Bonk Mafia (TOWN WINS)

[NotAnAxehole]

Yeah so if it's Alison/motel room you win the game regardless of what you do and if I am indeed town you want to exe motel room first. You believe that motel room is likely wolf in all worlds (since you're planning to vote them out tomorrow regardless of my flip) anyway.

I’m happy with my vote today.

[Alison]

Good for you. I direct my argument to anyone else who is concerned about an Alison/motel world, then.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Six confident town reads, if correct, mean the game is locked and everything else is just time spent waiting for the inevitable. It'd be cool if folks could gimme six town reads or more if they've not already.

[NotAnAxehole]

Six confident town reads, if correct, mean the game is locked and everything else is just time spent waiting for the inevitable. It'd be cool if folks could gimme six town reads or more if they've not already.

My 6 is the same as yours, swap falcon and Mizery.

[Alison]

Six confident town reads, if correct, mean the game is locked and everything else is just time spent waiting for the inevitable. It'd be cool if folks could gimme six town reads or more if they've not already.

JJJ, Rondo, MR, tutuu, Dyson, Mac. I'm confident in all of 'em.

[NotAnAxehole]

Six confident town reads, if correct, mean the game is locked and everything else is just time spent waiting for the inevitable. It'd be cool if folks could gimme six town reads or more if they've not already.

JJJ, Rondo, MR, tutuu, Dyson, Mac. I'm confident in all of 'em.

MR

[tutuu]

I think the correct play is to kill Alison, then sheep her read on Motel Room regardless of flip.

i was thinking the same thing lmao

[tutuu]

Yeah so if it's Alison/motel room you win the game regardless of what you do and if I am indeed town you want to exe motel room first. You believe that motel room is likely wolf in all worlds (since you're planning to vote them out tomorrow regardless of my flip) anyway.

hmmm

[VOTE: motel room] aubergine

[NotAnAxehole]

Yeah so if it's Alison/motel room you win the game regardless of what you do and if I am indeed town you want to exe motel room first. You believe that motel room is likely wolf in all worlds (since you're planning to vote them out tomorrow regardless of my flip) anyway.

hmmm

[VOTE: motel room] aubergine

This doesn’t make sense, because it establishes a world where Alison can gain town cred, where in my view she can’t. Order matters in mafia because people have a real hard time sticking to a plan.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Did we deal with the mech bs yet

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Alison first guess regarding who would be motel room's teammate?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Because it looks >rand ??

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Did we deal with the mech bs yet

I don't understand why we care

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also who’s MR in for

[TonyStarkPrime]

Did we deal with the mech bs yet

I don't understand why we care

Well technically, and I’ve read maybe 30 percent of the thread, Rondo is CCing Mac. This seems careworthy

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also who’s MR in for

Update: apparently MR was here the whole time

[Alison]

@Alison first guess regarding who would be motel room's teammate?

TSP

[tutuu]

Yeah so if it's Alison/motel room you win the game regardless of what you do and if I am indeed town you want to exe motel room first. You believe that motel room is likely wolf in all worlds (since you're planning to vote them out tomorrow regardless of my flip) anyway.

hmmm

[VOTE: motel room] aubergine

This doesn’t make sense, because it establishes a world where Alison can gain town cred, where in my view she can’t. Order matters in mafia because people have a real hard time sticking to a plan.

if we chop alison first motel room can gain towncred and slip between us

only 1 villager will be dead between now and day 3, the rest of us are still here, we can still stick to the plan

i dont think wolf alison can win after bussing motel room

i think that if alison is w/w with motel room, her plan was to push him, get herself chopped, and try to give him towncred. since starting this day phase, motel room didn't look bad compared to alot of other people. and if she was mafia she knew how bad her slot looked

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Did we deal with the mech bs yet

I don't understand why we care

Well technically, and I’ve read maybe 30 percent of the thread, Rondo is CCing Mac. This seems careworthy

The entire conversation seemed to be built upon poor communication of English words. I am going to try to sort it with a single post so we can move on.

