Smilies Mafia - GAME END

[Gavial]

I should've specified that I can choose to make myself untargettable every night but yeah that's it.

Untargetable (-) Reflect
2 different things.

Slight mis-wording. Like I said. Not gonna argue word differences, yes they're different in 1 way, but in a certain way they're the same.

You're not gonna be able to catch me based on a miss-use of a word. That's rather silly.

Yeah that’s why I wanted you to do it word from word and your response is legitimate or at least feels that way “target themselves” part of it felt like why you could use both “reflect” and “untargetable” in the same context.

[Gavial]

Actually.
@Lime Coke
Can I convince you to vote Ender here?
I think if It’s Jack and Ender and not Jack and TSP the best time to hit Ender is now!

[Lime Coke]

Sure why not.

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

[Gavial]

Also Ender sorta reminded me of how I play scum from what he was doing day 3 of trying to get confirmed via a JK that doesn’t even confirm him.

As scum you wanna try to get as much town credit as possible.
Or at least that’s how I play.

[Gavial]

Like if there was only 1 scum left, yeah. I’d say Ender would be town. But that isn’t the case. There is 2 and the other can perform attack. The only world where Ender is scum is with Jack because Ender never kills Alison over Jack.

[Gavial]

Ill keep pondering this, but If dyson is telling truth, we’ve solved the game, because there’s no point of a wolf dyson listing those names, because it only buys him so much time before we realize he’s lying.

Confirmed Town:
-Dyson
-Scotty
-Rondo
-Ilario

Presumed town:
-jack
-Ender

POE:
-Gavial
-falcon
-TSP

Yeh. Suppose Dyson is telling the truth and no further kills are blocked.

Yeet Dyson
Wolves kill Scott
Yeet Falcon
Wolves kill Rondo
Yeet Gavial
Wolves kill Ilario

That’s final 3 of Jack/Ender/Tony (maybe not Tony).

That’s not like an impossible scenario for the wolves but it is one where the wolves have to kill a mechanically confirmed player 3 nights in a row.

For Dyson to be telling the truth, I’ve been pocketed by a wolf who specifically isn’t Ilario, Scotty or Rondo and Martin put that ability in this game. Looking at 2 of Falcon, Gavil, Tony, Ender. And Falcon is kinda antialigned with Tony and Gavil.

For Dyson to be lying, Dyson just has to be lying.

Look at this. Jack even puts both Ender AND Tony in his F3 and says (maybe not Tony)

One of Ender/Tony he’s trying to associate himself with via his scum flip and the other is his buddy.

@ilario
@falcon45ca
@RondoDimBuckle

[Gavial]

We vote Ender here to sort this out.

[TonyStarkPrime]

what's going on

[TonyStarkPrime]

God...dammit I don't wanna vote you.

I mean…don’t you? It sounds like you want to.

I don't I think you're actually town this game. My dumbass if wavering on my own reads and ideas. I was kinda wavering on Scotty even if I was saying he was my townread because Alison had him as her pet scumread and I thought something was wrong with what I was doing. Then I wavered on letting Dyson self resolve with 3 fucking inno's because of the rest of the game. Like I'm at a cross roads of either actually listening to my own reads or letting others take the wheel.

Why do you think I’m not town?

Who are you considering letting take over?

Shrugs

Anyone I guess? I'm listening to everyone else, if you asked me who I wouldn't have an actual answer because I'm so fogged up with this game.

The only reason I think you're not town is the jailkeep+no night kill N2. That's it. But I can easily see you being a night kill target based on the fact that you were widely townread at the end of Day 2.

Here’s my concern.

Gav and Falcon suspect me. TSP might kinda sorta suspect me.

I’m reading you saying you think I’m not town as you winding up to try to misyeet me.

I’m reading you saying you’re considering letting someone else take the wheel (after asking Gav if he’d bet the game on his current proposed wolfteam, which includes me) as also gearing up to try to misyeet me.

So with that being my concern, you answer here is like….concerning.

Luckily, I’m an unyeetable player.

tbh i think if gav flips wolf we have to kill you because of like who gav is but i wouldn't consider it outside of that

[TonyStarkPrime]

Go check out LC's ISO, and word search Seanzie.



