Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

[cassandra]

for context when we're both town, ilario and i have very similar reads, so him agreeing anne is this towny rn is wolfy AF for him

[anne]

me and ilario have been caught on page 1... sorry bro should've distanced harder

[nutella]

i feel good about
illario/leetic
iaafr
anne
lime

i feel meh about
jay
nook
cass
spf because i feel like it

What have I done for you to feel good about?

well i admit i am biased by leetic's claim and am mostly taking that at face value for now, but i also like your solveyness and approach to reading the people you know best

[ilario]

im also not having fun in this thread although it may seem like it, i think the vibe is uncomfortable to be fully honest. i feel compelled to post though because early day 1 is the easiest time to for me

What's making you uncomfortable/sapping your fun?

without getting too into it, this forum layout is hard for me to navigate and the playerlist is one that i feel compelled to not give many reads on in fear of being wrong so it just makes it hard for me to communicate thoughts in a way id like to

Ah yeah that's pretty understandable. Php is pretty notoriously obnoxious tbh

As for the playerlist thing, personally I just make reads and don't care if they're wrong. I mean, I do care about getting my reads right, but I don't let fear of a good playerlist get in the way of making reads, is what I'm trying to say.

Besides half these guys are only good at being town

like who?

[anne]

for context when we're both town, ilario and i have very similar reads, so him agreeing anne is this towny rn is wolfy AF for him

didn't you tell me once that sometimes you guys have different reads and usually he will push his own thoughts above considering your own?

[anne]

>.>

[cassandra]

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

illario/anne/nutella/+1

bbl

[iaafr]

oh also I knew Cassandra was Alexa when she made reference to light game I subbed into where she townread the whole scumteam so I've known all along ftr

[Lime Coke]

There's a lot of funny things that are happening right now.

I'm just watching/reading the thread and trying to find something, and will let my thoughts be known per usual.

[anne]

does cassandra have any townreads rn?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

me and ilario have been caught on page 1... sorry bro should've distanced harder

Yeah this is philo mafia scum are required to hell bus

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

im also not having fun in this thread although it may seem like it, i think the vibe is uncomfortable to be fully honest. i feel compelled to post though because early day 1 is the easiest time to for me

What's making you uncomfortable/sapping your fun?

without getting too into it, this forum layout is hard for me to navigate and the playerlist is one that i feel compelled to not give many reads on in fear of being wrong so it just makes it hard for me to communicate thoughts in a way id like to

Ah yeah that's pretty understandable. Php is pretty notoriously obnoxious tbh

As for the playerlist thing, personally I just make reads and don't care if they're wrong. I mean, I do care about getting my reads right, but I don't let fear of a good playerlist get in the way of making reads, is what I'm trying to say.

Besides half these guys are only good at being town

like who?

Lime and nutella are both fairly polarized, rabbit used to be idk if he still is or not, Marmot and wilgy have trouble escaping yhe poe as either alignment, recent mac is fairly polarized although tbf not sure if that still holds or not

[anne]

btw i think i played a very subdued scum game in constellations, so while i do see the similarities in that particular post alexssandra posted, i don't think my overall behavior that game is similar to this one at all. i know i said "wrong" to what she posted, but i didnt actually read it until now.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

More importantly when you're a mafia God like me everyone is polarized

[ilario]

for context when we're both town, ilario and i have very similar reads, so him agreeing anne is this towny rn is wolfy AF for him

didn't you tell me once that sometimes you guys have different reads and usually he will push his own thoughts above considering your own?

Ehhh I think it’s fair for her to say this since I’ve pushed her on it before for similar reasons. I would say though that alexa is one of 5 people whose reads I would potentially actually factor above my own if she felt very strongly on something I also felt strongly about. So ig I’ll wait and see how her read develops

[nutella]

for context when we're both town, ilario and i have very similar reads, so him agreeing anne is this towny rn is wolfy AF for him

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

illario/anne/nutella/+1

bbl

i am really struggling to believe that you believe these reads

[VOTE: cassandra] aubergine

[cassandra]

i townread Nook now kinda, townread dyslexicon for doing nothing, i think they'd post more as scum, leetic i TR (so if he's mason w/illario then illario's prob town too, he's just annoying me)

iaafr and LC are lightly towny

[ilario]

me and ilario have been caught on page 1... sorry bro should've distanced harder

Yeah this is philo mafia scum are required to hell bus

Why’s that?

[anne]

i townread Nook now kinda, townread dyslexicon for doing nothing, i think they'd post more as scum, leetic i TR (so if he's mason w/illario then illario's prob town too, he's just annoying me)

iaafr and LC are lightly towny

hmm okay. i agree with leetic and LC and iaafr mostly. not sure about dizzy or nook.

