The Witcher Mafia [Game Over]

[Made]

I really don't want to catch up, did Epi say he was gonna shoot someone today?

[112]

Hi Bo! Have you read the thread? Parts of it?

just when I come on. I read what's fresh. I'm not a good retroactive player, so I'm not even going to try to read back this game.

Reading Bo's iso, this is the link for it

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/searc ... 819&t=2203

Radishes came with a TR based on tone iirc.
Idk what to say, Bo can post such things as mafia as well

The Iso is NAI but if Bo is villager why he has so little pressure on him?

For real. It's been literally just me.

What's your Poe now?

Made
Tutuu
Nook
Falcon
Sig
MR
TSP
BoSyn

I'm that order from least yeetable to most.

Other pieces would come together after and I'm not scum reading anyone else at the moment.

I personally see Nook as town. He hasnt moved his read on me all game. He could have the wool over my eyes but I think his posting has been town as well

if i'm trying to be critical of rondo i can find stuff in this post i don't like

[112]

I really don't want to catch up, did Epi say he was gonna shoot someone today?

irl?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

i will now take questions

Tell me please how do you read Rondo and why

closer to neutral than anything but i've been shifting around. i had him as slightly town before i left the thread yesterday and went to sleep. part of me feels that if the town's best guess is rondo we're probably not winning this game. whether that should have any effect on how i read him idk.

to be honest i feel like my heart thinks he's town and that i'm being somewhat peer-pressured into thinking he's wolfier than he actually is to me.

i think what i called abrasiveness in him is usually a wolf trait but i don't think it's wolfy here. not sure i can really elaborate on that, but just that he's been very consistently posting with attitude in every post i've read makes me like him more somehow. like it doesn't feel like an act.

as far as solvey stuff from rondo, i don't really have anything in mind, but i've melded with some posts and insights iirc and he seems to be actually contributing better than others?

like i'm not saying he can't be wolf but i don't understand fully why he's your first choice

I think he is the wolfiest player.
I get your pov too, the wolfiest may not be a wolf, but how can we know?
Because i was wrong on Koba i don't want to push a read i have that much and i need to check it with people who show another approach than mine.
Until now Nanook said Rondo is towny and you said the above.
Alison said we wait before we lynch Wilgy's claim
Idk anymore. I will wait as well

this is why my vote is still on rondo tbh. he reads as the scummiest player in the game. Rondo doesn't have a scummy town meta does he? if he does that changes things a bit, but if he doesn't, in a role madness situation this one, I feel like mafia fundamentals are the way to go

Theres no such thing as a "scummy town meta," that just means you're bad at reading them tbh

But yes he does get misread a fair bit sometimes, particularly by people who have a narrower view of what acceptable town play looks like/snobs

[Made]

i will now take questions

Tell me please how do you read Rondo and why

closer to neutral than anything but i've been shifting around. i had him as slightly town before i left the thread yesterday and went to sleep. part of me feels that if the town's best guess is rondo we're probably not winning this game. whether that should have any effect on how i read him idk.

to be honest i feel like my heart thinks he's town and that i'm being somewhat peer-pressured into thinking he's wolfier than he actually is to me.

i think what i called abrasiveness in him is usually a wolf trait but i don't think it's wolfy here. not sure i can really elaborate on that, but just that he's been very consistently posting with attitude in every post i've read makes me like him more somehow. like it doesn't feel like an act.

as far as solvey stuff from rondo, i don't really have anything in mind, but i've melded with some posts and insights iirc and he seems to be actually contributing better than others?

like i'm not saying he can't be wolf but i don't understand fully why he's your first choice

I think he is the wolfiest player.
I get your pov too, the wolfiest may not be a wolf, but how can we know?
Because i was wrong on Koba i don't want to push a read i have that much and i need to check it with people who show another approach than mine.
Until now Nanook said Rondo is towny and you said the above.
Alison said we wait before we lynch Wilgy's claim
Idk anymore. I will wait as well

this is why my vote is still on rondo tbh. he reads as the scummiest player in the game. Rondo doesn't have a scummy town meta does he? if he does that changes things a bit, but if he doesn't, in a role madness situation this one, I feel like mafia fundamentals are the way to go

You were in Batman with me, people wanted to yeet me day 1 right next to you

Batman? I don't remember wh-


shit okay gimme a sec

[Made]

I'm perfectly fine with syn or scotty dying. I don't particularly want sig dead because syn is voting there

Gonna try sheeping the dead for a bit. This is a good read to keep in mind

If Syn, then not sig (unless t/w/w day 1...which is possible, but maybe unlikely?) Someone will need to check the votes here.

