The Witcher Mafia [Game Over]

[Epignosis]

@Epignosis whats ur win condition?

I need certain people dead before I die. I'm not saying who.

Consider me a minor nuisance to both sides. I killed the protector who threatened me and then served up Master Radishes on a platter. That makes me even with both sides.

Poor Wilgy just had bad luck.

I mean, that equity is town favored?

Could you rephrase what you mean?

[tutuu]

"Did you really believe that I just needed to claim to bag a free win?"

[RondoDimBuckle]

game of champions 2020 taught me to show no mercy to independents

so u dug ur own grave epi

but i also wanna kill wilgy. let me think. why didnt mafia poison wilgy

Well if his check doesn't differentiate between 3p and town then poisoner is probably the 3p

i poisoned bo using the power of a wish. 112's flavor gives wishes. 112 was the poison-giver that gave poison attacks to ppl, there's no actual poisoner i believe

Interesting that 112 isnt around to confirm that

[tutuu]

Fun fact, dunia and Epi double checked with me whether I read my role card correctly because they thought I was under the impression I was benign.

Spoiler: show

dunia — 02/09/2021
i just wanted to make sure
A/I/R — 02/09/2021
yes?
dunia — 02/09/2021
you know that you win alone?
A/I/R — 02/09/2021
yes
dunia — 02/09/2021
ok!
A/I/R — 02/09/2021
I'm going to tell them I'll side with town
dunia — 02/09/2021
me and epi just wondered
A/I/R — 02/09/2021
and then they'll let me fulfil my win condition
and then I'll win alone and everyone else loses
it'll be great
unless I die of course

Protip: If someone in an Epi designed mafia game says "Guys I just gotta xyz leave me alone so I can get a free win," where claiming is legal, it's a lie.

I saw what Alison did and could not believe that was tolerated.

Protip: If someone in an Jpic designed mafia game says "Guys I just gotta xyz leave me alone so I can get a free win," where claiming is legal, it's a lie.

I saw what Epignosis did and could not believe that was tolerated.

[Epignosis]

oooh nah nah let me quote some epi posts from goc 2020 this is gonna be funny af

You act like I'm not aware of what I said.

[tutuu]

game of champions 2020 taught me to show no mercy to independents

so u dug ur own grave epi

but i also wanna kill wilgy. let me think. why didnt mafia poison wilgy

Well if his check doesn't differentiate between 3p and town then poisoner is probably the 3p

i poisoned bo using the power of a wish. 112's flavor gives wishes. 112 was the poison-giver that gave poison attacks to ppl, there's no actual poisoner i believe

Interesting that 112 isnt around to confirm that

luckily im here to link u the wikipedia page and show u the wish flavor, i talked about this in my opening posts this day

Gaunter O’Dimm

https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Gaunter_O%27Dimm

control + f "wish"

"In brief, I give folk what they ask for. You might say I simply grant their wishes."

"The two later reunited at O'Dimm's rendezvous point at the crossroads of Yantra at midnight. There, O'Dimm contracted Geralt into helping him finish up a different contract: to grant three wishes to the immortal Olgierd, telling him once the wishes have been granted he will free Geralt of his pact."

theres 17 results of the word wish

[tutuu]

oooh nah nah let me quote some epi posts from goc 2020 this is gonna be funny af

You act like I'm not aware of what I said.

Guys I just gotta xyz leave me alone so I can get a free win

[Epignosis]

Fun fact, dunia and Epi double checked with me whether I read my role card correctly because they thought I was under the impression I was benign.

Spoiler: show

dunia — 02/09/2021
i just wanted to make sure
A/I/R — 02/09/2021
yes?
dunia — 02/09/2021
you know that you win alone?
A/I/R — 02/09/2021
yes
dunia — 02/09/2021
ok!
A/I/R — 02/09/2021
I'm going to tell them I'll side with town
dunia — 02/09/2021
me and epi just wondered
A/I/R — 02/09/2021
and then they'll let me fulfil my win condition
and then I'll win alone and everyone else loses
it'll be great
unless I die of course

Protip: If someone in an Epi designed mafia game says "Guys I just gotta xyz leave me alone so I can get a free win," where claiming is legal, it's a lie.

I saw what Alison did and could not believe that was tolerated.

