Baby Mafia (TOWN WIN)

[Luckbox Inc]

Alison isn’t even trying to defend herself because she knows I’m right!


Alison used the “it’s you Gavial so it doesn’t matter” excuse instead of responding to my reasonings.

That’s because she is trying to avoid it because she is wolf!

I think you're both villagers. Do you plan on tunneling her for the whole game though or do you think you'll be able to reassess?

You think THAT is Villagery with also what I said about Nanook?

Clearly you ain’t looking at the big picture like Mizery is.
Maybe Lime too but it looks like a distance attempt.

It's better to evaluate people based on their own merits and posting.

[Alison]

You all want really TMI.

Look how Alison went about Dizzy day 1.
When I look at it now, it’s like Alison knew Dizzy was Town.

I'm just that good

[Gavial]

Alison isn’t even trying to defend herself because she knows I’m right!


Alison used the “it’s you Gavial so it doesn’t matter” excuse instead of responding to my reasonings.

That’s because she is trying to avoid it because she is wolf!

I think you're both villagers. Do you plan on tunneling her for the whole game though or do you think you'll be able to reassess?

You think THAT is Villagery with also what I said about Nanook?

Clearly you ain’t looking at the big picture like Mizery is.
Maybe Lime too but it looks like a distance attempt.

It's better to evaluate people based on their own merits and posting.

I am basing it off their posting.
If this was going by the way I see others read players Alison would roll town every game but clearly they can’t as I don’t believe that have this game.

[Gavial]

You all want really TMI.

Look how Alison went about Dizzy day 1.
When I look at it now, it’s like Alison knew Dizzy was Town.

I'm just that good

Yeah no.

[Gavial]

Well I mean you are good.
That’s why I treat you like Wisp.

I know both you and wisp play great as both alignments so that’s how I know how to read you both.

@Wisp
Read Alison like you would your brother, that might help you find a better read on them.

[Alison]

That post wasn't intended to convince you, it's for postgame.

[Alison]

Anyway nothing of value has occurred since my sleep.

I am meditating on the possibility that Wisp is town. It's not that urgent a concern since LC always goes today.

I have seen no good arguments for LC being town.

[Alison]

@DrWilgy Thoughts on:

LC
Myself
Wisp

please

[Millium]

i cant even not waver on my town read of Falcon

[Millium]

Well I mean you are good.
That’s why I treat you like Wisp.

I know both you and wisp play great as both alignments so that’s how I know how to read you both.

@Wisp
Read Alison like you would your brother, that might help you find a better read on them.

my brother wouldn't ever play like this

[Luckbox Inc]

Anyway nothing of value has occurred since my sleep.

I am meditating on the possibility that Wisp is town. It's not that urgent a concern since LC always goes today.

I have seen no good arguments for LC being town.

I finished reading LC today and can see him as a wolf a lot more than I did yesterday. I do think that there was some atey stuff that comes off decently well (I'm a sucker for ate though).

But just to be clear, LC is BlueKang/Vaporeon on MU?

[Millium]

Ate is the bane of my existence, though IDK what mental gymnastics gave him the idea that I was wolf when he voted me

[Luckbox Inc]

Read Esooa iso-- still think she's a wolf.

I also think that even if LC flips wolf, that they are just w/w together. But there just isn't anything of substance from her.

[Millium]

You all want really TMI.

Look how Alison went about Dizzy day 1.
When I look at it now, it’s like Alison knew Dizzy was Town.

a lot of people make the read she did on Dizzy
you are more likely to believe someone is town, if their world view is the same as yours
it's not really that serious

[Millium]

and Alison's reads are still way too fluid, like even Luckbox honestly
The way they move around the thread, and talk to people, and pressure things
it's too sporadic in my opinion

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca

What is your reason?

Not overly dissimilar to yours

Hypocritical approach to Dizzy...tess's first post was some big garbage wall post, like that's towny in and of itself.


No other real reads seemingly. Is tess a sockpuppet? How does Ender have meta on them?

