listo by default ig?
Nook's barely here but pretty on point when he's here and apparently meta spew pelt smth
Scotty's super towny
listo's been showing conviction and it seems internally consistent and believable and all but still looks like it's in the range of a wolf that said "lemme pick one random thing to scream about"
Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:05 pm
If you have a watch or doctor be on me or Alison tonight in case mafia have a redirector or something
I think the redirector is town. I think they also have a green check because between the n1 kill and the LoMo kill one of them had to have been redirected.
Some heinous charges have been filed by a Prosecutor against Scotty. You all have been selected to serve on Scotty's jury. Each player must decide if Scotty is innocent or guilty by voting in the thread. To cast a guilty vote, you simply vote Scotty in thread like normal.
To cast an innocent vote, you vote anyone OTHER than Scotty in thread. A simple majority (8 players) will be required to pass sentence on Scotty. If the simple majority is achieved, then the Prosecutor may then choose to immediately execute or pardon Scotty. No notice will be given in thread if Scotty is pardoned.
This will not end the day, and the normal end of day elimination will still happen regardless of it Scotty is executed, pardoned, or if no majority is reached.
So the way I read this was that the result was first to 8. 8 votes on Scotty before 8 votes on others and he dies. A lot of people just kept voting as though this wasn't in play. I assume most of them just didn't read it correctly or something?
Some heinous charges have been filed by a Prosecutor against Scotty. You all have been selected to serve on Scotty's jury. Each player must decide if Scotty is innocent or guilty by voting in the thread. To cast a guilty vote, you simply vote Scotty in thread like normal.
To cast an innocent vote, you vote anyone OTHER than Scotty in thread. A simple majority (8 players) will be required to pass sentence on Scotty. If the simple majority is achieved, then the Prosecutor may then choose to immediately execute or pardon Scotty. No notice will be given in thread if Scotty is pardoned.
This will not end the day, and the normal end of day elimination will still happen regardless of it Scotty is executed, pardoned, or if no majority is reached.
So the way I read this was that the result was first to 8. 8 votes on Scotty before 8 votes on others and he dies. A lot of people just kept voting as though this wasn't in play. I assume most of them just didn't read it correctly or something?
yeah a lot of people ignored it. I'd blame the HK/TSP situation for that
Scum did know about it though, since Ender addressed it