The Witcher Mafia [Game Over]

[Urist]

Koba maf

[tutuu]

Who's actively played alot of games with KZA lately and among them who would shoot them for the fun factor?

Along the lines of we always kill KZA N1/vig them so lets do it again lolz.

i think that she died coz she was a consensus townread and mafia wanted to avoid killing mac for whatever their reason was. other than that, radish, falcon and 112 share home community with her

[DkKoba]

if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle

I eagerly await tearing it down.

[Epignosis]

DkKoba's opinion on me is horseshit.

[DkKoba]

Koba maf

why?

[Urist]

if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle

I eagerly await tearing it down.

Wolfy post

[Michelle]

I'm someone you *need* to have experience with town!me to understand that premises on reading me are grossly incorrect if you are default scumreading me.

I am also a person who feeds into the ego of having to fight off any scumread on me so yeah.

Why am I scum holistically? Let me dissect it that way, Michelle.

Holistically you are scum because you share TMI reads, you had a very low impact day 1 and now you play overexplaining things about your play instead trying to solve

I don't want for you to be scum, that's a shade and i don't accept it. I provided serious arguments and of course you would not say i am right, isn't it?

[DkKoba]

DkKoba's opinion on me is horseshit.

so you *are* mafia?

[DkKoba]

I'm someone you *need* to have experience with town!me to understand that premises on reading me are grossly incorrect if you are default scumreading me.

I am also a person who feeds into the ego of having to fight off any scumread on me so yeah.

Why am I scum holistically? Let me dissect it that way, Michelle.

Holistically you are scum because you share TMI reads, you had a very low impact day 1 and now you play overexplaining things about your play instead trying to solve

I don't want for you to be scum, that's a shade and i don't accept it. I provided serious arguments and of course you would not say i am right, isn't it?

I think you'll find those same kind of "TMI" reads in the towngames i linked.

In short - I am at least decent at this game and have found I can townhunt pretty well.

Did you consider that angle or am I just stupid in your eyes?

[DkKoba]

if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle

I eagerly await tearing it down.

Wolfy post

What's wolfy about it?

[Michelle]

if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle

I eagerly await tearing it down.

You want me to loose my time in your empty Iso.
No, i will not.

I have you as almost lock scum and i will move forward
The sole reason i stayed until now is because i waited for a sparkle from you who didn't came.

[Epignosis]

DkKoba's opinion on me is horseshit.

so you *are* mafia?

[Urist]

if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle

I eagerly await tearing it down.

Wolfy post

What's wolfy about it?

The fact that a wolf made it

[DkKoba]

if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle

I eagerly await tearing it down.

You want me to loose my time in your empty Iso.
No, i will not.

I have you as almost lock scum and i will move forward
The sole reason i stayed until now is because i waited for a sparkle from you who didn't came.

I'd love to share my honest thoughts but those would get me in trouble because they are not too nice.

I will content myself with you being able to eat massive crow when you enter the dead chat EOD today.

[tutuu]

chill guys, its all good. lets keep the fun vibes from day 1

[DkKoba]

if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle

I eagerly await tearing it down.

Wolfy post

What's wolfy about it?

The fact that a wolf made it

has this "tell" been accurate for you ever?

[Urist]

Taking a nap, setting an alarm for eod so i can catch the koba flip

[DkKoba]

chill guys, its all good. lets keep the fun vibes from day 1

this doesn't help the situation

[EnderWiggin]

I don't really have much to say right now. Eod was a bad look for the people that put Dya over(ish....i'll explain)

If we're looking for our wolf, and syn is scum (or sig is scum for that matter) we're looking for the player(s) that hesitated voting with mac initially, then changed their mind maybe an hour or two before end of day. Depending the brass on the players who changed their votes at EOD will tell you how late EOD scum would of hoped off of Syn/Sig. late hop offs are >randscum on bolder players, while early hops are scum on more thread state sensitive players.

