Buckets: War of the GOATs [END]

#5451

I tried to kill lime instead of mac at eod2 so I think we can all agree im lock clear now

#5452

I wish retroactive votecounts were a thing here

Get on it @Marmot

#5453

If anyone lock clear it's my tunnelling ass lmao

#5454

Also, I was right about getting LC by D3 if he was woof

#5455

Currently in bed, so not gonna ISO rn, but gonna go back and do that later

#5456

Vulgard probably town too

#5457

Would appreciate if everyone can reason their top 2 poe

#5458

I guess the bar is higher atp but it sure seems like its between vulgard and ilario to me and I'm ok with trusting alexas read for now

#5459

I'm gonna read some lime stuff later, its tough without votecounts but eod2 might be useful too, iirc there was some push towards him last minute

#5460

It would be more helpful if SOMEONE @MacDougall hadn't decided he and he alone must die that day but oh well

#5461

game kinda hard and it's mac's fault but i feel like i owe it to everyone to kill vulgard today and then throw and vote for nanook in f3

#5462

i think vulgard's probably just town though? but like alexa would be upset if we killed ilario so like idk

#5463

vote: ilario

#5464

scanned the iso, can't really let this live, I don't really care what alexa says

#5465

i wish alexa had elaborated more i think

#5466

maybe she did she has a bajillion posts

#5467

I think nanook ender back to back wins the game

Don’t think it’s vulguard and that eod was good for tsp, lc also had interactions that didn’t look partnery with tsp

Enders had villagery moments and his push on lc was good, but lc likes to be bussed and he didn’t react to Enders pressure nearly the same way in which he reacted to other townies pressure

#5468

I’ll be on later btw

#5469

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:53 pm I think nanook ender back to back wins the game

Don’t think it’s vulguard and that eod was good for tsp, lc also had interactions that didn’t look partnery with tsp

Enders had villagery moments and his push on lc was good, but lc likes to be bussed and he didn’t react to Enders pressure nearly the same way in which he reacted to other townies pressure

if lc likes to be bussed then i might revert to my meme read

#5470

the problem with ilario's analysis is that it's probably right

#5471

which sucks

#5472

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:57 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:53 pm I think nanook ender back to back wins the game

Don’t think it’s vulguard and that eod was good for tsp, lc also had interactions that didn’t look partnery with tsp

Enders had villagery moments and his push on lc was good, but lc likes to be bussed and he didn’t react to Enders pressure nearly the same way in which he reacted to other townies pressure
if lc likes to be bussed then i might revert to my meme read

Ur meme read was actually one of the things about ur eod that made me tr you. I asked earlier in the thread about the bussing culture here because it was somehting that’s been on my mind for a while now. If ur meme read was an actual read I woulda hard townlocked u for it

#5473

Ur meme read and the way u went about hammering lc(given that vulguard was still an option for u to push as maf) specifically were the things about ur eod I liked

#5474

i mean it's pretty serious tbh but like i dunno

#5475

unvote

#5476

I'm not going to have --that-- much time to think today

#5477

Hammering what was at that point close to a foregone conclusion doesn't clear tsp lol

#5478

Ilario.

The people with the most experience with me called me towny.

Also as wolf it's stupid of me to push the bus THAT hard when people were resisting it.

#5479

Like legit I could've sulkily backed off it without losing any cred

#5480

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:02 pm Like legit I could've sulkily backed off it without losing any cred

tbf you kinda did

#5481

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:57 pm Hammering what was at that point close to a foregone conclusion doesn't clear tsp lol

shh you're supposed to angle me for a nightkill

#5482

anyways everyone sub to my walrus

#5483

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:46 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:57 pm Hammering what was at that point close to a foregone conclusion doesn't clear tsp lol
shh you're supposed to angle me for a nightkill

There are other NKs id prefer lol

#5484

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:46 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:02 pm Like legit I could've sulkily backed off it without losing any cred
tbf you kinda did

I didn't stop pushing for LC until they flipped so lmao no.

#5485

Vulgard with second vote on LC is a good look.

#5486

Gotta think this through including early days with LC

#5487

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:01 pm Ilario.

The people with the most experience with me called me towny.

Also as wolf it's stupid of me to push the bus THAT hard when people were resisting it.

I get that. But I also think you’re a strong player, and part of that means you can probably manipulate your meta to trick people who know you. Like it could very well be a case of what happened to me with vulguard in our first game where I got overly paranoid when I should have listened to Occam’s razor. I probably think nanook is more likely than you mostly because I hated how lc made a massive case on him but chose to vote wiml instead. He also tied tsp as a partner read to nanook which is something I’ve never seen anyone do in a big case. At the time I thought he possibly did it to set up a chain mislynch on tsp if nanook actually did flip scum.

I can’t rely really on the concept of people knowing you best=you to be town. Because the people that knew LC best called him town too.

Fwiw I still got a lot of rereading to do and vulguard can probably confirm I’m someone whose prone to changing their mind a LOT but atp I do feel confident in calling him and tsp town so it’ll probably take a lot for that to change.

#5488

I mean there also is the argument that can be used that me being alive over alexa when she was wary of vulguard and I was townreading him could possibly imply I’m wrong on that read. But I really don’t see why LC comes into the day casing both nanook and tsp. Has ender pushing him on the side. And through all that decides it’s optimal for him to vote vulguard. If vulguard got yeeted that means LC would have to endgame and I think he realised he wasn’t in a position to do that so for that reason alone I don’t think it’s vulguard.