It's amazing how he hit Maf, yet never really gives a reason for his read.

fwiw he was cw at eod and was also chronically sheeping people (and yelling at tsp)

[TonyStarkPrime]

Unless Jack’s a Third Party Arsonist.

i'm going to become the joker

[TonyStarkPrime]

gav why do you think jack is a wolf and is it because he's your wolf partner because like

[Lime Coke]

Go check out LC's ISO, and word search Seanzie.



It's amazing how he hit Maf, yet never really gives a reason for his read.

fwiw he was cw at eod and was also chronically sheeping people (and yelling at tsp)

Sheeping people? Bullshit, I literally called Seanzie wolf first.

[TonyStarkPrime]

see that's the yelling at tsp part

[Lime Coke]

There's 1 in at least TSP/Falcon. Like there's literally two leaps in logic in their reasoning to wolfread me.

Like literally it's based off of my Day 1, which was where I got Sean voted out. Not the rest of my game where it's actually shit. Like what are y'all doing?

[TonyStarkPrime]

like you called seanzie a wolf and then voted falcon because jack did and only got off after you were CW

[Lime Coke]

see that's the yelling at tsp part

I'm actually calm right now. You'll know when I'm yelling at you.

[TonyStarkPrime]

There's 1 in at least TSP/Falcon. Like there's literally two leaps in logic in their reasoning to wolfread me.

Like literally it's based off of my Day 1, which was where I got Sean voted out. Not the rest of my game where it's actually shit. Like what are y'all doing?

Lime can you like read your EOD 1 without whatever glasses you have on and just try to see it this way

[TonyStarkPrime]

like "hmm i think sean is a wolf, oh, sean is town, guess i'll sheep you on this lhf, ok I'll vote sean for self pres" is the progression I'm seeing here and self-pres is nai but I think your misrepesentation of the whole thing is ... probably towny? but like it feels wolfy idk

[Lime Coke]

like you called seanzie a wolf and then voted falcon because jack did and only got off after you were CW

Ilario and Jack both voted him. I followed because I fucked up on a thread state read. That's literally it.

[TonyStarkPrime]

yeah but you get why that's like still concerning to me

[TonyStarkPrime]

lime right now you're hovering in my third poe slot and I'm trying to see what I'm missing tbh because I'm reasonably sure ender/jack/lime is a losing poe even if gav is yelling otherwise and I need to figure out what to do about it

[Lime Coke]

There's 1 in at least TSP/Falcon. Like there's literally two leaps in logic in their reasoning to wolfread me.

Like literally it's based off of my Day 1, which was where I got Sean voted out. Not the rest of my game where it's actually shit. Like what are y'all doing?

Lime can you like read your EOD 1 without whatever glasses you have on and just try to see it this way

Fuck no, read my Day 1 as an entirety. I called out Sean wolf. I voted out Sean.

Like you're LITERALLY using the best part of my game to try to wolfcase me. What are you doing?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'm not trying to wolfcase you, that was scotty. i don't wolf case people

[Lime Coke]

Like I actually got a wolf voted off, what have you done this game?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'm not even currently trying to tilt you because somethin somethin teamwork

[TonyStarkPrime]

Like I actually got a wolf voted off, what have you done this game?

you voted for a wolf that's a very different thing

[Lime Coke]

Oddly enough, I stopped trying, and things went to hell for town. Imagine that.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Like day 1 from my point of view was I stopped a wolf mdf on what i thought was a reasonably obviously townie and therefore /i/ would like the credit but at least I can understand how others might see it differently

[TonyStarkPrime]

Oddly enough, I stopped trying, and things went to hell for town. Imagine that.

trying is a scourge

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

The discrediting is wolfy. This man is mafia.

[Lime Coke]

Either yeet me or yeet TSP. Could care less.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'm not discrediting you i'm trying to get you to stop for just a second and think about the game more interestingly and maybe you'd also think that given my precarious position if i were a wolf I'd be avoiding needling you for four days

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

[Lime Coke]

I'm not discrediting you i'm trying to get you to stop for just a second and think about the game more interestingly and maybe you'd also think that given my precarious position if i were a wolf I'd be avoiding needling you for four days

I don't get why you go after my Day 1 though and not...the fact that I've done next to nothing Days 2 to 4. Like literally makes no sense.

[Lime Coke]

Like don't even take my EOD or what I did with Sean into the thought process. I was probably the most active player on Day 1 and looked at what I was doing, I was pretty deep into solving the game and getting reads, which was why I was actually annoyed that I was a counter wagon in general and went after you, Rondo, and Nanook the next day.