[VOTE: BoSyn] aubergine

[Made]

VC

Spoiler: show

BoKnows
3
11%


Voters: Michelle, DrWilgy, Made

DrWilgy
3
11%


Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Ruri, sig


Epignosis
1
4%


Voters: Urist


MasterRadishes
6
22%


Voters: 112, EnderWiggin, Alison, TonyStarkPrime, tutuu, Epignosis




RondoDimBuckle
2
7%


Voters: falcon45ca, BoKnows

[/vote]


The nice thing about a syn vote here is Wilgy is voting here currently. If Syn is scum, Wilgy looks better

[Made]

VC

Spoiler: show

BoKnows
3
11%


Voters: Michelle, DrWilgy, Made

DrWilgy
3
11%


Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Ruri, sig


Epignosis
1
4%


Voters: Urist


MasterRadishes
6
22%


Voters: 112, EnderWiggin, Alison, TonyStarkPrime, tutuu, Epignosis




RondoDimBuckle
2
7%


Voters: falcon45ca, BoKnows

[/vote]


The nice thing about a syn vote here is Wilgy is voting here currently. If Syn is scum, Wilgy looks better

Went to check the d1 wagon
Syn:

Voters: sig, Poison, Ruri, Made, Scotty, DrWilgy, tutuu, dyachei

If Syn is scum, Sig, wilgy, and tutuu look better-- even after tutuu's weird flip on his slot d2

[RondoDimBuckle]

just when I come on. I read what's fresh. I'm not a good retroactive player, so I'm not even going to try to read back this game.

Reading Bo's iso, this is the link for it

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/searc ... 819&t=2203

Radishes came with a TR based on tone iirc.
Idk what to say, Bo can post such things as mafia as well

The Iso is NAI but if Bo is villager why he has so little pressure on him?

For real. It's been literally just me.

What's your Poe now?

Made
Tutuu
Nook
Falcon
Sig
MR
TSP
BoSyn

I'm that order from least yeetable to most.

Other pieces would come together after and I'm not scum reading anyone else at the moment.

I personally see Nook as town. He hasnt moved his read on me all game. He could have the wool over my eyes but I think his posting has been town as well

if i'm trying to be critical of rondo i can find stuff in this post i don't like

whats wrong with the word personally?

[RondoDimBuckle]

i will now take questions

Tell me please how do you read Rondo and why

closer to neutral than anything but i've been shifting around. i had him as slightly town before i left the thread yesterday and went to sleep. part of me feels that if the town's best guess is rondo we're probably not winning this game. whether that should have any effect on how i read him idk.

to be honest i feel like my heart thinks he's town and that i'm being somewhat peer-pressured into thinking he's wolfier than he actually is to me.

i think what i called abrasiveness in him is usually a wolf trait but i don't think it's wolfy here. not sure i can really elaborate on that, but just that he's been very consistently posting with attitude in every post i've read makes me like him more somehow. like it doesn't feel like an act.

as far as solvey stuff from rondo, i don't really have anything in mind, but i've melded with some posts and insights iirc and he seems to be actually contributing better than others?

like i'm not saying he can't be wolf but i don't understand fully why he's your first choice

I think he is the wolfiest player.
I get your pov too, the wolfiest may not be a wolf, but how can we know?
Because i was wrong on Koba i don't want to push a read i have that much and i need to check it with people who show another approach than mine.
Until now Nanook said Rondo is towny and you said the above.
Alison said we wait before we lynch Wilgy's claim
Idk anymore. I will wait as well

this is why my vote is still on rondo tbh. he reads as the scummiest player in the game. Rondo doesn't have a scummy town meta does he? if he does that changes things a bit, but if he doesn't, in a role madness situation this one, I feel like mafia fundamentals are the way to go

Theres no such thing as a "scummy town meta," that just means you're bad at reading them tbh

But yes he does get misread a fair bit sometimes, particularly by people who have a narrower view of what acceptable town play looks like/snobs

hehehe

[Made]

Iso'd Radishes for his thoughts on Syn. It's JJJ certifiable potential teammates, but no smoking gun.

