Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

[ilario]

But who am I misreading then

[staypositivefriend]

But who am I misreading then

i dunno, what do ur reads currently look like? if you post a list of ur reads then ill tell you where i think youre most likely misreading or misclearing

it'll have to be tomorrow tho cause i should have gone to bed like an hour ago

[iaafr]

my main concern with mac is he farts just way too much

[iaafr]

annenaamac

[MacDougall]

my main concern with mac is he farts just way too much

I'm gassy what can I say

[DrWilgy]

Oof. Sorry MR.

What's good homies?

[ilario]

But who am I misreading then

i dunno, what do ur reads currently look like? if you post a list of ur reads then ill tell you where i think youre most likely misreading or misclearing

it'll have to be tomorrow tho cause i should have gone to bed like an hour ago

Ummm I don’t think Alexa or lc ever busses jjj like that So they are town. I don’t think bunny hops off like that eod as mafia and gives up on easy towncred and when I was going over eod yesterday with leetic I found towny posts from iaafr and think he’s town.

Falcon is town regardless of macs alignment, I don’t think they’re scum together but I can see Mac using falcons inactivity and his habits of hard tunneling a read as someone who would be perfect to pocket and scumside while Mac just hides in scum chat manipulating him and talking about farts in the thread. I am somewhat exaggerating this scenario because of how annoying falcons read on me is lol and the fact that he just afks all game and decides as his only worthwhile contribution is to random tunnel me is just aggravating. I also think leetic mentioned somewhere that nook fossed Mac and the nook NK implies there’s probably Atleast one more syndicate regular in the scum team and Rn I think nutella is more towny than mac.

Anne I thought was town early on, read through her iso last night and still seemed fine to me. Idk if her interaction with jjj early game is a point in her favour or against her favour given that she is good at theatre as scum. Like I don’t get why she cares about jjjs read on her when they don’t have much experience together but other then that I think she’s been towny.

Naa won me over by his reaction to me today, but him only hunting for two scum when there’s 3 alive is a bit hmmmm

Leetic has a theory that Nutella might have tmi’d esooa as a partner but if that’s not the case then I can see a world where they’re both town. I had reservations about nutella after the flip yesterday but I think her posts today seem genuine and so do esooas and also I think if sloonei was maf with jjj d1 he would have Atleast made more of an effort. I get people can get busy irl but nobody is so busy that they can’t Atleast make a few decent posts. People don’t low post because they’re live is super busy, yes it plays a factor but if someone still cared about the outcome they’ll still put in some effort to post even if busy. I think sloonei would have felt as with jjj as his teammate. Also jjj made some post about saving his posts near eod to get to talk to sloonei and that didn’t feel partnery to me.

So yeah that leaves dizzy wilgy mac you even though you had posts I liked on d1 I also did find some stuff that felt off about u at times

[ilario]

Oh I forgot about marmot idk maybe he might be a blind spot who knows

[DrWilgy]

What about iaafr or Nutella. Talk to me about them.

[iaafr]

marmot iaafr and nutella are all obvious town

[iaafr]

wilgy if you are town you should want to kill into { anne naa mac esooa dizzy } with my emphasis on the first three

i almost wanna flip mac first to see if falcon could somehow be w/w there

[Lime Coke]

wilgy if you are town you should want to kill into { anne naa mac esooa dizzy } with my emphasis on the first three

i almost wanna flip mac first to see if falcon could somehow be w/w there

I'm not against a Mac flip currently.

[DrWilgy]

Hmm.. read Leetic's wall post. I like it. I skimmed lightly though JJJ's iso before making the MR shot decision. On that ISO alone I was torn between Nutella, Ifaar as a 50/50 or just shoot MR who he seemed to be waffley on. I just the latter, but can be down with a Nutella flip.

[DrWilgy]

Bruh I already shot lol

[iaafr]

Bruh I already shot lol

well i mean with votes too

if you end up flipping nutella villager today pls locktown me and sheep my poe

[DrWilgy]

Bruh I already shot lol

well i mean with votes too

if you end up flipping nutella villager today pls locktown me and sheep my poe

Ez.

I'm also down with a Mac flip.

[iaafr]

[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

[DrWilgy]

Idk, that JJJ yeet was solid. I think I did a good job clearing a slot that would cause us trouble at least in terms of PoE.

Get how I'll need to be pulled out of PoE eventually, but for now Nutella or Mac I wanna know.

[iaafr]

Idk, that JJJ yeet was solid. I think I did a good job clearing a slot that would cause us trouble at least in terms of PoE.

Get how I'll need to be pulled out of PoE eventually, but for now Nutella or Mac I wanna know.

i mean he was an ic but you couldnt have known that though

i like how youre framing the shot as a positive thing to assuage your own ego though, it's a towny pov

[Lime Coke]

Idk, that JJJ yeet was solid. I think I did a good job clearing a slot that would cause us trouble at least in terms of PoE.

