Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

[iaafr]

fwiw i had some alexa paranoia before jay flipped maf but i mean nutella just ripped bong so its easier to suspect top town in that state (not joking)

[nutella]

Lime ngl I don't blame you for thinking my d1 was weak, I'm playing more low key than usual due to rl stuff, and on that note I will be flying home tomorrow and will be quite sparse

Still it should be clear that I'm uninformed and jumping between reads organically

if you guys really think that's how i would approach a teammate jay when everyone else called out that he was off, im actually kinda insulted

whats up with this though

idk read nutellas iso and control f jay in the middle pages

to me it reads like somebody thinking everybody finding jay off was within the tolerance for his recent towngame meta and overcorrecting

like she said

as opposed to a scum partner trying to powerwolf jay out of contention

this exactly yes

i could explain my history with reading jay if i have time but this is the gist

But the thing is both you and Jay felt off the same way by being much hedgier than your normal selves. Why were you like that at EoD? And more importantly,

This is fine actually lmao

Why is this the only thing you had to say at EoD, without even changing your vote?

i dont think you have a clue what my normal self is, youve barely played with me and not recently, hedging is normal townie behavior for me and honestly your closed mindedness about hedging is one of my biggest pet peeves in mafia

[staypositivefriend]

@spf bc she dropped off weirdly d1 after expressing discomfort performatively, and did some stuff early that alexa said are wolftells for her

okay, these are the exact reasons why anne is still in my POE too. we'll see if she posts her way out of it today. im just concerned that you made up the "wagon dynamics" thing to make your read on anne look stronger than it actually is, especially since you didn't even mention any of these reasons in the original post that i quoted

[cassandra]

spf, do u think im sus or no

no, i think you're town. the way that your suspicion on jagged developed throughout d1 felt incredibly organic to me and like something that you didn't "plan" ahead of time. i also generally think that it's true that you were a major factor in jagged going over on d1, and if you were planning to bus him on d1 and get towncred, i suspect your approach would have been more strategic/less sloppy

ty and if you are wolf i will consider this spewing me town, this is all i wanted in my life at the end of the day

[Esooa]

yea im concerned about esooa more than i am about nutella aorn but meh giving time

for what

[iaafr]

yea im concerned about esooa more than i am about nutella aorn but meh giving time

for what

partly for being in the slot youre in / default poe

partly for like not immediately obvtowning yourself in any particular way imo (though i liked some of the thoughts anyway, i mean, respect to your scumgame)

[cassandra]

tbh i thought sloonei was scummy lmao

[leetic]

Lime ngl I don't blame you for thinking my d1 was weak, I'm playing more low key than usual due to rl stuff, and on that note I will be flying home tomorrow and will be quite sparse

Still it should be clear that I'm uninformed and jumping between reads organically

if you guys really think that's how i would approach a teammate jay when everyone else called out that he was off, im actually kinda insulted

whats up with this though

idk read nutellas iso and control f jay in the middle pages

to me it reads like somebody thinking everybody finding jay off was within the tolerance for his recent towngame meta and overcorrecting

like she said

as opposed to a scum partner trying to powerwolf jay out of contention

this exactly yes

i could explain my history with reading jay if i have time but this is the gist

But the thing is both you and Jay felt off the same way by being much hedgier than your normal selves. Why were you like that at EoD? And more importantly,

This is fine actually lmao

Why is this the only thing you had to say at EoD, without even changing your vote?

i dont think you have a clue what my normal self is, youve barely played with me and not recently, hedging is normal townie behavior for me and honestly your closed mindedness about hedging is one of my biggest pet peeves in mafia

Yes, because JJJ's hedging was so towny

[nutella]

spf, do u think im sus or no

whats up with you acting like this and capslock hardclaiming lol

really reminds me of finale like i said before, ppl are like all town clearing you but you are still displaying nervousness and insecurity about it

[Lime Coke]

spf, do u think im sus or no

no, i think you're town. the way that your suspicion on jagged developed throughout d1 felt incredibly organic to me and like something that you didn't "plan" ahead of time. i also generally think that it's true that you were a major factor in jagged going over on d1, and if you were planning to bus him on d1 and get towncred, i suspect your approach would have been more strategic/less sloppy

ty and if you are wolf i will consider this spewing me town, this is all i wanted in my life at the end of the day

What the fuck, Alexa?

