MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:12 am
yno tutuu it would make sense for us to work together if you're town as opposed to you working against me lol
i think u got a problem with people not sucking ur dick. i aint tedxtr or nook famlam
i got my own reads, i put them in the thread, i do my own thing
i been responding when u talk to me
if u wanna work together feel free to try. i havnt ignored u asking about my reads. ive also asked u to reconsider ur reads that i think are wrong
but "if tutuu doesnt work with me she works against me" - thats just lol
nah you've got it wrong... I am re-evaluating my read on you and considering how to manage working with you
I don't need you to suck my dick... I got my bottom ribs taken out in the 90s so I could do it myself
well, u could work with me like this - ask me for my reads and ill respond. if u think a read of mine is wrong tell me about it. if u want me to listen to a read of yours alert me of it. respect me when i disagree with you, and respect when i dont want to sheep you and instead follow my hunch. i respect others when they do so
have I been disrespectful? sorry.
nah fam u havent been disrespectful at all on a personal level
im talking purely in-game
like "if tutuu isnt with me shes against me"
"if tutuu isnt listetning to me shes undermining me"
these are just disrespectful game-related. coz like, they are based on the premise that i should suppress my independent thoughts when they differ from yours
I just like... could hear someone in spec chat being like "omg why can't tutuu and mac just work together and stop dick swinging". That's the entirety of this 180. I have access to spec chat.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:12 am
yno tutuu it would make sense for us to work together if you're town as opposed to you working against me lol
i think u got a problem with people not sucking ur dick. i aint tedxtr or nook famlam
i got my own reads, i put them in the thread, i do my own thing
i been responding when u talk to me
if u wanna work together feel free to try. i havnt ignored u asking about my reads. ive also asked u to reconsider ur reads that i think are wrong
but "if tutuu doesnt work with me she works against me" - thats just lol
nah you've got it wrong... I am re-evaluating my read on you and considering how to manage working with you
I don't need you to suck my dick... I got my bottom ribs taken out in the 90s so I could do it myself
well, u could work with me like this - ask me for my reads and ill respond. if u think a read of mine is wrong tell me about it. if u want me to listen to a read of yours alert me of it. respect me when i disagree with you, and respect when i dont want to sheep you and instead follow my hunch. i respect others when they do so
have I been disrespectful? sorry.
nah fam u havent been disrespectful at all on a personal level
im talking purely in-game
like "if tutuu isnt with me shes against me"
"if tutuu isnt listetning to me shes undermining me"
these are just disrespectful game-related. coz like, they are based on the premise that i should suppress my independent thoughts when they differ from yours
I don't want ppl suppressing their thoughts. That makes the game harder. I didn't want your acquiescence. I just felt like you have been diametrically opposed to nearly all my reads and that is often how I find mafia.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:24 am
I don't want ppl suppressing their thoughts. That makes the game harder. I didn't want your acquiescence. I just felt like you have been diametrically opposed to nearly all my reads and that is often how I find mafia.
well i dunno its just a coincidence. i dont look at your reads and purposefully reverse them lol. perhaps u could say that there are so many permutatinos in the infinite number of possible mafia games, that we've just reached one like this right here
but i do also wanna say that this is the third time we been through this. i can find u quote of u saying literally the same in radiohead mafia and goc 2020, when we were both very unaligned as well. maybe we're just very different players and have different mindsets, ionno fam
tbh the syn/tutuu dynamic heavily implies t/t ... neither of their perspectives with one another make sense as mafia/town or mafia/mafia.
Ie. Syn would be dead to rights if not for Tutuu today. However rather than just living in her pocket he is tinfoiling and sussing the shit out of her.
That isn't a w/w dynamic because Tutuu is not playing into it at all and just playing around him. She isn't earnestly distancing.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:24 am
I don't want ppl suppressing their thoughts. That makes the game harder. I didn't want your acquiescence. I just felt like you have been diametrically opposed to nearly all my reads and that is often how I find mafia.
well i dunno its just a coincidence. i dont look at your reads and purposefully reverse them lol. perhaps u could say that there are so many permutatinos in the infinite number of possible mafia games, that we've just reached one like this right here
but i do also wanna say that this is the third time we been through this. i can find u quote of u saying literally the same in radiohead mafia and goc 2020, when we were both very unaligned as well. maybe we're just very different players and have different mindsets, ionno fam
I am interested why Syn. I was having a chat with my housemates
Lack of content from D1. Tutuu says she has seen tryhard V!Syn, but isn't Syn's EOD the opposite of tryhard? I'm not sure about Syn's content Today, so it might be an outdated decision. Also, in the one game I was villa with Syn in, he was hard to read through the whole game...untill maybe a few phases before game-end. Safe decision, either way.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:24 am
I don't want ppl suppressing their thoughts. That makes the game harder. I didn't want your acquiescence. I just felt like you have been diametrically opposed to nearly all my reads and that is often how I find mafia.