That's my hypothesis, gonna read end of day and see who shows up based on that

hello i am fresh from an EOD read

the wagon switch-offs happened in the last half hour and everyone seemed pretty gung-ho about following Mac

ted expressed hesitance, as did sig and TSP (TSP did sheep first)

Mac votes
then TSP
then Michelle
then Ender (? he says vote sheeped but didn't use vote tags, he voted according to the tally though)
then KZA
then Rondo

NANOOK, Epi, and MR voted without posting? or were they on dya before Mac?

I changed poll vote when I said I sheeped him again.

I was on mobile and too lazy to use the vote tags lmao.

[DkKoba]

the case on me thus far:

I make townreads too easily

I now have time to effort this game

My playstyle


how very compelling

[EnderWiggin]

KZA has died.

Spoiler: show

They were Yennefer of Vengerberg: Lilac and Gooseberry Smelling Sorceress from Vengerberg

Michelle has been poisoned.

It is now day 2. You have 48 hours left.

Rip KZA

Welp... If someone heals me, ok, if not, i will try to give my all this day.

I am not sorry i sheeped Mac, i think though he is alive because he was so wrong.

I think he's alive because in a power-role game there's probably a protective of some sort. And wolves would take a guess at Mac probably being the target.

[DkKoba]

the koba of last year would give urist a townread for being so obnoxiously wrong about my alignment in this way but i have learned better since and I give them a cautionary unvote for now
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[EnderWiggin]

epi is just a silly town and i wont take criticism >:(

I agree with this take.

[EnderWiggin]

its me being mad that dya was flipped when with my unique blend of reading style i found them town :3

That's wolfy tbh

oh sorry i should have rescheduled my date to not be during EoD sorry

Damn right. Imagine having priorities that aren't mafia games. That's sus.

[sig]

Who's actively played alot of games with KZA lately and among them who would shoot them for the fun factor?

Along the lines of we always kill KZA N1/vig them so lets do it again lolz.

i think that she died coz she was a consensus townread and mafia wanted to avoid killing mac for whatever their reason was. other than that, radish, falcon and 112 share home community with her

Yea, looking over there ISO nothing stands out from the second half of the day besides consensus town read. Which sucks since I love NKA, one of my preferred hunting methods.

I also know it's a running joke that Ender vigges her, so that's something I'll be keeping in mind. But, nothing with that would be a home run.

[DkKoba]

fun hint for people trying to read others: don't expect people to be omniscient(goes for both alignments! like when scum make mistakes!) - don't assume someone is scum just because they did something that is anti-town from your POV(feel free to push on it but its silly and you will eat crow more often than not for it without applying critical analysis!) - don't refuse to dialogue people and shut down their counterreasoning. if someone is providing you with a good plausible explaination it should matter, otherwise you're confbiasing and not analyzing holisticlaly <3 (this one is one I struggle with the most so i understand!!!)

[Michelle]

I'm someone you *need* to have experience with town!me to understand that premises on reading me are grossly incorrect if you are default scumreading me.

I am also a person who feeds into the ego of having to fight off any scumread on me so yeah.

Why am I scum holistically? Let me dissect it that way, Michelle.

Holistically you are scum because you share TMI reads, you had a very low impact day 1 and now you play overexplaining things about your play instead trying to solve

I don't want for you to be scum, that's a shade and i don't accept it. I provided serious arguments and of course you would not say i am right, isn't it?

I think you'll find those same kind of "TMI" reads in the towngames i linked.

In short - I am at least decent at this game and have found I can townhunt pretty well.

Did you consider that angle or am I just stupid in your eyes?

I sense a condescendent mindset at you and i am kind enough to ignore it.
I saw scum refusing any scum read for them before, that's a defence hard to put in practice because it requires effort, but is doable and effective.
If i am wrong in this moment, the 30th of August at 01:44 am, i will probably find you, but you doubted my capacity before even trying to understand me, and even put wrong ideas in my eyes.
What is the putpose of this post after all?

[DkKoba]

imma be real i would have to shoot tutuu n1 if im scum bc i would feel bad lying to her ;-;

[Epignosis]

the case on me thus far:

I make townreads too easily

I now have time to effort this game

My playstyle


how very compelling

The case on you thus far:

You claimed to have regret that Dya died even though you felt good about that spot...

