Smilies Mafia - GAME END

[EnderWiggin]

You wolf read Dyson, is that what that's saying Gav?

[EnderWiggin]

Ilario also townread a wolf last towngame we shared so I'm not holding that against him.

Wasn’t I the first person to join u on the lcn push?

No. Esooa was.

[EnderWiggin]

But I was mostly memeing about you townreading a scum anyway. =P

[EnderWiggin]

Oh right, my super secret townread from D1 was LC. He did his town thing.

[Gavial]

You wolf read Dyson, is that what that's saying Gav?

[EnderWiggin]

Main reasoning him starting off the game with a quote so level 0 "Pranay Rule" which is minor.

Then you got him asking Gav "why the pictures" and Allison why she's voting TSP. One question that's not going to determine anything alignment wise, and the second just a question that's just bland thar seems like busywork.

Mfw LC caught someone Page 2 with Pranay rule.

[EnderWiggin]

LC is town btw. If I'm wrong I'll probably die N1.

I just saw a game where scum ender opened the game by townreading town lc right away. In a world where lc is town again I don’t think ender is likely to try the exact same approach twice as mafia, that would be pretty ballsy LOL. So in a world where lc is town I can see ender leaning town for this

Ilario has town equity for these kind of positions. There's several of them unnecessarily clearing people that I think are town now.

[EnderWiggin]

Town:
Lime Coke
Enderwiggin
Jackofheats2005
Scotty

Lesser Town:
TonyStarkPrime
ilario

The rest:
Gavial
falcon45ca

Lesser Scum:
Dyson Sphere

One Wolf:
RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

[EnderWiggin]

ISOing Falcon quickly

[EnderWiggin]

... Meh.

I'll say one of Dyson/Falc are scum too. Because that feels the state of the game.

[EnderWiggin]

Gav ISO time.

[EnderWiggin]

Hmmm.

I have this weird Nanook/Rondo theory.

[EnderWiggin]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME > Dyson Sphere > RondoDimBuckle > falcon45ca > Gavial

Winning POE.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Spoiler: show

Check this progression. Put on your augmented reality goggles for a second and imagine if Ender is wolf. Ok, ready?

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Rondo/Seanzie has probably at least one wolf, I'll agree with that read from Gav.

Rondo/Seanzie has probably at least one wolf, I'll agree with that read from Gav.

Why?

Seanzie has felt more appeasing than in his town games.

Rondo is over-playing his meme-nature.

I could be jumping at shadows but Seanzie feels non-standard and I feel like Rondo is playing into what he knows I'll townread so for that reason I think he's scum.

I still wouldn’t be against a Seanzie lynch today either

Goodnight

Sleep well.

I could be down with Seanzie as well.

Because there is a chance you're town and honestly it feels like town game from you. You're just wrong and thats ok. But again this is all prepositioned with the fact that I havent brained yet. So I reserve the right to reverse my opinion on ender.

Hmmm. My vote stays for now.

Ok so that whole progression was wolf af. Finding a split between rondo and Seanzie, and rolling all the first 36 hours against Rondo. Ignores Seanzie. How bout the last like 12 hours?

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Sean obvious town tbh

Why tho?

Ok so I don’t remember the vote count totals here, but this seems prettty risky to go for Seanzie at this point if Ender is wolf. Could be said that rondo perhaps wasn’t sticking as a mislynch, and so he resignedly votes his partner, but it’s a bit too much of a potential start on a train. Why not just keep the vote on rondo? Would’ve been safer.

Maybe voting Rondo again tbh.

I just want more than one viable wagon towards eod

Ah, well, back down we go, leaving room to switch back in case Seanzie gets too hot.

3 minutes later:

If Seanzie is town then I don't understand this site at all.

I don't think he's town tbh tbh tbh.

Why even include this. Why even comment this at all? Trying to appear like he’s still a committed soldier to the Kill Seanzie Committee?

30 minutes before EoD:

Giving it a try is all I ask. Yeah seems really stagnant and I'm getting cold feet

Suddenly implying he wouldn’t be opposed to switching it up

5 min before EoD:

I think Seanzie is getting too free a pass here

Good look, if I recall it’s hinging on like 1 vote apart. Rondo and falcon at 2, and lime coke and Seanzie were tied at 3.