Because I know who Tess is.

May I ask how you know who they are? Something they said?

I'm surprised you don't know.

Why?

It would be a lot easier if y'all just told me what you think should be obvious.


What's the point of a sock puppet account if everyone knows who you are?


Please explain it to me like I'm five

A decent part of D1 was when it was discovered that Mizery is Illwei because of her connection to Tess/Esooa.

You seem to have missed that completely.

Tess is Essoa?


Yesh I've missed that detail.



Does it affect my read on them?....nah

[Millium]

I think Falcon has a higher chance of being a wolf, Dr Wilgy, Ender, or even Gira
before I doubt my read on Alison today, and even if she is a wolf, she has two other partners
like I doubt there isn't at least one wolf in the players that are playing somewhat backseat to this game right

[Millium]

@falcon45ca
what is your PoE of most likely people to be night killed?

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

I think you mean:
[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

I'm not opposed to that idea

[Alison]

Anyway nothing of value has occurred since my sleep.

I am meditating on the possibility that Wisp is town. It's not that urgent a concern since LC always goes today.

I have seen no good arguments for LC being town.

I finished reading LC today and can see him as a wolf a lot more than I did yesterday. I do think that there was some atey stuff that comes off decently well (I'm a sucker for ate though).

But just to be clear, LC is BlueKang/Vaporeon on MU?

LC used AtE in Buckets where he was mafia.

[Millium]

meh I feel like we are all playing different games, my confidence that we hit a wolf today is not looking good

[Gavial]

and Alison's reads are still way too fluid, like even Luckbox honestly
The way they move around the thread, and talk to people, and pressure things
it's too sporadic in my opinion

That’s just Alison though.
They are like that every game.


Let me ask you something wisp.
Would you do what Alison has done as wolf? Could you play the way you are currently playing as wolf?

If the answer is both Yes then my point stands!

[Millium]

Anyway nothing of value has occurred since my sleep.

I am meditating on the possibility that Wisp is town. It's not that urgent a concern since LC always goes today.

I have seen no good arguments for LC being town.

I finished reading LC today and can see him as a wolf a lot more than I did yesterday. I do think that there was some atey stuff that comes off decently well (I'm a sucker for ate though).

But just to be clear, LC is BlueKang/Vaporeon on MU?

LC used AtE in Buckets where he was mafia.

is buckets mafia on Syndicate?

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca
what is your PoE of most likely people to be night killed?

I have no idea. There's no lock town's, so it's pretty much wide open.



I guess my POE of NKs would be the player list sans my SRs

[Luckbox Inc]

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

I think you mean:
[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

I'm not opposed to that idea

Why though? You were on Tess before-- and I've generally felt good about you here-- but could you discuss your reads on both of them?

[Gavial]

meh I feel like we are all playing different games, my confidence that we hit a wolf today is not looking good

Then believe in me and vote Alison.

Here I’ll help you out and show you:
[VOTE: Alison] aubergine


^
Just copy and paste that!

[Alison]

Anyway nothing of value has occurred since my sleep.

I am meditating on the possibility that Wisp is town. It's not that urgent a concern since LC always goes today.

I have seen no good arguments for LC being town.

I finished reading LC today and can see him as a wolf a lot more than I did yesterday. I do think that there was some atey stuff that comes off decently well (I'm a sucker for ate though).

But just to be clear, LC is BlueKang/Vaporeon on MU?

LC used AtE in Buckets where he was mafia.

is buckets mafia on Syndicate?

Yes, it should be titled as something like "Buckets: War of the GOATs" or something hosted by JaggedJimmyJay.

[falcon45ca]

meh I feel like we are all playing different games, my confidence that we hit a wolf today is not looking good

How confident were you that Dizzy was a wolf?

[Millium]

in hypothetical alison is a wolf worlds, I could never play like she is right now, if the roles were swapped
i'd rather make friends than enemies

[Gavial]

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

I think you mean:
[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

I'm not opposed to that idea

Why though? You were on Tess before-- and I've generally felt good about you here-- but could you discuss your reads on both of them?

