Baby Mafia (TOWN WIN)

[Alison]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

[EnderWiggin]

Gav can be Valentine for this game because she was always the endless supporter for Ender after Battle/Command School.

Why not Alai

Because Valentine's support was much longer standing and actually mindful of Ender than Alai's.

Not to say Alai wasn't a good member of the Jeesh. But Valentine supported Ender post-school massively.

[EnderWiggin]

I guess if I have to be an ender antagonist peter is the best option

Like I dont want to be bonzo or bernard

Or that ship's captain.

Quincy or w/e it was.

[EnderWiggin]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

Self-spew analysing yourself tho.

Lmao.

[Alison]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

Self-spew analysing yourself tho.

Lmao.

Can you refute it though?

[tessepia]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

why aren't you with Ender

[EnderWiggin]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

Self-spew analysing yourself tho.

Lmao.

Can you refute it though?

First you'd have to provide evidence for me to refute.

But yes, given I have you maybe paired with other people not Wilgy or Falc.

[tessepia]

the most important poet to be or not to be with

[EnderWiggin]

the most important poet to be or not to be with

Haha. Clever.

[Alison]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

why aren't you with Ender

I am voting him and not you when I could easily get you killed if I was scum with ender

[Alison]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

Self-spew analysing yourself tho.

Lmao.

Can you refute it though?

First you'd have to provide evidence for me to refute.

But yes, given I have you maybe paired with other people not Wilgy or Falc.

Who do you have me paired with?

[DrWilgy]

I bet nanook would town read me for this conversation if he was alive

Should've thought about that before you killed him.

[tessepia]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

why aren't you with Ender

I am voting him and not you when I could easily get you killed if I was scum with ender

I don't think you can really hold a town perspective considering I could just not claim if you were town and push you instead, with people like gavial etc wanting you dead

I mean, maybe, but also you bussing isn't that unlikely because you need town cred anyways as a wolf

[Millium]

town cred won't do her any good against Arrow that's for sure

[Alison]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

why aren't you with Ender

I am voting him and not you when I could easily get you killed if I was scum with ender

I don't think you can really hold a town perspective considering I could just not claim if you were town and push you instead, with people like gavial etc wanting you dead

I mean, maybe, but also you bussing isn't that unlikely because you need town cred anyways as a wolf

It's an unnecessary bus because there would be zero accountability if I sided with Ender. I already scumread you and townread him from yesterday, and people like Gavial are always willing to vote there to help me out.

[EnderWiggin]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

Self-spew analysing yourself tho.

Lmao.

Can you refute it though?

First you'd have to provide evidence for me to refute.

But yes, given I have you maybe paired with other people not Wilgy or Falc.

Who do you have me paired with?

Tess.

1 of Wisp/Gira.

Maaaaaaaaaybe Miz.

[Alison]

town cred won't do her any good against Arrow that's for sure

What is Arrow

[Alison]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

Self-spew analysing yourself tho.

Lmao.

Can you refute it though?

First you'd have to provide evidence for me to refute.

But yes, given I have you maybe paired with other people not Wilgy or Falc.

Who do you have me paired with?

Tess.

1 of Wisp/Gira.

Maaaaaaaaaybe Miz.

Wisp and Gira are both hard spewed not partnered with me from D1. Miz has been consistently siding against me.

[EnderWiggin]

town cred won't do her any good against Arrow that's for sure

What is Arrow

Arrow = Gav.

[Alison]

Gav is not a real person. I randed hated townie and he is simply there to help implement my role.

[EnderWiggin]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

Self-spew analysing yourself tho.

Lmao.

Can you refute it though?

First you'd have to provide evidence for me to refute.

But yes, given I have you maybe paired with other people not Wilgy or Falc.

Who do you have me paired with?

Tess.

1 of Wisp/Gira.

Maaaaaaaaaybe Miz.

Wisp and Gira are both hard spewed not partnered with me from D1. Miz has been consistently siding against me.

Lmao.

You mean from the pushes on Wisp or Gira?

Remind me how you pushed me on JOATED d1 and how that's any different.

[tessepia]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

why aren't you with Ender

I am voting him and not you when I could easily get you killed if I was scum with ender

I don't think you can really hold a town perspective considering I could just not claim if you were town and push you instead, with people like gavial etc wanting you dead

I mean, maybe, but also you bussing isn't that unlikely because you need town cred anyways as a wolf

It's an unnecessary bus because there would be zero accountability if I sided with Ender. I already scumread you and townread him from yesterday, and people like Gavial are always willing to vote there to help me out.

eh maybe, I'll consider it.

