Smilies Mafia - GAME END

[EnderWiggin]

I'd apologise to Rondo but I had a legit reason to think they might be scum =P

[RondoDimBuckle]

Man of Many Townclaims:
Dyson sphere

His Cadre:
RondoDimBuckle
Scotty
ilario

The Narrator
EnderWiggin

The Poor unfortunate souls:
falcon45ca
Gavial
Jackofhearts2005
Lime Coke
TonyStarkPrime

NOW WHAT DO WE DO WITH POOR UNFORTUNATE SOULS?

We eat them.

Well no, we butter them up with words like "I trust you" and then make them walk the plank but you get my meaning.

Jack is town. Falc felt town. LC was town to me.

Honestly TSP is just a go-getter pick straight up.

Time to re-read ISO because I did have TSP town.

[EnderWiggin]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Prelim while I work this out

[EnderWiggin]

Rondo is my backing act because he knows what music I am referencing.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'd apologise to Rondo but I had a legit reason to think they might be scum =P

I mean I was acting scummy, I didnt want to get offed till I got some good info

[EnderWiggin]

Joking!

Nook town.

I’m coining

OMGUA

to describe these situtations

No, you're awesome!

Hmmmmmm

[ilario]

I blocked Jack last night, my block is also a heal. So Jack was attacked and healed or Jack is wolf and was attacking and blocked

Wooooooo I’m glad I came to the right conclusion on u and nook being tvt

[ilario]

And I mean we can probably bump jack up into the towncore unless ilario has some cool stuff to say and can offer more info on the block/save.

Plus Ender, you are waiting to talk about your watch

Nopeeeee I got nothing extra to add mech wise. I think even if dyson is lying the list he gave of his checks feel pretty pure to me. I’ll need to double check his reasoning that he went on us because we interacted the most with him to make sure his logic checks out.

[RondoDimBuckle]

And I mean we can probably bump jack up into the towncore unless ilario has some cool stuff to say and can offer more info on the block/save.

Plus Ender, you are waiting to talk about your watch

Nopeeeee I got nothing extra to add mech wise. I think even if dyson is lying the list he gave of his checks feel pretty pure to me. I’ll need to double check his reasoning that he went on us because we interacted the most with him to make sure his logic checks out.

Well I mean you're in it

[ilario]

I don’t mind eliminating dyson if people think he’s scummy, but I do think eliminating him just to confirm his check isn’t that great of a reason. Because we risk a potential miselim if he’s town and we don’t really get much in return. Sure, let’s say he’s town and we confirm his check that really doesn’t help us all that much because rondo is already confirmed town, I feel like I’m already universally townread, the only person of interest in the three is maybe Scotty? But he seems reasonably towny thus far today. So I don’t think a dyson town flip really helps that much? Considering nobody in the poe is even in his list to be cleared. So I wouldn’t vote the slot out unless people genuinely have a reason to believe that he will flip scum

[RondoDimBuckle]

I don’t mind eliminating dyson if people think he’s scummy, but I do think eliminating him just to confirm his check isn’t that great of a reason. Because we risk a potential miselim if he’s town and we don’t really get much in return. Sure, let’s say he’s town and we confirm his check that really doesn’t help us all that much because rondo is already confirmed town, I feel like I’m already universally townread, the only person of interest in the three is maybe Scotty? But he seems reasonably towny thus far today. So I don’t think a dyson town flip really helps that much? Considering nobody in the poe is even in his list to be cleared. So I wouldn’t vote the slot out unless people genuinely have a reason to believe that he will flip scum

I see you as more scummy than scotty personally of the three of us.

