Bonk Mafia (TOWN WINS)

[TonyStarkPrime]

i will be sharing information at a point in the future (falcon is outside of such information)

[TonyStarkPrime]

But like the second bit is, honest truth, I leave for college in less than 24 hours and this week's been a blur and up until now I've been multitabling so that's a thing too.

it's radishes because I just glanced at the vote totals and said to myself "yeah it's probably MR" and nobody's said anything that's made me change my mind

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[VOTE: dyson] aubergine

[TonyStarkPrime]

Tony’s the only other option that speaks to me at all. He’s not dead so sure.

jay if you even try to chop me i will 400 post so fast that after you chop me you'll at least feel bad

[TonyStarkPrime]

mac dying is like a very good reason not to suspect Motel Room regardless of the track results for the record

[TonyStarkPrime]

POE is, in order:

Dyson
MR
tutuu
jay

[JaggedJimmyJay]

But like the second bit is, honest truth, I leave for college in less than 24 hours and this week's been a blur and up until now I've been multitabling so that's a thing too.

it's radishes because I just glanced at the vote totals and said to myself "yeah it's probably MR" and nobody's said anything that's made me change my mind

Why do the vote totals tell you that?

[TonyStarkPrime]

he's the only person who could have potentially bussed on day one and gone for the save on day 2. the correct vote on day 2 is clearing for a lot of players but on day 1 I'd think either wolves were gone or at least one was bussing, especially given the fact that scotty was an anti-wolf pr. also, alison was pushing the "probably no bussers" wagon hard which I think is also not a good look

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'm unpoeing jay i've given up on being spicy

[TonyStarkPrime]

he's just busy

[tutuu]

POE is, in order:

Dyson
MR
tutuu
jay

why nanook clear?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm unpoeing jay i've given up on being spicy

can you tell me why you cleared the other non-POE people

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Dyson] aubergine

[TonyStarkPrime]

nanook can also be poe, the others are all probably good enough. I think voting off alison is borderline clearing there for NAA, motel is clear for the reason tutuu said earlier, I'm clearing falcon because I want to, and now I'm clearing jay for double correct votes mostly. there's a decent reason to think nanook is actually town imo but it's nothing to call home about

[tutuu]

i voted alison d2 putting me lower in the poe than nook is a heinous crime and i will seek justice

[TonyStarkPrime]

yeah that's true but like archetypes

[TonyStarkPrime]

fine nanook can be third

[tutuu]

fine nanook can be third

pleasure doing business with you

[JaggedJimmyJay]

My first guess yesterday was Dyson, so it's possible I leveled myself out of the truth. If I only get four names he'd be difficult to leave out.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i think there might be a good reason to think it's not mister starfish vacuum but I haven't really investigated in depth yet

[TonyStarkPrime]

yeah actually like I think dyson's decently pure and I enjoy their presence in this game and therefore

VOTE: MR (who I also enjoy but like setting that aside)

[Master Radishes]

TSP

Have you actually like

read my iso and how I approached Scotty in D1

or anything like that?

[Master Radishes]

For that matter, how is tutuu in your PoE based off how Scotty treated her compared to everyone else

[TonyStarkPrime]

TSP

Have you actually like

read my iso and how I approached Scotty in D1

or anything like that?

no

[Master Radishes]

Like actually maybe my approach on Scotty is more in my head than in my posts, I don't remember now. But I definitely shaded him early, then sat on that vote despite how close it was.

[Master Radishes]

Okay, fair.

Carry on.

[tutuu]

okay im tryharding and isoing everyone

(later)

[JaggedJimmyJay]

okay im tryharding and isoing everyone

(later)

Thank you. I simply cannot.

[falcon45ca]

i will be sharing information at a point in the future (falcon is outside of such information)

Are you trying to make me feel left out?



It's like I'm the last kid picked for street hockey

[falcon45ca]

TSP

Have you actually like

read my iso and how I approached Scotty in D1

or anything like that?

Gotta be honest, that reads as tho you intentionally treated Scotty a certain way so as not to arouse suspicion should one of you flip

[motel room]

Yeah I sort of feel like its not falcon. And weirdly NotAn Axehole is my most confident townread - as in, I can see other towns being a surprise mafia but he's been his own townrock.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Maybe the best argument that Radishes is mafia is that dyachei was the Night 1 kill. dya may be a great player, but I tend to question whether anyone kills them first, before they can even make a post, without knowing who they are. That would eliminate some people in theory.

