[Endgame] Masters of the Universe Mafia

#1251

Ok, I've decided to go with indiglo's nice analysis, done with the help of her boyfriend lol indigo, and pick the spear.

#1252

i also think we have very good reasons for choosing our weapons with some care, i'm not sure if anyone else has noticed but our choices seem to have a major effect on the what happens part of the game, and while it is true that it's all speculation on our part, that doesn't mean it should be "funny"....
that said i think Finko just went *ping*, not a big one, but def gets the eye.

#1253

Voted sword. Sorry quick on phone at movie!

#1254

Kate wrote:Voted sword. Sorry quick on phone at movie!

Which one?

#1255

Snow Dog wrote:
Kate wrote:Voted sword. Sorry quick on phone at movie!
Which one?

There's more than one?!?

#1256

what"s up? shouldn't the night post be up?

#1257

Sorry for the lack of participation, I keep forgetting I'm playing. I'm having a hard time keeping up, but I'm gonna try my best

#1258

I claim victory over this thread!

I shall await my winner's banner in a semi-patient manner.

I'll be in my study.

#1259

#1260

I hope everything is OK with Epignosis

#1261

I'm quite all right. I just crashed is all. With the deadline getting later and later, it was bound to happen. I'll put on a pot of coffee, look things over, and get the night post up.

#1262

Epignosis wrote:I'm quite all right. I just crashed is all. With the deadline getting later and later, it was bound to happen. I'll put on a pot of coffee, look things over, and get the night post up.

Good to hear. It was even later for me. I went to bed at 2:30 am.

#1263

Also very glad to hear you're ok Epi, was a little worried about your dad.

#1264

Night 4: The Fight Against the Ilkort Invasion

The pack of Ilkort warriors swarmed down from the mountainside and began its assault against Avion.

They who had come so far from the south armed themselves with their weapons of choice. A few felt they might do best with their bare hands. The time for preparation was over; the time for war had begun.

AllAlongtheBoardwalk defended himself well, but a bevy of the Ilkort surrounded him. Just as he was about to be hacked to pieces, he vanished. A number of the nearby lizard-men fell from injuries that seemed to be caused by nothing.

The warriors fought throughout the night against the waxing multitude, an unrefined army whose martial skill was visibly lacking. When enough of their number had painted the rocky ground red, the remaining attackers turned back to the caverns from which they came. Battalions of airborne Avionians flew after the routed enemy, bombing them from above.

When the battle was over, the party realized that only one of their number had been killed. They only knew this because they found the tunic he had been wearing shredded to pieces, with bits of flesh and muscle matted in with it. And they found another detached red arm.

“He wasn’t killed by the Ilkort, that’s for sure,” an Avionian defender said.

Russtifinko has been killed by The Horde.

There were four missing PMs.

#1265

Night 4: The Staff of the People’s Voice

Breakfast followed battle. The Council of Avion met, and then summoned the warriors who had thrown themselves into their service. They stood in a great hall before the assembly of the city’s leaders.

The head of the council rose. “We the people of Avion are eternally grateful for your service. If there is anything we can do to show our appreciation, you need only name it.”

At this, an uproarious clamor began among the gathered party. They pointed fingers, raised accusations, and expressed suspicions. In all the commotion, the council gathered no understanding of their saviors’ plight, but rather gained insight of a different- and more obvious- sort.

“Be at peace!” the head of the council called. A hush covered the room, followed by a brief bit of murmuring among the council itself. One of the councilmen hurriedly left the room. Finally, the head spoke again. “It would seem that you are a contentious bunch, able to agree on little, and that your united decisions even then remain thwarted by some unseen disturbances.”

The young man who had left returned with a white staff.

“Behold, the Staff of the People’s Voice,” the head of the council said. “Ah, I have not looked upon it in many years. Ages ago, our people quarreled over everything, and even when we seemed to be in agreement, some with secret purposes of their own would frustrate our efforts.

“The Staff of the People’s Voice was a gift from Zodac long ago. During one of his rare visits to Avion, he presented us with the staff, telling us our inefficient quarreling was disrupting the balance of the universe.” The head of the council chuckled. “We were probably just disturbing his sleep. But with the help of this very staff, we were able to see our decisions through. The only time I can recall that the staff was ineffective was when Zodac himself intervened. Although that is a story for another time.

“And because blindfaeth, the slayer of Ilkorts and champion of Avion, dispatched the greatest number of our foe, we have chosen you to bear the staff. Use it wisely; it is aged, and I know not the amount of power that remains with it. May it provide you resolve and insight as you journey forth from here.”