Honestly, I can see a Lime Coke, Luck and Alison Team RN.
As much as I think Luck has been Townie it looks like Luck is trying to push Falcon back into a Tess vote so Alison doesn’t go over today.

[Alison]

I really strongly believe that we should not be voting off the Dizzy wagon today

[Millium]

meh I feel like we are all playing different games, my confidence that we hit a wolf today is not looking good

How confident were you that Dizzy was a wolf?

the read came from reading just one wolf game, and early handling of his vote
so not much at all, the problem was the second wagon was Mizery and I really didn't want to execute that

[Gavial]

in hypothetical alison is a wolf worlds, I could never play like she is right now, if the roles were swapped
i'd rather make friends than enemies

How so?
Your such a good player you can play either alignment very well and so can Alison.

[Millium]

in hypothetical alison is a wolf worlds, I could never play like she is right now, if the roles were swapped
i'd rather make friends than enemies

How so?
Your such a good player you can play either alignment very well and so can Alison.

to each their own, my wolf game is good in its own right
but I don't have the ability to power wolf

[Luckbox Inc]

meh I feel like we are all playing different games, my confidence that we hit a wolf today is not looking good

It's what is making this game fun and interesting though.

As for me-- this is the first time I've ever wolf-read Esooa and I don't want to be wrong, and don't think I am-- everything about her game/reads/takes seems super shallow. The Dizzy vote was made on pretty flimsy grounds, she's clearing me because of "sort by post-count", the push on Gira is half-hearted-- she just feels wolfy here and like a shell of her village self.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

I think you mean:
[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

I'm not opposed to that idea

Why though? You were on Tess before-- and I've generally felt good about you here-- but could you discuss your reads on both of them?

Tess I've already mentioned...I feel their push and reasons for voting Dizzy were pretty garbage, and yes their huge wall post was a trash intro post.


Alison seems to be pushing...LC? Based off Nooks NK. I find that pretty sus, and I've seen Alison do that before as wolf

[Gavial]

I think Falcon has a higher chance of being a wolf, Dr Wilgy, Ender, or even Gira
before I doubt my read on Alison today, and even if she is a wolf, she has two other partners
like I doubt there isn't at least one wolf in the players that are playing somewhat backseat to this game right

Trust me man if we don’t get Alison out now it’s over for us.
Want me to link you to the recent game I was in that I lost because we needed to get Jack out before it was too late and it never happened?

Yeah it sucked because I called Jack scum most of the game!

[Gavial]

I really strongly believe that we should not be voting off the Dizzy wagon today

Oh wow Luck wasn’t on it and not just that isn’t that a scum slip?

Alison is voting Lime who never voted Dizzy.

@Wisp

Alison caught wolf!

[Luckbox Inc]

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

I think you mean:
[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

I'm not opposed to that idea

Why though? You were on Tess before-- and I've generally felt good about you here-- but could you discuss your reads on both of them?

Tess I've already mentioned...I feel their push and reasons for voting Dizzy were pretty garbage, and yes their huge wall post was a trash intro post.


Alison seems to be pushing...LC? Based off Nooks NK. I find that pretty sus, and I've seen Alison do that before as wolf

LC might actually be a wolf, but Alison would seem to take pride in sheeping dead villagers. There was a big discussion about it in the DVC of the MU team game we just played.

[Gavial]

in hypothetical alison is a wolf worlds, I could never play like she is right now, if the roles were swapped
i'd rather make friends than enemies

How so?
Your such a good player you can play either alignment very well and so can Alison.

to each their own, my wolf game is good in its own right
but I don't have the ability to power wolf

Would you say your in both your town and scum
Meta RN?

Also Alison has powerwolfed before as one game they tried pushing me immediately day 1 for an absolutely terrible reason.
They got caught pretty fast.

[Gavial]

Least by me

[Gavial]

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

I think you mean:
[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

I'm not opposed to that idea

Why though? You were on Tess before-- and I've generally felt good about you here-- but could you discuss your reads on both of them?