[tutuu]

im stating to get around to seeing radish being mafia (still haven't read, was just thinking over stuff)

[motel room]

My reads haven't really changed. I continue to feel comfortable with my POE ordering and nothing has made me question my townclears. My legacy is clear, and I think it's also fairly uncontroversial: go motel first, then TSP, then nanook, then Axe/Falcon and you should win. Kill me to assuage your doubts if you must; we have space for an extra misexe if both scum are contained in those five names. Reasses at LyLo in case it's MR slipping past the cracks or something, but until then I feel that this game is going in the right direction and should be kept on rails. A mafia died D1 and left behind clear spew and clear wagonomics; we should play properly based on that. Don't let people in the POE cause chaos or try to open it up with tinfoil and shade-throwing on townie but framable slots like Mizery or MR before LyLo. Don't ever leave motel alive past D3 if you kill me.

This post is interesting. Since Alison's death we do seem to be going for what she called "townie but frameable slots" like Mizery and now MR. I don't know what that means.

Where does she put her teammate knowing there's a chance she dies.

[falcon45ca]

My reads haven't really changed. I continue to feel comfortable with my POE ordering and nothing has made me question my townclears. My legacy is clear, and I think it's also fairly uncontroversial: go motel first, then TSP, then nanook, then Axe/Falcon and you should win. Kill me to assuage your doubts if you must; we have space for an extra misexe if both scum are contained in those five names. Reasses at LyLo in case it's MR slipping past the cracks or something, but until then I feel that this game is going in the right direction and should be kept on rails. A mafia died D1 and left behind clear spew and clear wagonomics; we should play properly based on that. Don't let people in the POE cause chaos or try to open it up with tinfoil and shade-throwing on townie but framable slots like Mizery or MR before LyLo. Don't ever leave motel alive past D3 if you kill me.

This post is interesting. Since Alison's death we do seem to be going for what she called "townie but frameable slots" like Mizery and now MR. I don't know what that means.

Where does she put her teammate knowing there's a chance she dies.

Hmmm, that's a good post to quote. Notice she puts MR at LYLO for a re-asses, but not before. In fact, she seems particularly concerned about leaving MR be and not to get caught in "chaos or tinfoil"

[falcon45ca]

Is Alison known for bussing?

[falcon45ca]

Interestingly, both Alison & MR have treated my slot essentially the same: "could be Town, could be Maf"

[motel room]

My reads haven't really changed. I continue to feel comfortable with my POE ordering and nothing has made me question my townclears. My legacy is clear, and I think it's also fairly uncontroversial: go motel first, then TSP, then nanook, then Axe/Falcon and you should win. Kill me to assuage your doubts if you must; we have space for an extra misexe if both scum are contained in those five names. Reasses at LyLo in case it's MR slipping past the cracks or something, but until then I feel that this game is going in the right direction and should be kept on rails. A mafia died D1 and left behind clear spew and clear wagonomics; we should play properly based on that. Don't let people in the POE cause chaos or try to open it up with tinfoil and shade-throwing on townie but framable slots like Mizery or MR before LyLo. Don't ever leave motel alive past D3 if you kill me.

This post is interesting. Since Alison's death we do seem to be going for what she called "townie but frameable slots" like Mizery and now MR. I don't know what that means.

Where does she put her teammate knowing there's a chance she dies.

Hmmm, that's a good post to quote. Notice she puts MR at LYLO for a re-asses, but not before. In fact, she seems particularly concerned about leaving MR be and not to get caught in "chaos or tinfoil"

Yeah and there's no way MR makes it to lylo with the players that were around at the time.

I feel like what she said in reference to me about bussing puts her in a bad position as scum was true. I'm leaning towards thinking she soft towncleared her partner.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’m not clear on what either of you are suggesting with regard to Radishes. Is that Alison post good or bad for him?

[motel room]

I’m not clear on what either of you are suggesting with regard to Radishes. Is that Alison post good or bad for him?

Potentially bad.

[falcon45ca]

I’m not clear on what either of you are suggesting with regard to Radishes. Is that Alison post good or bad for him?

Bad for him

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Okay thanks. I’m going to wait for Radishes to say words.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: MR] aubergine

EOD1 is set up for perfect distancing between Scotty & MR, but left up to tie due to a absent wolf (LoMo).