When they had eaten again, slept a little, and were refreshed, the party moved east.

It is now Day 5. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

#1266

#1267

Epic posts as usual Epig

Glad you're ok~

I will proudly bear this staff and use it to the best of my ability, thank you Avionians

RIPIYWG Russ, I thought you probably were.

#1268

I initially thought Russ was good, then flopped back and forth on him a couple of times. This result makes me think I should trust my intuition.

#1269

RIPIYWG Finko. I was leaning civv on you so I'm sorry to see you go.

BF how cool - you didn't die plus you got some kinda cool "peace" staff.

#1270

Freedom!

#1271

DharmaHelper wrote:Freedom!

Hey! You back to normal?

#1272

DH how did you get out? And were you trying to tell us anything we missed while you were....I'm going to call it insanified?

#1273

RIPIYWG Russ. Like others, I definitely was thinking you were, despite questioning you at the end there.

I've been reading civvie on BF all game, so that survival is very likely a good thing! Awesome that you won the staff as well. Wonder what it does exactly.

And definitely glad DH is back. Damn, man, I'm very much looking forward to what you have to bring to the table!

So I know people have been speculation a lynch switch with BWT and that makes total sense to me. This has happened twice now though, how is that possible? I've been trying to think about it and make a conclusion regarding it. timmer's unanimous lynch came up with Rox, which llama speculated would likely be the work of Zodac, and I agree(d) with that. Now with BWT's near unanimous lynch coming up with BF (who survived, which I think is good), is this because The Horde had a lynch switch? Seems most likely to me.

But here's the weird thing. timmer doesn't even say a single word about BWT. Doesn't vote for BWT. He is the sole voter for BF, which is the only non-DH vote that wasn't for BWT. So then, that makes me wonder, does that mean timmer is still Zodac? Or can he actually be on one of the baddie teams which just so happened to already have a lynch switch, especially The Horde? Or am I just being paranoid? llama or LT, does either of you have confidence that timmer is Zodac?

And do we lynch BWT again today or what? I still think he's bad, and after the fact that it was switched, that only solidifies my viewpoint.

#1274

My top suspect is still bf.

#1275

timmer wrote:My top suspect is still bf.

Why? How confident would you say you are in this?

#1276

Hey DH, welcome back to normalcy, if that's what your post meant!

@MP, I'll be voting bf again today, so that should tell you how confident I am!

Off to work, now.

#1277

Thanks, timmer, that does help. I think. Though I must ask what you think about BWT?

Only now I don't know what the hell is going on here. If Timmer is one of the two indies (Zodac the cosmic enforcer or The Sorceress), that could very well mean he has some sort of info about BF. Does this mean that perhaps the lynch on Day 1 was The Horde (BF) vs. Snake Mountain (Boomslang)? That would give a very different perspective to the way things have gone down since then that I didn't really consider.

Then again, timmer could be on The Horde or even Snake Mountain I guess but I doubt Snake Mountain. How similar or not so much were the two lynch switches? I don't remember the post before telling us that timmer evaded lynch, but this one about BWT did. I actually went ahead and tried to look back just now quickly and didn't find anything that was similar to BWT's lynch switch either. Also, the way the host post talked about timmer being "unconcerned" and that particular excerpt contrasts with the fact that we see nothing from that about BWT.

So it must be asked, unless someone already asked it and I missed it. Robert, are your posts purely for storytelling purposes or are there perhaps any hints as to roles in them in any way whatsoever?

Also, something I didn;'t think about in my previous post -- it's much more possible The Horde or even Snake Mountain could have built up a lynch switch from treasure/technology by now than when Timmer was lynched. Timmer's lynch was all the way back on Day 2, which would have given them one night only.

All of that to say I'm still tempted to think Timmer is Zodac and BWT is on The Horde. But with timmer gunning so hard against BF, I don't know. Was it that the BWT lynch was a distractor? I'm perhaps overanalyzing but I feel like something weird behind the scenes is really going on here. I was reading BF as civvie because of his overdefensiveness and more so because the way the lynch went down (and his behavior thereafter), but I'm considering the possibility I could be wrong. What do other people think?

I need to go study for a while, so I'll let all of these thoughts sit on the back burner.

#1278

Rip russ, IYWG

Also LT I'm thinking she is bad, I mean she appears to civvie tbh

#1279

He-Man wrote:Rip russ, IYWG

Also LT I'm thinking she is bad, I mean she appears to civvie tbh

He Man are you saying you think LT is bad? What leads you to that conclusion? I have been leaning civv on her but I want to understand every opinion.