[Esooa]

yea im concerned about esooa more than i am about nutella aorn but meh giving time

for what

partly for being in the slot youre in / default poe

partly for like not immediately obvtowning yourself in any particular way imo (though i liked some of the thoughts anyway, i mean, respect to your scumgame)

is immediately obvtowning myself a thing I do ever?

[nutella]

idk i dont wanna bend over backwards to confbias anne scum, spf had a decent point (though i think they could be w/w lmao)

why am i even at the bottom of ur readslist?

idk you're not strongly there im just unsure and paranoid of you

[cassandra]

spf, do u think im sus or no

whats up with you acting like this and capslock hardclaiming lol

really reminds me of finale like i said before, ppl are like all town clearing you but you are still displaying nervousness and insecurity about it

can u give me a dissertation of how this remotely compares to finale

if you're town i'd like it to be 5000 words

[Esooa]

spf, do u think im sus or no

whats up with you acting like this and capslock hardclaiming lol

really reminds me of finale like i said before, ppl are like all town clearing you but you are still displaying nervousness and insecurity about it

Alexa freaks out about wolf reads as town all the time lol

[iaafr]

yea im concerned about esooa more than i am about nutella aorn but meh giving time

for what

partly for being in the slot youre in / default poe

partly for like not immediately obvtowning yourself in any particular way imo (though i liked some of the thoughts anyway, i mean, respect to your scumgame)

is immediately obvtowning myself a thing I do ever?

well not like full obv obvtowning but sometimes u hit a note that makes me suddenly feel rly good about you, and even if those decay, i havent had anything quite like that yet

but shrug

u already know how much im gonna flip flop on you regardless of your alignment

this seems like a decently easy game so far and if it isnt and youre town i hope we can get there together ^^ i will try working with you more cooperatively this game since i frustrated you a bit in poisoner ^^;

[cassandra]

ok im pretty sure esooa and nutella are just outing

[staypositivefriend]

for the record, i don't think that nutella scumreading cassandra is inherently wolfy - i actually think it's pretty likely that nutella would be paranoid of cassandra in this game regardless of her alignment - cassandra is a strong wolf with a good reputation that just played a very public wolf game where she bussed extensively

my larger concern about nutella is just that i cant figure out if she's bullshitting her reads or not, and i almost always have a better grasp on her at this stage of the game than i do right now

[Lime Coke]

I was looking this up a bit ago before my last post.

if falcon/mac are town/town then i am sort of skeptical of nutella/jay in particular

anne being w clears nutella in my worldview tho, i just personally dont currently think anne is w (open to being wrong tho)

What would be the first thing to give you pause about an Anne vote

Look the main reason I find Anne towny is based on her disdain being in this game. I think she kind of doesn't like being town as much as being mafia so she's been quite annoyed with how this game has gone, specifically with how her reads have progressed this game.

Is this a meta view that you’d say is based on numerous incidents or more of a general idea you have of anne as a player

Thanks iaafr and LC I’ll ponder

[VOTE: Anne] aubergine

JJJ actively speaks to both myself and Rabbit, and says "Okay, I see you both have reasons to townread Anne, I'll think about it." Then 10 minutes later just votes Anne anyways. Like if she's his partner he could've easily said "These 2 townread Anne and I'm taking their word for it" and proceed to vote someone else.
Like I'm not sure why JJJ doesn't take that opportunity to keep his teammate alive.

[Esooa]

You didn't really frustrate me in poisoner

It was mostly sarcastic

[cassandra]

spf town

[iaafr]

anne may have been asked to be bussed for cred idk mang

[iaafr]

anne may have been asked to be bussed for cred idk mang

may have asked to have been*

[Esooa]

ok im pretty sure esooa and nutella are just outing

Are you really just gonna go back to tunneling for no reason like this?

[cassandra]

tbh this site is too hard to keep track of post count ill just take the mod kill or w.e lmfao

[iaafr]

obligatory i hate everybodys association reads but my own (and i hate my own too) post

retweet

[leetic]

ok im pretty sure esooa and nutella are just outing

Are you really just gonna go back to tunneling for no reason like this?