[ilario]

I don’t mind eliminating dyson if people think he’s scummy, but I do think eliminating him just to confirm his check isn’t that great of a reason. Because we risk a potential miselim if he’s town and we don’t really get much in return. Sure, let’s say he’s town and we confirm his check that really doesn’t help us all that much because rondo is already confirmed town, I feel like I’m already universally townread, the only person of interest in the three is maybe Scotty? But he seems reasonably towny thus far today. So I don’t think a dyson town flip really helps that much? Considering nobody in the poe is even in his list to be cleared. So I wouldn’t vote the slot out unless people genuinely have a reason to believe that he will flip scum

I see you as more scummy than scotty personally of the three of us.

Oooo spicy, not that is really matter but any reason why?

[ilario]

Gavs posting on page 28 is towny

[ilario]

I have a role, but I haven't used it and I don't think I will.

Can you elaborate on why?

Yeah, I don't see it as overly helpful to town. I can jail someone such that they aren't able to participate in the game for a round, can't vote and can't be voted for.

I don't see that as helpful to town really

You know what?

I'm actually agreeing with some other people.

Falcon town.

Mhm indeed.
I’m telling you it’s TSP and Jack.

If its TSP and Jack you need to reconcile why Jack killed Seanzie day one with me if you want me to believe you

He was aiming for a Falcon ML but TSP didn’t want that and wanted a LC ML but Jack didn’t want to vote LC with TSP because it’d look sus so he voted Sean who he stated he had previous suspicion on.

How are you so sure that both slots can be classified as a ML to you?

[ilario]

Other than that I don’t have any new thoughts

Other than tsp is probably town. I’ve played with him as wolf and there’s a marked tonal difference between his scum game and town game

Would love a response to this first initial read on D1, and if it still stands, ilario!

Oh nah, that was just an initial gut read. He’s trended down since then which is why I voted for him yesterday

[ilario]

Honestly if Dyson red then I wanna say ilario could be scum.

Why am I more likely than any of the other people he tried to clear?

[ilario]

Just ISO’d ilario and don’t remember why I read them as town. Matter of fact, i cased them after the Seanzie flip and the whole thing was icky.

Another thing I noticed is that they made a comment after Seanzie garnered votes calling Seanzie rand>town. Then after I made my case in day 2, they proceeded to go into defensive mode, saying things like “ I didn’t have much of an opinion on seanzie, or most slots at that point since there wasn’t much game related content to go through.”

Then pivoting with redirection:

Spoiler: show

“Though my question to you Scotty is that why is my handling of seanzie one that has high scum equity whereas when I’m concerned on tsp, it seems as though you’re okay to give him a pass? On one hand I wasn’t sure on the wagons so I decided to iso both the slots in contention and the one game related line I found I thought was slightly villagery, whereas tsp actively tried to steer the wagon away from seanzie much more vocally. Why is the latter less concerning to you?”

‘I know I look bad, but this other guy looks way worse and I did nothing wrong officer can you arrest the bad man I just told you about?’

Or my favorite: “There really wasn’t much there for me to interact with or to form a read on. I’m sure if you read the iso yourself even with the power of hindsight on your side, you’ll agree that there’s nothing about those 18 posts that exceedingly scream wolf or town from his posts”

So the argument is nullified by the fact that they looked at Seanzie after thinking he and rondo looked to be t/t, called Seanzie rand>town, and comes back in day 2 conveniently saying they weren’t able to form a read on him. “There’s nothing about those posts that scream wolf or town” except you called him town for those posts so…



Another thing is one of their lasts posts at EOD was to cast doubt at TSP: “I’m not sure how to feel about tsp this eod” before the flip
And then revisiting it as soon as day 2 started: “Tsps eod yesterday is pretty concerning”
No talk of the caught wolf, ready to advance on a target.


Meh. Scummy vibes. Obviously we never lynch this slot unless dyson is red. But if dyson is red, I go here first.

Hmmmm, whyd you ask the doc to be on me end of d2 if you found those lines scummy?

[ilario]

I want some ilario in the thread
and a couple hot wings on the side

Sorry rl stuff has caught up with me and when I saw that I’m potentially cleared my approach went from posting to just sitting back and watching how others post. It’s how I always play if I think I’m clear.