Also, MP has given me a headache. I'm so twisted up around whether one person or team could have two lynch switches, why no lynch switches are listed in the roles (at least that I saw), can timmer be a benevolent indy and be wrong about bf, etc. I'm going for a jog and see if exercise promotes some insight into this situation.

#1280

Hold on here. I think He-Man might be hexed. There's no way he would say that if he was being logical.

Now the question here is as to who was hexed for the D4-D5 period. Was BF hexed for me, or was timmer hexed for BF?

Fuck you, Skeletor. Seriously.

#1281

Damn this game to hell! I need to study. Okay, I'll be back later, seriously. But there's some really weird crap going on here and I want to know what it is.

#1282

MovingPictures07 wrote:Thanks, timmer, that does help. I think. Though I must ask what you think about BWT?

Only now I don't know what the hell is going on here. If Timmer is one of the two indies (Zodac the cosmic enforcer or The Sorceress), that could very well mean he has some sort of info about BF. Does this mean that perhaps the lynch on Day 1 was The Horde (BF) vs. Snake Mountain (Boomslang)? That would give a very different perspective to the way things have gone down since then that I didn't really consider.

Then again, timmer could be on The Horde or even Snake Mountain I guess but I doubt Snake Mountain. How similar or not so much were the two lynch switches? I don't remember the post before telling us that timmer evaded lynch, but this one about BWT did. I actually went ahead and tried to look back just now quickly and didn't find anything that was similar to BWT's lynch switch either. Also, the way the host post talked about timmer being "unconcerned" and that particular excerpt contrasts with the fact that we see nothing from that about BWT.

So it must be asked, unless someone already asked it and I missed it. Robert, are your posts purely for storytelling purposes or are there perhaps any hints as to roles in them in any way whatsoever?

Also, something I didn;'t think about in my previous post -- it's much more possible The Horde or even Snake Mountain could have built up a lynch switch from treasure/technology by now than when Timmer was lynched. Timmer's lynch was all the way back on Day 2, which would have given them one night only.

All of that to say I'm still tempted to think Timmer is Zodac and BWT is on The Horde. But with timmer gunning so hard against BF, I don't know. Was it that the BWT lynch was a distractor? I'm perhaps overanalyzing but I feel like something weird behind the scenes is really going on here. I was reading BF as civvie because of his overdefensiveness and more so because the way the lynch went down (and his behavior thereafter), but I'm considering the possibility I could be wrong. What do other people think?

I need to go study for a while, so I'll let all of these thoughts sit on the back burner.

Some very interesting thoughts. And if one looks at some of my previous posts you will see I have or had suspicions about BF. Not sure what to think about the BWT survival. Like to hear if he has anything to say.

#1283

@MP, briefly (at work), I believe BWT is very likely bad. It seems much more likely that a baddie trick saved him than anything else. In fact, I would like to see him lynched again, tbh.

#1284

juliets wrote:
He-Man wrote:Rip russ, IYWG

Also LT I'm thinking she is bad, I mean she appears to civvie tbh
He Man are you saying you think LT is bad? What leads you to that conclusion? I have been leaning civv on her but I want to understand every opinion.

Also, MP has given me a headache. I'm so twisted up around whether one person or team could have two lynch switches, why no lynch switches are listed in the roles (at least that I saw), can timmer be a benevolent indy and be wrong about bf, etc. I'm going for a jog and see if exercise promotes some insight into this situation.

Her punctuation is beyond perfect I mean there is not an I without a dot on it.

#1285

He-Man wrote:
juliets wrote:
He-Man wrote:Rip russ, IYWG

Also LT I'm thinking she is bad, I mean she appears to civvie tbh
He Man are you saying you think LT is bad? What leads you to that conclusion? I have been leaning civv on her but I want to understand every opinion.

Also, MP has given me a headache. I'm so twisted up around whether one person or team could have two lynch switches, why no lynch switches are listed in the roles (at least that I saw), can timmer be a benevolent indy and be wrong about bf, etc. I'm going for a jog and see if exercise promotes some insight into this situation.
Her punctuation is beyond perfect I mean there is not an I without a dot on it.

I find it very bizarre that you suddenly turn on LT like this.

#1286

RIP Russ. Not sure if you were good or not.

I definitely feel stronger about BWT than anyone else still, I've found BF fairly civ overall. I'm pretty sure Heman is cursed, given his sudden attack on LT.

Also, what's with AATB disappearing from the fight? Was that just a fancy way of writing that he survived an NK or something?

#1287

Mp, I will point out there is a person that is able to copy known night abilities, so it is possible for two ppl to be hexed. That being said, its obvi not the case bc im not hexed, so what if I still think youre bad??