Get how I'll need to be pulled out of PoE eventually, but for now Nutella or Mac I wanna know.

Ehh I don't think that slot would've caused us trouble solving wise if it was an IC.

[Lime Coke]

Jesus christ Rabbit get out of my head.

[DrWilgy]

*shrug* I did my best and have no regrets.

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

[iaafr]

yea it was a fine shot

im here telling you i think any of {anne naa mac} are currently superior votes to nutella in my head but u do u

going to sleep for real now gn glhf

[DrWilgy]

Ja it's like 4 am lol. Bedtime.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

dab

[MacDougall]

oh no I'm getting voted... how sad for me

[MacDougall]

yea it was a fine shot

im here telling you i think any of {anne naa mac} are currently superior votes to nutella in my head but u do u

going to sleep for real now gn glhf

that sure was a sudden turnaround on me... oh well

[Dyslexicon]

Nice job

[Dyslexicon]

IC getting shot lol we love to see it tbh

[Dyslexicon]

I have quite a lot of time on my hands today, and my goal is to read this whole fucking thing and come with whatever perspectives for whatever that's worth. I'm just going to pity myself some more for having the worst hangover ever.

[falcon45ca]

Mornin' y'all.




Any exciting developments? I'm mostly gonna skim the 8 pages from last night

[Esooa]

maybe Alexa is a wolf

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Anne] aubergine


Voting Mac here is still silly. His slot should resolve soon, and if it doesn't then it's a wagon worth exploring. But not D2

[falcon45ca]

NAA, Cass, Anne, ilario



I'm fine voting in this pool right now

[NotAnAxehole]

I don't understand why DrWilgy is still lying about his role?

[Esooa]

@TonyStarkPrime where's the iso links tho

[falcon45ca]

I don't understand why DrWilgy is still lying about his role?

You don't keep some things close to the chest, even with a role reveal? I know I do, I'm fine with Wilgy. MR wasn't a bad kill either

[cassandra]

The fact that I'm in your pool when I led the fucking CFD on JJJ feels outing to me.

I need to count my posts to see where I'm at before I say more, I'm just annoyed at this game. I've also literally hardclaimed weakened doctor. Idc if you're "green checked" you can die.

[NotAnAxehole]

I don't understand why DrWilgy is still lying about his role?

You don't keep some things close to the chest, even with a role reveal? I know I do, I'm fine with Wilgy. MR wasn't a bad kill either

Oh yeah, I misunderstood my own role actually, 2-4 am reading comprehension. I guess his claim is actually plausible

[falcon45ca]

Looking at anne's wagon

nutella has been pretty townie
DrWilgy is a mystery, but he shot MR, could be a townie shot (but roles aren't AI, so not confirming)
MR is now confirmed town
JJJ is now confirmed mafia
falcon is semi-cleared by Mac


I know JJJ was a CFD, but this wagon on anne doesn't really have the lookings of one that mafia pushed.

I think Anne's wagon looks like Anne's Maf

[TonyStarkPrime]

ISO links in intro (thanks marmot)

[Esooa]

Looking at anne's wagon

nutella has been pretty townie
DrWilgy is a mystery, but he shot MR, could be a townie shot (but roles aren't AI, so not confirming)
MR is now confirmed town
JJJ is now confirmed mafia
falcon is semi-cleared by Mac


I know JJJ was a CFD, but this wagon on anne doesn't really have the lookings of one that mafia pushed.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Top 4: cass, ilario/leetic, spf,
Bottom 4: Sloonsooa, Mac, anne, Dizzy

God, that bottom 4 is so weird.

Oh, nutella is also top 4

nutella looks like she's trying to shake the towncore tbh

@Marmot what's up with this

[cassandra]

Spf is probably my strongest townread, followed by illario/leertic (mainly because they called me 95%), iaafr, lime coke

Every time Esooa posts I want to call her outed mafia but I'm aware I need to read her posts with more scrutiny/less lazily

Marmot is prollllllly town. Falcon's posts suck but he was cleared by Mac so W/E

Not sure on dizzy yet but gth town.

Wilgy still feels bad and I don't like the MR shot at all. my immediate poe is Esooa Wilgy Nutella Mac Anne and if that doesn't contain at least 2/3 id be very surprised. If I townread one replace them with Dizzy.

[cassandra]

Oh I forgot about NAA
He's POE too but GTH town

Having a post cap on this site where it's so hard to count it sucks lol

[falcon45ca]

The fact that I'm in your pool when I led the fucking CFD on JJJ feels outing to me.

I need to count my posts to see where I'm at before I say more, I'm just annoyed at this game. I've also literally hardclaimed weakened doctor. Idc if you're "green checked" you can die.

Settle down a bit there, I just saw your hardclaim. No need to fly off the handle, my POE has been duly updated.