[ilario]

I don’t mind eliminating dyson if people think he’s scummy, but I do think eliminating him just to confirm his check isn’t that great of a reason. Because we risk a potential miselim if he’s town and we don’t really get much in return. Sure, let’s say he’s town and we confirm his check that really doesn’t help us all that much because rondo is already confirmed town, I feel like I’m already universally townread, the only person of interest in the three is maybe Scotty? But he seems reasonably towny thus far today. So I don’t think a dyson town flip really helps that much? Considering nobody in the poe is even in his list to be cleared. So I wouldn’t vote the slot out unless people genuinely have a reason to believe that he will flip scum

this post doesnt hold up so much rn that i saw the tinfoils emerging on me

[RondoDimBuckle]

I don’t mind eliminating dyson if people think he’s scummy, but I do think eliminating him just to confirm his check isn’t that great of a reason. Because we risk a potential miselim if he’s town and we don’t really get much in return. Sure, let’s say he’s town and we confirm his check that really doesn’t help us all that much because rondo is already confirmed town, I feel like I’m already universally townread, the only person of interest in the three is maybe Scotty? But he seems reasonably towny thus far today. So I don’t think a dyson town flip really helps that much? Considering nobody in the poe is even in his list to be cleared. So I wouldn’t vote the slot out unless people genuinely have a reason to believe that he will flip scum

I see you as more scummy than scotty personally of the three of us.

Oooo spicy, not that is really matter but any reason why?

I know ender better than you and he is giving off heavy town vibes now to a point where if he is wolf other people will have to catch him instead of me. You I dont know so If someone said GTH shoot one. Id pick you

[RondoDimBuckle]

Honestly if Dyson red then I wanna say ilario could be scum.

Why am I more likely than any of the other people he tried to clear?

to be clear I think you are most likely town

[RondoDimBuckle]

dead air not happy jan

[Lime Coke]

No...actually....

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

I'll go here.

What do you do at night LC

Playing either MK11, 2K, or whatever game I decide to play. Watch random stuff. Few other things.

Depending on when I start work I'm either in bed by 12 AM or 2 AM my time.

Also I'm amazed I hit red D1 given my reads have been so far up shit creek this game.

I'm sorry Nanook, I just re-read you and realised I missed my own stated town-meta on you lmao.

I'm amazed I even got a scumread correct. That rarely happens.


Going back to sleep. Later.

[Lime Coke]

Oh yeah I know this is self meta but fuck it guess if it keeps anything off me.

I don't hell bus my own partners, especially THAT early in the game. I literally brought the attention onto Sean at the start of the game.

I don't like bussing unless I'm forced to, especially when I know I suck as mafia. There's that.

If you want me to claim what I have, I totally can when I'm up. My role is basically useless and I'm pretty much not using it the rest of the game.

[Lime Coke]

Actually fuck it I'll just claim.

At night I reflect all actions that target me.

Minus any that kills.

I have to use it twice by N4 or else I die.

I've already used it both nights. I'm not bothering with it again because I don't see the mechanical advantage of it.

[Lime Coke]

Back to sleep I go.

[ilario]

I would be against a lc or gav elim today

[ilario]

Still trying to work out how I feel about falcons slot today

[Scotty]

I don’t mind eliminating dyson if people think he’s scummy, but I do think eliminating him just to confirm his check isn’t that great of a reason. Because we risk a potential miselim if he’s town and we don’t really get much in return. Sure, let’s say he’s town and we confirm his check that really doesn’t help us all that much because rondo is already confirmed town, I feel like I’m already universally townread, the only person of interest in the three is maybe Scotty? But he seems reasonably towny thus far today. So I don’t think a dyson town flip really helps that much? Considering nobody in the poe is even in his list to be cleared. So I wouldn’t vote the slot out unless people genuinely have a reason to believe that he will flip scum

Hilarious, because if anyone in d1 looks the best vote-wise, it’s probably jack, then me. For me to be scum, I would have had to establish a bus strategy early and never change it. I don’t know why I’m sus at all just based on that.