Can I see a defense against the points people are making against you? I know you've only been here a short time but you still found time to tinfoil like four separate people, it's the least you could do

[nutella]

no spf is my top townread so i need to know if im going crazy to think its weird random people like nutella think im scum

That's just how spf would say it too

I think nutella's sudden random scumread of you is weird af, and I don't buy it.

it is just healthy paranoia, she has had many strong scum games where unwitting townies bought into her whole schtick and she snowed them, so just be cautious with your confidence. i dont want to vote her or anything it's just some things are setting me off as similar to those games and im not letting them go without comment, so if you end up in f3 with her you can't say i didn't warn you

[Lime Coke]

obligatory i hate everybodys association reads but my own (and i hate my own too) post

retweet

You'll like mine in about 12 hours.

[Esooa]

ok im pretty sure esooa and nutella are just outing

Are you really just gonna go back to tunneling for no reason like this?

Can I see a defense against the points people are making against you? I know you've only been here a short time but you still found time to tinfoil like four separate people, it's the least you could do

No

[iaafr]

obligatory i hate everybodys association reads but my own (and i hate my own too) post

retweet

You'll like mine in about 12 hours.

not if theyre confbiasing my town as scum and confbiasing my scum as town i wont

but glgl

[cassandra]

im pretty sure nutella is just openwolfing right now same with esooa

[nutella]

fwiw i had some alexa paranoia before jay flipped maf but i mean nutella just ripped bong so its easier to suspect top town in that state (not joking)

also true

anyway alexa/marmot/lime idk what else to say, i think im reasonably obvtown by now with this whole thing and you'll see it eventually or some of you have ill intentions

[staypositivefriend]

i watched the entirety of the anime "BOFURI" with a friend tonight. it was extremely cute and extremely wholesome and had a shockingly high production value. would recommend.

probably gonna go to bed now. ill dive into the spew tomorrow and flesh out my POE a bit further. i'll be traveling back and forth this weekend so i might not have a ton of time to post, but i'll do my best

[nutella]

sloonei was scummy and esooa is scummy yeah lets just blast that slot tbh whos got an ita

[leetic]

ok im pretty sure esooa and nutella are just outing

Are you really just gonna go back to tunneling for no reason like this?

Can I see a defense against the points people are making against you? I know you've only been here a short time but you still found time to tinfoil like four separate people, it's the least you could do

No

Yeah you're full of shit. [VOTE: Esooa] aubergine Even my previous point for you can be rescinded given nutella's interaction, and you have not given me one indication you are town. nutella's still scummier but I would not mind going after this.

[iaafr]

yall so trigger happy on calling people lock scum

something something d1 scumflips are cursed

[Esooa]

ok im pretty sure esooa and nutella are just outing

Are you really just gonna go back to tunneling for no reason like this?

Can I see a defense against the points people are making against you? I know you've only been here a short time but you still found time to tinfoil like four separate people, it's the least you could do

No

Yeah you're full of shit. [VOTE: Esooa] aubergine Even my previous point for you can be rescinded given nutella's interaction, and you have not given me one indication you are town. nutella's still scummier but I would not mind going after this.

Your previous points are about Sloonei, lmfao

90% of the rest are "PoE cause they subbed in "

The only existing not-that reasons are Alexa going off because I didn't agree with her, and SPF saying that I am slightly tonally off in whatever way, I forgot

Extremely cringe

[nutella]

spf, do u think im sus or no

whats up with you acting like this and capslock hardclaiming lol

really reminds me of finale like i said before, ppl are like all town clearing you but you are still displaying nervousness and insecurity about it

can u give me a dissertation of how this remotely compares to finale

if you're town i'd like it to be 5000 words

idk search spec chat for the posts i pulled

you like faked town pov in certain manipulative ways and tried to shore up townreads on you im not sure how to describe it

[Lime Coke]

obligatory i hate everybodys association reads but my own (and i hate my own too) post

retweet

You'll like mine in about 12 hours.

not if theyre confbiasing my town as scum and confbiasing my scum as town i wont

but glgl

You act like you won't change your entire worldview like 4 times before the day ends.