Protip: If someone in an Jpic designed mafia game says "Guys I just gotta xyz leave me alone so I can get a free win," where claiming is legal, it's a lie.

I saw what Epignosis did and could not believe that was tolerated.

Number one, I'm not JPIC. I'm sure we design games differently.

Number two, I don't have the same role as Alison. I'm not offering you shit for your soul. In my game, civilians were willingly making deals with the devil. That's what you did when you accepted the genie's offer.

So for some reason, accepting wishes from one third party is okay with you. Apparently you never learned your lesson.

I'm not that role. I'm a completely different role.

I'm a role that is not offering shit except a vote against those I think are mafia and hoping I kill the people I need gone before I go.

[Epignosis]

This is fun.

I kill a civilian = Epi must be good.

I kill a mafia = Epi must needs to go.

Wilgy calls me good = Epi must be good.

I call bullshit on Wilgy (for why? What purpose?) = Epi needs to go.

I'm happy with my play here. If I lose because mafia are running out of options, I'll consider that a personal victory.

[tutuu]

just to clarify i wasnt given a choice, i had to choose one of the wishes or it woulda been randed. idk how that role works we'll see l8r

but ye. im still laughing man lmaoooo. aint no way im letting a 3p claim live. u could try to appeal to emotion all u want about how u never won a game and how u just helping the town, ion give a FUCK boyeh. u gonn die and it will feel good son

[Epignosis]

just to clarify i wasnt given a choice, i had to choose one of the wishes or it woulda been randed. idk how that role works we'll see l8r

but ye. im still laughing man lmaoooo. aint no way im letting a 3p claim live. u could try to appeal to emotion all u want about how u never won a game and how u just helping the town, ion give a FUCK boyeh. u gonn die and it will feel good son

[tutuu]

awww cutiepie patpat

[RondoDimBuckle]

Despite all this fantastic new information, I still think tutuu is scum

yeah googling a wiki is a lot of effort to put into the game

[tutuu]

Despite all this fantastic new information, I still think tutuu is scum

yeah googling a wiki is a lot of effort to put into the game

yall lazy asses smh

[Epignosis]

@Epignosis whats ur win condition?

I need certain people dead before I die. I'm not saying who.

Consider me a minor nuisance to both sides. I killed the protector who threatened me and then served up Master Radishes on a platter. That makes me even with both sides.

Poor Wilgy just had bad luck.

I mean, that equity is town favored?

Could you rephrase what you mean?

I'll try to answer your question based on how I interpreted it.

I hurt both sides somewhat but don't stop either from achieving their win conditions. My present stance is to kill mafia because that is more fun for me. I think Wilgy is the next one and tutuu is doing everything short of grabbing the kitchen sink to save him. Nanook has tried to be in my ass all this time, but nah. tutuu is also having a field day with what I said about a specific independent I designed as though one independent represents all independents (a, ahem ahem... Strawman!). We know that's false. tutuu is proceeding with it gleefully anyway without giving any thought to what I'm saying (likewise Nanook).

My view is that the mafia is running out of options and I'm their best target. Don't give them that.

[tutuu]

i aint defending wilgy fam he next

[Epignosis]

Consider this:

I know firsthand what a lot of people think of outed third parties.

I know what I said about the third party I created in the GoC tutuu alluded to.

What's my motive for outing myself? How do I win?

Neither Nanook or tutuu accused me of being mafia.

So the only thing they can possibly be accusing me of is being foolish.

And boy oh boy, I'm not foolish.

[Epignosis]

i aint defending wilgy fam he next

No, he's first.

Fam.

[RondoDimBuckle]

what misinformation bro this man on crack

i defended syn then i poisoned him. so im both right and wrong there at the same time

i was wrong on koba and (probably) made to push them d2

thats 2 wrong reads but u jus gonna ignore all my correct reads and call that grasping at straws?

...

could you outline all these "Correct" reads?

on day 2 which is the context of that convo - i was right on dyachei kza macdougall (before he revealed ic) scotty tedxtr. i havent made no wrong reads at that point except waffling on axehole

so just town being town, which is what a wolf would know

[tutuu]

what misinformation bro this man on crack

i defended syn then i poisoned him. so im both right and wrong there at the same time

i was wrong on koba and (probably) made to push them d2

thats 2 wrong reads but u jus gonna ignore all my correct reads and call that grasping at straws?

