Buckets: War of the GOATs [END]

[ilario]

also mac, i was right on u

its not tmi

its me being the goat

[ilario]

[ilario]

Never seen lime make such a big case like that before lols

Could explain why me and Alexa are alive

Scum!lime sees me and Alexa willing to vote nanook Yesterday
Decides to make a big case overnight
Hopes we yeet nanook

Plan backfires and lime gets flipped
Turns out I was right about the slip

[ilario]

Also the fact that alexa and ilario are both still alive atp pretty strongly suggests one of them is mafia

that's pretty not true, ilario and i have been left alive for awhile as t/t because we were either pushing wrong reads or people were pushing on us

and alison was, as you noted, a common N1 kill
and Syn was a wildcard who subbed into a universally townread slot

like yeah it makes me want to re-val him but i don't think it strongly suggests anything. in fact he tends to kill me pretty early when he's scum because he feels bad manipulating me, i can show you examples

I wouldn’t kill u too early though because I’m bias and want u to have fun

I would probably kill u just before lylo

You don’t need to worry though cos I’m town this game

And yeah ur probs dying tonight regardless of who maf is (which is unironically right before lylo if we misyeet

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa

Hell yeah

[ilario]

Also the fact that alexa and ilario are both still alive atp pretty strongly suggests one of them is mafia

that's pretty not true, ilario and i have been left alive for awhile as t/t because we were either pushing wrong reads or people were pushing on us

and alison was, as you noted, a common N1 kill
and Syn was a wildcard who subbed into a universally townread slot

like yeah it makes me want to re-val him but i don't think it strongly suggests anything. in fact he tends to kill me pretty early when he's scum because he feels bad manipulating me, i can show you examples

I think any team with players who are experienced with you and illario would never allow you both to be alive in F7 if t/t, only because even if your reasons for townreading each other are bad I think I have literally never seen you reevaluate each other once locked in for like the 10+ games we've played together.

Has one of them ever gotten the other wrong

EM players are historically dreadful at misclearing each other lol but I think alexa/illario are pretty good at reading each other correctly (or at least alexa is at illario, I've never seen wolf alexa town illario before).

Fwiw that illario wolf game I linked you ages ago ended recently where alexa initially tunneled him really hard but came round to calling him 95% likely town. She was wrong in the end but her confidence in him being town was a lot less than it was here.

This is also the reason why I said my illario read was out of my wolfrange yesterday but that's another topic.

Last time she had a wolf game that I was speccing

I saw two posts and messaged her on discord

“Ur mafia”

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyway do we need to drag this day out? It's fairly clear wiml is almost certainly dying, we have over 5000 posts to make reads on, and we can build clear worlds around wiml's flip either way imo

So yeah I say we hammer and go from there

[ilario]

nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa

Hell yeah

We probably need to work our shit out now since we ‘re close to lylo and the numbers are small

Why did you fos me earlier?

[ilario]

Anyway do we need to drag this day out? It's fairly clear wiml is almost certainly dying, we have over 5000 posts to make reads on, and we can build clear worlds around wiml's flip either way imo

So yeah I say we hammer and go from there

Why do u want wiml over the guy who literally made an entire case on you and then spoke to you like ur town right after lmao

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa

Hell yeah

We probably need to work our shit out now since we ‘re close to lylo and the numbers are small

Why did you fos me earlier?

Meh we can work it out tomorrow, I want to see nk first

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyway do we need to drag this day out? It's fairly clear wiml is almost certainly dying, we have over 5000 posts to make reads on, and we can build clear worlds around wiml's flip either way imo

So yeah I say we hammer and go from there

Why do u want wiml over the guy who literally made an entire case on you and then spoke to you like ur town right after lmao

Yeah that's weird and I commented on it at the time but

Its not really >rand scum ime, and he's otherwise i think outside what I've seen of his scumrange. Mac and Alison have both flipped green so I don't think he's likely to have a partner to coach him that well. Not that nobody alive is capable of it, I just don't see it as likely.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Ender v lime is interesting tho

[ilario]

nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa

Hell yeah

We probably need to work our shit out now since we ‘re close to lylo and the numbers are small

Why did you fos me earlier?