...that had zero posts prior to Dya coming in.

You claimed you didn't have time to reread things (which means you read them once) and that you hate third parties, so you picked Poison (when there were plenty of mafia candidates to choose from - surely as a civilian you hate mafia more than third parties?).

You called my posts bad but called me good for them.

You haven't clarified how you arrived at a position that I am good based on my "bad" posts.

You haven't specified when you read my posts but couldn't (re)read Mac's posts Day 1.

You are avoiding my questions.

That is the case against you thus far.

[DkKoba]

I'm someone you *need* to have experience with town!me to understand that premises on reading me are grossly incorrect if you are default scumreading me.

I am also a person who feeds into the ego of having to fight off any scumread on me so yeah.

Why am I scum holistically? Let me dissect it that way, Michelle.

Holistically you are scum because you share TMI reads, you had a very low impact day 1 and now you play overexplaining things about your play instead trying to solve

I don't want for you to be scum, that's a shade and i don't accept it. I provided serious arguments and of course you would not say i am right, isn't it?

I think you'll find those same kind of "TMI" reads in the towngames i linked.

In short - I am at least decent at this game and have found I can townhunt pretty well.

Did you consider that angle or am I just stupid in your eyes?

I sense a condescendent mindset at you and i am kind enough to ignore it.
I saw scum refusing any scum read for them before, that's a defence hard to put in practice because it requires effort, but is doable and effective.
If i am wrong in this moment, the 30th of August at 01:44 am, i will probably find you, but you doubted my capacity before even trying to understand me, and even put wrong ideas in my eyes.
What is the putpose of this post after all?

its me being annoyed at you being confbiased on something that is literally just my towngame. you could ask more useful questions like how i reached my townreads.


and i do give reasonings its just very hard to parse because im autistic and its stuff thats like not exactly verbal that i see usually

[Epignosis]

its me being mad that dya was flipped when with my unique blend of reading style i found them town :3

That's wolfy tbh

oh sorry i should have rescheduled my date to not be during EoD sorry

Damn right. Imagine having priorities that aren't mafia games. That's sus.

That's not why DkKoba is suspicious.

[tutuu]

imma be real i would have to shoot tutuu n1 if im scum bc i would feel bad lying to her ;-;

nah its cool iss just a game, if ur mafia do manipulate me all u can. i'd be honored to, it's like fencing u know. good competitive sportsmanship

if i gotta be honest, i scumread u more than im expressing, and im afraid to expess it coz im not the type to argue with my scumreads too much on why i think they're scum, and im afraid if u are town that u will be upset at me and also id be afraid if ur town that u'd feel antagonized by too much ppl

[Michelle]

if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle

I eagerly await tearing it down.

You want me to loose my time in your empty Iso.
No, i will not.

I have you as almost lock scum and i will move forward
The sole reason i stayed until now is because i waited for a sparkle from you who didn't came.

I'd love to share my honest thoughts but those would get me in trouble because they are not too nice.

I will content myself with you being able to eat massive crow when you enter the dead chat EOD today.

I don't get the last sentence. Can you reformulate?

[DkKoba]

the case on me thus far:

I make townreads too easily

I now have time to effort this game

My playstyle


how very compelling

The case on you thus far:

You claimed to have regret that Dya died even though you felt good about that spot...

...that had zero posts prior to Dya coming in.

You claimed you didn't have time to reread things (which means you read them once) and that you hate third parties, so you picked Poison (when there were plenty of mafia candidates to choose from - surely as a civilian you hate mafia more than third parties?).

You called my posts bad but called me good for them.

You haven't clarified how you arrived at a position that I am good based on my "bad" posts.

You haven't specified when you read my posts but couldn't (re)read Mac's posts Day 1.

You are avoiding my questions.

