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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
It is literally what my ability says to me. It is a yes or no.
Also wb Ruri. How you?
Also wb Ruri. How you?
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
I got off work early.
And now I'm tired.
Another day of work tomorrow and then day off.
But in-game, I'm confused.
And now I'm tired.
Another day of work tomorrow and then day off.
But in-game, I'm confused.
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 5]
Going back to this.. WIlgy probably is town for checking Sig, or they're all a team and it's pretty dicey play. Tutuu flipped town. Maybe Wilgy's check was messed with, since he's still alive and claimed cop (Epi flipping witch hunter flavor doesn't seem like a non-threat to town). I'm not sure what Bo will flip now, but hopefully scum. 112 granted wishes, of which Tutuu used. It would be a problem if the poison was fake, or IDK what. 2 previous poisons worked differently, so maybe this might work differently.Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:10 am Self-resolving:
Scotty:
Lock town due to desperado.
Epignosis:
Claimed 3p.
Syn/BoKnows:
Poisoned. Pending flip.
Tier 1, mech things:
RondoDimBuckle:
Was apparently green-checked by Wilgy. So, Wilgy might always have to flip first before Rondo.
Poison:
Claimed parity on 112, Rondo, TSP. Pushed 112 who flipped 3p. Pushed Koba for RB choice.
tutuu:
Claimed to have poisoned Bo. Claim was unprompted, and she pushed 112 who flipped 3p and gave her wishes (of which was used on Bo). I think Bo's flip should help figure tutuu out.
DrWilgy:
Claimed cop. Checked Bo/Rondo/Epi? Being wrong on Epi, or a claimed check, is not a good look. Bo flipping should determine Wilgy, but seeing as the check on Epi seems to be wrong, maybe not so necessary?
Tier 2:
sig and TSP:
Some mech with each other. Not quite tied to the point of being in Tier 1.
Made:
Treestump claim.
falcon45ca:
The only other game I remember them in was Deck Mafia 003, when they were town and voted themselves off on D1. I'm not sure if I can confidently read them, and would rather others do it instead. But I think from my limited experience with them, shouldn't they be trying to vote themselves off again?
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME:
I don't really remember their posts. But they claimed a witcher flavor. There was that game W!Mac said killing Nanook is pro-town, but didn't push Nanook here, so IDK if that means anything. Like, maybe Nanook has a NAI approach to games so it's near policy.
There's a huge interlink of mech in Wilgy, I think. Was thinking that should wait till we figure Bo out first, but the check on Epi seems to be wrong, so that probably answers the question? If so, Bo is likely gonna flip villa. If Bo is villa, that kinda implicates Tutuu and Wilgy. If poison is gonna take 2 phases to resolve, then we're gonna be a lot closer to LYLO without resolving anything.
I'm leaning towards Tier 2 for solving, while Tier 1 is a confusing mech list.
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
[VOTE:
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For now.
For now.
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lol dying to poison, useless vote
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
Even if Tutuu flipped town, she claimed to have received it from someone else. You sure the poison is real?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:11 amlol dying to poison, useless vote
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At least that vote was real. Pfft.
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
According to Epi. But nice to see there was discussion about this.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:22 amEverything he said about whether he's a threat or not is totally meaningless other than the snippet I highlighted. It doesn't matter if he's potentially detrimental to town, it ONLY matters that his wincon is compatible with town's.Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:45 amit is not though.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:34 pmThis is the only part of that quote that matters, the rest is irrelevantnot a threat to the civilian win condition
he hadn't win the game because he hadn't got rid off few civilians.
"While I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition (beyond needing some of them dead), I DO need some of them dead."
so he would def. prioritize their kills over the scum to win the game??
that would reduce our numbers, and we will lose.
that's definitely contradicting his own statement.
In other words, if town doesn't need to kill him to win, he woild be classified as Not A Threat. Whether he has to kill a town or can shoot a town or can win with either alignment is totally irrelevant and meaningless, the ONLY thing that matters is whether town has to kill him to win or not. According to epi town did not have to kill him to win.