His recollection of what happened day 1 is interesting tho. The issue is if he's right we're pretty fucked rn

[Made]

I need a townie brain to bounce thoughts off of, this game is such a mindpluck

[112]

Reading Bo's iso, this is the link for it

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/searc ... 819&t=2203

Radishes came with a TR based on tone iirc.
Idk what to say, Bo can post such things as mafia as well

The Iso is NAI but if Bo is villager why he has so little pressure on him?

For real. It's been literally just me.

What's your Poe now?

Made
Tutuu
Nook
Falcon
Sig
MR
TSP
BoSyn

I'm that order from least yeetable to most.

Other pieces would come together after and I'm not scum reading anyone else at the moment.

I personally see Nook as town. He hasnt moved his read on me all game. He could have the wool over my eyes but I think his posting has been town as well

if i'm trying to be critical of rondo i can find stuff in this post i don't like

whats wrong with the word personally?

it shows a lack of confidence in oneself imo

[Made]

To say my thoughts on MR's d1 another way, MR's argument d1 into d2 and d3 is sold reason to not vote syn by wagonomics. He provides two ways the day could of went down one where the town who got on syns wagon stayed there because they weren't in thread at EOD. If syn is scum, then the wagon hopping was bold.

Gonna read alison's thoughts on MR and see where that puts me

[Made]

@112 @EnderWiggin @TonyStarkPrime @tutuu @Epignosis

Who has the hottest take on MR? I'm already isoing Alison for MR takes. If should look at anyone else, who should I iso?
(I'm also isoing MR ofc)

[EnderWiggin]

@112 @EnderWiggin @TonyStarkPrime @tutuu @Epignosis

Who has the hottest take on MR? I'm already isoing Alison for MR takes. If should look at anyone else, who should I iso?
(I'm also isoing MR ofc)

I have a wall.

[112]

@112 @EnderWiggin @TonyStarkPrime @tutuu @Epignosis

Who has the hottest take on MR? I'm already isoing Alison for MR takes. If should look at anyone else, who should I iso?
(I'm also isoing MR ofc)

i have the most experience with him out of anyone here and that's where i'm voting

[RondoDimBuckle]

For real. It's been literally just me.

What's your Poe now?

Made
Tutuu
Nook
Falcon
Sig
MR
TSP
BoSyn

I'm that order from least yeetable to most.

Other pieces would come together after and I'm not scum reading anyone else at the moment.

I personally see Nook as town. He hasnt moved his read on me all game. He could have the wool over my eyes but I think his posting has been town as well

if i'm trying to be critical of rondo i can find stuff in this post i don't like

whats wrong with the word personally?

it shows a lack of confidence in oneself imo

Or it could show an understanding that while drwiggly has a contrary opinion to me I understand his point of view? imo personally. I can go back to being a dick if people prefer that

[Made]

@112 @falcon45ca @BoKnows

Does Koba seem like Aladeen to you?

in what way?

Performative when caught.

haven't read any of their stuff really but i'm pretty sure they're maf just by the forced gibberizing of their posts

this looks pretty bad for 112 tbh

[Michelle]

i will now take questions

Tell me please how do you read Rondo and why

closer to neutral than anything but i've been shifting around. i had him as slightly town before i left the thread yesterday and went to sleep. part of me feels that if the town's best guess is rondo we're probably not winning this game. whether that should have any effect on how i read him idk.

to be honest i feel like my heart thinks he's town and that i'm being somewhat peer-pressured into thinking he's wolfier than he actually is to me.

i think what i called abrasiveness in him is usually a wolf trait but i don't think it's wolfy here. not sure i can really elaborate on that, but just that he's been very consistently posting with attitude in every post i've read makes me like him more somehow. like it doesn't feel like an act.

as far as solvey stuff from rondo, i don't really have anything in mind, but i've melded with some posts and insights iirc and he seems to be actually contributing better than others?

like i'm not saying he can't be wolf but i don't understand fully why he's your first choice