That is the case against you thus far.

ok fam do u want to know why i think your posts are bad?

i think your reading style is completely bonkers and doesn't actually catch scum

but i can fucking *see* that you're trying and your mind is whirring in that direction of finding scum and NOT fabricating reads.



thats how


is that satisfactory?

And the dya thing is prob me being tired as shit last night rereading and thinking i would townread dya there and i mistook it as me seeing it before the flip. i dont remember much of yesterday. I'm being honest and truthful and i'm not perfect.

[tutuu]

its me being mad that dya was flipped when with my unique blend of reading style i found them town :3

That's wolfy tbh

oh sorry i should have rescheduled my date to not be during EoD sorry

Damn right. Imagine having priorities that aren't mafia games. That's sus.

yo werent u the guy who said d1 "yall should focus on the game more, stop messin around"

so u come in day 2 and this is the most interesting thing u find to reply to? nothin else?

(i dont mean to knock on u like on a personal level ofc, this is all game related. i find your behavior eyebrow rising)

[DkKoba]

if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle

I eagerly await tearing it down.

You want me to loose my time in your empty Iso.
No, i will not.

I have you as almost lock scum and i will move forward
The sole reason i stayed until now is because i waited for a sparkle from you who didn't came.

I'd love to share my honest thoughts but those would get me in trouble because they are not too nice.

I will content myself with you being able to eat massive crow when you enter the dead chat EOD today.

I don't get the last sentence. Can you reformulate?

I will be content with you being able to see how wrong you are when you enter dead chat EOD

[DkKoba]

its me being mad that dya was flipped when with my unique blend of reading style i found them town :3

That's wolfy tbh

oh sorry i should have rescheduled my date to not be during EoD sorry

Damn right. Imagine having priorities that aren't mafia games. That's sus.

yo werent u the guy who said d1 "yall should focus on the game more, stop messin around"

so u come in day 2 and this is the most interesting thing u find to reply to? nothin else?

(i dont mean to knock on u like on a personal level ofc, this is all game related. i find your behavior eyebrow rising)

nooo stop theyre being useful for me rn in grounding me :3 i need a grounding slot that makes me feel like im not crazy. idc if theyre scum >:( im finding usefullness right now!!

[tutuu]

its me being mad that dya was flipped when with my unique blend of reading style i found them town :3

That's wolfy tbh

oh sorry i should have rescheduled my date to not be during EoD sorry

Damn right. Imagine having priorities that aren't mafia games. That's sus.

yo werent u the guy who said d1 "yall should focus on the game more, stop messin around"

so u come in day 2 and this is the most interesting thing u find to reply to? nothin else?

(i dont mean to knock on u like on a personal level ofc, this is all game related. i find your behavior eyebrow rising)

nooo stop theyre being useful for me rn in grounding me :3 i need a grounding slot that makes me feel like im not crazy. idc if theyre scum >:( im finding usefullness right now!!

iight bet, that makes sense

[DkKoba]

i look at my posts in my recent towngames including this one and i think like i will be so fucked next time i rand scum(and i did lose my last scumgame lol) and it scares me ;-;

[Michelle]

I'm someone you *need* to have experience with town!me to understand that premises on reading me are grossly incorrect if you are default scumreading me.

I am also a person who feeds into the ego of having to fight off any scumread on me so yeah.

Why am I scum holistically? Let me dissect it that way, Michelle.

Holistically you are scum because you share TMI reads, you had a very low impact day 1 and now you play overexplaining things about your play instead trying to solve

I don't want for you to be scum, that's a shade and i don't accept it. I provided serious arguments and of course you would not say i am right, isn't it?

I think you'll find those same kind of "TMI" reads in the towngames i linked.

In short - I am at least decent at this game and have found I can townhunt pretty well.

Did you consider that angle or am I just stupid in your eyes?