[tutuu]

Did we deal with the mech bs yet

I don't understand why we care

Well technically, and I’ve read maybe 30 percent of the thread, Rondo is CCing Mac. This seems careworthy

mac is the PR giver, he gave the cop to rondo

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@MacDougall please confirm or deny that you sent an ability to Rondo on Night 0.

@RondoDimBuckle please confirm or deny that you received an ability on Night 0. This doesn't mean your role itself which would still be vanilla, it means a special one-time ability.

Please and thank you. Don't worry about hiding information from the mafia, because that's meaningless to me.

[tutuu]

@MacDougall please confirm or deny that you sent an ability to Rondo on Night 0.

@RondoDimBuckle please confirm or deny that you received an ability on Night 0. This doesn't mean your role itself which would still be vanilla, it means a special one-time ability.

Please and thank you. Don't worry about hiding information from the mafia, because that's meaningless to me.

N1 but yeah

[tutuu]

and it's 2-shot

[tutuu]

just pedantism ignore

[falcon45ca]

Spoiler: show

I am suspicious of anyone who has hit max posts by EOD personally its not like postcap was a secret

So you're sus of tuttu, myself, Mac, Scotty, JJJ, and dunya? We all have 86+ posts now, all likely to hit 100 before EOD.


And that's just based off your post cap sus, what are your other reads? Do you have anyone outside of the 6 of us in your sus pool? Who and why?

86+ isnt post cap, 99 is post cap and I dont know why you put JJJ in when I specifically said his post cap is excused? Its like you are wilfully misinterpreting me

Funny you say I'm misinterpreting you when I clearly said "likely to hit 100 by EOD"

Your reasoning for letting JJJ be exempt from your sus of post caps is silly, and I refute it on its merits, as LC was not a runaway wagon chop. He wasn't in anymore danger than several other players who have votes on them.

That whole strategy of scum hunting is lazy as well, as it picks out players who aren't as able to defend themselves due to the cap limit.

You didn't even answer my question of whonyout other scum reads are and why except to say "gut read interactions", which is also lazy scum hunting.

So both of your stated cases for susing players are lazy, which means I'm fine with Rondo, Dyson, Motel, Mac for my POE right now

You wasted your last post on this and didnt change your vote which means you want to vote dyson so this just feels performative

[/spoiler]
My post about Falcons 100th post ^ [Day 1 before vote finished]

Spoiler: show

Town:
Tutuu
Mizery
Radish
Scotty
Axehole
Lime
Uhhh music symbol guy

Gut town:
TSP
Dunya
Island. Motel?

Null:
Mac
Nook

Gut scum:
Monkey
Dyson
Falcon

tutuu
radish
jay
rondo

dyson
mizery

axehole
nook
motel
mac
TSP

alison
falcon

also a pocket scum world of some weird shit like dyson + mizery (mizery sees both partners tied at max votes, says fuck this shit)

Why did NAA & motel move from town to null?


TBH, I'm not seeing much in the way of read progression here...your town is still by and large your town, and your scum is still by and large your scum. This is over 12 pages of gameplay.

Falcons 101st post ^ [For those who cant be bothered finding the stamps[ Day 2]

Spoiler: show

falcon's D1 is villagery in tone and approach - I agree with Tony on this. As town he shotguns out a lot of pokes and prods. Most will miss and be smoothed over. A few will hit the mark and he will leap on them. As scum he does the same thing, but instead of a shotgun it's an aimed rifle, and all of the bullets miraculously hit the mark so he has a reason to vote out townies. (See: Bee Mafia.)

The following two posts are to his credit:

I just called Ms Cleo, and LC, Dyson, & motel are all Maf.

Are you implying that dyson and lomo are potential mischops?

Like, we’re not chopping like lomo today even if he doesn’t post any more, but I always prefer content over no content. Don’t you?