[iaafr]

I once again have zero scumreads (except spf and maaaaaybe sheeping nook on Jay but idk not super feeling it)

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

me and ilario have been caught on page 1... sorry bro should've distanced harder

Yeah this is philo mafia scum are required to hell bus

Why’s that?

Tradition!

[nutella]

i townread Nook now kinda, townread dyslexicon for doing nothing, i think they'd post more as scum, leetic i TR (so if he's mason w/illario then illario's prob town too, he's just annoying me)

iaafr and LC are lightly towny

if you tr'd leetic already why push illario so hard? did it not give you any pause on that

[ilario]

I was initially concerned that alexa srd me and changed it to a tr in order to look like she was faking progression on me Instead of just townreading me outright which she normally does. But that’s probably just paranoia and it feels like she believes what she’s saying.

I’d say my trs rn are anne, lc, nook, cass and maybe iaafr in that order

Not feeling super strong on anything yet though

[nutella]

is alexa's view of the game so wack to me that she must be town? reply hazy try again later

[nutella]

i guess the anne stuff isnt wack bc like the constellations/meta stuff was spicy and stuff but the rest is weh

[ilario]

Imma unvote Nutella she seems to be getting a little better

[cassandra]

i townread Nook now kinda, townread dyslexicon for doing nothing, i think they'd post more as scum, leetic i TR (so if he's mason w/illario then illario's prob town too, he's just annoying me)

iaafr and LC are lightly towny

if you tr'd leetic already why push illario so hard? did it not give you any pause on that

i'm not even pushing illario hard, nor am i pushing anne hard TBH her last post makes me think she may actually be town.

[Lime Coke]

for context when we're both town, ilario and i have very similar reads, so him agreeing anne is this towny rn is wolfy AF for him

didn't you tell me once that sometimes you guys have different reads and usually he will push his own thoughts above considering your own?

Ehhh I think it’s fair for her to say this since I’ve pushed her on it before for similar reasons. I would say though that alexa is one of 5 people whose reads I would potentially actually factor above my own if she felt very strongly on something I also felt strongly about. So ig I’ll wait and see how her read develops

I was going to state that her pushing you for your read on Anne was kind of her pulling a you.

I don't think she'd blatantly do that as scum?

Then again would she still have this amount of energy after like 5 scum rands in a row that she's annoyed with by now?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

me and ilario have been caught on page 1... sorry bro should've distanced harder

Yeah this is philo mafia scum are required to hell bus

Why’s that?

To elaborate, philo mafia one (1) infamously gave mafia the option to have a factional one shot day vig that could only be used on mafia and was compulsory. We took that option. One partner was promptly voted out d1, the designated for a shot partner was vigged n1, forcing me to shoot my supposed to help carry the game third partner @Master Radishes d2.

It was fun

[nutella]

i townread Nook now kinda, townread dyslexicon for doing nothing, i think they'd post more as scum, leetic i TR (so if he's mason w/illario then illario's prob town too, he's just annoying me)

iaafr and LC are lightly towny

if you tr'd leetic already why push illario so hard? did it not give you any pause on that

i'm not even pushing illario hard, nor am i pushing anne hard TBH her last post makes me think she may actually be town.

ok

just felt weird to me but i may be more affected by the claim bias than you are, i know i shouldnt weigh it too much but it inherently primed me to see illario from a townlean pov idk

[iaafr]

you're all so towny wow good job if any of you are scum

[Lime Coke]

Also probably should've stated this like 2 posts ago but I couldn't figure out how to explain it.

I'm trying to put more focus on the non-EM'ers because I'm pretty sure I can get the 3 (Or 4 counting SPF who hasn't posted yet) of them read a bit more naturally. I'm just being slower on the draw on the non-EM'ers because they're all great players that I'm sure I could end up misclearing/misvoting them.

[cassandra]

also i'm actually very aware that could be (tbh high chance) it was 0/3, i'm just like WTF because i feel like every time anne is scum she gets townread by the entire game and i'd think ilario of all people (and even nutella) would be more familiar with her meta (which, she is playing squarely in scum meta, and i read her correctly for the past 4 games) and it's making me really frustrated, but #319 was kind of towny. and im like 50/50 on ilario rn, i wasn't sure if i believed the mason claim but TR leetic outside of that and i said as much.

and when anne said "i have one goal this game" i was pretty sure she was referring to makiing me townread her as scum lol

but anyway i actually need to go and stop wasting posts.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If you're not wasting posts are you even trying tbh

[staypositivefriend]

uwu

[iaafr]

Cassandra is lock town for the one goal read (I've made similar reads as town, they're often wrong, funnily enough)

[anne]

tbh i see no harm in revealing my goal, but my personal goal this game was to actually force myself to vote at least 3 times a day as town (unless it's like LYLO or votes are locked or something)

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

tbh i see no harm in revealing my goal, but my personal goal this game was to actually force myself to vote at least 3 times a day as town (unless it's like LYLO or votes are locked or something)

Vote for Jay 3 (three) times

[Lime Coke]

Oh, that's why she started off voting me. Hah.