You however,..

[Scotty]

Just ISO’d ilario and don’t remember why I read them as town. Matter of fact, i cased them after the Seanzie flip and the whole thing was icky.

Another thing I noticed is that they made a comment after Seanzie garnered votes calling Seanzie rand>town. Then after I made my case in day 2, they proceeded to go into defensive mode, saying things like “ I didn’t have much of an opinion on seanzie, or most slots at that point since there wasn’t much game related content to go through.”

Then pivoting with redirection:

Spoiler: show

“Though my question to you Scotty is that why is my handling of seanzie one that has high scum equity whereas when I’m concerned on tsp, it seems as though you’re okay to give him a pass? On one hand I wasn’t sure on the wagons so I decided to iso both the slots in contention and the one game related line I found I thought was slightly villagery, whereas tsp actively tried to steer the wagon away from seanzie much more vocally. Why is the latter less concerning to you?”

‘I know I look bad, but this other guy looks way worse and I did nothing wrong officer can you arrest the bad man I just told you about?’

Or my favorite: “There really wasn’t much there for me to interact with or to form a read on. I’m sure if you read the iso yourself even with the power of hindsight on your side, you’ll agree that there’s nothing about those 18 posts that exceedingly scream wolf or town from his posts”

So the argument is nullified by the fact that they looked at Seanzie after thinking he and rondo looked to be t/t, called Seanzie rand>town, and comes back in day 2 conveniently saying they weren’t able to form a read on him. “There’s nothing about those posts that scream wolf or town” except you called him town for those posts so…



Another thing is one of their lasts posts at EOD was to cast doubt at TSP: “I’m not sure how to feel about tsp this eod” before the flip
And then revisiting it as soon as day 2 started: “Tsps eod yesterday is pretty concerning”
No talk of the caught wolf, ready to advance on a target.


Meh. Scummy vibes. Obviously we never lynch this slot unless dyson is red. But if dyson is red, I go here first.

Hmmmm, whyd you ask the doc to be on me end of d2 if you found those lines scummy?

I wholeheartedly forgot the entire Seanzie interaction and the case I made on you from early d2 to end of day, if you can believe it

[Scotty]

I don’t mind eliminating dyson if people think he’s scummy, but I do think eliminating him just to confirm his check isn’t that great of a reason. Because we risk a potential miselim if he’s town and we don’t really get much in return. Sure, let’s say he’s town and we confirm his check that really doesn’t help us all that much because rondo is already confirmed town, I feel like I’m already universally townread, the only person of interest in the three is maybe Scotty? But he seems reasonably towny thus far today. So I don’t think a dyson town flip really helps that much? Considering nobody in the poe is even in his list to be cleared. So I wouldn’t vote the slot out unless people genuinely have a reason to believe that he will flip scum

this post doesnt hold up so much rn that i saw the tinfoils emerging on me

To be clear, dyson chop clears us so I’m not gunning for you whatsoever

[Scotty]

Actually fuck it I'll just claim.

At night I reflect all actions that target me.

Minus any that kills.

I have to use it twice by N4 or else I die.

I've already used it both nights. I'm not bothering with it again because I don't see the mechanical advantage of it.

I can believe that.

Also lol at that role

[Scotty]

ok guess I’ll keep my vote on TSP for now in light of the lack of new insight.

Gav seems convinced TSP is one of the perps. Probably the most optimal chop today provided it isn’t Gav himself, but he’s again digging himself a big ole hole.