Are you implying they are not potential mischops?

The first one is just vintage town Falcon, tonally. He's capable of being aggressive as scum but I don't think it's aggressive to the extent that he comes out fearlessly swinging at three people.

The second one was Scotty trying to cast shade on MR (who I think is town) and falcon poking at Scotty/undermining it.

This post is not to his credit:

I literally don’t know what to make of dyson. He is…actually a vaccuum.

My favorite is falcon needling him, then immediately voting for Mizery. Very easy to touch and back off for cred if dyson is bad

I stand by my falcon vote

This reads like a soft shade of Dyson & attempt to label a top tier town as teammate should Dyson get flipped.


I like the pun at the start, helps sell the whole thing

Because he seems to believe that Scotty is setting him up for a misexe, but votes Dyson three posts later over Scotty without anything in particular happening that should push him there. He does seem to believe that Dyson/Scotty are teamed in this post, but I'd expect town Falcon to more aggressively bury Scotty here - he's temperamental, and he hates being set up by mafia. Also, his own logic ("soft shade of Dyson") seems to suggest that scum Scotty/town Dyson is a possibility, so it's strange to me that he chooses to vote Dyson over Scotty.

My end verdict on Falcon is that I agree with TSP's read that he's been townie D1 on play alone. He has a good looking interaction with Scotty to his name. He also has a couple of bad interactions and his voting patterns haven't been the best. I would bump him to the upper POE for that, but I wouldn't take him out of the POE entirely.

I asked Syn what was the repercussion of posting beyond the cap, and was handcuffed by losing my vote. I asked for a 10 post forgiveness and was told no.

Alison is like an xray machine on my meta to which I have no lead cape. I wish I could meet her in person. Beluga Whale and 112 are the only others who read me as accurately.

It makes me smile tbh, and since I'm not nearly as good at reading her, it's only mildly immasculating.

Falcon talking about how his 101st post being nullifying of his vote

I spoke wiht syn since we are allowed to fake/talk about host communications and asked if 101st post could be deleted and syn does not have permissions to do this so wouldnt. So, visa vi, ergo, etu, verbatim, ect, ad homonym


Falcon has been caught in a lie?

@falcon45ca

I meant I couldn't change my vote on D1, as it would've put me over the 100 post limit, and I would've lost my vote.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’ve considered the options and I’m vaguely with Jay on this one, since realistically there’s no way this is a sustainable CC. I’d like to sort it out though

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’ve considered the options and I’m vaguely with Jay on this one, since realistically there’s no way this is a sustainable CC. I’d like to sort it out though

Any guess for Alison's teammate?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’ve considered the options and I’m vaguely with Jay on this one, since realistically there’s no way this is a sustainable CC. I’d like to sort it out though

Any guess for Alison's teammate?

I’d be placing MR higher in my estimations

[TonyStarkPrime]

If Scotty was indeed a negative util scum PR I wouldn’t feel good clearing the wagon

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’ve considered the options and I’m vaguely with Jay on this one, since realistically there’s no way this is a sustainable CC. I’d like to sort it out though

Any guess for Alison's teammate?

I’d be placing MR higher in my estimations

I don't know what you mean by this.

1 - Master Radishes or motel room?

2 - Is "higher" more suspicious or more town or more likely to be Alison's teammate or something else?

If Scotty was indeed a negative util scum PR I wouldn’t feel good clearing the wagon

Who on the wagon would you direct your attention to?

[Dyson sphere]

Did we deal with the mech bs yet

I don't understand why we care

Well technically, and I’ve read maybe 30 percent of the thread, Rondo is CCing Mac. This seems careworthy

mac is the PR giver, he gave the cop to rondo

Alright, cool. So which player should the cop target now?

[Dyson sphere]

If Scotty was indeed a negative util scum PR I wouldn’t feel good clearing the wagon

What is a negative util?

