Dr. Who Mafia - Night 12

[Epignosis]

Ten minutes remain. I refuse to use my vote to save myself.

You may be eliminating someone you don't like, but you won't be eliminating Mafia.

[Tangrowth]

Shame about Epig's probable lynch. Hopefully he's bad, but I really doubt it. Why aren't you going to save yourself, Epig?

I'm nervous about Daisy. She did end up being my biggest suspect at end of day, but I definitely need to sleep on my thoughts regarding the matter. This lynch should be interesting upon reflection.

[Gotrees]

Shoot, thought vote would be at midnight, now I don't have time to read through everything.

Would the proper etiquette be to vote for myself?

Or should I vote for Epig based on earlier suspicions?

[Dana]

Shoot, thought vote would be at midnight, now I don't have time to read through everything.

Would the proper etiquette be to vote for myself?

Or should I vote for Epig based on earlier suspicions?

Vote for who you're the most suspicious of, I would say.

[Gotrees]

I guess I officially vote for Epig.

Since poll just closed.

[Gotrees]

Shoot, thought vote would be at midnight, now I don't have time to read through everything.

Would the proper etiquette be to vote for myself?

Or should I vote for Epig based on earlier suspicions?

Vote for who you're the most suspicious of, I would say.

Done, I really hope I don't regret this.

Reading through everything now.

[Epignosis]

Shame about Epig's probable lynch. Hopefully he's bad, but I really doubt it. Why aren't you going to save yourself, Epig?

Because I'm not a bitch.

[Gotrees]

As for an explanation--again, not caught up, but his constant refusal to explain himself seemed really suspicious, especially when he pretty much just joked around when confronted about it, and gloated about how he could get people to follow his lead and vote how he wants. (Something along the lines of: "I vote enrique, enrique takes votes. I vote juliets, juliets takes votes.") Even more suspicious when at least one of those people turned out to be civ.

[Tangrowth]

As for an explanation--again, not caught up, but his constant refusal to explain himself seemed really suspicious, especially when he pretty much just joked around when confronted about it, and gloated about how he could get people to follow his lead and vote how he wants. (Something along the lines of: "I vote enrique, enrique takes votes. I vote juliets, juliets takes votes.") Even more suspicious when at least one of those people turned out to be civ.

[fingersplints]

Sorry for missing the vote. Saying goodbye was rough today, and I really don't feel good. I still am way way behind but I promise I will be all caught up in the next day or two. I apologize again to everyone playing and especially the hosts. I've hosted enough to know how frustrating it is when players don't play, but I'm not usually that person and to make it up to the hosts I'm getting some Dr.Who to watch tomorrow while I catch up

[Spacedaisy]

Shame about Epig's probable lynch. Hopefully he's bad, but I really doubt it. Why aren't you going to save yourself, Epig?

Because I'm not a bitch.

Wow. thanks man. On that note I don't care what happens. I'm going to bed.

[Spacedaisy]

Splints they are accepting votes until the post goes up I think.and also, about saying goodbye.

[bea]

Bass_the_clever
0
No votes

Black Rock
0
No votes

Bullzeye
0
No votes

Boogs
0
No votes

Canucklehead
0
No votes

Dana
1
Elohcin (17)
5%

DFaraday
0
No votes

Dom
1
zeek (6)
5%

Elohcin
2
Metalmarsh89 (5), DFaraday (8)
9%

Enrique
3
Epignosis (3), Black Rock (14), Bass_the_Clever (16)
14%

Epignosis
6
Long Con (7), Made (9), Dana (13), Enrique (15), Spacedaisy (18), Chris (19)
27%

fingersplints
0
No votes

Gotrees
0
No votes

Hedgeowl
0
No votes

keys
0
No votes

Long Con
0
No votes

Made
2
Dom (20), sabie12 (22)
9%

Metalmarsh
0
No votes

MovingPictures
0
No votes

Nikki
0
No votes

nijuukyugou
0
No votes

reywaS
0
No votes

Roxy
0
No votes

Sabie
0
No votes

Snow Dog
0
No votes

Spacedaisy
4
MovingPictures07 (10), S~V~S (11), Snow Dog (12), Hedgeowl (21)
18%

S~V~S
0
No votes

Zeek
0
No votes

Some really stinky poo-poo heads! (Host/Non/Dead)
3
birdwithteeth11 (1), Mister Rearranger (2), bea (4)


IN THREAD VOTES:

Roxy votes for Daisy.
Grotrees votes for Epi.

[Epignosis]

Shame about Epig's probable lynch. Hopefully he's bad, but I really doubt it. Why aren't you going to save yourself, Epig?