[cassandra]

ok well

i know this isn't smart but it stresses me out rn to be on the chopping block

i'm a doctor except instead of saving someone, i save them for one cycle (so like, i went on spf then i switched to illartic - and if they were nightkilled they'd be poisoned instead)

anyway im super tired and a bit tipsy and it stresses me out to be on the chopping block, im a protective role

[Esooa]

ok well

i know this isn't smart but it stresses me out rn to be on the chopping block

i'm a doctor except instead of saving someone, i save them for one cycle (so like, i went on spf then i switched to illartic - and if they were nightkilled they'd be poisoned instead)

anyway im super tired and a bit tipsy and it stresses me out to be on the chopping block, im a protective role

I hate this game

[Lime Coke]

ok well

i know this isn't smart but it stresses me out rn to be on the chopping block

i'm a doctor except instead of saving someone, i save them for one cycle (so like, i went on spf then i switched to illartic - and if they were nightkilled they'd be poisoned instead)

anyway im super tired and a bit tipsy and it stresses me out to be on the chopping block, im a protective role

Stop, you're not on the chopping block.

[nutella]

ok im pretty sure esooa and nutella are just outing

this whole outing thing is so weird like cmon

youve seen me scum right? it's...not like this

[iaafr]

obligatory i hate everybodys association reads but my own (and i hate my own too) post

retweet

You'll like mine in about 12 hours.

not if theyre confbiasing my town as scum and confbiasing my scum as town i wont

but glgl

You act like you won't change your entire worldview like 4 times before the day ends.

first of all

nothing i said precludes that and youre just non sequituring to get a quip in

second of all

i might not, and even if i do, ur association reads will prob still have at least 1 misread and im gonna quote in postgame

[iaafr]

guys i think we should take cassandra off the chopping block

[cassandra]

i cant tell how to constantly look at vote counts on the syndiacate

[leetic]

ok im pretty sure esooa and nutella are just outing

Are you really just gonna go back to tunneling for no reason like this?

Can I see a defense against the points people are making against you? I know you've only been here a short time but you still found time to tinfoil like four separate people, it's the least you could do

No

Yeah you're full of shit. [VOTE: Esooa] aubergine Even my previous point for you can be rescinded given nutella's interaction, and you have not given me one indication you are town. nutella's still scummier but I would not mind going after this.

Your previous points are about Sloonei, lmfao

90% of the rest are "PoE cause they subbed in "

The only existing not-that reasons are Alexa going off because I didn't agree with her, and SPF saying that I am slightly tonally off in whatever way, I forgot

Extremely cringe

You have tried to go after me for basically no reason other than "wallpost", you've tried shading Mac with no explanation, you have a hedgy and overly convoluted nutella defense, nutella has given a number of strong indications of being partnered with you, I don't even care about Sloonei at this point because the evidence against you is so much stronger.

[NotAnAxehole]

ok im pretty sure esooa and nutella are just outing

Are you really just gonna go back to tunneling for no reason like this?

Can I see a defense against the points people are making against you? I know you've only been here a short time but you still found time to tinfoil like four separate people, it's the least you could do

No

Yeah you're full of shit. [VOTE: Esooa] aubergine Even my previous point for you can be rescinded given nutella's interaction, and you have not given me one indication you are town. nutella's still scummier but I would not mind going after this.

Your previous points are about Sloonei, lmfao

90% of the rest are "PoE cause they subbed in "

The only existing not-that reasons are Alexa going off because I didn't agree with her, and SPF saying that I am slightly tonally off in whatever way, I forgot

Extremely cringe

You're also mafia because you're voting someone who hammered scum... I don't know that I've ever seen you make that leap in logic. THOUGH... Me hammering my partner at EoD there would certainly play into this narrative that people are trying to shoehorn in that I'm a gAmEtHroWeR.

Ilario's read on me is actually super towny though, and amusing.

[iaafr]

idk if this has been showing through in my posts but all this lock scumming of nutella/esooa and the claims stuff has had me cackling pretty hard

[Lime Coke]

i cant tell how to constantly look at vote counts on the syndiacate

The only person that voted you, was yourself this day phase.