Meh we can work it out tomorrow, I want to see nk first

The only world the nk isn’t me or alexa this game is if the team is exactly me/alexa.

[ilario]

nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa

Hell yeah

Also why is this ur reaction to my tr on you? Arent u more paranoid considering u spent a great deal of time scumrrading me ?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa

Hell yeah

We probably need to work our shit out now since we ‘re close to lylo and the numbers are small

Why did you fos me earlier?

Meh we can work it out tomorrow, I want to see nk first

The only world the nk isn’t me or alexa this game is if the team is exactly me/alexa.

I mean sure probably true but I still want to see it before we bother

Like if you're the nk then its a pointless conversation to have now lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa

Hell yeah

Also why is this ur reaction to my tr on you? Arent u more paranoid considering u spent a great deal of time scumrrading me ?

A townread from anyone is worthy of a hell yeah

[ilario]

Anyway do we need to drag this day out? It's fairly clear wiml is almost certainly dying, we have over 5000 posts to make reads on, and we can build clear worlds around wiml's flip either way imo

So yeah I say we hammer and go from there

Why do u want wiml over the guy who literally made an entire case on you and then spoke to you like ur town right after lmao

Yeah that's weird and I commented on it at the time but

Its not really >rand scum ime, and he's otherwise i think outside what I've seen of his scumrange. Mac and Alison have both flipped green so I don't think he's likely to have a partner to coach him that well. Not that nobody alive is capable of it, I just don't see it as likely.

he doesnt need much coaching, he has all his past games and plays the exact same way each game.

all he has to do is copy and paste the exact same lines lmao

[ilario]

nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa

Hell yeah

Also why is this ur reaction to my tr on you? Arent u more paranoid considering u spent a great deal of time scumrrading me ?

A townread from anyone is worthy of a hell yeah

LMAOO ur growing on me

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyway do we need to drag this day out? It's fairly clear wiml is almost certainly dying, we have over 5000 posts to make reads on, and we can build clear worlds around wiml's flip either way imo

So yeah I say we hammer and go from there

Why do u want wiml over the guy who literally made an entire case on you and then spoke to you like ur town right after lmao

Yeah that's weird and I commented on it at the time but

Its not really >rand scum ime, and he's otherwise i think outside what I've seen of his scumrange. Mac and Alison have both flipped green so I don't think he's likely to have a partner to coach him that well. Not that nobody alive is capable of it, I just don't see it as likely.

he doesnt need much coaching, he has all his past games and plays the exact same way each game.

all he has to do is copy and paste the exact same lines lmao

Meh he didn't manage anything nearly that high effort in the joat game we just played where he was scum, iirc

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa

Hell yeah

Also why is this ur reaction to my tr on you? Arent u more paranoid considering u spent a great deal of time scumrrading me ?

A townread from anyone is worthy of a hell yeah

LMAOO ur growing on me

[ilario]

i have ilario's ISO open and i still feel beyond confident that he's a villager. i can case it if needed but like i'm pretty sure if you engage with him at all you'll see it..

i doon't know why we're both alive. i can only assume it's because we're loud thread voices who have been pushing terrible reads and scum only needs one more ML to LYLO. if we're both alive in LYLO i'll spot-check more

HEYYYYYYY i take offence to this tbh i havent pushed much this game i been chillin i said mac was town and i unvoted of trans until he gave up but thats more of a policy thing for me

that being said i probably have a terrible read somewhere in my iso

[ilario]

eh you don't kill ilario because nanook and tsp are liable to go full on mac sheep

macs read on me wasnt real
he was thinking emotionally instead of logically because half the lobby treated him like an outed wolf for no reasons,and thats why i specifically knew he was town. because ive been in his position where people paranoia-fos me or fearfos me and then u start reading with ego.