Because I'm not a bitch.

Wow. thanks man. On that note I don't care what happens. I'm going to bed.

I detect that the "thanks" is sarcasm. That sentence had nothing to do with you. Mafia expects me to vote elsewhere to save myself. I refuse to roll over. My finger remains pointed where it has been pointed.

Hence, I am not a bitch.

[Dana]

Shame about Epig's probable lynch. Hopefully he's bad, but I really doubt it. Why aren't you going to save yourself, Epig?

Because I'm not a bitch.

Wow. thanks man. On that note I don't care what happens. I'm going to bed.

I detect that the "thanks" is sarcasm. That sentence had nothing to do with you. Mafia expects me to vote elsewhere to save myself. I refuse to roll over. My finger remains pointed where it has been pointed.

Hence, I am not a bitch.

Are you saying that people who vote to save themselves are?

[Dom]

My niece just had a baby <3 her third son, he is named for my husband

<3<3

You didn't voice suspicion of me; you said the fact that S~V~S and I were "buddy buddy" was concerning. You never said you suspected me. In fact, given you defended me hard for most of the game, I was shocked when you came back to respond and found me full on suspicious.

I think you're reaching here.

This whole lynch is definitely shady. I will go down until the end saying that I really see nothing suspect about what Epig has been doing this game.

It's almost like I warned that this may happen when we spent about half the day not talking about suspects at all.
It's almost as if I tried to warn us about this. It's almost as if the accusations against me for saying this are complete bullshit because I was 100% right.

[Epignosis]

Shame about Epig's probable lynch. Hopefully he's bad, but I really doubt it. Why aren't you going to save yourself, Epig?

Because I'm not a bitch.

Wow. thanks man. On that note I don't care what happens. I'm going to bed.

I detect that the "thanks" is sarcasm. That sentence had nothing to do with you. Mafia expects me to vote elsewhere to save myself. I refuse to roll over. My finger remains pointed where it has been pointed.

Hence, I am not a bitch.

Are you saying that people who vote to save themselves are?

No.

[bea]

Wandering around the planet of Alzarius, The Doctor decides he needs a break from all these chatty humans. He decides to play a game of chess.



While he was gone, the crowd grew restless again.
"Two more people died last night. We're in some serious danger here. We don't even know why we're at this planet." Enrique points out.
"We have to trust The Doctor. I'm sure he has a plan." responds Zeek.
"I say we take matters into our own hands. We know that whoever this Valeyard person is put spies among us. At any moment one of you are going to turn on us and kill us all. We have to find the spies!" MP points out.
"Yes. First Bea and Teefies, then MR, then TH. This has to stop! I say it's Enrique!" Says Epi.
"You're not really helping anyone yourself buddy." Enrique retorts.
"I don't know Enrique seems ok to me. He uses bigger words in mafia, but other than that, he doesn't seem odd." Dana points out.
MP looks at the crowd sheepishly. "I'm starting to doubt everyone. I'm even worried about Daisy."

The crowd grows as more and more people add their suspicions to the growing list. SVS grabs Daisy and LC grabs Epi. "We need to keep our eyes on these two. They both look pretty rotten and we don't want one of them sneeking off to try to escape!"

The crowd grows larger and debate gets more and more heated. Finally by just a couple of votes, it's decided that Epi is most definitely BAD.

"You all are wrong. I'm mean, uncarring, dogmatic, sarcastic, caustic, likely drunk, pedantic, a heck of a cook, a lover of good books, an amazing father, not too awful of a husband now that I got my wonderful wife a dishwasher, enegmatic, stoic, antisocial, and loud, but I'm not bad." He tries to tell them as they put his head in a noose and hang him.

As his body sways back and forth, The Doctor runs out of the TARDIS. "What have you lot done????? I turn my head for one minute to try to work out where we need to go for our next clue and you go off and kill another person??? Are you mad???

Here's a list of places we need to travel to next. How about you focus on trying to decide which one we should visit? If you could do that without upping the body count any that would be brilliant!" he growled at them as he stormed back into the TARDIS.



Epignosis has been Lynched. He was K9 and he was a Good Dog.


Effective imediately - Juliets will be replacing Nikki. Turnip Head will be replacing Boogs. Both will be immune from targeting N2 and from being Lynched D3 so that they may catch up. Sorry you had to drop out Nikki and Boogsy. Thank you for stepping in JC and TH!

It is now night. You have 24 hours to vote and send in any PMs. Please remember to send us a PM if you are choosing NOT to use your powers as well. Our post times should be kept around this time from here on out. Thank you so much for your patience while we get this all regulated!!