...

could you outline all these "Correct" reads?

on day 2 which is the context of that convo - i was right on dyachei kza macdougall (before he revealed ic) scotty tedxtr. i havent made no wrong reads at that point except waffling on axehole

so just town being town, which is what a wolf would know

okay sure i dont mind being called scum just dont call me bad town lol

[RondoDimBuckle]

we dont know how jpic designed the game tho bro epi

like u and wilgy could both be telling the truth

jpic could have made it so wilgy receives not a threat to ur role

I parse. It is my profession and my nature.

Wilgy's exact words were "Epi is innocent."

While I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition (beyond needing some of them dead), I DO need some of them dead.

I don't think that makes me innocent.

I believe others said Wilgy had a "green peek" on me.

That's obviously false and did Wilgy dispute that verbiage?

I don't believe so until Wilgy clarified his claim that he could choose "threat or not a threat" (which isn't the same thing as "innocent").

I doubt the host would call me "not a threat."

I think Wilgy gambled and lost.

Ergo, Wilgy is mafia and should die.

It's that easy.

I agree with this , I would like people to keep an open mind on me being town

[VOTE: wiggly ] aubergine

[tutuu]

i aint defending wilgy fam he next

No, he's first.

Fam.

what if he's the last person on ur bounty hunt list and who knows what happens when u achieve ur wincon. why should town take the risk brah?

[Epignosis]

i aint defending wilgy fam he next

No, he's first.

Fam.

what if he's the last person on ur bounty hunt list and who knows what happens when u achieve ur wincon. why should town take the risk brah?

I caught him in a lie and you're defending him with pretzel logic.

Panties.

[RondoDimBuckle]

@Epignosis whats ur win condition?

I need certain people dead before I die. I'm not saying who.

Consider me a minor nuisance to both sides. I killed the protector who threatened me and then served up Master Radishes on a platter. That makes me even with both sides.

Poor Wilgy just had bad luck.

I mean, that equity is town favored?

Could you rephrase what you mean?

if you are 3p, you kill 1 town to 1 mafia, that is fine for me

[RondoDimBuckle]

game of champions 2020 taught me to show no mercy to independents

so u dug ur own grave epi

but i also wanna kill wilgy. let me think. why didnt mafia poison wilgy

Well if his check doesn't differentiate between 3p and town then poisoner is probably the 3p

i poisoned bo using the power of a wish. 112's flavor gives wishes. 112 was the poison-giver that gave poison attacks to ppl, there's no actual poisoner i believe

Interesting that 112 isnt around to confirm that

luckily im here to link u the wikipedia page and show u the wish flavor, i talked about this in my opening posts this day

Gaunter O’Dimm

https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Gaunter_O%27Dimm

control + f "wish"

"In brief, I give folk what they ask for. You might say I simply grant their wishes."

"The two later reunited at O'Dimm's rendezvous point at the crossroads of Yantra at midnight. There, O'Dimm contracted Geralt into helping him finish up a different contract: to grant three wishes to the immortal Olgierd, telling him once the wishes have been granted he will free Geralt of his pact."

theres 17 results of the word wish

that still doesnt change the fact that 112 isnt here its just mech talk

[Epignosis]

@Epignosis whats ur win condition?

I need certain people dead before I die. I'm not saying who.

Consider me a minor nuisance to both sides. I killed the protector who threatened me and then served up Master Radishes on a platter. That makes me even with both sides.

Poor Wilgy just had bad luck.

I mean, that equity is town favored?

Could you rephrase what you mean?

if you are 3p, you kill 1 town to 1 mafia, that is fine for me

I think I see what you mean. I responded to you above in detail based on what I thought you meant.

[Epignosis]

@tutuu
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Who are the mafia?

Gosh that must be a difficult thing to talk about right now.

[tutuu]

@tutuu
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Who are the mafia?

Gosh that must be a difficult thing to talk about right now.

wilgy and rondo and/or falcon

or tsp sig and one of the aforementioned

[RondoDimBuckle]

@Epignosis whats ur win condition?

I need certain people dead before I die. I'm not saying who.