[ilario]

i can find more quotes of mac townreading me than i can find of him scumreading me if i bothered to look in his iso, and every time he srd me its when he was acting up.

[ilario]

i think nanook telling lime to call his vote is maybe arbitrarily nagl

why

[ilario]

Alexa if you're the third wolf in any world where I'm a wolf then fine.

But we just kill the ayer you're hard shielding with completely different pushes to you for most of the day.

read my posts and tell me i'm shielding ilario any more than i'm shielding esooa? the only reason it's obvious is because NO ONE else sussed esooa. this discussion is pointless. if you're arguing that esooa was ever a plausible push then prove it

I know you. I know you woukd never in a million years let illario get chopped here regardless of his alignment lol.

i feel like wiml is overplaying how much he knows how we play?

and idk if its coming from a place of a cocky town or just a mafia spouting bs?

because im reading all his posts and im like ????

ive only ever been lynched once in a pre-lylo situation since i started playing FM and that was purely because i got death tunneled by alexa for tinfoiling her.

she would absolutely push me if she thought i had a scum alignment

[ilario]

actually nah, wiml is probs just town

id say its lc as wolf

[ilario]

[VOTE: lime coke] aubergine

[ilario]

^ Fwiw I mostly did that Vote for emphasis at the time

I’ll re-eval once I read lc’s case though

[ilario]

Also i do think the why is alexa/Illario tinfoil alive mostly pretty needless atm

I do think the greater question of why is alexa/ilario alive if BOTH lc and wiml are town is another question that’s probably more relevant here

[ilario]

And that’s partly what’s dictating my vote atm

[ilario]

Anyway do we need to drag this day out? It's fairly clear wiml is almost certainly dying, we have over 5000 posts to make reads on, and we can build clear worlds around wiml's flip either way imo

So yeah I say we hammer and go from there

Why do u want wiml over the guy who literally made an entire case on you and then spoke to you like ur town right after lmao

Yeah that's weird and I commented on it at the time but

Its not really >rand scum ime, and he's otherwise i think outside what I've seen of his scumrange. Mac and Alison have both flipped green so I don't think he's likely to have a partner to coach him that well. Not that nobody alive is capable of it, I just don't see it as likely.

he doesnt need much coaching, he has all his past games and plays the exact same way each game.

all he has to do is copy and paste the exact same lines lmao

Meh he didn't manage anything nearly that high effort in the joat game we just played where he was scum, iirc

Do you think that regardless of his alignment he would be more likely inclined to high effort given the nature of this particular lobby?

[ilario]

LMAOOOOOO it just dawned on me how hypocritical it is for me to push LC earlier in the game to fos and case people and then my knee jerk reaction is to think he’s scum when I see him do it

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyway do we need to drag this day out? It's fairly clear wiml is almost certainly dying, we have over 5000 posts to make reads on, and we can build clear worlds around wiml's flip either way imo

So yeah I say we hammer and go from there

Why do u want wiml over the guy who literally made an entire case on you and then spoke to you like ur town right after lmao

Yeah that's weird and I commented on it at the time but

Its not really >rand scum ime, and he's otherwise i think outside what I've seen of his scumrange. Mac and Alison have both flipped green so I don't think he's likely to have a partner to coach him that well. Not that nobody alive is capable of it, I just don't see it as likely.

he doesnt need much coaching, he has all his past games and plays the exact same way each game.

all he has to do is copy and paste the exact same lines lmao

Meh he didn't manage anything nearly that high effort in the joat game we just played where he was scum, iirc

Do you think that regardless of his alignment he would be more likely inclined to high effort given the nature of this particular lobby?

Idk maybe

I dont think freezing in mid to late game is necessarily something you can just flip a switch on though

[alexa]

I’m not worried about illario

[alexa]

@ilario why do you think wiml’s town?