[Epignosis]

[Tangrowth]

My niece just had a baby <3 her third son, he is named for my husband

<3<3

You didn't voice suspicion of me; you said the fact that S~V~S and I were "buddy buddy" was concerning. You never said you suspected me. In fact, given you defended me hard for most of the game, I was shocked when you came back to respond and found me full on suspicious.

I think you're reaching here.

This whole lynch is definitely shady. I will go down until the end saying that I really see nothing suspect about what Epig has been doing this game.

It's almost like I warned that this may happen when we spent about half the day not talking about suspects at all.
It's almost as if I tried to warn us about this. It's almost as if the accusations against me for saying this are complete bullshit because I was 100% right.

I don't understand; your last sentence, are you referring to my suspicion of Daisy? Because Epig is getting lynched.

I'm willing to take a step back and think about it, anyway.

[Epignosis]

The "bitch" line was meant to be funny, spacedaisy. I meant no offense. "Famous last words," in a way.

[Tangrowth]

Well, what a surprise. RIP Epig.

Bye Nikki and Boogs, welcome TH 2.0 and juliets 2.0!

[Tangrowth]

Lol, I have to admit, I did miss Gilbert Gottfried though. That's the only plus to you getting lynched, good sir. :P

[Epignosis]

I actually got warned for role hinting. Lot of good it did me!

Good fun, bea and bwt!

[Tangrowth]

Well, I'm tired, I'll be back at some point tomorrow, but I do have a busy day ahead of me.

Definitely going to ponder the way this lynch went down.

Also not sure re: the poll, but will research tomorrow.

Also also, not sure I've stated yet, but obligatory note regarding the fact that I am TERRIBLE at decoding so I will continue to let others do so. And thank you those others for doing so.

[Dom]

My niece just had a baby <3 her third son, he is named for my husband

<3<3

You didn't voice suspicion of me; you said the fact that S~V~S and I were "buddy buddy" was concerning. You never said you suspected me. In fact, given you defended me hard for most of the game, I was shocked when you came back to respond and found me full on suspicious.

I think you're reaching here.

This whole lynch is definitely shady. I will go down until the end saying that I really see nothing suspect about what Epig has been doing this game.

It's almost like I warned that this may happen when we spent about half the day not talking about suspects at all.
It's almost as if I tried to warn us about this. It's almost as if the accusations against me for saying this are complete bullshit because I was 100% right.

I don't understand; your last sentence, are you referring to my suspicion of Daisy? Because Epig is getting lynched.

I'm willing to take a step back and think about it, anyway.

It wasn't directed at you in particular. I'm just annoyed with how I came under fire simply because I warned this lynch would end badly because all the discussion would get lumped into a mad rush at the end.

RIP Epig.

[Long Con]

RIP Epig! I voted for Karn because it sounds like a Magic card I know.

[bea]

LC - every time I see your avi I think it's face palming me.

[bea]

OK - first couple of pages should be current and up to date as far as the player lists and links to lynch/night posts go. Please let me know if you think I missed something.

[Long Con]

LC - every time I see your avi I think it's face palming me.

Ha! Nice.

[Marmot]

"Yes. First Bea and Teefies, then MR, then TH. This has to stop! I say it's Enrique!" Says Epi.
"You're not really helping anyone yourself buddy." Epi retorts.

Lol, what?

Sorry Epi. I didn't vote for you in the end, but I was strongly considering it.



And I did that one sober boys and girls.

all better now

[Enrique]

Obviously disappointed with this result. RIP Epig.

[Gotrees]

Not caught up yet, but I thought I'd be helpful and provide some summaries of the planets. Information taken straight from the wiki and a bit from my own head.

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Colm:

Clom, also spelt Klom, was the twin planet (or sister planet) of Raxacoricofallapatorius.

Raxacoricofallapatorius is the home of those fat green farting aliens that everyone hates.

Clom was the home of that weird fat green alien from the episode where that one girl turns into a tile or whatever.

Also notworthy: It was one of the planets stolen by the Daleks (taken by the Daleks?? might tie into "if taken" in Dalek Sec's secrets) to be taken to the Medusa Cascade. They wanted to explode it (and the other planets) but were stopped by the Doctor.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Clom

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Darp:

Tryst used a CET to collect samples on his expedition to catalogue flora and fauna from many planets in the galaxy (including Zil, Vij, Darp, Lvan, Bros, Gidi, Ranx, and Eden)

Not much I can find on this, it doesn't even have a wiki page. Apparently some human xenozoologist visited it to take samples of its plant life. This guy went on to accuse Doctor 4 of smuggling, but was exposed and arrested.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Continuous ... Transmuter

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Grolon:

Grolon was a planet whose "baleful plains" were visited by Captain Cook.