[Millium]

in regards to Alison/Wisp, I can promise you, wolf!Me would never tussle with wolf!Alison
I could defend that playstyle for days

[EnderWiggin]

Just going to put it out there:
Anyone who spends time going "No way I'd be paired with x" isn't going to get anywhere with me just because self-meta is a slippery slope.

Prove your innocence with your solving of the gamestate and alignments.

[tessepia]

Just going to put it out there:
Anyone who spends time going "No way I'd be paired with x" isn't going to get anywhere with me just because self-meta is a slippery slope.

Prove your innocence with your solving of the gamestate and alignments.

I'm not with Ender (sorry for self meta)

[Alison]

Self-spew analysing yourself tho.

Lmao.

Can you refute it though?

First you'd have to provide evidence for me to refute.

But yes, given I have you maybe paired with other people not Wilgy or Falc.

Who do you have me paired with?

Tess.

1 of Wisp/Gira.

Maaaaaaaaaybe Miz.

Wisp and Gira are both hard spewed not partnered with me from D1. Miz has been consistently siding against me.

Lmao.

You mean from the pushes on Wisp or Gira?

Remind me how you pushed me on JOATED d1 and how that's any different.

No it's from the way they went on hard tilt when I pushed them and blasted emotion everywhere

[tessepia]

I am with Mizery



(bit of self meta there)

[Alison]

Just going to put it out there:
Anyone who spends time going "No way I'd be paired with x" isn't going to get anywhere with me just because self-meta is a slippery slope.

Prove your innocence with your solving of the gamestate and alignments.

I am not trying to convince you. I think many other players in this game will be receptive to my arguments.

[EnderWiggin]

Just going to put it out there:
Anyone who spends time going "No way I'd be paired with x" isn't going to get anywhere with me just because self-meta is a slippery slope.

Prove your innocence with your solving of the gamestate and alignments.

I'm not with Ender (sorry for self meta)

I'm not with Tess. (Also sorry for self meta.)

[Millium]

im going through enders iso right now, and I am skipping through all his poems

[EnderWiggin]

But my poems are the best part.

[EnderWiggin]

How much work would it be to do a spoilered translation of poems in another game.

[EnderWiggin]

Probably too much tbh.

[Millium]

@EnderWiggin
page 2, you pushed on me because you believed I was shutting down town reads
do you think dismissing reads makes someone a wolf without context
Either way my abrasive nature probably scuffed my responses, since my attention was never to shut down reads, its only to express that I don't agree with them
and I didn't, I still think that Nanook as a wolf, would play the way he did

[Alison]

Wisp is the opposite of abrasive.

Wisp is like, someone who struggles to handle people being abrasive towards them.

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin
page 2, you pushed on me because you believed I was shutting down town reads
do you think dismissing reads makes someone a wolf without context
Either way my abrasive nature probably scuffed my responses, since my attention was never to shut down reads, its only to express that I don't agree with them
and I didn't, I still think that Nanook as a wolf, would play the way he did

A wolf's goal is to keep the POE wide.

I've run into several wolves whose early play was to try and be reasonable townies who spent most of their time causing doubt in other people's reads rather than making their own. This is to keep the POE wide and undermine town solving. It can be quite an effective subversive tactic if not addressed early.

I thought that's what you were doing.

[tessepia]

@EnderWiggin
page 2, you pushed on me because you believed I was shutting down town reads
do you think dismissing reads makes someone a wolf without context
Either way my abrasive nature probably scuffed my responses, since my attention was never to shut down reads, its only to express that I don't agree with them
and I didn't, I still think that Nanook as a wolf, would play the way he did

A wolf's goal is to keep the POE wide.

I've run into several wolves whose early play was to try and be reasonable townies who spent most of their time causing doubt in other people's reads rather than making their own. This is to keep the POE wide and undermine town solving. It can be quite an effective subversive tactic if not addressed early.

I thought that's what you were doing.

do I do that?

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin
page 2, you pushed on me because you believed I was shutting down town reads
do you think dismissing reads makes someone a wolf without context
Either way my abrasive nature probably scuffed my responses, since my attention was never to shut down reads, its only to express that I don't agree with them
and I didn't, I still think that Nanook as a wolf, would play the way he did

A wolf's goal is to keep the POE wide.

I've run into several wolves whose early play was to try and be reasonable townies who spent most of their time causing doubt in other people's reads rather than making their own. This is to keep the POE wide and undermine town solving. It can be quite an effective subversive tactic if not addressed early.

I thought that's what you were doing.

do I do that?

Not really? if you're gonna play the solvy card you create your own POEs and just try and push town in a direction.

I don't think I've seen you play solve-wrecking in the way I thought Wisp was doing.

