Fortune of Lies [Gameover Mafia Win)

[MafiaMenace]

i mean a lucky rng from the doc might

[Marmot]

Oh wait, there's a doctor. Don't listen to me

[MafiaMenace]

wait didnt naa basically claim poisoner

[MafiaMenace]

from the mafiascum wiki
“ Some moderators will cause the poison to take effect at the end of the next Day, ”

[Marmot]

wait didnt naa basically claim poisoner

Pro-town poisoner, yeah

Interesting note, there's no healer of any kind right?

[MafiaMenace]

he also used it on two cops

[Marmot]

Well, even if NAA is a poisoner, we can't chop him today, because there's still 2 mafia tonight, and they just need one successful NK to win.

[MafiaMenace]

no scratch that
mac died at night michelle died during the day
he did claim to have killed mac tho

[MafiaMenace]

for whatever reason

[MafiaMenace]

only one player claimed to be a doc so i guess we can treat jack as conftown

theres a world where mafia doesnt kill to give his claim substance i guess but /shrug

[MafiaMenace]

im probably not gonna vote until seth confirms your ic claim

[Marmot]

I'd still like NAA to confirm the checklist when he can.

[MafiaMenace]

he did lol

[Marmot]

he did lol

I know he asked us, did he say they all apply to him too?

[MafiaMenace]

ye he said it in the same post
i get the confusion tho it looks like a template rather than his own answers

[MafiaMenace]

paopan and soa are technically direct ccs of eachother lol

[MafiaMenace]

[VOTE: soa] aubergine

[Marmot]

I'm going over the OP again just to verify what statements are true.

[NotAnAxehole]

Yeah of course I killed Michelle

[Marmot]

What role was pointless btw?

[MafiaMenace]

the false town framer and mac

[MafiaMenace]

mac being the fbi agent

[MafiaMenace]

guess a mafia nokill can happen if mafia attacks a night immune player as well
so mac isnt guaranteed useless

[Marmot]

Jack and Paopan can be mafia teammates yeah?

[NotAnAxehole]

@Marmot if the host gives us 3 KP I'm taking you and JoH as town, if the host gives us 4kp, I'm taking JoH. Any objections?

[NotAnAxehole]

Jack and Paopan can be mafia teammates yeah?

Jack with the random doctor claim, just a weird role for mafia.

[MafiaMenace]

not a weird role for serial killer /shrug

[MafiaMenace]

and nokilling as sk for the entire game is a genuine strategy
brb in like half an hour

[Marmot]

@Marmot if the host gives us 3 KP I'm taking you and JoH as town, if the host gives us 4kp, I'm taking JoH. Any objections?

I don't really understand what you mean by taking.

Also, you're gonna take me as town whenever the host comes to confirm me. I'm a conditional innocent child that had to do a bunch of things to reveal on Day 5.

[Marmot]

Jack and Paopan can be mafia teammates yeah?

Jack with the random doctor claim, just a weird role for mafia.

I guess I should look at the Scotty chop again.

One of the things that's clearing Jack is the lie-detector claim that Paopan made, so it could be a way to clear each other.

[NotAnAxehole]

@Marmot if the host gives us 3 KP I'm taking you and JoH as town, if the host gives us 4kp, I'm taking JoH. Any objections?

I don't really understand what you mean by taking.

Also, you're gonna take me as town whenever the host comes to confirm me. I'm a conditional innocent child that had to do a bunch of things to reveal on Day 5.

Oh right, I forgot. So if we have 4 I just take you as town.

[Marmot]

What do you mean by "if we have 4" though, I'm still confused by that?

[Marmot]

I guess, what does 4 KP do for who you think is town?

[NotAnAxehole]

What do you mean by "if we have 4" though, I'm still confused by that?

So I marked SoA for death today.

I mark someone for death tomorrow... When does the mod end the game?

[NotAnAxehole]

Like idk, it could end at the day kill, or it could end after all actions are resolved.

[NotAnAxehole]

Because technically parity would be reached via the day kill technically occuring before the poison, but parity isn't even necessarily the mafia wincon?

[NotAnAxehole]

Like if mafia reaches parity, then dies, who wins?

[Gavial]

@Mac's Mom is town

I've gotta run to work, will be back later.

Oh and btw, here's a readlist.

OH MY GOD SO TOWNY HOW DOES HE DO IT?
Lime Coke

Strong Townread
Alexa
Michelle
Scotty

Townleaning
LinearPoint
MafiaMenace
Axe
Marmot

NotAnAxehole - Jester
Ruri - Reliable Giver Cop (They claim to have no idea how their role works so we can only speculate as to what that means)
MafiaMenace - X-Shot Cop (red checked Scotty, has not claimed number of shots just that they are limited)
Jackofhearts2005 - Random Doctor (heals a random player each night)
LinearPoint - Loyal Bodydouble (Bodyguard only the things that are not kills are transferred to me from my target)
Michelle - Insane Cop (red checked Alexa [meaning town])
Marmot - Something that happens D5
Paopan - Lie Detector
sig - No Claim
Alexa - 1-shot Vigilante (Shot Falcon N1)
Son of Anarch - Oracle

Notably the setup says there are only 2 roles with no modifiers.
Currently SoA and Paopan claim no Modifiers when we have 1 role with no modifiers dead.
It's possible the lie is there is more than 2, but it's worth noting that is technically a counterclaim.