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
They probably do. My first game actually had a cop brought into endgame but blocked.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:16 pmI question things cuz that's my playstyle.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:09 pmSay what you mean then. Why question things instead of present a case unless you know that case to be false and weak?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:48 pmYou investigated TSP as well?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:39 pmYour overtly aggressive play is silly here Falcon. If you believe this to be ruse say it.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:31 pmYou investigated Sig? Is that what you'd like us to believe?
Undermining my clear of Sig/TSP is pointless.
Overtly aggressive? Oh hunny, you haven't even begun to see me upset.
[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine
I think your claim is weak and false. I believe the case has already been made, given Epi's flip, you making a case against me & choosing to not investigate me tho you've had me in the POE for a long time.
Oh yeah, and Maf don't seem to care that you're alive....which is strange for a cop, don't ya think?
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 5]
Hmm.. This was right.tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:52 pmI agree. Im not gonna self-pres against himScotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:49 pm Wilgy living today gives him another day to cop if he is one. And mafia will have to kill one of us. Even though Rondo says he can “save me” tonight as the 6th doctor or whatever, I still think it should be me. They kill Wilgy, they reveal he was right about rondo and made. It’s not in their best interest. And it’s also not in our best interests to kill Wilgy today.
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FYI, I recently finished a game where 3p claims won, while town lost. Not sure how this site approaches 3p, but they're usually burned with fire on my homesite.
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
FALCON
Falcon leads with some fluff and a comment on how a Rondo post was dirty.
First post of value below. Within the fluff magic 8 ball says 'it is certain on 112 or MR being scum.' followed by an explanation on the magic 8 ball results. I don't think I'd have seen this as anything other than fluff if it wasn't for the explanation. Did Falcon feel the need to explain away knowing MR certainly being scum?
Falcon's progression on DK seems fair:
A notable interaction with 112. Slightly sheeping MAC while providing own input. Interesting that if Scum, Falcon wouldn't have know 112's 3p color and likely would've expected a green.
Falcon rule of 3'd here:
at this point, Falcon had not interacted with MR or Ender, and rather fluffposted. The only real chain of progression we had seen from Falcon was DK.
Falcon shade towards MR but left open ended:
Day 3, Falcon put some energy into the MR counter wagon
Day 4 was nothing but fluff and a Rondo Vote
Day 5 we actually got momentum out of him, but most of it was picking up on the Epi case, and shading me for shading him.
I'm ending here as there's not much else.
So something to note at this point, the only opinions that I've found of Falcon thinking someone is wolf are DK, a fickle MR vote, Me and Rondo. Falcon believed 112 to be civ.
There's nothing else. Questions that lead nowhere. Fluffy fluff galore. Plus in spite of the MR vote, they moved off it when MR was actually gaining traction.
Falcon via MR
Not much, MR had a 'scum read' on Falcon, but it was so wishy washy that I'm unable to tell genuine shade or not:
Conclusion, Falcon yeet is fine. I feel like there'd be more to work with here if Falcon was pro town. The move off of MR doesn't sit right, and the hard opinions and opposition towards me only picking up once I start actually eyeballing the bird screams somethin, not sure what though. Can see team interactions with MR, but they aren't screaming or anything.
The questions leading no where constantly gets me. A look of questioning is nice, but where are the conclusions? I think this is why I'm often misyeeted, so I get it, but perhaps I'll be the misyeeter this time? Not sure. Seems scummy, like wanting the appearance of trying to deduce.
Falcon leads with some fluff and a comment on how a Rondo post was dirty.
First post of value below. Within the fluff magic 8 ball says 'it is certain on 112 or MR being scum.' followed by an explanation on the magic 8 ball results. I don't think I'd have seen this as anything other than fluff if it wasn't for the explanation. Did Falcon feel the need to explain away knowing MR certainly being scum?
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Falcon's progression on DK seems fair:
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A notable interaction with 112. Slightly sheeping MAC while providing own input. Interesting that if Scum, Falcon wouldn't have know 112's 3p color and likely would've expected a green.
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Falcon rule of 3'd here:
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Falcon shade towards MR but left open ended:
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Day 5 we actually got momentum out of him, but most of it was picking up on the Epi case, and shading me for shading him.