The EOD2 tie makes perfect sense with MR and Alison being both on my wagon. Both also setting up distance for my mislynch, they were fairly hedgy on my wagon.



Yeah, MR is my top lynch candidate right now

[motel room]

I'm just going to do this in tally order and drop a brain load. Ask questions by all means.

Dyson - Reading through Dyson there are some dodgy takes but they all feel genuine to a degree. He was the counter wagon to Scotty, which going back to one of Scotty's first posts, yeah he was definitely the mafia role guy, so bussing Dyson wouldn't be the end of the world. Alison clears Dyson because of this. Actually pushed it really hard (#1265,#1268 - I dont think Alison and Nanook are a secret team from the second response there). But its to angle the people on Dyson's wagon - these peeps Voters: NotAnAxehole, TonyStarkPrime, falcon45ca, Scotty. I'm not even still talking about Dyson am I? Ok I think she knows he's town. Also, cynical me says Alison would have bussed a Dyson partner.

falcon - I've switched on my read of falcon. If he was scum, the last scum, and so low in everybody's reads list or the POE things that have taken mafia by storm since I played last, I think he would have tried something. But he's just kept on contributing pretty consistent across the days probably knowing one of these days is falcon lynch to cross him off.

jjj - When jjj was here he was town. Last couple of days I could imagine there being a surprising twist but I dont think thats whats happening. And I dont think thats how jjj would want to win as scum.

Radishes - Thinking on this. Did vote Scotty on a non-guaranteed lynch but still.

Nanook - A read through of him feels light and towny. And like the conclusion I came to above I dont think he was a team with Alison.

Axehole - I feel like Axehole is solving the game how he does it, however he does it. Showed no mercy to Alison. This looked real - #1351. Also I want to always remember his view of "following a plan" as something that town so rarely does.

TSP - Also thinking on this, at least he seems more helpful the last few days.

tutuu - She's the one I could totally see being bad and going "oh yeah i was bad i forgot to say". She never seems to believe her reads or something. But whenever I go and try to read her presence in the thread it seems genuine. So looking at her posts and beats on their own, I could tinfoil a bad read, but as a whole she has to be town right

[motel room]

Scotty's mentions of TSP.

Spoiler: show

Rondo hella reactionary though. Can’t shake this feeling, hackles standing up.

But I suck at D1 so maybe I should just pull a Mac and sheep the consensus town

Nah he's just mafia. You're doing well.

Interesting, I dont quite agree with a blatant declaration without any proof to back it up


[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

Note that if you turn out to be bad, this is your teammate just for this random vote.

<snipped irrelevant stuff>


I also like how someone (TSP?) said no more mech talk and it just did. Like, why are we not doing any more mech talk? I might be coming around to the whole mass claiming thing

<snipped three other reads (tutuu, mizery, mac)>

TSP Lean town- has some mindmelding with some others lien they’re in some sort of secret organization. I don’t remember what his scum game looks like, but he appears to have a firm grasp of the mech stuff. Probably NAI but I lean town

The first post is...interesting. I could pretty easily see Scotty thinking of trying to tie Rondo to w!TSP 'just in case' TSP flipped sooner or later. Otherwise I feel there's not much point to Scotty trying to pre-flip associate two townies together like that.

The third post is his only read on TSP and it comes towards the end of the round when it's clear he's a liable chop. I don't know whether Scotty was going anti-spew already, or just trying to look last-ditch-solvy to prevent himself going over, but it's probably the latter seeing as it was a close vote? In which case he gave some hip-fire reads on a few players and TSP's is...pretty uninspiring. And the slightly jokey 'secret organisation' line feels too casual for my liking.

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GTH I think TSP is more compatible than Mizery based purely on Scottyspew, but they both are so I'm fine with killing either.

Ok, but that second post you quoted looks to me more like they aren't in a team together. Did you include that one to show they were or weren't compatible?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Is Alison known for bussing?

Yes

[TonyStarkPrime]

Falcon is voting with me and now I feel bad about falcon

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also worth noting that at the beginning of the game I was multitabling with falcon and I had to like make stuff up to get him killed and this might have reset my brain cells on being able to read falcon

[TonyStarkPrime]

Has everyone checked in yet?

[TonyStarkPrime]

That’s a question to check to see who’s paying attention but maybe wolves aren’t