[Dyson sphere]

Did we deal with the mech bs yet

I don't understand why we care

Well technically, and I’ve read maybe 30 percent of the thread, Rondo is CCing Mac. This seems careworthy

What is CCing? When I signed up, I had no idea I was expected to understand so much jargon.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did we deal with the mech bs yet

I don't understand why we care

Well technically, and I’ve read maybe 30 percent of the thread, Rondo is CCing Mac. This seems careworthy

What is CCing? When I signed up, I had no idea I was expected to understand so much jargon.

Counter Claim

[Dyson sphere]

Did we deal with the mech bs yet

I don't understand why we care

Well technically, and I’ve read maybe 30 percent of the thread, Rondo is CCing Mac. This seems careworthy

What is CCing? When I signed up, I had no idea I was expected to understand so much jargon.

Counter Claim

Alright, so they are both role providers. That means one of them is mafia and the other one is town. We just have to figure out who is which.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did we deal with the mech bs yet

I don't understand why we care

Well technically, and I’ve read maybe 30 percent of the thread, Rondo is CCing Mac. This seems careworthy

What is CCing? When I signed up, I had no idea I was expected to understand so much jargon.

Counter Claim

Alright, so they are both role providers. That means one of them is mafia and the other one is town. We just have to figure out who is which.

No

Mac says he's a role provided and sent rondo a cop n1

Rondo said he got nothing

[Dyson sphere]

Did we deal with the mech bs yet

I don't understand why we care

Well technically, and I’ve read maybe 30 percent of the thread, Rondo is CCing Mac. This seems careworthy

What is CCing? When I signed up, I had no idea I was expected to understand so much jargon.

Counter Claim

Alright, so they are both role providers. That means one of them is mafia and the other one is town. We just have to figure out who is which.

No

Mac says he's a role provided and sent rondo a cop n1

Rondo said he got nothing

Then rondo got the insane cop role, which means mac is the mafia role provider.

Guys, I solved it lol

[Dyson sphere]

[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

What, no, that isn't how it works

If Rondo got insane cop he'd still get something

Rondo says he got nothing at all


Since there's no other role giver claim, mac is very likely town

[Dyson sphere]

Also, I initially had jjj on my scumtell list. I have to catch up some more before I reevaluate, just to say I haven't forgotten.

And sucks about dunya subbing out. I hope she's doing alright.

[Dyson sphere]

Dunya said if jjj was mafia, she was mafia as well. Then she or her slot got night killed.

So maybe that means jjj isn't mafia? Too early to tell

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm beginning to consider the possibility of m/m wagons lol

[Dyson sphere]

I'm making another post to increase my post count.

[Master Radishes]

Rondo says he got nothing at all

Actually I don't think he's firmly confirmed or denied anything, unless I missed it. He was being a bit cagey about it earlier.

[Master Radishes]

I'm making another post to increase my post count.

This is a good plan.

[Master Radishes]

I know Mac has the ovaries to pull off a fake claim and all that, but it would be a bit...useless?...to claim giving Rondo a role knowing it would be denied. It achieves little for his hypothetical scum team.

Mac is just 'shrug, probs town' until we have anything more to go off of, imo.

[Master Radishes]

There can be only one 'MR' and motel room has been a member of the Syndicate longer, so he can have first dibs on the nickname.

I don't mind being called 'The Master of Radishes' or 'Lord Radish' or 'Radish GOAT' or any variation like that.

[Dyson sphere]

Radical radish

[falcon45ca]

There can be only one 'MR' and motel room has been a member of the Syndicate longer, so he can have first dibs on the nickname.

I don't mind being called 'The Master of Radishes' or 'Lord Radish' or 'Radish GOAT' or any variation like that.

How about Cool Mo' D?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Bit of a gap then
Rondo - I know he put the last vote on Scotty that got him lynched but I felt that there was a strong possibility they were team mates based on interactions

I would like to hear more about this, motel room.