Baby Mafia (TOWN WIN)

[Millium]

all this shading and Alison has just been as wrong as all of us
Gira feels completely disconnected, but im going to go reread Gira's lylo playstyle in Artemis again

[Millium]

Alison/Gira
Alison/Gira
Alison/Gira

[Gavial]

lol there's more votes on Alison than LC now

kinda yikes

i think this is a pretty telling post relative to how strongly tess defended mizery

Actually from this post I’m now starting to lean back to Gira and Alison because this looks like Blatant scum paint on Miz trying to discredit them for a LHF ML.

what does that post have to do with Mizery? lol

[Millium]

I know I see that, but I have no idea what that post has to do with Mizery still
Tess strongly defended both Mizery and Alison
and Alison gets removed by Gira because of that yikes comment
but then he still continues to ask people why they are wolf reading alison
so its not like its void

[Millium]

and w/w analysis is too wifomy
Arrow killing Falcon here is bad, like I know I said its NAI, but its still kinda bad

[Millium]

and again Alison gave Gira leeway for emotions
SOMETHING SHE DID NOT GIVE TO ANYONE ELSE
like what the fuck man

[Millium]

but arrow has his fair share of bad posts, I can't deny that

[Millium]

Alison
3
Voters: Gavial, Lime Coke, falcon45ca

falcon45ca
1
Voters: Mizery

Lime Coke
4
Voters: tessepia, DrWilgy, Alison, Wisp

tessepia
2
Voters: Gira, Luckbox Inc

[Millium]

god that Falcon vote from Mizery

[Millium]

and they do it again the next day, when they vote Dr. Wigly

[Millium]

@EnderWiggin (I acknowledge you are busy right now
@tessepia
I would appreciate a gun to the head scum team when you both get the chance

GTH right now is:
Tess/Alison/Wisp.

I think Tess/Alison is very likely because like, the only reason Alison would T-dome someone D2 as wolf is if:
a. She thinks she would win (Very likely in most cases, even against LC)
b. Something takes attention off her next day

Tess was softing to claim today becuase it's the perfect 1-2 punch which keeps town from focusing and gives Alison a few days to lose the heat over hard-pushing LC.

[Millium]

@EnderWiggin (I acknowledge you are busy right now
@tessepia
I would appreciate a gun to the head scum team when you both get the chance

I'm kinda busy too--don't think it's illwei despite not liking her entry cause if her saying she's going to vote ender/him town reading her after that is weird

still am pretty sure it's gira
then after that Alison maybe? I kinda had the thought if she was a wolf she'd be here while her partner is cc'ing lol but idk why she's not here as town and meh, I don't feel good about it but sure

ender/gira/Alison

[Millium]

mizery if you don't say who you think is a wolf I'm just going to assume you're one

I think I'm a wolf

I don't.

then who do you think is a wolf

You. :^)

And 2 of Gira/Wisp/Alison.

The rest I have reasons to townread.

But I still need to actually ISO for links. That happens after work tho, so not now.

didn't you say that you don't think I'm partnered with gira? What changed

I don't think you are partnered.

But I also need to verify that before I hard unpair you.

And Wisp is making me doubt scumreading them.

Falcon isn't scum.

Gavial isn't scum.

DrWilgy is uncceed and isn't scum.

And I townread Miz.

That leaves the four of you.

[Millium]

Arrow has so many cringe posts...

[Millium]

Gira is probably town throwing a tantrum now.

kekw

[Millium]

man Alison's day 2 is just gross

[Millium]

If you all are gonna just troll the game then I'm not gonna take it seriously any more. From now on my votes are only going on people who quickhammered/allowed scum to quickhammer.

@Mizery
@Wisp

That means you two. If you're town, then you're going to lose and I'm not gonna care because you guys want to lose as far as I'm concerned.

god I want to policy this post still

[Millium]

probably still voting Mizery though

[Mizery]

l'm'fao

[Millium]

would u vote urself here, if u were somebody else?

[Millium]

I feel like saying that if this is your town game, it's a disgrace to your other town games
the only thing they might save u is like a volume tell at this point, but I don't think volume is a problem for u

[Mizery]

would u vote urself here, if u were somebody else?

Knowing myself and how I play I'm not sure that I can actually be objective here on myself tbh

[Mizery]

Like I don't blame you if you vote me at all

[Mizery]

well that's a lie I'd blame you a little but I played this about as well as sf2 so it's really on me for the most part

[Millium]

Proph's rule of them here is real-time interactions mean very little because everyone is just trying to achieve their win-con
and then there is you, you are ok with dying, while I am suffering trying to solve u

[Millium]

tempted to take tess's read on me as a scumclaim

do it then

ok

[VOTE: tessepia] aubergine

this interaction would always be something I can link as w/w

[Millium]

If we vote Tess today we resolve nothing
If we vote LC today and they flip Mafia we know Alison is playing Buss this game.
If we vote LC today and they flip Town we know Alison is setting up for 2 more ML’s on LHF.

man u really didn't even attempt to not conf-bias this post, jesus man
ignoring the first sentence
you created a situation that always has Alison as a wolf, while simultaneously arguing she is a wolf in town!LC worlds, trying to chain mislynches...
the irony

[Millium]

the original arguement here was that "Gavial was trying to save Tess", but that doesn't necessarily have to be true, he indiscriminately poked at everyone trying to vote out of LC/Alison, I think the only pause there would be when he stated he would vote LC here over alison, and that might have been because the alison train was dying for Wigly's train to grow

[Millium]

@Gavial
Why the hell was Ender even in your "cult"
which was somehow strong enough to vote tess over him, even though almost all counter-claims tend to lean towards being a wolf?