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So something to note at this point, the only opinions that I've found of Falcon thinking someone is wolf are DK, a fickle MR vote, Me and Rondo. Falcon believed 112 to be civ.
There's nothing else. Questions that lead nowhere. Fluffy fluff galore. Plus in spite of the MR vote, they moved off it when MR was actually gaining traction.
Falcon via MR
Not much, MR had a 'scum read' on Falcon, but it was so wishy washy that I'm unable to tell genuine shade or not:
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Conclusion, Falcon yeet is fine. I feel like there'd be more to work with here if Falcon was pro town. The move off of MR doesn't sit right, and the hard opinions and opposition towards me only picking up once I start actually eyeballing the bird screams somethin, not sure what though. Can see team interactions with MR, but they aren't screaming or anything.
The questions leading no where constantly gets me. A look of questioning is nice, but where are the conclusions? I think this is why I'm often misyeeted, so I get it, but perhaps I'll be the misyeeter this time? Not sure. Seems scummy, like wanting the appearance of trying to deduce.
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
Man, that took like an hour to do the person with the least posts. Don't got time for this shit. Wish I was better at playing in ISO, but it' just aint me.
Gonna skim Made's and give conclusions next, but can't give a wallpost.
Gonna skim Made's and give conclusions next, but can't give a wallpost.
Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
So we're basically at this point.
TSP is a solid civ read for me
Wilgy would be next followed up by Nanook.
BoKnows is going to die tonight anyway so Ignoring him.
Made claimed stump awhile back, which most people believed and he was generally read as town by alot of the town people. This makes me hesitant to flip him at this stage in the game.
Leaving ruri, Poison, Falcon, and Rondo.
If Falcon is wolf he's playing a totally different game than his normal wolf one. So if you take him out that gives us Ruri, Poison and rondo in the pool.
TSP is a solid civ read for me
Wilgy would be next followed up by Nanook.
BoKnows is going to die tonight anyway so Ignoring him.
Made claimed stump awhile back, which most people believed and he was generally read as town by alot of the town people. This makes me hesitant to flip him at this stage in the game.
Leaving ruri, Poison, Falcon, and Rondo.
If Falcon is wolf he's playing a totally different game than his normal wolf one. So if you take him out that gives us Ruri, Poison and rondo in the pool.
Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
I'm going to review Ruri, Poison and rondo today if I can then get back to y'all. But, I'm a bit lost don't know if its worth reading through flipped mafia posts given theyre all different alignments.
Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
Also we're probably like 2 phases from loosing assuming there aren't anymore 3rd party floating around.
10 players, probably 3 mafia. Poison, Day kill, and night kill. Is 4-3 soooooooo no pressure.
10 players, probably 3 mafia. Poison, Day kill, and night kill. Is 4-3 soooooooo no pressure.
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Falcon has been actively anti-town, I dont care if he is town or not I am happy yeeting him to simplify the gameDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:14 am FALCON
Falcon leads with some fluff and a comment on how a Rondo post was dirty.
First post of value below. Within the fluff magic 8 ball says 'it is certain on 112 or MR being scum.' followed by an explanation on the magic 8 ball results. I don't think I'd have seen this as anything other than fluff if it wasn't for the explanation. Did Falcon feel the need to explain away knowing MR certainly being scum?Spoiler: show
Falcon's progression on DK seems fair:Spoiler: show
A notable interaction with 112. Slightly sheeping MAC while providing own input. Interesting that if Scum, Falcon wouldn't have know 112's 3p color and likely would've expected a green.Spoiler: show
Falcon rule of 3'd here:at this point, Falcon had not interacted with MR or Ender, and rather fluffposted. The only real chain of progression we had seen from Falcon was DK.Spoiler: show
Falcon shade towards MR but left open ended:Day 3, Falcon put some energy into the MR counter wagonSpoiler: showDay 4 was nothing but fluff and a Rondo VoteSpoiler: show
Day 5 we actually got momentum out of him, but most of it was picking up on the Epi case, and shading me for shading him.I'm ending here as there's not much else.Spoiler: show
So something to note at this point, the only opinions that I've found of Falcon thinking someone is wolf are DK, a fickle MR vote, Me and Rondo. Falcon believed 112 to be civ.
