Baby Mafia (TOWN WIN)

#1501

Mizery wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:02 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:01 pm You're all wolves.
i hope the wolves win

fairly unsporting of you

#1502

@DrWilgy
U say no one liked dizzy, but that wasn't true at all. People were voicing opinions for like both. Gura in particular said that this was Dizzy's town game. Alison said dizzy was town for mind melding with them? I can't recall others off the top of my head

#1503

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:21 pm
Mizery wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:02 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:01 pm You're all wolves.
i hope the wolves win
fairly unsporting of you

it's not-
I don't mean-

#1504

oh did i get whooshed by a joke

#1505

Well to be fair, I'm assuming you were saying that nobody was expressing dizzy was town at the time, which idk off the top of my head. But I still think that was irrelevant, because misery was around interacting, which definitely influenced reads on them in my opinion

#1506

went to check nanooks legacy townreads because im not voting them today and its everyone posting right now

#1507

My baseless read of this would be that I was pushed as an easy ML but then they switched to dizzy when that was available but that kinda-
like
Dizzy was ahead of me for almost the whole day, no ? so that- that doesn't make much sense.

#1508

And u voted me before u voted dizzy at the end but I don't get the feeling you actually cared about your vote. Like I voted someone in my town PoE, which others brought up which even you did, but the way you went about voting me doesn't match up to me. /Shrug

#1509

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:25 pm went to check nanooks legacy townreads because im not voting them today and its everyone posting right now

Is wigly one of them? I was finna check when I got home.

#1510

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:28 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:25 pm went to check nanooks legacy townreads because im not voting them today and its everyone posting right now
Is wigly one of them? I was finna check when I got home.

no just you/luckbox/mizery and me

which, i was already okay with two of those and have no desire to repeat history by running up mizery again so that is fine by me

#1511

Ya I like that PoE to

#1512

my predictions for a NK were either myself/Alison/Ender or maybe Esooa.

Nanook I did not consider a possibility

#1513

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

#1514

don't know why you'd expect esooa with the way she played day 1

i've seen her play lazy games as either alignment so it's not even like i'd scumread her for it but i certainly wouldn't townread anything she's posted so far

that's one read i'm okay with hipfiring

#1515

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:21 pm @DrWilgy
U say no one liked dizzy, but that wasn't true at all. People were voicing opinions for like both. Gura in particular said that this was Dizzy's town game. Alison said dizzy was town for mind melding with them? I can't recall others off the top of my head

I believe you misunderstood me while giving Nook an aneurysm.

When I said "like Mizzy tho" and "like Dizzy tho" I'm referring to people were thinking "What about the Mizzy/Dizzy option for vote."

It was a silly way for me to state that I saw a contrast in momentum between the two lead wagons.

I will say that my last minute vote was something not as calculated as I would have preferred, thinking that this momentum observation was some sort of holy epiphany.

#1516

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:25 pm went to check nanooks legacy townreads because im not voting them today and its everyone posting right now

I don't believe that this is wise.

Nook was wanted dead for a reason, was Nook right or wrong is a manipulatable WIFOM situation.

#1517

I still don't believe [VOTE: Luckbox] aubergine to be in a civ mindset.

#1518

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:00 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:25 pm went to check nanooks legacy townreads because im not voting them today and its everyone posting right now
I don't believe that this is wise.

Nook was wanted dead for a reason, was Nook right or wrong is a manipulatable WIFOM situation.

on principle i'm not gonna kill someone's townreads after they ate the NK absent an incredibly strong case

#1519

Nook is killed a lot, but I'm more inclined to turn the other way in regards to his town leans for the most part

Anything can be wine if u choose it so

#1520

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:00 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:25 pm went to check nanooks legacy townreads because im not voting them today and its everyone posting right now
I don't believe that this is wise.

Nook was wanted dead for a reason, was Nook right or wrong is a manipulatable WIFOM situation.
on principle i'm not gonna kill someone's townreads after they ate the NK absent an incredibly strong case

I see. Understood.

I only raised the thought as I don't think we have clear enough lines yet. I've seen scum set up favorable 50/50 WIFOM situations by using the legacy of a dead player too many times for comfort at this point (Ted gave me some form of mafia PTSD or something). I do not think it incorrect to use all available information, but recognize that the kill is controlled by scum first and foremost.

#1521

not saying i'm ride or die with those reads and will never re-evaluate but imo nanook doesn't get killed if those reads are super bad, prefer to look elsewhere

#1522

How much to Nanook's reads matter if he was planning to not listen to them anyways??

#1523

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:35 pm my predictions for a NK were either myself/Alison/Ender or maybe Esooa.

Nanook I did not consider a possibility

And why does this matter?

What is your conclusion?

#1524

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:15 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:35 pm my predictions for a NK were either myself/Alison/Ender or maybe Esooa.

Nanook I did not consider a possibility
And why does this matter?

What is your conclusion?

My conclusion is that you're a wolf

#1525

I legitimately don't see how others see you as anything related to town.

#1526

@Wisp can you give me a little elaboration on why you think wilgy is town by meta? want something to work off of but don't want to do homework because i'm lazy

#1527

I would like the general thoughts on Alison. I am thinking my town stance there may be weaker than yesterday.

#1528

Not really I read a lot of games very quickly, from a lot of people, and I focused maybe too much on early game, which is what cause my problems with Dizzy. So I'm scratching it, I very much dislike how he went about voting me

I think if like he just blanket voted me, or was a bit serious with the vote, and/or reiterated the reasoning, it would have been so much better. But like it just feels like a joke vote, that he didn't seem to care if it did anything or not

#1529

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:24 pm I legitimately don't see how others see you as anything related to town.