[ilario]

Hmmmmm I kinda LC was reading for partners while casing nanook

That’s somewhat towny

[ilario]

@ilario why do you think wiml’s town?

I’m mostly starting from scratch today

[alexa]

nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa

Literally the only person who has mindmelded with me this phase

[ilario]

Meaning ur my only townread

And my gut instinct was to call nanook town too due toreasons

[alexa]

@ilario why do you think wiml’s town?

I’m mostly starting from scratch today

So am I and that’s a lot of why I don’t

But uh the last time I questioned your confident townread it went horrible

Wiml/ LC pretty much has to have a scum

[ilario]

But i plan to do what I did in vtubers and do a complete reset and start from scratch and actually read people again

My dilemma is do I do it today or do it in lylo if I make it when there’s less people to read which makes my life easier

[alexa]

Meaning ur my only townread

And my gut instinct was to call nanook town too due toreasons

I disliked the way wiml and LC came in pushing nook after the whole POE was proving wrong
But I feel like I can’t voice anything like this without wiml attacking me and calling me unaware of myself etc

Can I ask you honestly if there’s a way I talk that I should change? I feel like it’d be easier for me to tell from you than Mac and Esooa and wiml who have just been hurting me and making me stubborn because I don’t understand

[alexa]

Also I’m going back to sleep

[ilario]

hmmm might be something we can talk about better in post game

i think people are just on edge and it may be for multiple of reasons and thats affecting how everyone interacts with each other

[Wiml]

I literally announced that I'm quitting the game you should have hammered me already.

[Wiml]

Honestly we deserve to lose this.

If you think there's any world where I leave both of alexa and illario alive in a F7 no matter how right or wrong their reads are then you're insane lol.

Can’t u just kill us tonight though? It’s not like essoas slot was scummy at all either tbh

Esooa's slot has doubt.

You and alexa. Literally never. Doubt each other.

Esooa is also a really solid wolf and can be tinfoiled a lot more easily.

[Wiml]

Anyway do we need to drag this day out? It's fairly clear wiml is almost certainly dying, we have over 5000 posts to make reads on, and we can build clear worlds around wiml's flip either way imo

So yeah I say we hammer and go from there

Lol you're scared I come back and decide to play.

[Wiml]

Alexa if you're the third wolf in any world where I'm a wolf then fine.

But we just kill the ayer you're hard shielding with completely different pushes to you for most of the day.

read my posts and tell me i'm shielding ilario any more than i'm shielding esooa? the only reason it's obvious is because NO ONE else sussed esooa. this discussion is pointless. if you're arguing that esooa was ever a plausible push then prove it

I know you. I know you woukd never in a million years let illario get chopped here regardless of his alignment lol.

i feel like wiml is overplaying how much he knows how we play?

and idk if its coming from a place of a cocky town or just a mafia spouting bs?

because im reading all his posts and im like ????

ive only ever been lynched once in a pre-lylo situation since i started playing FM and that was purely because i got death tunneled by alexa for tinfoiling her.

she would absolutely push me if she thought i had a scum alignment

I really don't think you and alexa are aware of your reputation lol.

[Wiml]

Meaning ur my only townread

And my gut instinct was to call nanook town too due toreasons

I disliked the way wiml and LC came in pushing nook after the whole POE was proving wrong
But I feel like I can’t voice anything like this without wiml attacking me and calling me unaware of myself etc

Can I ask you honestly if there’s a way I talk that I should change? I feel like it’d be easier for me to tell from you than Mac and Esooa and wiml who have just been hurting me and making me stubborn because I don’t understand

You don't have a right to speak like this when you're driving people out of the game tbh.

[Wiml]

alexa is town and I don't want to talk about her.

I have concerns about misclearing illario at this point but I'm really not willing to go there.

Ender/LC/Nanook/TSP.

It's probably just two in the latter three.