I think he is the wolfiest player.
I get your pov too, the wolfiest may not be a wolf, but how can we know?
Because i was wrong on Koba i don't want to push a read i have that much and i need to check it with people who show another approach than mine.
Until now Nanook said Rondo is towny and you said the above.
Alison said we wait before we lynch Wilgy's claim
Idk anymore. I will wait as well

this is why my vote is still on rondo tbh. he reads as the scummiest player in the game. Rondo doesn't have a scummy town meta does he? if he does that changes things a bit, but if he doesn't, in a role madness situation this one, I feel like mafia fundamentals are the way to go

Theres no such thing as a "scummy town meta," that just means you're bad at reading them tbh

But yes he does get misread a fair bit sometimes, particularly by people who have a narrower view of what acceptable town play looks like/snobs

How much time should one to play with someone to become good at reading them?
Because if you claim you are good at reading Rondo i wish to know how many games you played and what alignaments for both of you

[Michelle]

I think probably wolves are shielding each other in this game and because they are so many is hard to find them because we probably TR/have out of immediate PoE the most of them.

[Made]

112 says based on long time knowledge of playing with MR she scum reads him. but doesn't really deliver on that sight besides giving cheeky zingers (#5126).

im just clueless at whos the mafia lol

...syn? rondo? wilgy? radish? falcon?

MR likely
i haven't read a syn post in days
rondo plausible to probable
falc also likely

in conclusion if i have played with you extensively, you are scum

I also don't like the selfawareness in this post with no change in thoughts here, especially after Koba's flip she was equally confident on. 112 should be more lost right now imo

I went into this looking for a MR scum read but then I thought about it more: The telling thing here may be the read MR has on 112...

Unfortunately, MR claims not to be able to read 112 very well. That said, he gives more specific descriptions of 112 and her scum range, but doesn't land anywhere definite (#817 & #809)

112 harbouring a constant low-key suspicion of me probably a townie point for her tbh.

this complicates things however....Mafia is effing hard.

@112 is there ever a world where your interactions with MR right now are T/T?

@Master Radishes if there ever a world where 112 is just scum here?

[Made]

I think probably wolves are shielding each other in this game and because they are so many is hard to find them because we probably TR/have out of immediate PoE the most of them.

This

[Made]

Something I will also say, and i would if someone else chimed in here, is that this thread state feels very foreign to me.

I don't know if i've ever seen anyone talk about this before, but I feel like certain scum player combinations lead to certain thread states. Like if everything makes sense, but we haven't chopped a wolf, Alison is scum. If town is focused on a very secure poe, but hasn't hit anyone yet, Mac is scum.

This thread is chaos. Who is scum in successful chaos?

[Made]

This game is so fucking odd. what is off about this game? Something is off and I can't put my finger on it.

We have no towncore maybe? That is for sure part of it. I've never been a player to run that play, that's always been a JJJ/Sloonei kinda thing...this game is very lacking in trust.

[112]

112 says based on long time knowledge of playing with MR she scum reads him. but doesn't really deliver on that sight besides giving cheeky zingers (#5126).

im just clueless at whos the mafia lol

...syn? rondo? wilgy? radish? falcon?

MR likely
i haven't read a syn post in days
rondo plausible to probable
falc also likely

in conclusion if i have played with you extensively, you are scum

I also don't like the selfawareness in this post with no change in thoughts here, especially after Koba's flip she was equally confident on. 112 should be more lost right now imo

I went into this looking for a MR scum read but then I thought about it more: The telling thing here may be the read MR has on 112...

Unfortunately, MR claims not to be able to read 112 very well. That said, he gives more specific descriptions of 112 and her scum range, but doesn't land anywhere definite (#817 & #809)

112 harbouring a constant low-key suspicion of me probably a townie point for her tbh.

this complicates things however....Mafia is effing hard.

@112 is there ever a world where your interactions with MR right now are T/T?

@Master Radishes if there ever a world where 112 is just scum here?

i townread koba before their death. you're quoting earlier stuff and i am never wrong on my reads.

yes there is a world where we're t/t

[Made]

112 says based on long time knowledge of playing with MR she scum reads him. but doesn't really deliver on that sight besides giving cheeky zingers (#5126).

im just clueless at whos the mafia lol

...syn? rondo? wilgy? radish? falcon?