#1288

MovingPictures07 wrote:RIPIYWG Russ. Like others, I definitely was thinking you were, despite questioning you at the end there.

I've been reading civvie on BF all game, so that survival is very likely a good thing! Awesome that you won the staff as well. Wonder what it does exactly.

And definitely glad DH is back. Damn, man, I'm very much looking forward to what you have to bring to the table!

So I know people have been speculation a lynch switch with BWT and that makes total sense to me. This has happened twice now though, how is that possible? I've been trying to think about it and make a conclusion regarding it. timmer's unanimous lynch came up with Rox, which llama speculated would likely be the work of Zodac, and I agree(d) with that. Now with BWT's near unanimous lynch coming up with BF (who survived, which I think is good), is this because The Horde had a lynch switch? Seems most likely to me.

But here's the weird thing. timmer doesn't even say a single word about BWT. Doesn't vote for BWT. He is the sole voter for BF, which is the only non-DH vote that wasn't for BWT. So then, that makes me wonder, does that mean timmer is still Zodac? Or can he actually be on one of the baddie teams which just so happened to already have a lynch switch, especially The Horde? Or am I just being paranoid? llama or LT, does either of you have confidence that timmer is Zodac?

And do we lynch BWT again today or what? I still think he's bad, and after the fact that it was switched, that only solidifies my viewpoint.

I am pretty convinced of BWT's wickedness. He correctly pegged me as civvie early on and then latched on, agreeing with me whenever it didn't really matter, to divert suspicion from himself. I'd be happy to vote for him today.

I've also been reading BF as civvie since Boomslang's posse tried to lynch her on day one. He-Man has been all over the place. His turn on BF now may be a hex, but his other actions have me pretty sure that he is Horde. I would also be happy to give my vote to him today.

#1289

I am back to normal. For the most part I was trying to say LT is making alot of sense and looks like civvie LT to me.

#1290

Re: the Zodac question. I still think timmer is Zodac, and I've explained why many times, although my doing so led reywaS into a puzzlingly hysterical accusation of me as a Horde member.

#1291

Has Ishar Morrad Chuain said anything this entire game?

#1292

AllAlongTheBoardwalk wrote:Has Ishar Morrad Chuain said anything this entire game?

No. And yet he hasn't been replaced as the others have been. Maybe he's quietly sending in his PMs and just deliberately not posting to stay under the radar.

#1293

thellama73 wrote:
AllAlongTheBoardwalk wrote:Has Ishar Morrad Chuain said anything this entire game?
No. And yet he hasn't been replaced as the others have been. Maybe he's quietly sending in his PMs and just deliberately not posting to stay under the radar.

I am still seeking a replacement for this person. If you know anyone looking to join up, please let them know.

#1294

MovingPictures07 wrote: So it must be asked, unless someone already asked it and I missed it. Robert, are your posts purely for storytelling purposes or are there perhaps any hints as to roles in them in any way whatsoever?

Epignosis wrote:
reywaS wrote: Epignosis: Are you giving role hints in the posts? Or are they just for story?
The narrative in this event is intended to be a marriage of the Masters of the Universe mythology and the data (read: outcomes) produced by the players performing their roles as they were established from the beginning.

One would therefore be mistaken in thinking that the narrative is purely ornamental, but one would be equally mistaken in thinking that I am "giving role hints."

#1295

timmer wrote:@MP, briefly (at work), I believe BWT is very likely bad. It seems much more likely that a baddie trick saved him than anything else. In fact, I would like to see him lynched again, tbh.

I agree with you entirely here. Thanks for the thoughts though.

DFaraday wrote:RIP Russ. Not sure if you were good or not.

I definitely feel stronger about BWT than anyone else still, I've found BF fairly civ overall. I'm pretty sure Heman is cursed, given his sudden attack on LT.

Also, what's with AATB disappearing from the fight? Was that just a fancy way of writing that he survived an NK or something?

I'm glad others feel the same way about BWT. I doubt he'd be able to get out of two lynches in a row like that, too, but I'm trying to make sure I analyze everything.

You know, that's a good question. I think maybe you're right, but it couldn't be an NK from anyone in particular, was it?

blindfaeth wrote:Mp, I will point out there is a person that is able to copy known night abilities, so it is possible for two ppl to be hexed. That being said, its obvi not the case bc im not hexed, so what if I still think youre bad??

Ha, you are right here, that is entirely possible. I didn't think of that. I was freaking because I didn't understand how 2 people could be hexed.