[Gavial]

@Gavial
Why the hell was Ender even in your "cult"
which was somehow strong enough to vote tess over him, even though almost all counter-claims tend to lean towards being a wolf?

His day 1.
How he went about your slot and how he treated others like Nanook.
Nanook died night 1 so I was very determined to keep my last cult member alive!

[Gavial]

probably still voting Mizery though

Alright.
Just make sure though it isn’t Gira.
Because if it is we lose.
It’d be another game I was right on the team but lost anyway.

[Gavial]

I REALLY don’t like Gira and Alison’s Day 1 interaction and then Gira’s stop of mentioning Alison.

@Wisp
I’m really hoping I can prove myself town to you and the best vote for you is Alison because Alison is always wolf with either Miz or Gira so if we get out Alison it gives us more time to decide on who it is rather it becomes me or you going into F3.

[Gavial]

Proph's rule of them here is real-time interactions mean very little because everyone is just trying to achieve their win-con
and then there is you, you are ok with dying, while I am suffering trying to solve u

Yeah this is why I hate it when scum push LHF.
Rather it be their own buddy or town, regardless they aren’t doing enough to try and prove themselves.

So I’ll help you out and try to clear myself. (I know I said this multiple times before but we really need this here). Ask me anything you are concerned with. If there are any posts of mine you believe to be wolfy and want my initial thought process upon making them I’ll tell you.

[Alison]

I really dislike the way you go about solving games but at least you're using reason now so go you

[Alison]

I bet Wisp votes no in league of legends surrender votes when the game is clearly lost

[Alison]

all this shading and Alison has just been as wrong as all of us
Gira feels completely disconnected, but im going to go reread Gira's lylo playstyle in Artemis again

I was wrong on Gavial. Basically everyone else was wrong on him too.

I was wrong on LC. I don't feel bad about it given the way LC was playing but I was wrong on him. Some people were also wrong on him, including you. Others weren't. I'll take that as an L.

I was absolutely right on Dizzy and Wilgy, especially D1, and the people that shaded my reads on them (ie. you) were in the wrong.

I agreed with consensus in most other cases so that's a wash.

Did you actually count the number of times I've been wrong or are you just saying this to make it psychologically easier to convince yourself I played badly?

[Alison]

Gira and Alison went at it, that's a good look
but then you need to remember Gira got randomly re-evaluated because of emotion
something she did not give to literally anyone else for a while

He got re-evalled because he STOPPED using emotion and made a post with actual good thoughts in them.

[Mizery]

Proph's rule of them here is real-time interactions mean very little because everyone is just trying to achieve their win-con
and then there is you, you are ok with dying, while I am suffering trying to solve u

Im sorry

Im not like

Okay okay with dying

I just figured I'd survived this long like i wasnt gonna doe this game which was pretty hype

And then Alison snap votes me which just i dont see how you can think that comes from town, esp with her reasoning

And i have tried to explain my thought process there

So like

If you dont see it then i cant do anything else

The game is functionally out of my hands until next cycle and it's pretty obvious where to go there imo

So

Idk

[Millium]

I bet Wisp votes no in league of legends surrender votes when the game is clearly lost

I don't play league anymore, and that depends on what u mean by "clearly" lost

[Millium]

@Alison
@Mizery
@Gira
@Gavial

@Syn

[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine
good luck good luck
if Im wrong I tried

[juliets]

Hello everyone - I have locked the thread due to the hammer vote. Syn should be online soon.

[Syn]

Votes EOD5

Spoiler: show

Alison
2
Voters: Gavial, Mizery

Gavial
No votes

Gira
No votes

Mizery
2
Voters: Alison, Wisp, Gira

Wisp
No votes

[Sleep]
No votes

@Mizery was eliminated. They were an EVIL BABY. They had no abilities.

You have 25 hours to submit night actions. SOD6 will be October 9 at 12:00 PM PDT.

[Syn]

@Wisp was killed. They were a BABY. They had no abilities.

D6 has begun. You have 48 hours to determine the next elimination.

Spoiler: show

@Gira
@Alison
@Gavial

[Syn]

IT IS LYLO. VOTES ARE LOCKED.

[Gira]

i've never been more nervous for a vote i was sure was flipping scum

[Gira]

[Gira]

i don't plan on rushing this, want to do a reread firs

i think there's a plausible narrative for alison-scum, however, i think the meta differences investigated yesterday are still valid, and i think the gavial posts i dug up go far beyond the territory of town having pkausiby bad reads, and just look strongly agendaed toward protecting the scum team at all costs

[Gavial]

Ok so Alison bussed Mizery nice.
They must have killed Wisp because I was trying to prove to him I was town.

Alright @Gira
Looks like I need to prove myself to you now.

Ask me any questions and I’ll answer them.

[Gavial]

This game if we then voted Alison the next following day:

[Gavial]

But instead they decided to take a ride of the school Buss.