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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
that was after subbing in like day 4 to a role madness guillo game with a wolf team in shambles, btw. My WiM couldn't have been lower. Alison saw Mac talk about it in our GC
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I don't put any weight on the "I could do better as wolf" argument.
I believe in logic. I don't think either of you decided to make a weird and unnecessary decision as a wolf because YOLO. There is a solid rational justification for whatever it is, and I intend to find it.
I believe in logic. I don't think either of you decided to make a weird and unnecessary decision as a wolf because YOLO. There is a solid rational justification for whatever it is, and I intend to find it.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
it's not just "I could do better as a wolf"Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:32 am I don't put any weight on the "I could do better as wolf" argument.
I believe in logic. I don't think either of you decided to make a weird and unnecessary decision as a wolf because YOLO. There is a solid rational justification for whatever it is, and I intend to find it.
It's that if I'm a wolf claiming like this it was PLANNED
And that I have zero reason to affect my game in that way
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
Note to self:
If I want to pocket Alison I need to completely yolo a game as wolf.
If I want to pocket Alison I need to completely yolo a game as wolf.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
This wine is delicious.tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:34 amit's not just "I could do better as a wolf"Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:32 am I don't put any weight on the "I could do better as wolf" argument.
I believe in logic. I don't think either of you decided to make a weird and unnecessary decision as a wolf because YOLO. There is a solid rational justification for whatever it is, and I intend to find it.
It's that if I'm a wolf claiming like this it was PLANNED
And that I have zero reason to affect my game in that way
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
do you deny that the way I've played lines up to the game a cop would play?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:35 amThis wine is delicious.tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:34 amit's not just "I could do better as a wolf"Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:32 am I don't put any weight on the "I could do better as wolf" argument.
I believe in logic. I don't think either of you decided to make a weird and unnecessary decision as a wolf because YOLO. There is a solid rational justification for whatever it is, and I intend to find it.
It's that if I'm a wolf claiming like this it was PLANNED
And that I have zero reason to affect my game in that way
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I'm fine with you making intentional -EV decisions in order to make me trust you more as wolf. Not only will me trusting you be cancelled out by the -EV of your decision, the local loose cannons won't trust you anyway and you won't get that deep off it.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:34 am Note to self:
If I want to pocket Alison I need to completely yolo a game as wolf.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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Well, you're not a cop so yes.tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:36 amdo you deny that the way I've played lines up to the game a cop would play?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:35 amThis wine is delicious.tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:34 amit's not just "I could do better as a wolf"Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:32 am I don't put any weight on the "I could do better as wolf" argument.
I believe in logic. I don't think either of you decided to make a weird and unnecessary decision as a wolf because YOLO. There is a solid rational justification for whatever it is, and I intend to find it.
It's that if I'm a wolf claiming like this it was PLANNED
And that I have zero reason to affect my game in that way
But you are putting the perfect model image of a cop into play to make everyone think you are.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
Btw I want to point out:
Scythe Mafia was a perfect example of how Tess (As town) doesn't play the perfect little PR.
Scythe Mafia was a perfect example of how Tess (As town) doesn't play the perfect little PR.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
then it's not 'wine'EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:37 amWell, you're not a cop so yes.tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:36 amdo you deny that the way I've played lines up to the game a cop would play?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:35 amThis wine is delicious.tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:34 amit's not just "I could do better as a wolf"Alison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:32 am I don't put any weight on the "I could do better as wolf" argument.
I believe in logic. I don't think either of you decided to make a weird and unnecessary decision as a wolf because YOLO. There is a solid rational justification for whatever it is, and I intend to find it.
It's that if I'm a wolf claiming like this it was PLANNED
And that I have zero reason to affect my game in that way
But you are putting the perfect model image of a cop into play to make everyone think you are.
it's true that to be a wolf I deteriorated my game in order to claim cop--that doesn't make sense
It only does as a cop
cause I am
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"I would never play like this as wolf" both PR ccs expound, gladly talking about how they wouldn't do it.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
mines actually true thoEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:40 am "I would never play like this as wolf" both PR ccs expound, gladly talking about how they wouldn't do it.
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Also it is wine.
Because it's all "Why would x do y"
Which is Wine.
Because it's all "Why would x do y"
Which is Wine.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
Lmao.tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:40 ammines actually true thoEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:40 am "I would never play like this as wolf" both PR ccs expound, gladly talking about how they wouldn't do it.
Except we both know that's a lie.
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Town might not yet.
But both of us looking at each other right now know that's a lie.
But both of us looking at each other right now know that's a lie.
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You won't admit it because you want to win this cc battle.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
lmao yeah sure sure
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
While we're on the train of "Things I'd never do as scum" I would probably not claim the Tess/Wilgy diff check lmao.
I'd probably do something like Gav/Falc same.
I'd probably do something like Gav/Falc same.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
I kinda think the reason for Ender's cc on me was just cause he thought it would be fun, lmao
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
I don't care about this current line of argument because it's dumb.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
Mafia are put in a pretty bad position if Tess is mafia and doesn't net the parity cop in her difference check claim.