[cassandra]

ok all the people i said were scum may actually be town, except JJJ is still a pending read. i was getting kind of pinged by brad but i'm not really sure rn

anne, why do you think brad is hard town?

[Lime Coke]

ok all the people i said were scum may actually be town, except JJJ is still a pending read. i was getting kind of pinged by brad but i'm not really sure rn

anne, why do you think brad is hard town?

I kind of want to hear the reason for both of these.

Normally it's just 1 hard townread or scumread without reasoning.

[anne]

i don't have brad hard town, but i thought as scum he wouldn't be in the thread so much. i know it's a bad reasoning, but everything ive seen from scum brad has him posting in short bursts here or there and also the fact he didnt give real reads on the emers in the way i'd expect him to as mafia. i thought as mafia he'd be more pocket-y as he's historically been.

[cassandra]

ok all the people i said were scum may actually be town, except JJJ is still a pending read. i was getting kind of pinged by brad but i'm not really sure rn

anne, why do you think brad is hard town?

I kind of want to hear the reason for both of these.

Normally it's just 1 hard townread or scumread without reasoning.

i legit don't think you've towntold once except asking me my read on you and i'm vaguely surprised by how many people are townreading you rn

and i think the way nutella pushed me may have been towny, and ilario's read may have been dynamic in a towny way, and anne's "wanting to vote 3 times as town" goal may have been towny

[anne]

like one thing ive noticed a lot from scum!brad is that he's always like "guys im driving somewhere" or "tell me who to ISO" ill be back later. it's still early in the game, but a consistent presence is a point in his favor

[cassandra]

i don't have brad hard town, but i thought as scum he wouldn't be in the thread so much. i know it's a bad reasoning, but everything ive seen from scum brad has him posting in short bursts here or there and also the fact he didnt give real reads on the emers in the way i'd expect him to as mafia. i thought as mafia he'd be more pocket-y as he's historically been.

i've found him less pockety as mafia from personal experience. the only times he hasn't outed a hard townread on me right away he's been mafia (one exception was a deck mafia game tho)

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

i don't have brad hard town, but i thought as scum he wouldn't be in the thread so much. i know it's a bad reasoning, but everything ive seen from scum brad has him posting in short bursts here or there and also the fact he didnt give real reads on the emers in the way i'd expect him to as mafia. i thought as mafia he'd be more pocket-y as he's historically been.

This is a good read ill sheep it

[anne]

i don't have brad hard town, but i thought as scum he wouldn't be in the thread so much. i know it's a bad reasoning, but everything ive seen from scum brad has him posting in short bursts here or there and also the fact he didnt give real reads on the emers in the way i'd expect him to as mafia. i thought as mafia he'd be more pocket-y as he's historically been.

i've found him less pockety as mafia from personal experience. the only times he hasn't outed a hard townread on me right away he's been mafia (one exception was a deck mafia game tho)

it's been the opposite experience for me, but it could just be that he knows reading us the same way won't lead to the same reaction from either of us. one thing brad struggles to fake as scum is a plausible progression, so i'll see how that goes first. i do agree with what you said about how as scum he doesn't tr you right away tho now that i think of it

[Lime Coke]

like one thing ive noticed a lot from scum!brad is that he's always like "guys im driving somewhere" or "tell me who to ISO" ill be back later. it's still early in the game, but a consistent presence is a point in his favor

Spoiler: show

Well I'm trying to find a parking spot for my Rolls Royce it's hard to do so at this time.

i don't have brad hard town, but i thought as scum he wouldn't be in the thread so much. i know it's a bad reasoning, but everything ive seen from scum brad has him posting in short bursts here or there and also the fact he didnt give real reads on the emers in the way i'd expect him to as mafia. i thought as mafia he'd be more pocket-y as he's historically been.

i've found him less pockety as mafia from personal experience. the only times he hasn't outed a hard townread on me right away he's been mafia (one exception was a deck mafia game tho)

Really? I feel like I've still hard shielded you as mafia while you were town. It was easier to do so knowing I was right.

[cassandra]

i keep trying to ISO brad

@TonyStarkPrime can you link ISOs

#348 pings me hard though

and brad is a good scum, he doesn't just avoid the thread lol

[staypositivefriend]

uwu

requoting for emphasis