Buckets: War of the GOATs [END]

#2701

1) There is no way he really thinks that this is a hammer game, nanook has already explicitly commented on the lack of hammer.

2) Self hammering is wolfy, not townie, because it cuts the day short.

3) Self hammering yourself without it being a hammer is extremely performative.

#2702

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:57 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:53 pm I don't feel like reading right now. Can someone tell me why Transcend is not top wagon any more?
Ur other wolf read is

In fact ur top two wolves r competing

Why is this ur reaction

I figured if u saw us competing you'd be quite joyous

Because overnight I was starting to think that the team could be you and Ender.

#2703

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:00 pm @JaggedJimmyJay jagg

I'm hammered now flip me

Next game just sheep esooa on me. Good luck tomorrow <3

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:14 pm Fwiw i was vote number 5, i wanted to see if anyone would quickblitz me and sure enough alexa sniped me at vote #6.

U played well but ur outed now. Pls don't let her slide out of this, cause she will

what do you make of this, Alison?

#2704

I am committing to vote parking Transcend until he dies for that self hammer BS. Even if he really believed it was a hammer, it's exactly what you do when you're mafia who can't dig yourself out of a hole, you antispew for a bit and self hammer and cut the day short.

#2705

i thought the second line was performative

#2706

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:59 pm I am committing to vote parking Transcend until he dies for that self hammer BS. Even if he really believed it was a hammer, it's exactly what you do when you're mafia who can't dig yourself out of a hole, you antispew for a bit and self hammer and cut the day short.

he didn't exactly self-hammer

he self-voted then called me scum who hammered him

#2707

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:58 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:00 pm @JaggedJimmyJay jagg

I'm hammered now flip me

Next game just sheep esooa on me. Good luck tomorrow <3

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:14 pm Fwiw i was vote number 5, i wanted to see if anyone would quickblitz me and sure enough alexa sniped me at vote #6.

U played well but ur outed now. Pls don't let her slide out of this, cause she will
what do you make of this, Alison?

There is also no way that he believes that a scum Alexa who has gone deep would decided to randomly out to snipe hammer the easiest misexe in the universe. It's all performative and I can't believe you guys are dumb enough to fall for it.

Vote Transcend.

#2708

Mmmmm....damn

#2709

I will be catching up when I feel like reading 20 pages but I think it is extraordinarily silly to clear him for this shit.

#2710

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:59 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:58 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:00 pm @JaggedJimmyJay jagg

I'm hammered now flip me

Next game just sheep esooa on me. Good luck tomorrow <3

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:14 pm Fwiw i was vote number 5, i wanted to see if anyone would quickblitz me and sure enough alexa sniped me at vote #6.

U played well but ur outed now. Pls don't let her slide out of this, cause she will
what do you make of this, Alison?
There is also no way that he believes that a scum Alexa who has gone deep would decided to randomly out to snipe hammer the easiest misexe in the universe. It's all performative and I can't believe you guys are dumb enough to fall for it.

Vote Transcend.

i mean that's what i thought. i was surprised more people didn't agree

#2711

[VOTE: transcend] aubergine

#2712

Fine. You're probably right.

#2713

Trans please, stop the self voting.

Can you talk me through your scumread on blade?

#2714

If Trans was a wolf and actually thought he was self hammering then he probably would have had to do it without checking with his teammate first because I don't think there's any other player in this game who would thing that there was a hammer D1. And to add to that I just don't think he leaves such a weird read on Alexa as a legacy when he would literally be self hammering to avoid spew.

I'm a world where Trans is a wolf his "self hammer" stunt was almost surely a calculated move. I'm taking my baseline from there.

#2715

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:16 pm If Trans was a wolf and actually thought he was self hammering then he probably would have had to do it without checking with his teammate first because I don't think there's any other player in this game who would thing that there was a hammer D1. And to add to that I just don't think he leaves such a weird read on Alexa as a legacy when he would literally be self hammering to avoid spew.

I'm a world where Trans is a wolf his "self hammer" stunt was almost surely a calculated move. I'm taking my baseline from there.

again, he didn't self-hammer
he self-voted then acted like i wolf-claimed for hammering

and now he's self-voting again

honestly don't find it villagery

#2716

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:17 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:16 pm If Trans was a wolf and actually thought he was self hammering then he probably would have had to do it without checking with his teammate first because I don't think there's any other player in this game who would thing that there was a hammer D1. And to add to that I just don't think he leaves such a weird read on Alexa as a legacy when he would literally be self hammering to avoid spew.

I'm a world where Trans is a wolf his "self hammer" stunt was almost surely a calculated move. I'm taking my baseline from there.
again, he didn't self-hammer
he self-voted then acted like i wolf-claimed for hammering

and now he's self-voting again

honestly don't find it villagery

Oh yeah that happened anyway lol.

So it was 100% a calculated move if wolf. I don't have anywhere I wanted to go with this atm I'm just trying to build a narrative that works.

#2717

Wait I don't get it.

Why does Transcend announce he self hammered if he's only at 5 votes, regardless of alignment? Surely there's no way he could have predicted alexa "hammering" him?

#2718

Oh, did he only announce the hammer after the 6th vote was cast on him from alexa?

Ignore me I'm an idiot lol.

#2719

he announced that he was hammered, he never said self-hammered, that's what i'm trying to say

#2720

like i may be overly nitpicky and tunneled but alison agreeing with me fuels me, i just literally don't think his "alexa just hammered and outed" day 1 in a 9 v 2 mountanous is ever a real thought from him

#2721

I don't actually think Transcend is an outed wolf BTW.