Consider me a minor nuisance to both sides. I killed the protector who threatened me and then served up Master Radishes on a platter. That makes me even with both sides.

Poor Wilgy just had bad luck.

I mean, that equity is town favored?

Could you rephrase what you mean?

if you are 3p, you kill 1 town to 1 mafia, that is fine for me

I think I see what you mean. I responded to you above in detail based on what I thought you meant.

specifically, 1 town is worth 1 wolf, every time I will take that deal and if your list is balanced 1 town to 1 wolf to 1 3p as I assume it would be. Letting you reach win con is fine for town because a wolf is worth 3 town. So even if its 2 town for 1 wolf I am ok with this trade. As long as wolves go first.

[Epignosis]

Ah, awesome. Wilgy IS mafia.

[tutuu]

no i dont think its tsp sig

thats only if they're mafia lovers

if we have multiple 3p roles that can kill i think the mafia team is smaller than normal distribution

it dont make sense to give a small mafia team lovers role

[RondoDimBuckle]

@tutuu
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Who are the mafia?

Gosh that must be a difficult thing to talk about right now.

wilgy and rondo and/or falcon

or tsp sig and one of the aforementioned

see thats funny you just called me scum for pointing out that falcon could be scum for naked voting me and sheeping made? this doesnt follow your logic

[tutuu]

@Epignosis whats ur win condition?

I need certain people dead before I die. I'm not saying who.

Consider me a minor nuisance to both sides. I killed the protector who threatened me and then served up Master Radishes on a platter. That makes me even with both sides.

Poor Wilgy just had bad luck.

I mean, that equity is town favored?

Could you rephrase what you mean?

if you are 3p, you kill 1 town to 1 mafia, that is fine for me

I think I see what you mean. I responded to you above in detail based on what I thought you meant.

specifically, 1 town is worth 1 wolf, every time I will take that deal and if your list is balanced 1 town to 1 wolf to 1 3p as I assume it would be. Letting you reach win con is fine for town because a wolf is worth 3 town. So even if its 2 town for 1 wolf I am ok with this trade. As long as wolves go first.

we dont know that he has equal amount of town and wolves in his bounty list doe

he said he "evened up the platter or w/e" as a figure of speech. he shot axehole and sussed radish. he made no claim/elaboration on his execution targets

[Epignosis]

@tutuu
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Who are the mafia?

Gosh that must be a difficult thing to talk about right now.

wilgy and rondo and/or falcon

or tsp sig and one of the aforementioned

Ah, awesome. Wilgy IS mafia.

And right after you said this too:

That's obviously false and did Wilgy dispute that verbiage?

he didnt and whats wrong with that? people use common / short words sometimes. wilgy also aint a man of many words

I doubt the host would call me "not a threat."

u also doubted how i woulda done some things in my magic the gathering game and the result was the opposite of u expectation, i think a healthy dose of skepticism is good when trynna guess how other hosts operate

Wilgy actually has said that his checks are threat/not a threat, and that he isn't told what 3p checks as, so

Theres also an ic and a modified parity cop, thats a lot of investigative power. Especially with the amount of protection evident.

like yea thats what im saying, im trynna tell epi that wilgy isnt necessarily mafia for his claim

[tutuu]

@tutuu
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Who are the mafia?

Gosh that must be a difficult thing to talk about right now.

wilgy and rondo and/or falcon

or tsp sig and one of the aforementioned

see thats funny you just called me scum for pointing out that falcon could be scum for naked voting me and sheeping made? this doesnt follow your logic

i dont see how it dont follow it fam

[Epignosis]

Folks, I'm serving up mafia today. Who wants some?

[tutuu]

@tutuu
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Who are the mafia?

Gosh that must be a difficult thing to talk about right now.

wilgy and rondo and/or falcon

or tsp sig and one of the aforementioned

Ah, awesome. Wilgy IS mafia.

