How's that a towny post? With posts like that town isn't getting any closer to a solve
Also I don't know how many times I'll have to repeat this but the anne wagon still sucks
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How's that a towny post? With posts like that town isn't getting any closer to a solve
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
@Dyslexicon lmao this is Stuartleetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:00 pmHow's that a towny post? With posts like that town isn't getting any closer to a solve
Also I don't know how many times I'll have to repeat this but the anne wagon still sucks
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
@MacDougall Please answer thisDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:40 pm @MacDougall @falcon45ca
- Does your role dictate that mafia will know when you have used the investigation AND that they will know that you become lovers?
- Would you not become lovers if you didn't use the investigate?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
yeah something like thatDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:10 pm@MacDougall Please answer thisDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:40 pm @MacDougall @falcon45ca
- Does your role dictate that mafia will know when you have used the investigation AND that they will know that you become lovers?
- Would you not become lovers if you didn't use the investigate?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:11 pmpick one idc
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Because if you're town as well, the whole general direction of this game is kind of fucked.
Well if I had great ideas, I would say so. I could make shit up also, if I was mafia.
I loled.
No, be specific. And I want @falcon45ca to verify. This is important.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:12 pmyeah something like thatDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:10 pm@MacDougall Please answer thisDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:40 pm @MacDougall @falcon45ca
- Does your role dictate that mafia will know when you have used the investigation AND that they will know that you become lovers?
- Would you not become lovers if you didn't use the investigate?
No Marmot I don't think thatMarmot wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:14 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:11 pmpick one idc
So you think that all of the mafia (I'm assuming there's no more than 3 left at this point) are currently lined up as your wagon, and they are specifically ilario/leetic, NAA, and spf, and we chop those 3 and that's game?
I can't quote the role but I am pretty sure the mafia get alerted when we become lovers. Notwithstanding they know now so meh.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:19 pmNo, be specific. And I want @falcon45ca to verify. This is important.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:12 pmyeah something like thatDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:10 pm@MacDougall Please answer thisDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:40 pm @MacDougall @falcon45ca
- Does your role dictate that mafia will know when you have used the investigation AND that they will know that you become lovers?
- Would you not become lovers if you didn't use the investigate?
Does it say in your role that mafia will know you become lovers?
If you didn't become lovers without the investigate, did you ever contemplate just not using it?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:11 pmpick one idc
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:19 pmNo Marmot I don't think thatMarmot wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:14 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:11 pmpick one idc
So you think that all of the mafia (I'm assuming there's no more than 3 left at this point) are currently lined up as your wagon, and they are specifically ilario/leetic, NAA, and spf, and we chop those 3 and that's game?
I do think spf is probably only voting me because she's stuck for candidates though. I have nfi why the other two are.
lol i think youre voting ME because youre stuck for candidates, i dont believe that you came around to townreading me like 12 hours ago and are scumreading me magically again with no progression inbetweenMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:19 pmNo Marmot I don't think thatMarmot wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:14 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:11 pmpick one idc
So you think that all of the mafia (I'm assuming there's no more than 3 left at this point) are currently lined up as your wagon, and they are specifically ilario/leetic, NAA, and spf, and we chop those 3 and that's game?
I do think spf is probably only voting me because she's stuck for candidates though. I have nfi why the other two are.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
You can't quote your role, sure, but you can claim.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:21 pmI can't quote the role but I am pretty sure the mafia get alerted when we become lovers. Notwithstanding they know now so meh.