I do think that he flips today in almost every world now and I'm mostly just trying to solve him for vanity reasons but still.

#2722

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:28 pm he announced that he was hammered, he never said self-hammered, that's what i'm trying to say

Yeah that makes a lot more sense now tbh.

But that also means the whole "Transcend self hammered so is an outed wolf" read is wrong as well? If he only announced the self hammer but didn't actually cast it.

#2723

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:31 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:28 pm he announced that he was hammered, he never said self-hammered, that's what i'm trying to say
Yeah that makes a lot more sense now tbh.

But that also means the whole "Transcend self hammered so is an outed wolf" read is wrong as well? If he only announced the self hammer but didn't actually cast it.

that was Alison's read which i explained to her was not actually the case

#2724

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:30 pm like i may be overly nitpicky and tunneled but alison agreeing with me fuels me, i just literally don't think his "alexa just hammered and outed" day 1 in a 9 v 2 mountanous is ever a real thought from him

This might be right though, I'll look again.

I thought the second post was really iffy but I thought the first was honestly really towny at the time.

#2725

I should just ignore AtE tbh.

#2726

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:33 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:30 pm like i may be overly nitpicky and tunneled but alison agreeing with me fuels me, i just literally don't think his "alexa just hammered and outed" day 1 in a 9 v 2 mountanous is ever a real thought from him
This might be right though, I'll look again.

I thought the second post was really iffy but I thought the first was honestly really towny at the time.

the first one was kind of towny if you believe that he actually thought he was hammered

i'm not sure how much i believe it atp considering it was discussed earlier that there's no majority

#2727

Yeah, whatever. Flip Transcend at this point.

I might come back to this later but it's a hugecwaste of time trying to solve him if this is how the game is going to be anyway.

#2728

wiml is a wolf though

#2729

Matt please don't keep self voting if you're town. You're accomplishing nothing but stifling discussion.

You're complaining that nobody else will be talked about but by magnifying the attention on yourself you're just making that issue ten times worse.

#2730

@alexa what's your read on Nanook atm?

#2731

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:42 pm wiml is a wolf though

Can you at least answer my question please?

#2732

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:42 pm Matt please don't keep self voting if you're town. You're accomplishing nothing but stifling discussion.

You're complaining that nobody else will be talked about but by magnifying the attention on yourself you're just making that issue ten times worse.

I'm not

#2733

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:43 pm @alexa what's your read on Nanook atm?

shrug. could go either way, he's in my POE. i still dislike his push on ilario and it feels like he has gone into this game with "ilario is a wolf" rather than trying to solve ilario's alignment (which contrasts imo to alison's treatment of ilario).

#2734

Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:47 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:42 pm Matt please don't keep self voting if you're town. You're accomplishing nothing but stifling discussion.

You're complaining that nobody else will be talked about but by magnifying the attention on yourself you're just making that issue ten times worse.
I'm not

Will you talk me through both of your scumreads then please?

If you want conversation not to be about you then I need you to contribute to that as well lol.

#2735

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:47 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:43 pm @alexa what's your read on Nanook atm?
shrug. could go either way, he's in my POE. i still dislike his push on ilario and it feels like he has gone into this game with "ilario is a wolf" rather than trying to solve ilario's alignment (which contrasts imo to alison's treatment of ilario).

Honestly the illario wagon is garbage and the fact that Nook is parked on there is what made me move to him over Mac earlier.

#2736

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:42 pm wiml is a wolf though

i dunno why you think that considering he seems like one of the only people actually trying to solve transcend's alignment

#2737

i'm kind of baffled by esooa's read on wiml because he doesn't seem any less obviously villagery to me than his other games
i think it's honestly towny for her but confusing

#2738

I dunno I don't really want to explain it right now cause I'd rather explain it when I'm more sure I'm right lol

#2739

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:01 pm I dunno I don't really want to explain it right now cause I'd rather explain it when I'm more sure I'm right lol

I really want to hear it tbh.

#2740

whys that

#2741

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:06 pmwhys that

You'll see lol.

#2742

I think Transcend is outed because he was so happy to get the wagon off him and then when I came back online and buried him he went silent and his two word response to Wiml telling him not to self vote seemed really dejected.

#2743

I am not in a great mood atm and am likely going to chill for a bit. Sorry for being late in catching up. My vote won't change today.

#2744

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:09 pm I am not in a great mood atm and am likely going to chill for a bit. Sorry for being late in catching up. My vote won't change today.

Same

#2745

Cool so he's committing to voteparking sleep. He is fully outed now. He is probably quiet to minimize spew.

#2746

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:12 pm Cool so he's committing to voteparking sleep. He is fully outed now. He is probably quiet to minimize spew.

But it's the best option?

#2747

Yeah Transcend flips today tbh.

#2748

Anyways you've all wasted this day, u exhausted all ur energy on me and I've exhausted all mine on u

U don't tr me fine. I'm not gonna fight anymore because with me gone, surely you'll have a better day tomorrow

#2749

Possible partners are:

Ender for playing up the "oh D1 consensus is always a miss" angle and consistently pushing for Mac over Transcend if given the slightest choice

Esooa for trying twice to defend him for meta reasons

Nanook for hard defending him and hard attacking people who suspect him

Mac because he always busses D1 when he plays wolf against me. The setup despises bussing though so give him a bit of space, take out the other two first

#2750

Bye for now.

HAMMER IS 3