That's all it says. Sounds innocent enough.

Worth noting though: "Captain Cook was an intergalactic explorer who travelled with Mags, a werewolf." "Eventually, despite sending others to their deaths in the ring, Cook and Mags ended up as an act [in a circus] along with the Doctor, where Cook turned Mags into a werewolf and set her on the Doctor. He was killed by Mags but returned to life by the Gods of Ragnarok as their pawn to stop an important medallion getting into the Doctor's hands." "He never showed any remorse or guilt, claiming to follow the rules of the "survival of the fittest". He enjoyed tea-time and drinking tea. "

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Grolon

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Karn:

Karn was once a colony planet of Gallifrey. It was later the home of the powerful Sisterhood of Karn and bolt-hole of the Time Lord criminal Morbius.

I haven't watched the original eposodes of the Sisterhood of Karn, but from what I understand from the WIki, they are an all-female group and were in posession of the Elixir of Life which would be used to extend their lives and could "be used to heal serious injuries, or even (at least in some circumstances) to bring the dead back to life. Time Lords occasionally used it when undergoing a difficult regeneration."

It is also, I believe, the place where Doctor 8 made his transformation into the War Doctor.

It was also a sanctuary for a "malevolent" Time Lord, Morbius, but I know absolutely nothing about that story, and it sounds somewhat complex, so if anyone wants to explain that, go ahead. It's mentioned on the wiki:

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Karn

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Perbea/Periboea(?):



Can't find any planets named "Perbea," this is the closest I could find:

Periboea was a planet visited by Captain Cook, where he met someone who walked around when he was already dead.

It is mentioned in the same episode as Grolon. Pictured is Cook's warewolf, Mags, although I'm not sure if she was actually with him on Periboea.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Periboea

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Commentary:

I've bolded parts that might be of interest.
It will be a miracle if I got all that formatting right and I didn't miss any crucial details. Again, anyone with more info feel free to add on, I don't want to be accused of redacting anything. :P

All of the planets are really pretty vague, with the exception maybe of Kolm. I'm tempted to suggest going there--maybe that Elixr can save a dead person or something--but it's possible that the hosts would expect us to choose the most recognizable planet and maybe make it bad or disappointing.

Idk, I think right now I'm leaning towards Periboea (assuming that's what the hosts meant by Perbia). Hopefully that dead man walking is a good thing and not a bad thing. If both Kolm and Periboea offer resurrection, I'd rather deal with some explorer/warewolf duo than with an evil Time Lord. Gonna leave my vote there unless someone can come up with a better reason to go somewhere else.

[bea]

Yes. Periboea. I spell gooder.

[Turnip Head]

Guess who's back. Back again.

[Gotrees]

Yes. Periboea. I spell gooder.

Ah okay, that's what I figured. Thanks for the clarification.

[zeek]

RIP Epig

Much more difficult poll. Appreciate the commentary, Gotrees.

[zeek]

Also

It wasn't directed at you in particular. I'm just annoyed with how I came under fire simply because I warned this lynch would end badly because all the discussion would get lumped into a mad rush at the end.

RIP Epig.

This isn't true.

[Spacedaisy]

The "bitch" line was meant to be funny, spacedaisy. I meant no offense. "Famous last words," in a way.

I read your explanation, I apologize for being offended by something when I didn't understand what you meant. Shouldn't have jumped to conclusions. We're cool. Sorry for the way this played out.

[Bullzeye]

Sorry I missed the vote! Got distracted by important stuff then just fell asleep. I will try harder but I did say originally I wasn't going to sign up for this because of how busy I am

[S~V~S]

As for an explanation--again, not caught up, but his constant refusal to explain himself seemed really suspicious, especially when he pretty much just joked around when confronted about it, and gloated about how he could get people to follow his lead and vote how he wants. (Something along the lines of: "I vote enrique, enrique takes votes. I vote juliets, juliets takes votes.") Even more suspicious when at least one of those people turned out to be civ.

That would be "obnoxious", not suspicious. Not the same thing.

And Dana, you know when you said it stood out to you that no one defended Juliets? That there was no baddie save? THIS was what you were talking about. That kinda felt like a baddie save to me. A few baddies got in there and manipulated resentment towards Epi over Juliets & his attitude into a lynch.

Welcome Back Juliets & TH

Not sure about the poll options, and don't have time to do my due diligence this minute.