ive seen a couple of people say that they think mac is towny for his claim, but i dont really understand why. we know that claims arent tied to alignment and i dont think there's anything about his claim that he would be particularly ~unlikely~ to do as mafia. do you mind expanding on that a lil bit?nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:31 pm dunno why iaafr is voting me now lol we have like most of the same reads except for my spf paranoia really but he cant say anything so
im probably gonna end on anne, i keep getting caught up in thinking mac's claim really sounds like it comes from town pov but i really dont have reason to townread him on play
This so much. He's just saying "mafia is voting me because they want to get rid of lovers" and it's the worst. Mac can actually do stuff when he's town, and he's doing none of that here. He does a lot of treading water as mafia, which is what this looks like. But I kind of want some clarification from Falcon regarding how their role actually works, cause it's still confusing to me.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:32 pmim more interested in seeing mac genuinely scumhunt, which i do not feel like he has
Then just vote me out dude... you're getting the best of me you're getting for now. Either be patient or just wagon me.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:36 pmThis so much. He's just saying "mafia is voting me because they want to get rid of lovers" and it's the worst. Mac can actually do stuff when he's town, and he's doing none of that here. He does a lot of treading water as mafia, which is what this looks like. But I kind of want some clarification from Falcon regarding how their role actually works, cause it's still confusing to me.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:32 pmim more interested in seeing mac genuinely scumhunt, which i do not feel like he has
i think theres some nuances to the way hes talked about it perspective-wise that just feel genuine to me, like for instance about the mafia supposedly finding out and stuff, idk if i can explain tbh but i could just be easily fooled by that kind of thing and hes done nothing else towny so meh. and when he was initially claiming how he waited for falcon to show up but went ahead and used it anyway, i found that pretty sus. whats particularly weird to me is that falcon isnt questioning him at all, maybe because he appears solvey in the neighbor chat but he could be pocketedstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:32 pmive seen a couple of people say that they think mac is towny for his claim, but i dont really understand why. we know that claims arent tied to alignment and i dont think there's anything about his claim that he would be particularly ~unlikely~ to do as mafia. do you mind expanding on that a lil bit?nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:31 pm dunno why iaafr is voting me now lol we have like most of the same reads except for my spf paranoia really but he cant say anything so
im probably gonna end on anne, i keep getting caught up in thinking mac's claim really sounds like it comes from town pov but i really dont have reason to townread him on play
im more interested in seeing mac genuinely scumhunt, which i do not feel like he has
It's my understanding that the Maf were alerted when we became Lovers, but not our identities...which is most nowDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:19 pmNo, be specific. And I want @falcon45ca to verify. This is important.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:12 pmyeah something like thatDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:10 pm@MacDougall Please answer thisDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:40 pm @MacDougall @falcon45ca
- Does your role dictate that mafia will know when you have used the investigation AND that they will know that you become lovers?
- Would you not become lovers if you didn't use the investigate?
Does it say in your role that mafia will know you become lovers?
If you didn't become lovers without the investigate, did you ever contemplate just not using it?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Look at it this way...whats the point of the Maf finding out when we become Lovers if one of us is already Maf?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:36 pmThis so much. He's just saying "mafia is voting me because they want to get rid of lovers" and it's the worst. Mac can actually do stuff when he's town, and he's doing none of that here. He does a lot of treading water as mafia, which is what this looks like. But I kind of want some clarification from Falcon regarding how their role actually works, cause it's still confusing to me.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:32 pmim more interested in seeing mac genuinely scumhunt, which i do not feel like he has
That's a question for our hoststaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:40 pm if roles arent tied to alignments, then why was the mafia presumably informed when mac and falcon became lovers? if the roles are written to be alignment-neutral then it doesnt really make sense to me that a condition of their role would be: "the mafia will find out when you do X", but maybe i shouldnt think about it
flail harder nerdstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:40 pm if roles arent tied to alignments, then why was the mafia presumably informed when mac and falcon became lovers? if the roles are written to be alignment-neutral then it doesnt really make sense to me that a condition of their role would be: "the mafia will find out when you do X", but maybe i shouldnt think about it
well that's what i'm confused about, because the roles are supposed to be alignment neutral. why would a part of your role be: "the mafia will find out once you become lovers" if the roles are not supposed to be suggestive of alignment?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:40 pmLook at it this way...whats the point of the Maf finding out when we become Lovers if one of us is already Maf?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:36 pmThis so much. He's just saying "mafia is voting me because they want to get rid of lovers" and it's the worst. Mac can actually do stuff when he's town, and he's doing none of that here. He does a lot of treading water as mafia, which is what this looks like. But I kind of want some clarification from Falcon regarding how their role actually works, cause it's still confusing to me.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:32 pmim more interested in seeing mac genuinely scumhunt, which i do not feel like he has