I'm willing to bet most people are claiming their real role, it's a matter of figuring out which roles aren't Town.

NotAnAxehole - Jester
Ruri - Reliable Giver Cop (They claim to have no idea how their role works so we can only speculate as to what that means)
MafiaMenace - X-Shot Cop (red checked Scotty, has not claimed number of shots just that they are limited)
Jackofhearts2005 - Random Doctor (heals a random player each night)
LinearPoint - Loyal Bodydouble (Bodyguard only the things that are not kills are transferred to me from my target)
Michelle - Insane Cop (red checked Alexa [meaning town])
Marmot - Something that happens D5
Paopan - Lie Detector
sig - No Claim
Alexa - 1-shot Vigilante (Shot Falcon N1)
Son of Anarch - Oracle

Notably the setup says there are only 2 roles with no modifiers.
Currently SoA and Paopan claim no Modifiers when we have 1 role with no modifiers dead.
It's possible the lie is there is more than 2, but it's worth noting that is technically a counterclaim.

I'm willing to bet most people are claiming their real role, it's a matter of figuring out which roles aren't Town.

red check on sig
[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Niiiiiiice

Also, LP is definitely scum

@Gavial Flip me daddy

As it turns out there appears to be a friendly little cute Marmot in the forest, there is no way this little critter could be behind anything. Marmot is Confirmed Town! Innocent Child!

[NotAnAxehole]

I guess, what does 4 KP do for who you think is town?

You and JoH are my town, I don't need any others.

[NotAnAxehole]

Anyway, I think it's just over if you can find me @Marmot (I'm also confirmed not mafia by Michelle, and confirmed not 3p by SoA)

We miiiight need 1 town, but we also might not.

[NotAnAxehole]

And I hard claim SoA is poisoned today

[Marmot]

I'm double-checking this list and reposting for my own understanding

There will be at least 1 Sane Town Cop. - **Probably True** - claimed by MafiaMenace
There will be at least 1 Insane Town Cop. - **Confirmed** - Michelle
There will be no Day Vigilante. - **Probably True**
There will be at least 1 Lie Detector. - **Unconfirmed** claimed by Paopan
There will be at least 1 Role that’s pointless.
There will be at least 1 Mafia. - **Confirmed**
There will be at least 1 Third Party. - **Confirmed**
There will be no Post Restriction roles. - **Probably True**
There will be at least 1 Loyal role. - **Confirmed** - LinearPoint
There will be no Vanilla roles because they suck. - **Probably True**
There will be only two roles without a modifier.
There will be no redirection roles of any kind.
There will be at least 8 Town roles. - **Confirmed** - 7 have flipped + Marmot
There will be at least 1 role with a day ability. - **Confirmed** - Lime Coke
There will only be one of the above that’s a lie.

[Marmot]

Anyway, I think it's just over if you can find me @Marmot (I'm also confirmed not mafia by Michelle, and confirmed not 3p by SoA)

We miiiight need 1 town, but we also might not.

Oooooh, I get what you're saying now.

I thought you were saying 4KP as in roles in the game that have KP, but you mean 4 chances to kill someone outside of the mafia NK.

[Marmot]

I mean, you haven't claimed a role yet, I'm not going to magically find you without that. Unless you are claiming Poisoner

[NotAnAxehole]

I'm double-checking this list and reposting for my own understanding

There will be at least 1 Sane Town Cop. - **Probably True** - claimed by MafiaMenace
There will be at least 1 Insane Town Cop. - **Confirmed** - Michelle
There will be no Day Vigilante. - **Probably True**
There will be at least 1 Lie Detector. - **Unconfirmed** claimed by Paopan
There will be at least 1 Role that’s pointless.
There will be at least 1 Mafia. - **Confirmed**
There will be at least 1 Third Party. - **Confirmed**
There will be no Post Restriction roles. - **Probably True**
There will be at least 1 Loyal role. - **Confirmed** - LinearPoint
There will be no Vanilla roles because they suck. - **Probably True**
There will be only two roles without a modifier.
There will be no redirection roles of any kind.
There will be at least 8 Town roles. - **Confirmed** - 7 have flipped + Marmot
There will be at least 1 role with a day ability. - **Confirmed** - Lime Coke
There will only be one of the above that’s a lie.

@Marmot are you considering me as locked town, if not I think I'm gonna forfeit despite probability being skewed in our favor.

We literally don't deserve to win if we can't find someone to be town when they have been identified as not mafia, not 3rd party by 2 roles.

[NotAnAxehole]

Like I have no words. You're trolling me

[Marmot]

I've like barely paid attention the last couple days, so I'm still sorta catching up and wrapping my head around what's going on at this moment.

And no, I'm not considering you as locked town yet.

[NotAnAxehole]

Riiiight ok. Well I'm going to park on the cop that gave us a check on someone they thought was already sunk, no check, and a fake red check.

See y'all at endgame, please play responsibly. SoA is dying at end of day same as Michelle yesterday.

[Marmot]

What's bothering you right now NAA? Is my approach taking town down the wrong path?

[Marmot]

Like I'm not even sure what you want me to do. Who do you want to chop today?