Dizzy is taking your place in my POE

[anne]

Okay, first of all it's impossible for me to engage with this thread when the majority of conversation happens at like 3 AM. Second of all, imma need you to take your votes off of me because it don't make no sense. I was distracted during the previous EOD and I actually went back and reread everything I missed from that, but unfortunately you guys posted up a storm today and I won't be at all re-reading that because it's too much.

So with that I say that we need to stop clearing everyone for "claims". Roles were randed before alignments in the setup so mafia could theoretically have any roles available to them. This isn't important to my point because I don't FOS anyone who has an open claim rn idt, but something to keep in mind. Second of all, I want Nutella to explain why she pushed me when I was not around and apparently continues to do so just based on my skimming? JJJ was extremely reluctant to TR me for a reason, because he knows I am town. Now if I had to guess, JJJ probably was townreading at least one of his buddies. I'd need to go back and reread his posts though to figure out exactly who he was townreading to begin with though.

Also iaafr keeps trying to shove me into a POE with NAA. We can't be teamed so you need to get over that, already your POE is flawed. The reason me and NAA can't be teamed is that if he were my partner I would not buss him and leave my vote up on him like that as mafia ever, it just doesn't happen. I am already anti-bussing to begin with, but I would not miss EOD as wolf knowing it's possible a partner goes over and do nothing to stop. Which is already a point in my favor why I can't be mafia with JJJ, but I acknowledge his wagon formed rather quickly so it doesn't really "count".

Anyways, I'm going to actually give some reads now. I think there was at least one mafia voting me at EOD, either Wigly or Nutella, maybe even both but might be unlikely due to JJJ's vote being on me. Cassandra is probably town for... emotional reasons I don't care to get into. Also she claimed her role for no reason which is rand v for her anyways. I think iaafr's approach to me today has been somewhat opportunistic and he won't even wait to see what I have to say at all, but I liked his day 1 so idk. Also I still think ilario/leetic are town, mostly cause of ilario now because I think leetic has dropped off. Also as I'm typing this, I'm wondering if it's possible Mac and Falcon are both mafia and share the same alignment similar to ilario/leetic? Anyways have a reads list

Ilario/Leetic
LimeCoke
Cassandra
Marmot
Mac
Dizzy
Falcon
SPF
iaafr
NAA
Nutella
Wigly

Not putting Esooa on the list because I haven't read a single one of her posts or Sloonei's posts.

[falcon45ca]

Okay, first of all it's impossible for me to engage with this thread when the majority of conversation happens at like 3 AM. Second of all, imma need you to take your votes off of me because it don't make no sense. I was distracted during the previous EOD and I actually went back and reread everything I missed from that, but unfortunately you guys posted up a storm today and I won't be at all re-reading that because it's too much.

So with that I say that we need to stop clearing everyone for "claims". Roles were randed before alignments in the setup so mafia could theoretically have any roles available to them. This isn't important to my point because I don't FOS anyone who has an open claim rn idt, but something to keep in mind. Second of all, I want Nutella to explain why she pushed me when I was not around and apparently continues to do so just based on my skimming? JJJ was extremely reluctant to TR me for a reason, because he knows I am town. Now if I had to guess, JJJ probably was townreading at least one of his buddies. I'd need to go back and reread his posts though to figure out exactly who he was townreading to begin with though.

Also iaafr keeps trying to shove me into a POE with NAA. We can't be teamed so you need to get over that, already your POE is flawed. The reason me and NAA can't be teamed is that if he were my partner I would not buss him and leave my vote up on him like that as mafia ever, it just doesn't happen. I am already anti-bussing to begin with, but I would not miss EOD as wolf knowing it's possible a partner goes over and do nothing to stop. Which is already a point in my favor why I can't be mafia with JJJ, but I acknowledge his wagon formed rather quickly so it doesn't really "count".

Anyways, I'm going to actually give some reads now. I think there was at least one mafia voting me at EOD, either Wigly or Nutella, maybe even both but might be unlikely due to JJJ's vote being on me. Cassandra is probably town for... emotional reasons I don't care to get into. Also she claimed her role for no reason which is rand v for her anyways. I think iaafr's approach to me today has been somewhat opportunistic and he won't even wait to see what I have to say at all, but I liked his day 1 so idk. Also I still think ilario/leetic are town, mostly cause of ilario now because I think leetic has dropped off. Also as I'm typing this, I'm wondering if it's possible Mac and Falcon are both mafia and share the same alignment similar to ilario/leetic? Anyways have a reads list

Ilario/Leetic
LimeCoke
Cassandra
Marmot
Mac
Dizzy
Falcon
SPF
iaafr
NAA
Nutella
Wigly

Not putting Esooa on the list because I haven't read a single one of her posts or Sloonei's posts.

Yeah this is wolfy.

[anne]

You didn't even read it

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[anne]

My theory grows stronger