Rondo's active sabotaging of saving attempts idk what to think of but it's rand!town on surface

He could have easily gone back to Rondo. The opportunity was there to switch. Would it have been too fishy for him to do so? I don’t think so, his progression was already setting himself up to be able to switch as he saw fit. He very well could have swung the tide against rondo or falcon or LC, but held fast with a leading wagon. Could have easily made it LC/Rondo lead wagon.

Everything leading up to that last 5 minutes screams wolf. And then that last 5 minutes…screams town. It could be a calculated bud. I think Ender capable of that. I don’t want to clear him by any means because that’s poopoocaca. He’s my dark horse wolf who bussed.


I do not believe more than one wolf was on the Seanzie wagon.

I put Seanzie to 3 votes with my vote, when it was 5/2 Rondo/Seanzie I changed it to 4/3.

That I remember because the lack of push back on Rondo felt really weird.

So you would say I am town?

[RondoDimBuckle]

One of Nook/Rondo are probably scum because he made that one "Not paired" post which feels very out of place.

While I dont disagree and that is why I am leaning towards Nanook

he could have just been anti-spewing and neither of us are wolf which is why I also sus TSP

[RondoDimBuckle]

If Ender is wolf like I think, there is a non 0 chance he tries to throw a partner under the bus and seanzie is a good vote today?

This reads mildly TMI in hindsight.

walk me through how this is TMI? I posit something that is entirely within your scum range and its TMI?

[RondoDimBuckle]

If Seanzie is town then I don't understand this site at all.

Yes, Seanzie is most likely wolf.

Narrowed eyes at this post tbh.

Next post he votes Gavial.

Ender usually gives me town benefit of the doubt but today he isnt being very charitable I will agree pushing him closer to his scum range than town range for me

[RondoDimBuckle]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME > Dyson Sphere > RondoDimBuckle > falcon45ca > Gavial

Winning POE.

Interesting, I was expecting you to put me first

[RondoDimBuckle]

Spoiler: show

If Seanzie is town then I don't understand this site at all.

Yes, Seanzie is most likely wolf.

Narrowed eyes at this post tbh.

Next post he votes Gavial.

Ender usually gives me town benefit of the doubt but today he isnt being very charitable I will agree pushing him closer to his scum range than town range for me

Never mind I misread the situation

[EnderWiggin]

If Ender is wolf like I think, there is a non 0 chance he tries to throw a partner under the bus and seanzie is a good vote today?

This reads mildly TMI in hindsight.

walk me through how this is TMI? I posit something that is entirely within your scum range and its TMI?

It's an easy read to make as a wolf because it ties a towny to a wolf.

[EnderWiggin]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME > Dyson Sphere > RondoDimBuckle > falcon45ca > Gavial

Winning POE.

Interesting, I was expecting you to put me first

I think you're wolf but I think Nanook might be more wolf.

[RondoDimBuckle]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME > Dyson Sphere > RondoDimBuckle > falcon45ca > Gavial

Winning POE.

Interesting, I was expecting you to put me first

I think you're wolf but I think Nanook might be more wolf.

so when I flip town what happens to you?

[EnderWiggin]

Also there's the whole lack of pushback thing that I mentioned that makes me wonder about my read.

[EnderWiggin]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME > Dyson Sphere > RondoDimBuckle > falcon45ca > Gavial

Winning POE.

Interesting, I was expecting you to put me first

I think you're wolf but I think Nanook might be more wolf.

so when I flip town what happens to you?

I continue to be town but I guess in that universe I was wrong.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Hmmm.

I have this weird Nanook/Rondo theory.

Is it that we're both town

[EnderWiggin]

Hmmm.

I have this weird Nanook/Rondo theory.

Is it that we're both town

The opposite actually.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Hmmm.

I have this weird Nanook/Rondo theory.

Is it that we're both town

who do you think are wolves?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Hmmm.

I have this weird Nanook/Rondo theory.

Is it that we're both town

The opposite actually.

so I sus my partner all game?

[EnderWiggin]

Hmmm.

I have this weird Nanook/Rondo theory.

Is it that we're both town

The opposite actually.

so I sus my partner all game?

I'm pretty sure you had Nanook as town D1?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Hmmm.

I have this weird Nanook/Rondo theory.

Is it that we're both town

The opposite actually.

so I sus my partner all game?

I'm pretty sure you had Nanook as town D1?

nope I have been tinfoiling you both leaning nanook scum but now I am leaning you scum

[EnderWiggin]

LC is towny read idk why on the block

Because I trust nanook and not you atm

Nanook probably dead night 1

Literally just ISOd you and other than a Troll Points discussion and a meme RVS vote following me, you said nothing about Nanook D1 except this.