Despite being the most active and was solving a ton, and then I got voted all because "He didn't act pissed off." Fuck that.

[Gavial]

gav why do you think jack is a wolf and is it because he's your wolf partner because like

His day 1.

[Gavial]

There's 1 in at least TSP/Falcon. Like there's literally two leaps in logic in their reasoning to wolfread me.

Like literally it's based off of my Day 1, which was where I got Sean voted out. Not the rest of my game where it's actually shit. Like what are y'all doing?

Not true.
I’ve played with a town that started poking themselves with glitter after the day 1 scum yeet. Kinda like this game but it’s not too late to change that!

Pretty much I had a game where I said that how 3 players interacted with each other are TvTvT.
What did town do when one of them died at night? Yeet 2 town members.
Then I was left in F4 with the option of 2 players to be scum when the game could have already been locked and won.
So it was down to a 50/50 chance and I chose wrong.
Wasn’t my fault we lost, it was their fault for refusing to listen.

[Gavial]

Although unlike this game I was one of the ones responsible for the day 1 scum yeet.

[Lime Coke]

Gavival really believing in this 2/2 is the towniest thing about him. Really hoping he's right on this.

[Gavial]

lime right now you're hovering in my third poe slot and I'm trying to see what I'm missing tbh because I'm reasonably sure ender/jack/lime is a losing poe even if gav is yelling otherwise and I need to figure out what to do about it

Dude. I can confirm this slot. Trust me Lime Coke can be cleared.
If your town then Ender is a Red.
Relax I can carry you.

[Gavial]

Like I actually got a wolf voted off, what have you done this game?

you voted for a wolf that's a very different thing

Well here’s the thing?
Who got Sean voted off?
Alison started pushing Sean but if you look never ended their vote on them.
But yet Alison died over Lime or Jack.

[Gavial]

Either yeet me or yeet TSP. Could care less.

No. Ender or TSP.
Preferably Ender because TSP has the will power to vote there.

[Lime Coke]

Like I actually got a wolf voted off, what have you done this game?

you voted for a wolf that's a very different thing

Well here’s the thing?
Who got Sean voted off?
Alison started pushing Sean but if you look never ended their vote on them.
But yet Alison died over Lime or Jack.

Trust me I'm confused on this as well, and again was why I wasn't actually confident on a few certain reads, like my Scotty townread for example. Like did Alison have a correct scumread? What was the reasoning?

[Gavial]

Well the only thing that doesn’t make sense though is why would BOTH scum Buss Sean?
Then again I heard from Rondo that Ender usually busses.
But Jack voting with their scum buddy on another??

[Gavial]

Ima gonna say it was an attempt for them to gain town credit that didn’t work.

[falcon45ca]

lime right now you're hovering in my third poe slot and I'm trying to see what I'm missing tbh because I'm reasonably sure ender/jack/lime is a losing poe even if gav is yelling otherwise and I need to figure out what to do about it

Dude. I can confirm this slot. Trust me Lime Coke can be cleared.
If your town then Ender is a Red.
Relax I can carry you.

Um, how can you confirm slots? Neighbourizer and mailman?


What am I missing?

[Gavial]

lime right now you're hovering in my third poe slot and I'm trying to see what I'm missing tbh because I'm reasonably sure ender/jack/lime is a losing poe even if gav is yelling otherwise and I need to figure out what to do about it

Dude. I can confirm this slot. Trust me Lime Coke can be cleared.
If your town then Ender is a Red.
Relax I can carry you.

Um, how can you confirm slots? Neighbourizer and mailman?


What am I missing?

Please read my interact with Lime Coke.

[Gavial]

If so, why did you use the term “Reflect”?

I misworded, should be "reflect." Was thinking of the same concept.

?
Ok Um can you plz give me exactly what your ability states.
Word for word please.

Not making it totally word for word but I'll paraphrase the wording.

I can choose to make it so that the player that targets me with a night action, end up targetting themselves.
Does not work on abilities that target multiple players.

I have to use twice before the end of Night 4 or else I die.

Ok thanks cool! That works!

Let’s see tonight if you Legit or not!

@falcon45ca

[Gavial]

[v]TonyStarkPrime[/v]

Serious vote.

smh

I think you tend to give less excuses when you're town, you just vanish.

Hmm looking back at this…