There's nothing else. Questions that lead nowhere. Fluffy fluff galore. Plus in spite of the MR vote, they moved off it when MR was actually gaining traction.
Falcon via MR
Not much, MR had a 'scum read' on Falcon, but it was so wishy washy that I'm unable to tell genuine shade or not:Spoiler: show
Conclusion, Falcon yeet is fine. I feel like there'd be more to work with here if Falcon was pro town. The move off of MR doesn't sit right, and the hard opinions and opposition towards me only picking up once I start actually eyeballing the bird screams somethin, not sure what though. Can see team interactions with MR, but they aren't screaming or anything.
The questions leading no where constantly gets me. A look of questioning is nice, but where are the conclusions? I think this is why I'm often misyeeted, so I get it, but perhaps I'll be the misyeeter this time? Not sure. Seems scummy, like wanting the appearance of trying to deduce.
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
I am so town its not funny, The only mech town clear that didnt town read me or semi town read me after their death was Alison and Mac specifically said she would do that. Tutuu who I was pushing till the last second called me town. You can go ahead and take me out of the POEsig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:33 am So we're basically at this point.
TSP is a solid civ read for me
Wilgy would be next followed up by Nanook.
BoKnows is going to die tonight anyway so Ignoring him.
Made claimed stump awhile back, which most people believed and he was generally read as town by alot of the town people. This makes me hesitant to flip him at this stage in the game.
Leaving ruri, Poison, Falcon, and Rondo.
If Falcon is wolf he's playing a totally different game than his normal wolf one. So if you take him out that gives us Ruri, Poison and rondo in the pool.
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Describe his normal wolf game plz.sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:33 am So we're basically at this point.
TSP is a solid civ read for me
Wilgy would be next followed up by Nanook.
BoKnows is going to die tonight anyway so Ignoring him.
Made claimed stump awhile back, which most people believed and he was generally read as town by alot of the town people. This makes me hesitant to flip him at this stage in the game.
Leaving ruri, Poison, Falcon, and Rondo.
If Falcon is wolf he's playing a totally different game than his normal wolf one. So if you take him out that gives us Ruri, Poison and rondo in the pool.
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
MADE
D1 N1 had progressed quite normally, Seemed to read KZA as town, 112 as scum and Syn as Scum. Voted Syn. The pivot from fluff to hunting felt natural. Made's treestump hint was dropped here.
D2
So, using the Dya vote chain as evidence to find scum is fine, but we aren't aware of Syn/Bo's alignment even now. The problem here is (as long as you take into account my cop claims and Sig's TSP claim) TSP by Sig by me is green, Ender flipped green, Rondo by me is green, Michelle, KZA, and MAC all flipped green. This is some towny soup.
Lot of banter between Made and MR. Can't tell if teammate indicative. Not good enough of a reader to tell unfortunately.
I do not think that BoSyn and Made are on the same team after reading D2. Maybe the play is to yeet someone, wait for BoSyn to resolve, then yeet Made if BoSyn Green?
Gonna take a break there and get back to it after snack. Need muh Goldfish and Juicebox.
D1 N1 had progressed quite normally, Seemed to read KZA as town, 112 as scum and Syn as Scum. Voted Syn. The pivot from fluff to hunting felt natural. Made's treestump hint was dropped here.
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Lot of banter between Made and MR. Can't tell if teammate indicative. Not good enough of a reader to tell unfortunately.
I do not think that BoSyn and Made are on the same team after reading D2. Maybe the play is to yeet someone, wait for BoSyn to resolve, then yeet Made if BoSyn Green?
Gonna take a break there and get back to it after snack. Need muh Goldfish and Juicebox.
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
Someone other than me review Ruri's interactions with MR plz. I was kinda just townreading ruri off Michelle's recommendation for the longest time.
@Made @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I volunteer you two.