I sense a condescendent mindset at you and i am kind enough to ignore it.
I saw scum refusing any scum read for them before, that's a defence hard to put in practice because it requires effort, but is doable and effective.
If i am wrong in this moment, the 30th of August at 01:44 am, i will probably find you, but you doubted my capacity before even trying to understand me, and even put wrong ideas in my eyes.
What is the putpose of this post after all?

its me being annoyed at you being confbiased on something that is literally just my towngame. you could ask more useful questions like how i reached my townreads.


and i do give reasonings its just very hard to parse because im autistic and its stuff thats like not exactly verbal that i see usually

Don't use ate on me, please
i need your analysis for every read and since we started to talk you didn't post your reads in a cohesive manner
Random scattered reads, yes, i read. A real read, backed up by reasons, no.
Also what's your read on me?

[EnderWiggin]

its me being mad that dya was flipped when with my unique blend of reading style i found them town :3

That's wolfy tbh

Yes that’s kind off what I’m getting at. There post flip reaction is really odd.

Also I hate when players start to claim kind off without solid info and no pressure. I’ve done that so often as mafia so always a bit pinged by it

no you arent <3 you're just mafia

Sure and the reasoning is?

Honestly originally thought you scum slipped, but that would require the flip to be a Miller which is a lot of ifs.

Still weird how quickly you OMGUS

This is the weirdest post I've seen yet.

Miller is Bastard.

This isn't a Bastard game.

I can understand Rondo making that mistake as he's new to Forum rules and Bastard stuff but I woulda thought Sig knows that.

[Urist]

the case on me thus far:

I make townreads too easily

I now have time to effort this game

My playstyle


how very compelling

The case on you thus far:

You claimed to have regret that Dya died even though you felt good about that spot...

...that had zero posts prior to Dya coming in.

You claimed you didn't have time to reread things (which means you read them once) and that you hate third parties, so you picked Poison (when there were plenty of mafia candidates to choose from - surely as a civilian you hate mafia more than third parties?).

You called my posts bad but called me good for them.

You haven't clarified how you arrived at a position that I am good based on my "bad" posts.

You haven't specified when you read my posts but couldn't (re)read Mac's posts Day 1.

You are avoiding my questions.

That is the case against you thus far.

Oh don't forget that they tried to confirm themselves in an angleshooty way with something that isn't AI

And also outing that poison is not the poisoner for ??reasons

And the fact that they seem to be a roleblocker which is a ++scum role

[DkKoba]

i didn't think you were particularly town at SoD but it evolved into a townread since because i think youre genuine in how you'[re reading me and it adds up to another player archaetype that has opposite reads on me based on my alignment(you townread me in bread mafia) and that's where i'm at

like a lot of my townreads boil down to "if this string of posts looks like they're putting in more than 2 braincells to determine this and aren't TMIing then they are town" and its worked for me for the average player fro the past several months and let me hard PoE scum easily.

[DkKoba]

the case on me thus far:

I make townreads too easily

I now have time to effort this game

My playstyle


how very compelling

The case on you thus far:

You claimed to have regret that Dya died even though you felt good about that spot...

...that had zero posts prior to Dya coming in.

You claimed you didn't have time to reread things (which means you read them once) and that you hate third parties, so you picked Poison (when there were plenty of mafia candidates to choose from - surely as a civilian you hate mafia more than third parties?).

You called my posts bad but called me good for them.

You haven't clarified how you arrived at a position that I am good based on my "bad" posts.

You haven't specified when you read my posts but couldn't (re)read Mac's posts Day 1.

You are avoiding my questions.

That is the case against you thus far.

Oh don't forget that they tried to confirm themselves in an angleshooty way with something that isn't AI

And also outing that poison is not the poisoner for ??reasons

And the fact that they seem to be a roleblocker which is a ++scum role

im not a roleblocker

[Michelle]

if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle

I eagerly await tearing it down.

You want me to loose my time in your empty Iso.
No, i will not.

I have you as almost lock scum and i will move forward
The sole reason i stayed until now is because i waited for a sparkle from you who didn't came.

I'd love to share my honest thoughts but those would get me in trouble because they are not too nice.

I will content myself with you being able to eat massive crow when you enter the dead chat EOD today.

I don't get the last sentence. Can you reformulate?