well i dunno its just a coincidence. i dont look at your reads and purposefully reverse them lol. perhaps u could say that there are so many permutatinos in the infinite number of possible mafia games, that we've just reached one like this right here
but i do also wanna say that this is the third time we been through this. i can find u quote of u saying literally the same in radiohead mafia and goc 2020, when we were both very unaligned as well. maybe we're just very different players and have different mindsets, ionno fam
I am interested why Syn. I was having a chat with my housemates
Lack of content from D1. Tutuu says she has seen tryhard V!Syn, but isn't Syn's EOD the opposite of tryhard? I'm not sure about Syn's content Today, so it might be an outdated decision. Also, in the one game I was villa with Syn in, he was hard to read through the whole game...untill maybe a few phases before game-end. Safe decision, either way.
I don't think she ever said he was trying hard. Quite the opposite.
I am interested why Syn. I was having a chat with my housemates
Lack of content from D1. Tutuu says she has seen tryhard V!Syn, but isn't Syn's EOD the opposite of tryhard? I'm not sure about Syn's content Today, so it might be an outdated decision. Also, in the one game I was villa with Syn in, he was hard to read through the whole game...untill maybe a few phases before game-end. Safe decision, either way.
I don't think she ever said he was trying hard. Quite the opposite.
@Ruri i have seen tryhard town syn, if he tries hard he is town. however i have seen him be low energy as either ailgnment, and he also said he's busy IRL until the 1st
if ud like to read my post on him again
i can see why maybe its a bit confusing but - syn tryhard is town, but slacking syn is also town. in this case. it is what it is
@tutuu you matter of factly stated ruri is town not so long ago but have them out of your top tier. What's your real feels there? What keeps them from top top?
I am interested why Syn. I was having a chat with my housemates
Lack of content from D1. Tutuu says she has seen tryhard V!Syn, but isn't Syn's EOD the opposite of tryhard? I'm not sure about Syn's content Today, so it might be an outdated decision. Also, in the one game I was villa with Syn in, he was hard to read through the whole game...untill maybe a few phases before game-end. Safe decision, either way.
I don't think she ever said he was trying hard. Quite the opposite.
According to her...
"if he tryhards its a towntell for him. he can be low energy as either alignment."
"i believe that it is more likely that if he is mafia, he will put the extra effort for his team to leave a self-pres vote."
If Syn tryhards, it's a towntell? Or am I misreading that she actually meant to say scumtell?
But given what you said in #3410, I guess that should resolve itself.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:32 am
@tutuu you matter of factly stated ruri is town not so long ago but have them out of your top tier. What's your real feels there? What keeps them from top top?
hmmm. there are *stuff* that i haven't shared with the thread. let me think on it a bit before i procceed. i wont forget to respond to this later
It was a lot of Koba getting people's faces and then a bunch of stuff I don't remember and then Mac and Tutuu glaring at each other though they now seem to have a tenative truce.
I am interested why Syn. I was having a chat with my housemates
Lack of content from D1. Tutuu says she has seen tryhard V!Syn, but isn't Syn's EOD the opposite of tryhard? I'm not sure about Syn's content Today, so it might be an outdated decision. Also, in the one game I was villa with Syn in, he was hard to read through the whole game...untill maybe a few phases before game-end. Safe decision, either way.
I don't think she ever said he was trying hard. Quite the opposite.
@Ruri i have seen tryhard town syn, if he tries hard he is town. however i have seen him be low energy as either ailgnment, and he also said he's busy IRL until the 1st
if ud like to read my post on him again
i can see why maybe its a bit confusing but - syn tryhard is town, but slacking syn is also town. in this case. it is what it is
I see. Lack of a "but" in the original post. Well, didn't know his IRL situation. Makes sense.
Koba probably has to be town because he just wouldn't shut up.
Scotty posted a couple posts that pinged me and I remember now I was supposed to iso him for Ted and never did. Sorry Ted.
Nanook is probably town. There was no discomfort in dropping the gimmick and his case on Epi felt too nuanced to come from town. Not that Nanook isn't a good scum who can fake townie things, but that just felt like it was coming from a perspective that's harder to fake.
Epi is probably town anyway though. Dayvig thing.
I've never seen tutuu wolf and I'm wary of her because of that. She was super whiteknighty in D1 and that pinged me, but her explanations for why she townreads everyone's scumreads make sense and are takes I tend to share. Her gang of six is pretty different to eveyrone else's and scum tend to include a usual suspect or two so they have room to help push a consensus wagon if they want to. So that feels town to me. But then Mac post his 'tutuu is scary' post and now I don't know.
Any other thoughts I had whilst reading have escaped me.