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
I'm not hunting off interactions this game tbh, until we get a flip of the same color
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 2]
I don't think it's Made based on this interaction.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:34 amI mean D1 ended with 4 main wagons at some point in the final hours from what I can tell: Dya, Scotty, Syn, Sig. Two of those are now confirmed town. That doesn't shake your view at all?Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:27 amI mean I was comfortable with how day 1 ended until y'all decided to off dya out of nowhere, and I don't like that we're looking away from that, which is why the evolution of my reads has been towards people who are pushing us away from that--IE tutuuMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:24 am Also Made's stagnant takes on D1's wagons (i.e. still sussing Syn, kinda Sig) just feels...out of place. Like he's unable to make proper progression on D1's gamestate.
This may be confbias but it also may just be a hit.
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
I feel that MR was trying to offer Made as an option rather than push them. That's not what a bussing teammate does.
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
@Ruri, change your vote you goober.
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It sounds like cow shit in our language lmaooooo
I hope you are feeling well btw
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@DrWilgette what do you think about nook?
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I pinged the wrong person
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
Yeah, I may be convincing myself of something that just loses the game for town, but I really don't think it's Made.
The MR interaction feels like it's not W/W.
If BoSyn flips RED there's no way it's Made.
The MR interaction feels like it's not W/W.
If BoSyn flips RED there's no way it's Made.
Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
2 thingsDrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:38 amDescribe his normal wolf game plz.sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:33 am So we're basically at this point.
TSP is a solid civ read for me
Wilgy would be next followed up by Nanook.
BoKnows is going to die tonight anyway so Ignoring him.
Made claimed stump awhile back, which most people believed and he was generally read as town by alot of the town people. This makes me hesitant to flip him at this stage in the game.
Leaving ruri, Poison, Falcon, and Rondo.
If Falcon is wolf he's playing a totally different game than his normal wolf one. So if you take him out that gives us Ruri, Poison and rondo in the pool.
1. I saw TSP say it
2. Tone wise he seems different then our last game when he was mafia.
Now if everyone else thinks he's mafia I won't go to the grave defending him. Also do plan to look him over.
Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
Agree re w/w, I also agree with Nanook that doing interactions isn't the only/best strategy but like not much else going on.
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I agree, I don't really see made being a scum tbh. Not from the MR theory, but independently.
I think we are getting the blow because we have cleared wrong people from beginning.
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lol, I'll keep that in mind. Ruri, it was not my intention to call you cow shit. Much love.
Fever actually stayed away last night after I fell asleep, still congested and taking my antibiotic, but feeling like I'm on the road to recovery. (no harsh physical exertion allowed). Thanks Poison
Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
MRs name does imply he's the main mafia team though. So I may say we should operate under the assumption that both 112 and Epi were our 3rd parties.
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I would like to believe that. Sig what is your views on nook?
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Now, regarding Nook. I have very little to go on. Havn't really read them. Their review of Epi's case and the difference check they provided BEFORE knowing Epi was 3rd party was ballsy and that gives me hesitance to call them scum. They are next on my ISO review list if I get to it in time.
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Re: The Witcher Mafia [Day 6]
What if it's just Falcon, Bo, Nook?
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I would be pissed
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I started to doubt rondo too a bit. I didn't like the post tutuu flip rondo reaction
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How many scum are left? 4? Do we lose after this?
Yeah, lol, if this is a misyeet and if the poison shot is on town, if there are 4 scum remaining, the game is over. I hope it's 3, but this was a big numbers game. Not sure what to fink.
Yeah, lol, if this is a misyeet and if the poison shot is on town, if there are 4 scum remaining, the game is over. I hope it's 3, but this was a big numbers game. Not sure what to fink.
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Considering the 3p number Ig we wouldnt be having too many scums?
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Idk if the poison flip is town we are pretty much done for tho. And if one of nook/rondo is scum we losing this. And if wilgy/tsp/sig arr scum and we don't lynch him after all these red flags then we are stupid and I won't defend myself. I would just take a long walk. if falcon and Ruri are scum then the inactives made fool of us very well when we were busy killing each other and they rested in the beach sipping their drink.
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Or maybe there's no 3p and scum are just all different colors.
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That would be the best case in all worlds.
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