I mean there is still a chance that they are just bussing you as well, since even to this day, I have no idea why they are pushing you so aggressively solely off just "not being townie"

#1530

What I will say about say, is if you flip town, then I might look at them being a bit disingenuous with their push. I wouldn't assume that is the case, but it would be a thought. I also dislike how they assumed night kills, and especially how they put themselves in that list

#1531

What I will say about luck*

#1532

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:35 pm I would like the general thoughts on Alison. I am thinking my town stance there may be weaker than yesterday.

i'll give you an answer later when i'm home and have time to ISO people

#1533

How could my own cult member die?
I shall avenge you Nanook!

#1534

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:37 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:24 pm I legitimately don't see how others see you as anything related to town.
I mean there is still a chance that they are just bussing you as well, since even to this day, I have no idea why they are pushing you so aggressively solely off just "not being townie"

"not being townie" is good enough

#1535

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:44 pm What I will say about say, is if you flip town, then I might look at them being a bit disingenuous with their push. I wouldn't assume that is the case, but it would be a thought. I also dislike how they assumed night kills, and especially how they put themselves in that list

what do you mean "assumed night kills"

I wondered: who is going to die, and came up with a list of 4 possibilities. Nanook wasn't on the list. Did I need to post that? No I didn't-- but what isn't to like about it exactly?

#1536

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:46 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:41 pm I'd vote Alison
Could you elaborate there?
If Alison becomes a viable counterwagon to miz i woild vote for her

Ok so I noticed Nanook seems to be suspecting Lime Coke. But I also found this post of Nanook wanting the Alison CW like I did, agreeing with my action I wanted to make but wasn’t able to then.
Yeah I still think there is scum within Dizzy/Alison and Dizzy flipped Town soooo.
/Vote Alison
I shall sheep you now Nanook! True Friendship!
Come Join us fellow comrades!

#1537

its useless info, and putting yourself in the list will always come off as disingenuous to me
and even being like, "I am going to yell at the Dizzy voters" is gross to me

#1538

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:03 pm its useless info, and putting yourself in the list will always come off as disingenuous to me
and even being like, "I am going to yell at the Dizzy voters" is gross to me

Dizzy being killed was really dumb. No reason to not yell at them.

#1539

Like there was absolutely nothing wolfy about Dizzy's play and he somehow got 6 votes.

That means at least three played bad.

#1540

@EnderWiggin
i wanted to ask you something, I know I stated, "Ender re-evaluating is weird here if he is a wolf", but I've been burned by this wifomy read before
Idk if you answered it when Alison asked, but can you re-iterate why me doing that seem to invalidate your wolf case on me?

@Gaviel
maybe, I think Gira? made a good post on her, I think what bothers me somewhat, is how she seemed to die out in presence near the end of the day

#1541

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:03 pm its useless info, and putting yourself in the list will always come off as disingenuous to me
and even being like, "I am going to yell at the Dizzy voters" is gross to me

Dude it’s Alison.
Me and Nanook suspected Alison.
Alison knew I couldn’t push them alone so they remove Nanook.
Alison knew what I could do because I did it to Dizzy and they know that could have been them and I would have been Eliminating wolf day 1.
So they kill Nanook and hope no one noticed Nanook’s slight scum read on them and hope no one else sheep’s me.

@EnderWiggin
Your the last member of my cult sheep me!

@Gira
Idk if you accepted my invitation but if you want to join my cult just vote Alison!

#1542

mrrrrrrrrrrrr

#1543

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:06 pm @EnderWiggin
i wanted to ask you something, I know I stated, "Ender re-evaluating is weird here if he is a wolf", but I've been burned by this wifomy read before
Idk if you answered it when Alison asked, but can you re-iterate why me doing that seem to invalidate your wolf case on me?

@Gaviel
maybe, I think Gira? made a good post on her, I think what bothers me somewhat, is how she seemed to die out in presence near the end of the day

Look at what Nanook said about Alison at EoD.
Nanook scared Alison.

Why do you think Nanook died?
Why didn’t you or Alison die? Or even Falcon?

Because Alison is scum that’s why!
Nanook and Me were reaching the same conclusion on Alison and so Alison needed to remove Nanook!

#1544

I mean even if the case was good, wrong is wrong
I thought he matched his wolf meta that I saw, and combination of him dying out in the thread, and the fact that he made comments about his vote being town? I believe that's what it was, he still kinda just left it there. I sheeped Gaviel's read for the most part, you can blame him if it makes your stomach feel tingly inside

#1545

@Gavial
we have 48 hours, and I dont use NKA like that or even at all, at most I tend to listen to dead players reads, but that is usually as far as I go

#1546

gavial is extremely entertaining

#1547

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:46 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:41 pm I'd vote Alison
Could you elaborate there?
If Alison becomes a viable counterwagon to miz i woild vote for her
Ok so I noticed Nanook seems to be suspecting Lime Coke. But I also found this post of Nanook wanting the Alison CW like I did, agreeing with my action I wanted to make but wasn’t able to then.
Yeah I still think there is scum within Dizzy/Alison and Dizzy flipped Town soooo.
/Vote Alison
I shall sheep you now Nanook! True Friendship!
Come Join us fellow comrades!

can you explain why you thought alison might be scum on day 1? i'd look back for it myself but don't have the time right now, want to hear it in your own words

#1548

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:57 pm How could my own cult member die?
I shall avenge you Nanook!

ew

#1549

Gavial, Wisp, Gira are all still villagers.

Mizery and DrWilgy are probably still not villagers.

I'll work on figuring out if Ender/Alison/Falcon are still villagers when they start posting

Tess/LC idk

#1550

Mizery wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:15 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:57 pm How could my own cult member die?
I shall avenge you Nanook!
ew

good luck trying to read into Gavial's alignment by taking stuff like above too seriously