If it really is jack and tsp, what a big ole hole they dug themselves on D1 by chopping their own for town cred. Bold strategy, Cotton.

tsp is the least clear out of both of them, and jack seems more like the proposed kill than the killer right now

[ilario]

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

I’ll join ya on that vote chief

[ilario]

Oh shit I didn’t even notice he already had 4 votes

[ilario]

Hmmmm dyson mentioned that he checked rondo myself and Scotty since we had the most interactions with him but rondo had 0 interactions with dyson before d3, and gav had the most and wasn’t checked

[Scotty]

Oh shit I didn’t even notice he already had 4 votes

Now he’s rich!

[Scotty]

Hmmmm dyson mentioned that he checked rondo myself and Scotty since we had the most interactions with him but rondo had 0 interactions with dyson before d3, and gav had the most and wasn’t checked

If dyson is red, we have a bit more digging to do.

But in terms of general thread towncore, I don’t think it’s a terrible group.

@Dyson sphere why did you pick those 3 players in particular?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Hmmmm dyson mentioned that he checked rondo myself and Scotty since we had the most interactions with him but rondo had 0 interactions with dyson before d3, and gav had the most and wasn’t checked

I dont think 0 before day 3 is correct but I could be wrong. I am high posting but maybe I didnt see anything worth saying to Dyson

[EnderWiggin]

I don’t mind eliminating dyson if people think he’s scummy, but I do think eliminating him just to confirm his check isn’t that great of a reason. Because we risk a potential miselim if he’s town and we don’t really get much in return. Sure, let’s say he’s town and we confirm his check that really doesn’t help us all that much because rondo is already confirmed town, I feel like I’m already universally townread, the only person of interest in the three is maybe Scotty? But he seems reasonably towny thus far today. So I don’t think a dyson town flip really helps that much? Considering nobody in the poe is even in his list to be cleared. So I wouldn’t vote the slot out unless people genuinely have a reason to believe that he will flip scum

I see you as more scummy than scotty personally of the three of us.

Oooo spicy, not that is really matter but any reason why?

I know ender better than you and he is giving off heavy town vibes now to a point where if he is wolf other people will have to catch him instead of me. You I dont know so If someone said GTH shoot one. Id pick you

Yo.

He's asking about Scotty not me?

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Lime ] aubergine Just in case you want to pivot while I am asleep?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Voting for tsp because gav said so is so obviously a bad strategy that I’m disappointed in the three of you who are town

[EnderWiggin]

Naaaah I'm not pivoting to lime tbh.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Does the day end today I have no clue

[EnderWiggin]

Does the day end today I have no clue

7 and a half hours away.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I don’t mind eliminating dyson if people think he’s scummy, but I do think eliminating him just to confirm his check isn’t that great of a reason. Because we risk a potential miselim if he’s town and we don’t really get much in return. Sure, let’s say he’s town and we confirm his check that really doesn’t help us all that much because rondo is already confirmed town, I feel like I’m already universally townread, the only person of interest in the three is maybe Scotty? But he seems reasonably towny thus far today. So I don’t think a dyson town flip really helps that much? Considering nobody in the poe is even in his list to be cleared. So I wouldn’t vote the slot out unless people genuinely have a reason to believe that he will flip scum

I see you as more scummy than scotty personally of the three of us.

Oooo spicy, not that is really matter but any reason why?

I know ender better than you and he is giving off heavy town vibes now to a point where if he is wolf other people will have to catch him instead of me. You I dont know so If someone said GTH shoot one. Id pick you

Yo.

He's asking about Scotty not me?

Yeah I just wanted to talk about the towncore list atm not just scotty the highlighted part was what I was saying about scotty.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Naaaah I'm not pivoting to lime tbh.

who is the pivot then?

@Scotty @ilario

[TonyStarkPrime]

Not chopping Dyson is good though

[TonyStarkPrime]

Vote Gav

None of his pushes have been filled with that town!gav spirit, him dropping gimmick when pressured is concerning, and now he’s pushing me (I think(?)) which I personally don’t like

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’ll like ping @falcon45ca and ask how the neighborhood is going though