On top of that him and wiml both had a fuck tonne of towny moments

#5489

By him I mean vulguard

#5490

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:40 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:01 pm Ilario.

The people with the most experience with me called me towny.

Also as wolf it's stupid of me to push the bus THAT hard when people were resisting it.
I get that. But I also think you’re a strong player, and part of that means you can probably manipulate your meta to trick people who know you. Like it could very well be a case of what happened to me with vulguard in our first game where I got overly paranoid when I should have listened to Occam’s razor. I probably think nanook is more likely than you mostly because I hated how lc made a massive case on him but chose to vote wiml instead. He also tied tsp as a partner read to nanook which is something I’ve never seen anyone do in a big case. At the time I thought he possibly did it to set up a chain mislynch on tsp if nanook actually did flip scum.

I can’t rely really on the concept of people knowing you best=you to be town. Because the people that knew LC best called him town too.

Fwiw I still got a lot of rereading to do and vulguard can probably confirm I’m someone whose prone to changing their mind a LOT but atp I do feel confident in calling him and tsp town so it’ll probably take a lot for that to change.

Tbh I'm fine with Nanook sus. He was my top basic read for partnered as well, and I agree Vulgard seems towny.

But I'm going to do a re-read before committing to that. Also I still think you're one of my hardest town, ESPECIALLY because LC took a lot of time to ask Alexa constantly if you were still 100% town to her.

Also re: Manipulating meta, sure I can do that. I'm just frustrated because to be sussed right after I caught the scum that no one else wanted to help me push is bloody annoying.

Also I think you're pre-maturely hard-clearing TSP. I had him at meta-town but as I said to Mac on D2 his posts felt bad and the "dumbtell" was sus.

#5491

And from memory vulguard was trashing LC a fair bit in his catch up posts. I don’t think he needed to do that as scum, especially when he could have just tried to shade tsp instead who wiml was fossing before the sub. Also it makes no sense for vulguard to bring sus on alexa and then just nk her.

#5492

Agreed on those points as well.

#5493

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:45 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:40 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:01 pm Ilario.

The people with the most experience with me called me towny.

Also as wolf it's stupid of me to push the bus THAT hard when people were resisting it.
I get that. But I also think you’re a strong player, and part of that means you can probably manipulate your meta to trick people who know you. Like it could very well be a case of what happened to me with vulguard in our first game where I got overly paranoid when I should have listened to Occam’s razor. I probably think nanook is more likely than you mostly because I hated how lc made a massive case on him but chose to vote wiml instead. He also tied tsp as a partner read to nanook which is something I’ve never seen anyone do in a big case. At the time I thought he possibly did it to set up a chain mislynch on tsp if nanook actually did flip scum.

I can’t rely really on the concept of people knowing you best=you to be town. Because the people that knew LC best called him town too.

Fwiw I still got a lot of rereading to do and vulguard can probably confirm I’m someone whose prone to changing their mind a LOT but atp I do feel confident in calling him and tsp town so it’ll probably take a lot for that to change.
Tbh I'm fine with Nanook sus. He was my top basic read for partnered as well, and I agree Vulgard seems towny.

But I'm going to do a re-read before committing to that. Also I still think you're one of my hardest town, ESPECIALLY because LC took a lot of time to ask Alexa constantly if you were still 100% town to her.

Also re: Manipulating meta, sure I can do that. I'm just frustrated because to be sussed right after I caught the scum that no one else wanted to help me push is bloody annoying.

Also I think you're pre-maturely hard-clearing TSP. I had him at meta-town but as I said to Mac on D2 his posts felt bad and the "dumbtell" was sus.

Yeahhhh I’m sorry you feel frustrated. I’d imagine that would be really annoying considering this was pretty much entirely ur pelt that U worked for.

One thing I never got was why you felt so confident I was town in the early game? Usually people who played with me for the first time take a bit more time to get there.

#5494

It almost feels like I’m punishing you for playing well LOLLLL. Like you’ve had pretty good reads all game, probably the most correct from anyone alive

#5495

Or dead

#5496

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:49 pm Yeahhhh I’m sorry you feel frustrated. I’d imagine that would be really annoying considering this was pretty much entirely ur pelt that U worked for.

One thing I never got was why you felt so confident I was town in the early game? Usually people who played with me for the first time take a bit more time to get there.

Wolf players rarely go into thread and immediately shake things up. Straight away your first posts were so against the trend, and they weren't even vaguely you went immediately on Alexa if memory serves.

Maybe scum-you does that but it felt like a weird as fuck play for a scum and if there's one thing I'm confident in it's my "That's weird as fuck for a scum" reads. (I have had a bad habit of doubting these later so I'm trying to hard-stick to em)

#5497

You know, imagine if Mac hadn't hard-defended LC Day 2 and I flipped the pelt there.

Would've had town!Mac alive still lmao.

#5498

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 12:56 am You know, imagine if Mac hadn't hard-defended LC Day 2 and I flipped the pelt there.

Would've had town!Mac alive still lmao.

Oh yeah I got my days mixed up and for some reason thought u were pushing him d3 and not d2. That’s a good look then considering if you did bus lc on d2 that woulda meant mac would still be alive and that’s another strong townie u would had to find a way to ML in order to win. Game probably just ends with nanook ig then

#5499

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:50 pm It almost feels like I’m punishing you for playing well LOLLLL. Like you’ve had pretty good reads all game, probably the most correct from anyone alive

Ahem

#5500

Imagine trying to kill mafia at eod, that same mafia trying to hard push you the next day...and then you're the top suspect the next day cause everyone decided to revert to the shitty poe again

HAMMER IS 3