You agree with this, Ender?
You agree with this, Ender?
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
There's also the fact that if I got tracked either night I could simply be CC'd by the tracker
It's an awful claim
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
Not really.
9 players
3 are wolves
Gavial is obvious non-PR from how he interacted with Tess setting up her claim.
If she misses PR on her 2 then it narrows the field to 3. Parity cop CCs then only 2 left. Easily able to pick up Tracker even if they aren't in the 2.
Tess would want to WIN the cc, of course.
If they lose it does put her team in a worse position, however Tess isn't one that would go into a CC claim thinking she'll lose.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
I mean I still am worried I'm gonna die today tbhEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:55 am If they lose it does put her team in a worse position, however Tess isn't one that would go into a CC claim thinking she'll lose.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
I'm gonna laugh if you claimed parity cop thinking Wilgy was the cop and wasn't expecting my cc.tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:58 amI mean I still am worried I'm gonna die today tbhEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:55 am If they lose it does put her team in a worse position, however Tess isn't one that would go into a CC claim thinking she'll lose.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
Thing I'm looking forward to most:
Reading scumchat and seeing how Tess and co reacted when my checks were Tess/Wilgy
Reading scumchat and seeing how Tess and co reacted when my checks were Tess/Wilgy
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Did you Claim as roleblocker.tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:03 ambtw too with my position in the game overall, I think it's a reasonable assumption that it was pretty likely I had been tracked at some point
>Wilgy check
>Wilgy got blocked.
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Tess, did you actually just claim as roleblocker.
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my Wilgy check was n1 and he got blocked n2, so nope
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Hm. Okay. Claiming as RBer is probably too ballsy for this situation.
I thought that was a pretty awesome set up and claim for a moment.
I thought that was a pretty awesome set up and claim for a moment.
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NGL if you had done that, simulating your checks with blocks, I would've been impressed.
But I should've known it wasn't the case because I wasn't blocked once so.
But I should've known it wasn't the case because I wasn't blocked once so.
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I'm actually a dumbass lmao.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
I really don't think anyone should disbelieve my claim considering that fact tbh
the conditions for a wolf claim to work here are just
Not gonna happen
Hit the parity cop in my difference
Wasn't tracked once despite being PoE
Y'know
All of it
the conditions for a wolf claim to work here are just
Not gonna happen
Hit the parity cop in my difference
Wasn't tracked once despite being PoE
Y'know
All of it
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
Tbh if you got tracked you actually out both claims which is one goal of your play.
Not hitting Parity cop doesn't matter because you out cop via cc.
Not hitting Parity cop doesn't matter because you out cop via cc.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
You're devaluing the outcomes to make your choice look better lmao.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
This claim serves two purposes:
1. outs prs
2. changes vill focus.
1. outs prs
2. changes vill focus.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
Parity cop doesn't claim if I get into a CC with the tracker before thatEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:16 am Tbh if you got tracked you actually out both claims which is one goal of your play.
Not hitting Parity cop doesn't matter because you out cop via cc.
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Both those work if you miss Parity cop and you get tracked.
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Tracker would have to cc first then. That's just timing dependant.tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:17 amParity cop doesn't claim if I get into a CC with the tracker before thatEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:16 am Tbh if you got tracked you actually out both claims which is one goal of your play.
Not hitting Parity cop doesn't matter because you out cop via cc.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
Regardless of all this you still imo need to build a team with me where I'm the most sacrificial wolf
Which just isn't a thing
Which just isn't a thing
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Do I?
Really?
All I need to do is build a team where you're confident they win if you sac yourself.
Really?
All I need to do is build a team where you're confident they win if you sac yourself.
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Which exists in an Alison team world already.
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And can exist in a Gira or Wisp team world for differing reasons.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
if there's a more sacrificial wolf than me I just tell them to claim and what to claimEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:21 am Do I?
Really?
All I need to do is build a team where you're confident they win if you sac yourself.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
Obviously not.tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:22 amif there's a more sacrificial wolf than me I just tell them to claim and what to claimEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:21 am Do I?
Really?
All I need to do is build a team where you're confident they win if you sac yourself.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
Obviously because I'm not a wolfEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:24 amObviously not.tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:22 amif there's a more sacrificial wolf than me I just tell them to claim and what to claimEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:21 am Do I?
Really?
All I need to do is build a team where you're confident they win if you sac yourself.
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Re: Baby Mafia (D3)
"Ladies and gents they've got back around the bend into the 'No u' section of the course! It's neck and neck as they come up the straight. How long will it take for them to stop spending posts calling each other a wolf? Who knows! Let's find out together!"tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:24 amObviously because I'm not a wolfEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:24 amObviously not.tessepia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:22 amif there's a more sacrificial wolf than me I just tell them to claim and what to claimEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:21 am Do I?
Really?
All I need to do is build a team where you're confident they win if you sac yourself.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.