Tess I've already mentioned...I feel their push and reasons for voting Dizzy were pretty garbage, and yes their huge wall post was a trash intro post.


Alison seems to be pushing...LC? Based off Nooks NK. I find that pretty sus, and I've seen Alison do that before as wolf

LC might actually be a wolf, but Alison would seem to take pride in sheeping dead villagers. There was a big discussion about it in the DVC of the MU team game we just played.

I’m also sheeping dead Nanook, that’s why I’m voting Alison.

[Millium]

I really strongly believe that we should not be voting off the Dizzy wagon today

Oh wow Luck wasn’t on it and not just that isn’t that a scum slip?

Alison is voting Lime who never voted Dizzy.

@Wisp

Alison caught wolf!

I did notice and chuckle at this, but small contradictions, don't make someone a wolf
especially when my iso is filled with them, and they don't even make me a wolf

though when Alison came into the day phase with her push on LC, I expected a mechanical out, which I didn't get

[Gavial]

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

I think you mean:
[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

I'm not opposed to that idea

Why though? You were on Tess before-- and I've generally felt good about you here-- but could you discuss your reads on both of them?

Tess I've already mentioned...I feel their push and reasons for voting Dizzy were pretty garbage, and yes their huge wall post was a trash intro post.


Alison seems to be pushing...LC? Based off Nooks NK. I find that pretty sus, and I've seen Alison do that before as wolf

Dude Look at my recent post about her slip thinking LC voted Dizzy.
I also think Alison could be distancing from LC I’m not fully confident in that but it’s a likely possibility.
I was the first to build it off of Nook’s NK like if anyone looks the worst from it it’s Alison not LC. Even look at what Nanook said about Alison EoD.

[Gavial]

I really strongly believe that we should not be voting off the Dizzy wagon today

Oh wow Luck wasn’t on it and not just that isn’t that a scum slip?

Alison is voting Lime who never voted Dizzy.

@Wisp

Alison caught wolf!

I did notice and chuckle at this, but small contradictions, don't make someone a wolf
especially when my iso is filled with them, and they don't even make me a wolf

though when Alison came into the day phase with her push on LC, I expected a mechanical out, which I didn't get

I honestly think it’s a terrible distancing attempt.

[Luckbox Inc]

I really strongly believe that we should not be voting off the Dizzy wagon today

Oh wow Luck wasn’t on it and not just that isn’t that a scum slip?

Alison is voting Lime who never voted Dizzy.

@Wisp

Alison caught wolf!

I did notice and chuckle at this, but small contradictions, don't make someone a wolf
especially when my iso is filled with them, and they don't even make me a wolf

though when Alison came into the day phase with her push on LC, I expected a mechanical out, which I didn't get

I honestly think it’s a terrible distancing attempt.

Esooa/LC would seem to have a much greater chance of being w/w than Alison/LC

wolf team is probably something like Esooa/Wilgy/LC

[Gavial]

Guys look, Alison dipped because I made her choke.

[Gavial]

Well not Choke more like Freeze Up

[Gavial]

I really strongly believe that we should not be voting off the Dizzy wagon today

Oh wow Luck wasn’t on it and not just that isn’t that a scum slip?

Alison is voting Lime who never voted Dizzy.

@Wisp

Alison caught wolf!

I did notice and chuckle at this, but small contradictions, don't make someone a wolf
especially when my iso is filled with them, and they don't even make me a wolf

though when Alison came into the day phase with her push on LC, I expected a mechanical out, which I didn't get

I honestly think it’s a terrible distancing attempt.

Esooa/LC would seem to have a much greater chance of being w/w than Alison/LC

wolf team is probably something like Esooa/Wilgy/LC

Dude no.
Absolutely wrong.
Look at Nanook!
Look at the mentions from Alison and LC to each other.
Look how they doing stuff!

I am willing to bet Alison removes her vote from LC before EoD because she’s scum with him.

[Gavial]

Then probably votes her own town read to save LC.