MR likely
i haven't read a syn post in days
rondo plausible to probable
falc also likely

in conclusion if i have played with you extensively, you are scum

I also don't like the selfawareness in this post with no change in thoughts here, especially after Koba's flip she was equally confident on. 112 should be more lost right now imo

I went into this looking for a MR scum read but then I thought about it more: The telling thing here may be the read MR has on 112...

Unfortunately, MR claims not to be able to read 112 very well. That said, he gives more specific descriptions of 112 and her scum range, but doesn't land anywhere definite (#817 & #809)

112 harbouring a constant low-key suspicion of me probably a townie point for her tbh.

this complicates things however....Mafia is effing hard.

@112 is there ever a world where your interactions with MR right now are T/T?

@Master Radishes if there ever a world where 112 is just scum here?

i townread koba before their death. you're quoting earlier stuff and i am never wrong on my reads.

yes there is a world where we're t/t

what changed your mind?

[Made]

cuz I fliped the other direction, and Ik i'm town.

[EnderWiggin]

Something I will also say, and i would if someone else chimed in here, is that this thread state feels very foreign to me.

I don't know if i've ever seen anyone talk about this before, but I feel like certain scum player combinations lead to certain thread states. Like if everything makes sense, but we haven't chopped a wolf, Alison is scum. If town is focused on a very secure poe, but hasn't hit anyone yet, Mac is scum.

This thread is chaos. Who is scum in successful chaos?

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

[112]

@112 @falcon45ca @BoKnows

Does Koba seem like Aladeen to you?

in what way?

Performative when caught.

haven't read any of their stuff really but i'm pretty sure they're maf just by the forced gibberizing of their posts

this looks pretty bad for 112 tbh

i thought koba was pretending to be drunk here btw. i think if you scroll up on that page there's a post or a post in a quote suggesting koba was claiming to be 'hammered' or, in my interpretation, drunk. the post i said was gibberized looked like fake drunk texting, but i think koba was just in a rush or something and i started townreading them after their explanation.

[112]

112 says based on long time knowledge of playing with MR she scum reads him. but doesn't really deliver on that sight besides giving cheeky zingers (#5126).

im just clueless at whos the mafia lol

...syn? rondo? wilgy? radish? falcon?

MR likely
i haven't read a syn post in days
rondo plausible to probable
falc also likely

in conclusion if i have played with you extensively, you are scum

I also don't like the selfawareness in this post with no change in thoughts here, especially after Koba's flip she was equally confident on. 112 should be more lost right now imo

I went into this looking for a MR scum read but then I thought about it more: The telling thing here may be the read MR has on 112...

Unfortunately, MR claims not to be able to read 112 very well. That said, he gives more specific descriptions of 112 and her scum range, but doesn't land anywhere definite (#817 & #809)

112 harbouring a constant low-key suspicion of me probably a townie point for her tbh.

this complicates things however....Mafia is effing hard.

@112 is there ever a world where your interactions with MR right now are T/T?

@Master Radishes if there ever a world where 112 is just scum here?

i townread koba before their death. you're quoting earlier stuff and i am never wrong on my reads.

yes there is a world where we're t/t

what changed your mind?

pretty sure it was gut + towny defences/AtE + i liked their tone

[tutuu]

@tutuu on a scale of 1 to lynch, how do you feel about BoSyn at this current time on this, the third day of witchery?

Chop

[Made]

@tutuu on a scale of 1 to lynch, how do you feel about BoSyn at this current time on this, the third day of witchery?

Chop

would you chop rondo?

[112]

are BK and syn claiming mason?

[tutuu]

But looking through Kuri’s ISO (who so kindly provided a bevy of VCs at certain times), knowing what we know about Made and Koba…

Tutuu has had her hand in the cookie jar often. And she’s slick about it too. Admitting when she’s wrong, recklessly confident when she’s right.
You need to look at her in the whole picture, because she just talks too damn much. Townread by many. Koba was a bit detractor, and tutuu found reasons to bury them into the ground. Once Koba was dead and buried, tutuu went to her bunker seemingly humbled and apologetic.