[Gotrees]

Everybody is probably a civilian.

[Gotrees]

As for an explanation--again, not caught up, but his constant refusal to explain himself seemed really suspicious, especially when he pretty much just joked around when confronted about it, and gloated about how he could get people to follow his lead and vote how he wants. (Something along the lines of: "I vote enrique, enrique takes votes. I vote juliets, juliets takes votes.") Even more suspicious when at least one of those people turned out to be civ.

That would be "obnoxious", not suspicious. Not the same thing.

And Dana, you know when you said it stood out to you that no one defended Juliets? That there was no baddie save? THIS was what you were talking about. That kinda felt like a baddie save to me. A few baddies got in there and manipulated resentment towards Epi over Juliets & his attitude into a lynch.

Welcome Back Juliets & TH

Not sure about the poll options, and don't have time to do my due diligence this minute.

I'm sorry, just finished catching up. Looking at the events just before the lynch, lots of things happened since I first personally accused Epi of being suspicious. That being said, I will stand by my vote and refer to my original post on the subject of Epi as my reasoning. My vote and explanation tonight were both very rushed, and I wish I had had the time to read up on it beforehand. Maybe I would have voted for someone else, but that being said, even if I had voted differently, Epi would have still had the majority tonight.

As for the obnoxious vs. suspicious: I'm not really used to that playstyle yet, and to me, when I first looked over Epi's posts, it just seemed strange that an innocent player would act so hostile without any proof to back himself up.

On that note, I really shouldn't be up at a quarter to four in the morning.

[Elohcin]

Well, even though I would have liked to stay up late and help Epi NOT get lynched, looks like I wouldn't have been able to help anyway. And, it also looks like there were a lot of missing voted despite the extended day.

[Snow Dog]

RIP Epi. You'll be missed. I love what you bring to a game.

[Made]

Ok, cards on the table all game I've been closely watching the actions and interactions of Epi, MP, SVS and Zeek. Based on how votes were landing, and how outspoken he was,I was confident that EPI and one of the above were on a team together, but evidentially i was wrong. I'm not sure where these leave me. Open to suggestions/explanations. Can't say i really understand the arguments against Spacedaisy or Enrique.

Voting Karn based on Gotree's explainations

[Dom]

Also

It wasn't directed at you in particular. I'm just annoyed with how I came under fire simply because I warned this lynch would end badly because all the discussion would get lumped into a mad rush at the end.

RIP Epig.

This isn't true.

How is this not true?
In the last few hours of the lynch, there were over 7 pages of posts (at least, in my post per page settings) and you're telling me there wasn't rushing going on? It felt like a mad house as I read. You're simply disagreeing with me to disagree with me or you're telling an alternate narrative to fit your needs. I'm sorry I was right about what would happen if we spend half the day not discussing anyone, but you don't get to say I was wrong. At the beginning of the decoding stuff, Epig was not a real lynch candidate... he wasn't until very late in the day, if I recall correctly.
Your version of the facts is so skewed. It's a world where I don't want anyone to decode anything (far from the truth), a world where I think you're bad (though, you make it easier to think that way), a world where I made up accusations against you (I pointed out one thing and you act like I've presented my closing argument), and a world where Epig's lynch wasn't a totally avoidable thing had we not rushed at the end (which it was).
Now I'm not tooting my own horn here, all I'm saying is: waiting until the end of a lynch to discuss anything creates a sense of panic amongst civilians. This panic can easily be manipulated by baddies. This is absolutely what happened with Epig. If I had time, I'd love to reread the interactions that lead to Epig being lynched.

[sabie12]

Thank you Gotrees for the explanation otherwise I'd have no idea what any of these places are. Went with Karn based on those explanations. At the very least it sounds better than the other options. Who wants gross farting aliens blech.
RIP Epi I didn't end up voting for you, but I guess it didn't help.

[Elohcin]

Thank you Gotrees for the explanation otherwise I'd have no idea what any of these places are. Went with Karn based on those explanations. At the very least it sounds better than the other options. Who wants gross farting aliens blech.
RIP Epi I didn't end up voting for you, but I guess it didn't help.

It is hard to keep track of who has voted for who when there is no poll to look at for answers. So I said, "fuck it" and went to bed.

[Bullzeye]

Clom, also spelt Klom, was the twin planet (or sister planet) of Raxacoricofallapatorius.

Raxacoricofallapatorius is the home of those fat green farting aliens that everyone hates.

Clom was the home of that weird fat green alien from the episode where that one girl turns into a tile or whatever in one of the worst episodes of any show ever

FTFY.

Karn seems like a decent option.