BOTH of which suggest you trust him.

Also there was the "STOP READING ME AS TOWN DAMNIT" sequence with him.

[EnderWiggin]

[RondoDimBuckle]

LC is towny read idk why on the block

Because I trust nanook and not you atm

Nanook probably dead night 1

Literally just ISOd you and other than a Troll Points discussion and a meme RVS vote following me, you said nothing about Nanook D1 except this.

BOTH of which suggest you trust him.

Also there was the "STOP READING ME AS TOWN DAMNIT" sequence with him.

oh you're right

yeah because I hate that he can read me so well

[EnderWiggin]

Yeah you defended him D1 then on D2 start you just flipped the sus switch.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I deserve this

[RondoDimBuckle]

Yeah you defended him D1 then on D2 start you just flipped the sus switch.

because its likely one of us (Being LC/Nanook/TSP/Me) is wolf

[ilario]

I’m prepared to be burnt by saying this if I end up being wrong: but I feel like rondo is a pretty easy read

[RondoDimBuckle]

I’m prepared to be burnt by saying this if I end up being wrong: but I feel like rondo is a pretty easy read

yeah after EOD yesterday I decided to drop the mask

[EnderWiggin]

I’m prepared to be burnt by saying this if I end up being wrong: but I feel like rondo is a pretty easy read

I HAVE been burnt thinking this before.

Rondo is intelligent and very capable of playing unexpected plays for wins. I've lost to him enough times to know that lmao.

[EnderWiggin]

There is the off chance that because he hasn't got a completed wolf game under his belt his mafia skills won't transfer AS well to forum games.

[EnderWiggin]

But I'm not sure I trust that.

[RondoDimBuckle]

You know what, Ender has convinced me, I am wolf [VOTE: Rondo ] aubergine

[EnderWiggin]

You know what, Ender has convinced me, I am wolf [VOTE: Rondo ] aubergine

And this is Rondo doing things he knows I want to townread him for lmao.

Nah I want [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine first.

[RondoDimBuckle]

You know what, Ender has convinced me, I am wolf [VOTE: Rondo ] aubergine

And this is Rondo doing things he knows I want to townread him for lmao.

Nah I want [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine first.

Hahahah, is transparent manipulation still town readable?

And yeah it will be nice to get some more content from nanook

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Hmmm.

I have this weird Nanook/Rondo theory.

Is it that we're both town

The opposite actually.

Dang

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Hmmm.

I have this weird Nanook/Rondo theory.

Is it that we're both town

who do you think are wolves?

Dunno. Probably one on the seanzie wagon that seems like a pretty bussable slot plus he went over with plurality, so. Not sure who makes the most sense tbh I haven't read eod yet.

Really want to kill gav still, unclear how likely he is to be mafia

The more ender pushes me the more meh he is, I dont really think he's mafia in a vacuum but he has a pretty solid history of townreading me correctly so he has some amount of burden of accuracy

Outside of that...not sure

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

You know what, Ender has convinced me, I am wolf [VOTE: Rondo ] aubergine

And this is Rondo doing things he knows I want to townread him for lmao.

Nah I want [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine first.

Hahahah, is transparent manipulation still town readable?

And yeah it will be nice to get some more content from nanook

Good luck with that

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Dyson falcon gav ender tsp

Is probably my poe atm, caveat that I don't know if that makes sense with the thoughts I just posted kek, so subject to change

[RondoDimBuckle]

You know what, Ender has convinced me, I am wolf [VOTE: Rondo ] aubergine

And this is Rondo doing things he knows I want to townread him for lmao.

Nah I want [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine first.

Hahahah, is transparent manipulation still town readable?

And yeah it will be nice to get some more content from nanook

Good luck with that

Thanks, I hope it pans out

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Sean voters are ender lime scotty and jack

In theory 4 voters out of 13 should basically never actually hit mafia without a bus

So probably scotty needs to go back into poe and idk who swaps out. Uh...tsp maybe, let's go with that. LC probably only mafia if rondo is too (based on his outbursts), I think rondo town so he's probably town independently and if im looking at teams. Jack probably town independently and his voting looked pure rather than bussing to me at a glance. I don't really have a reason to take scotty out of poe besides his vote, so back in he goes.