If you still think I'm bad, by all means, but I'd like to be able to defend myself against any accusations which I haven't already.

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote: So it must be asked, unless someone already asked it and I missed it. Robert, are your posts purely for storytelling purposes or are there perhaps any hints as to roles in them in any way whatsoever?

Epignosis wrote:
reywaS wrote: Epignosis: Are you giving role hints in the posts? Or are they just for story?
The narrative in this event is intended to be a marriage of the Masters of the Universe mythology and the data (read: outcomes) produced by the players performing their roles as they were established from the beginning.

One would therefore be mistaken in thinking that the narrative is purely ornamental, but one would be equally mistaken in thinking that I am "giving role hints."

I thought you answered this, I forgot though. Thanks for bringing this back up.

#1296

thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:RIPIYWG Russ. Like others, I definitely was thinking you were, despite questioning you at the end there.

I've been reading civvie on BF all game, so that survival is very likely a good thing! Awesome that you won the staff as well. Wonder what it does exactly.

And definitely glad DH is back. Damn, man, I'm very much looking forward to what you have to bring to the table!

So I know people have been speculation a lynch switch with BWT and that makes total sense to me. This has happened twice now though, how is that possible? I've been trying to think about it and make a conclusion regarding it. timmer's unanimous lynch came up with Rox, which llama speculated would likely be the work of Zodac, and I agree(d) with that. Now with BWT's near unanimous lynch coming up with BF (who survived, which I think is good), is this because The Horde had a lynch switch? Seems most likely to me.

But here's the weird thing. timmer doesn't even say a single word about BWT. Doesn't vote for BWT. He is the sole voter for BF, which is the only non-DH vote that wasn't for BWT. So then, that makes me wonder, does that mean timmer is still Zodac? Or can he actually be on one of the baddie teams which just so happened to already have a lynch switch, especially The Horde? Or am I just being paranoid? llama or LT, does either of you have confidence that timmer is Zodac?

And do we lynch BWT again today or what? I still think he's bad, and after the fact that it was switched, that only solidifies my viewpoint.
I am pretty convinced of BWT's wickedness. He correctly pegged me as civvie early on and then latched on, agreeing with me whenever it didn't really matter, to divert suspicion from himself. I'd be happy to vote for him today.

I've also been reading BF as civvie since Boomslang's posse tried to lynch her on day one. He-Man has been all over the place. His turn on BF now may be a hex, but his other actions have me pretty sure that he is Horde. I would also be happy to give my vote to him today.

Also, you remit confidence here with regard to He-Man being on Horde. Why, could you elaborate?

#1297

juliets wrote:
Also, MP has given me a headache. I'm so twisted up around whether one person or team could have two lynch switches, why no lynch switches are listed in the roles (at least that I saw), can timmer be a benevolent indy and be wrong about bf, etc. I'm going for a jog and see if exercise promotes some insight into this situation.

Maybe we are confused about the lynch switches because they aren't lynch switches at all. The roles in this game are not vanilla roles - so many abilities, so many secrets. Look at the lynchings, or lack of lynchings, as independent variables. BWT was almost lynched, but was saved. Someone tried to kill BF but wasn't successful. This doesn't mean these two assaults are connected.

I say we try to lynch BWT again. I definitely think he is baddie.

#1298

thellama73 wrote:
AllAlongTheBoardwalk wrote:Has Ishar Morrad Chuain said anything this entire game?
No. And yet he hasn't been replaced as the others have been. Maybe he's quietly sending in his PMs and just deliberately not posting to stay under the radar.

Well, I tend to believe that if he were on a baddie team, they would be pushing for epig to find a replacement. However, depending on the host, sometimes they will allow you to send your teammates night action in because you have btsc. Beyond that all you can really do is visit their member page and see when was the last time they logged in.

Linki mp and eloh, on my phone.

#1299

Have we heard from reywaS yet? I know he was going to be out of town but I wanted to see his thoughts after he was (assumedly) silenced for the previous day, especially since he had a lot to say the period before that.

Linki with BF: I think it's near impossible to tell if Ishar is a baddie for that reason. I guess it would depend on if teammates have been able to send in his night action, if he is bad.

#1300

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Also, you remit confidence here with regard to He-Man being on Horde. Why, could you elaborate?

He was quick to ally himself with reywaS when accusing me of being Horde, he was quick to follow your compelled vote for DH and his positions have been all over the map. He hasn't played consistently and I don't trust him. Why Horde as opposed to Snake Mountain? Call it a hunch.

I still want to get rid of BWT today, though. In fact, I'll be the one to start the bidding.

Votes BWT