I will be content with you being able to see how wrong you are when you enter dead chat EOD

It's your job to change my mind on this read in this game. I will not dig in your endless Isos in other games.

[DkKoba]

the case on me thus far:

I make townreads too easily

I now have time to effort this game

My playstyle


how very compelling

The case on you thus far:

You claimed to have regret that Dya died even though you felt good about that spot...

...that had zero posts prior to Dya coming in.

You claimed you didn't have time to reread things (which means you read them once) and that you hate third parties, so you picked Poison (when there were plenty of mafia candidates to choose from - surely as a civilian you hate mafia more than third parties?).

You called my posts bad but called me good for them.

You haven't clarified how you arrived at a position that I am good based on my "bad" posts.

You haven't specified when you read my posts but couldn't (re)read Mac's posts Day 1.

You are avoiding my questions.

That is the case against you thus far.

Oh don't forget that they tried to confirm themselves in an angleshooty way with something that isn't AI

And also outing that poison is not the poisoner for ??reasons

And the fact that they seem to be a roleblocker which is a ++scum role

i outted it because it was funny

[tutuu]

its me being mad that dya was flipped when with my unique blend of reading style i found them town :3

That's wolfy tbh

Yes that’s kind off what I’m getting at. There post flip reaction is really odd.

Also I hate when players start to claim kind off without solid info and no pressure. I’ve done that so often as mafia so always a bit pinged by it

no you arent <3 you're just mafia

Sure and the reasoning is?

Honestly originally thought you scum slipped, but that would require the flip to be a Miller which is a lot of ifs.

Still weird how quickly you OMGUS

This is the weirdest post I've seen yet.

Miller is Bastard.

This isn't a Bastard game.

I can understand Rondo making that mistake as he's new to Forum rules and Bastard stuff but I woulda thought Sig knows that.

just fyi there are zero sitewide standards on what is considered bastard on the syndicate and what isnt

every host decides for themselves

some hosts write it out, jpic didnt in this case

i did alert yall about some stuff that ive found - jpic doesnt think of godfathers as bastard, so he could have put one in here. i dont think this miller thing matters

[DkKoba]

if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle

I eagerly await tearing it down.

You want me to loose my time in your empty Iso.
No, i will not.

I have you as almost lock scum and i will move forward
The sole reason i stayed until now is because i waited for a sparkle from you who didn't came.

I'd love to share my honest thoughts but those would get me in trouble because they are not too nice.

I will content myself with you being able to eat massive crow when you enter the dead chat EOD today.

I don't get the last sentence. Can you reformulate?

I will be content with you being able to see how wrong you are when you enter dead chat EOD

It's your job to change my mind on this read in this game. I will not dig in your endless Isos in other games.

you don't want to change your mind.
thats not my problem.

I'm extending the branch to give you the info needed but you swat it away like a spoiled child.

[Michelle]

i didn't think you were particularly town at SoD but it evolved into a townread since because i think youre genuine in how you'[re reading me and it adds up to another player archaetype that has opposite reads on me based on my alignment(you townread me in bread mafia) and that's where i'm at

like a lot of my townreads boil down to "if this string of posts looks like they're putting in more than 2 braincells to determine this and aren't TMIing then they are town" and its worked for me for the average player fro the past several months and let me hard PoE scum easily.

Give examples pls, it's all you say way too general

[Michelle]

if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle

I eagerly await tearing it down.

You want me to loose my time in your empty Iso.
No, i will not.

I have you as almost lock scum and i will move forward
The sole reason i stayed until now is because i waited for a sparkle from you who didn't came.

I'd love to share my honest thoughts but those would get me in trouble because they are not too nice.

I will content myself with you being able to eat massive crow when you enter the dead chat EOD today.

I don't get the last sentence. Can you reformulate?

I will be content with you being able to see how wrong you are when you enter dead chat EOD

It's your job to change my mind on this read in this game. I will not dig in your endless Isos in other games.

you don't want to change your mind.
thats not my problem.

I'm extending the branch to give you the info needed but you swat it away like a spoiled child.

You didn't give me your reads, nor the reasons for them