all i hear is howlingMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:41 pmflail harder nerdstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:40 pm if roles arent tied to alignments, then why was the mafia presumably informed when mac and falcon became lovers? if the roles are written to be alignment-neutral then it doesnt really make sense to me that a condition of their role would be: "the mafia will find out when you do X", but maybe i shouldnt think about it
I'm not the one who's voting anne for basically no reason. But go on ahead, I don't really buy arguments from other people that "x player never does this as mafia" or "b player always does this as town" because 1. people can learn from their past mistakes, 2. these arguments often reflect the biases of the person making them, and 3. a skilled player can fake all this anyway and I'd like to assume we're not bad players. JJJ was nothing like his scum game in the game I hosted where he was scum, but it didn't stop him from being scum. The reasons to scumread nutella are largely based around Jay interactions and how she dealt with the threadstate at EoD. This is more reliable because wolves can fake effort, they can fake emotion, but wolves will not generally make blatantly suboptimal plays. nutella only really defended Jay after I made it safe to do so by stating Jay was unlike his last wolf game, and the way she popped in to say she was alright with a Jay vote, but not actually change her vote in case anne picked up again, and her willingness to try to pick up an anne wagon again today with barely an acknowledgement it was confirmed to be wolfy. These are all stronger pieces of evidence against her than anything for her, and I still don't like her interaction with Esooa, and her contributions today are largely tinfoiling which doesn't help town. I also don't like how she seems to be added to the towncore alongside players like Lime Coke, Marmot, and cass who all have much stronger reasons to be townread. nutella seems like she might have an important role though, so I may be more willing to vote you or Esooa over her today, but you can't deny that nutella has had many wolfy moments this game.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:17 pmWell if I had great ideas, I would say so. I could make shit up also, if I was mafia.
Better to be open about being unsure than tunnelling on town all game like you are with me =)
Instead of hating everything I'm doing without trying to understand, why don't you engage with my reasons for town reading Nutella, since you are scum reading her?
*gestures broadly at the setup*staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:42 pm either the setup is broken or theyre bullshitting about the mafia finding out that theyre lovers
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:40 pm if roles arent tied to alignments, then why was the mafia presumably informed when mac and falcon became lovers? if the roles are written to be alignment-neutral then it doesnt really make sense to me that a condition of their role would be: "the mafia will find out when you do X", but maybe i shouldnt think about it
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
I don't know. I can only confirm what Mac is telling you about our role.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:41 pmwell that's what i'm confused about, because the roles are supposed to be alignment neutral. why would a part of your role be: "the mafia will find out once you become lovers" if the roles are not supposed to be suggestive of alignment?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:40 pmLook at it this way...whats the point of the Maf finding out when we become Lovers if one of us is already Maf?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:36 pmThis so much. He's just saying "mafia is voting me because they want to get rid of lovers" and it's the worst. Mac can actually do stuff when he's town, and he's doing none of that here. He does a lot of treading water as mafia, which is what this looks like. But I kind of want some clarification from Falcon regarding how their role actually works, cause it's still confusing to me.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:32 pmim more interested in seeing mac genuinely scumhunt, which i do not feel like he has
just pretend to townread me and we will go away and you won't have to worry about us anymore... amazing stuff!MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:42 pm emagherd if you nerds just let this play out the way I wanted I'd be killed by mafia without trying which would be hilar
alright, its probably not worth reading into thenMarmot wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:43 pmstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:40 pm if roles arent tied to alignments, then why was the mafia presumably informed when mac and falcon became lovers? if the roles are written to be alignment-neutral then it doesnt really make sense to me that a condition of their role would be: "the mafia will find out when you do X", but maybe i shouldnt think about it
My role also has a clause written in it based on whether I rand town or mafia, so it doesn't surprise me that theirs would too.
the mafia will be alerted when this role is activated but not who has it.Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:43 pmstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:40 pm if roles arent tied to alignments, then why was the mafia presumably informed when mac and falcon became lovers? if the roles are written to be alignment-neutral then it doesnt really make sense to me that a condition of their role would be: "the mafia will find out when you do X", but maybe i shouldnt think about it
My role also has a clause written in it based on whether I rand town or mafia, so it doesn't surprise me that theirs would too.
Yeah but this is mafia so you should find wolves, not just survive.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:44 pmjust pretend to townread me and we will go away and you won't have to worry about us anymore... amazing stuff!MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:42 pm emagherd if you nerds just let this play out the way I wanted I'd be killed by mafia without trying which would be hilar
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.