[tessepia]

@EnderWiggin
page 2, you pushed on me because you believed I was shutting down town reads
do you think dismissing reads makes someone a wolf without context
Either way my abrasive nature probably scuffed my responses, since my attention was never to shut down reads, its only to express that I don't agree with them
and I didn't, I still think that Nanook as a wolf, would play the way he did

A wolf's goal is to keep the POE wide.

I've run into several wolves whose early play was to try and be reasonable townies who spent most of their time causing doubt in other people's reads rather than making their own. This is to keep the POE wide and undermine town solving. It can be quite an effective subversive tactic if not addressed early.

I thought that's what you were doing.

do I do that?

Not really? if you're gonna play the solvy card you create your own POEs and just try and push town in a direction.

I don't think I've seen you play solve-wrecking in the way I thought Wisp was doing.

Maybe I should try that

[Alison]

@EnderWiggin
page 2, you pushed on me because you believed I was shutting down town reads
do you think dismissing reads makes someone a wolf without context
Either way my abrasive nature probably scuffed my responses, since my attention was never to shut down reads, its only to express that I don't agree with them
and I didn't, I still think that Nanook as a wolf, would play the way he did

A wolf's goal is to keep the POE wide.

I've run into several wolves whose early play was to try and be reasonable townies who spent most of their time causing doubt in other people's reads rather than making their own. This is to keep the POE wide and undermine town solving. It can be quite an effective subversive tactic if not addressed early.

I thought that's what you were doing.

do I do that?

Tess still looking for the meta tell ender claimed to have on her in tetris

[Millium]

@EnderWiggin
not to bring up dead horses, but man, I am interested in how you completely wiffed this read on LC

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:49 pm
Probably the major thing pinging me this game is he kinda pushes Gav on D1 then drops it almost immediately without ever voting him.

Which is just... weird interaction.

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin
not to bring up dead horses, but man, I am interested in how you completely wiffed this read on LC

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:49 pm
Probably the major thing pinging me this game is he kinda pushes Gav on D1 then drops it almost immediately without ever voting him.

Which is just... weird interaction.

I completely missed the fact that he actually voted Gav.

Easy.

If you actually check progression he points out that he did vote it and I'm like "Wait really?" and then re-eval onto town LC hard and then don't stop until Tess and Alison gang up to give me doubts.

[EnderWiggin]

But trust me, no one is more disappointed than myself for losing my faith in my LC read.

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin
page 2, you pushed on me because you believed I was shutting down town reads
do you think dismissing reads makes someone a wolf without context
Either way my abrasive nature probably scuffed my responses, since my attention was never to shut down reads, its only to express that I don't agree with them
and I didn't, I still think that Nanook as a wolf, would play the way he did

A wolf's goal is to keep the POE wide.

I've run into several wolves whose early play was to try and be reasonable townies who spent most of their time causing doubt in other people's reads rather than making their own. This is to keep the POE wide and undermine town solving. It can be quite an effective subversive tactic if not addressed early.

I thought that's what you were doing.

do I do that?

Tess still looking for the meta tell ender claimed to have on her in tetris

Lmao.

I keep making her mad by denying letting her know.

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin
page 2, you pushed on me because you believed I was shutting down town reads
do you think dismissing reads makes someone a wolf without context
Either way my abrasive nature probably scuffed my responses, since my attention was never to shut down reads, its only to express that I don't agree with them
and I didn't, I still think that Nanook as a wolf, would play the way he did

A wolf's goal is to keep the POE wide.

I've run into several wolves whose early play was to try and be reasonable townies who spent most of their time causing doubt in other people's reads rather than making their own. This is to keep the POE wide and undermine town solving. It can be quite an effective subversive tactic if not addressed early.

I thought that's what you were doing.

do I do that?

Not really? if you're gonna play the solvy card you create your own POEs and just try and push town in a direction.

I don't think I've seen you play solve-wrecking in the way I thought Wisp was doing.

Maybe I should try that

I reckon you'd do it well once you got your head around it.

[Gavial]

I want this on record:
No matter who gets flipped today

Once you've finally got around to flipping Tess.

Flip Alison next.

Agreed!

[Gavial]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

Why is Gira and Wisp out of consideration?

[Gavial]

I mean I understand me because no one can be aligned with me.
Ender your obviously not aligned with.
Mizery I suppose can’t be aligned with you because you probably vote Dizzy over them during Day 1.

[Gavial]

fun fact btw: i am spewed not w/w with anyone but wilgy, falcon and tess. Wilgy is tracker, does anyone think it's me/tess/falcon?

why aren't you with Ender

Because they are with you.

[Gavial]

town cred won't do her any good against Arrow that's for sure

What is Arrow

The equivalent of Gavial.