But we have a heavy manipulator running around starting trains and changing reads throughout these days. Tutuu has her hands in all these mislynches. And one might think: ‘well, no town knows everything’. That’s true, Inspector Clueso. But more importantly, mafia know most things, and tutuu has been a big reason for these last couple mislynches. At some point, we must consider that the big driver was actually an escaped convict trying to get over the border of Mexico but we were all enjoying the drive that we didn’t notice, and one day we’ll all wake up in Tijuana and have to start new lives working for the cartel or we’ll never see our children ever again.

I don’t want to be a passenger on that bus.

I want to be

The driver

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

"Tutuu being a big part in the last couple of mischops"

Bruh i townread dyachei and voted syn d1

[EnderWiggin]

are BK and syn claiming mason?

BK and Syn are the same person.

BK replaced Syn.

[tutuu]

@tutuu on a scale of 1 to lynch, how do you feel about BoSyn at this current time on this, the third day of witchery?

Chop

would you chop rondo?

Mechanically bad i think

[Made]

are BK and syn claiming mason?

[tutuu]

i will now take questions

Did u visit me last night?

[tutuu]

@tutuu do you still think day 1 was town vs town?

I dont know. I think we need to chop bo and. Find iut

[Made]

@tutuu do you still think day 1 was town vs town?

I dont know. I think we need to chop bo and. Find iut

Let's play this out.
So we find out that Syn was in fact town, where does that get us?

IF syn was scum, where does that get us?

(no snark, my brain is empty rn, no thoughts and don't have answer to these question)

[tutuu]

@tutuu do you still think day 1 was town vs town?

I dont know. I think we need to chop bo and. Find iut

Let's play this out.
So we find out that Syn was in fact town, where does that get us?

IF syn was scum, where does that get us?

(no snark, my brain is empty rn, no thoughts and don't have answer to these question)

Too much effort for me rn fam

[Made]

@tutuu do you still think day 1 was town vs town?

I dont know. I think we need to chop bo and. Find iut

Let's play this out.
So we find out that Syn was in fact town, where does that get us?

IF syn was scum, where does that get us?

(no snark, my brain is empty rn, no thoughts and don't have answer to these question)

Too much effort for me rn fam

i mean i don't need you to solve the game, but just one step further. if it's syn, whoelse is it and why?

[tutuu]

@tutuu do you still think day 1 was town vs town?

I dont know. I think we need to chop bo and. Find iut

Let's play this out.
So we find out that Syn was in fact town, where does that get us?

IF syn was scum, where does that get us?

(no snark, my brain is empty rn, no thoughts and don't have answer to these question)

Too much effort for me rn fam

i mean i don't need you to solve the game, but just one step further. if it's syn, whoelse is it and why?

I just woke up (no snark, my brain is empty rn, no thoughts and don't have answer to these question)

[RondoDimBuckle]

Something I will also say, and i would if someone else chimed in here, is that this thread state feels very foreign to me.

I don't know if i've ever seen anyone talk about this before, but I feel like certain scum player combinations lead to certain thread states. Like if everything makes sense, but we haven't chopped a wolf, Alison is scum. If town is focused on a very secure poe, but hasn't hit anyone yet, Mac is scum.

This thread is chaos. Who is scum in successful chaos?

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

HAHAHAAH I love the respect vote. I really do. Honestly I can not fault you for this vote in a conventional sense. However I have a cop calling me non threat. Sub optimal vote as Alison would say.

[Made]

Something I will also say, and i would if someone else chimed in here, is that this thread state feels very foreign to me.

I don't know if i've ever seen anyone talk about this before, but I feel like certain scum player combinations lead to certain thread states. Like if everything makes sense, but we haven't chopped a wolf, Alison is scum. If town is focused on a very secure poe, but hasn't hit anyone yet, Mac is scum.

This thread is chaos. Who is scum in successful chaos?

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

HAHAHAAH I love the respect vote. I really do. Honestly I can not fault you for this vote in a conventional sense. However I have a cop calling me non threat. Sub optimal vote as Alison would say.

I see rondo here, but my continuation of that thought is
[VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

There will be no questions, I should not be awake right now

[tutuu]

@BoKnows did u visit me last night pls this is urgent

[112]

i will now take questions

Did u visit me last night?

no

[112]

when did made become obvtown?

[tutuu]

when did made become obvtown?

We townread his tree stump claim, mans thought he was unkillable and immortal