And right after you said this too:

That's obviously false and did Wilgy dispute that verbiage?

he didnt and whats wrong with that? people use common / short words sometimes. wilgy also aint a man of many words

I doubt the host would call me "not a threat."

u also doubted how i woulda done some things in my magic the gathering game and the result was the opposite of u expectation, i think a healthy dose of skepticism is good when trynna guess how other hosts operate

Wilgy actually has said that his checks are threat/not a threat, and that he isn't told what 3p checks as, so

Theres also an ic and a modified parity cop, thats a lot of investigative power. Especially with the amount of protection evident.

like yea thats what im saying, im trynna tell epi that wilgy isnt necessarily mafia for his claim

yea these isnt mutually excluse

i think that wilgy is mafia but not because of the claim of his night result

[Epignosis]

@tutuu
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Who are the mafia?

Gosh that must be a difficult thing to talk about right now.

wilgy and rondo and/or falcon

or tsp sig and one of the aforementioned

Ah, awesome. Wilgy IS mafia.

And right after you said this too:

That's obviously false and did Wilgy dispute that verbiage?

he didnt and whats wrong with that? people use common / short words sometimes. wilgy also aint a man of many words

I doubt the host would call me "not a threat."

u also doubted how i woulda done some things in my magic the gathering game and the result was the opposite of u expectation, i think a healthy dose of skepticism is good when trynna guess how other hosts operate

Wilgy actually has said that his checks are threat/not a threat, and that he isn't told what 3p checks as, so

Theres also an ic and a modified parity cop, thats a lot of investigative power. Especially with the amount of protection evident.

like yea thats what im saying, im trynna tell epi that wilgy isnt necessarily mafia for his claim

yea these isnt mutually excluse

i think that wilgy is mafia but not because of the claim of his night result

Let's play "I'm a Civilian."

Hi. I'm a civilian. I know I need mafia dead to win. I don't know that I need any third parties dead to win.

Should I vote for the person I know I need dead to win or half ass defend him in favor of voting for the third party I don't know I need dead to win?

[Epignosis]

Wilgy is mafia.
tutuu is mafia.
Nanook is mafia.

Go eat.

[Epignosis]

One time I get this shit right I don't get a civilian role.

[tutuu]

Let's play "I'm a Civilian."

Hi. I'm a civilian. I know I need mafia dead to win. I don't know that I need any third parties dead to win.

Should I vote for the person I know I need dead to win or half ass defend him in favor of voting for the third party I don't know I need dead to win?

bro lol

u just said that wilgy is full of shit because he claimed u arent a threat

u considering urself a threat

so ... is it weird for townies to wanna eliminate threats to town?

if u dont consider urself a threat and town could win with u alive ... why are u convinced wilgy outted himself by calling u not-a-threat xd

[tutuu]

i just hit the nail on the head bro

[tutuu]

wilgy: epi isnt a threat

epi: yo hold up bitch, I AM A THREAT. FUCK YOU

ppl: vote epi

epi: WTF WHY YALL VOTIN ME I AINT NO THREAT

[Epignosis]

Let's play "I'm a Civilian."

Hi. I'm a civilian. I know I need mafia dead to win. I don't know that I need any third parties dead to win.

Should I vote for the person I know I need dead to win or half ass defend him in favor of voting for the third party I don't know I need dead to win?

bro lol

u just said that wilgy is full of shit because he claimed u arent a threat

u considering urself a threat

so ... is it weird for townies to wanna eliminate threats to town?

if u dont consider urself a threat and town could win with u alive ... why are u convinced wilgy outted himself by calling u not-a-threat xd

First, I'm disappointed that you didn't ask my I called you "panties."

Second, Wilgy first claimed I was "innocent." That's a different term than "not a threat." I am innocent in that I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition, but I AM a threat in that I need some civilians dead to win.

As a corollary, I'm calling Wilgy a liar. You're defending him AND calling him mafia at the same time while voting the easy target.

I'm flat out calling Wilgy mafia.

[Epignosis]

tutuu clutching at straws is everything I hoped it would be.

[tutuu]

Second, Wilgy first claimed I was "innocent." That's a different term than "not a threat." I am innocent in that I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition, but I AM a threat in that I need some civilians dead to win.

oooh i see

that makes sense. it explains why u thought he outed himself

i saw that he clarified that he sees theat vs not a threat but i didnt think that u took the innocent thing more seriously

[tutuu]

why u call me panties?

[tutuu]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

[Epignosis]

why u call me panties?

Because you called me brah.

[tutuu]

why u call me panties?

Because you called me brah.

lmao