Akemi Homura Mafia [Town Win]

[MacDougall]

My Playstyle ain’t destructive to town.
I’m talking and all everyone else has to do is talk back to Gavial.
Share with Gavial.
Open up with Gavial.
Gavial will hard carry.

As long as you refuse to recognise the truth of this sentiment you will continue to contribute to town losses.

[Gavial]

I’ve decided to give Mac I chance.
I figure if he’s town Paopan flips Wolf even though I believe he town slipped and is obvious town.

If he flips town which Paopan most likely will, it’ll show that you guys shouldn’t doubt Gavial and Mac’s reads aren’t any better.
Of course Mac can easily and is probably scum here but still.

[Gavial]

I still think he’s wolf but since only Wilgy is there with me but also scum reads me I need to make it clear that Mac is wolf and it ain’t with me.

[Gavial]

My Playstyle ain’t destructive to town.
I’m talking and all everyone else has to do is talk back to Gavial.
Share with Gavial.
Open up with Gavial.
Gavial will hard carry.

As long as you refuse to recognise the truth of this sentiment you will continue to contribute to town losses.

Ok is it wrong to take up allot of thread presence then mostly anyone else?

[MacDougall]

I’ve decided to give Mac I chance.
<snip>
Of course Mac can easily and is probably scum here but still.

Yes you sound like you are "giving me a chance".

I've asked you a lot of questions in my wall. Have you read it?

[Gavial]

Dude could you fix your wall my eyes hurt!

[MacDougall]

My Playstyle ain’t destructive to town.
I’m talking and all everyone else has to do is talk back to Gavial.
Share with Gavial.
Open up with Gavial.
Gavial will hard carry.

As long as you refuse to recognise the truth of this sentiment you will continue to contribute to town losses.

Ok is it wrong to take up allot of thread presence then mostly anyone else?

No but it is wrong to become obsessed with one read, ignore everyone including your townreads, create a gamestate that revolves around it preflip and refuse to humour any reads that don't fit that worldview... and THEN to take up a lot of thread presence.

Even when you are right you won't get your way because you'll alienate the town.

[MacDougall]

Dude could you fix your wall my eyes hurt!

Read the post below it.

[Gavial]

Remove that Vote thing it’s too bright and hard to read.
I’ll read it if you do, I’ll work with you, for now.

[MacDougall]

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 50#p876299

[Gavial]

I’m busy rn, I’ll hopefully get to it later I promise.

[falcon45ca]

If Gav's solve is so good, surely he'll be NKd.



There's no way Maf will do town that favour tho

[MacDougall]

if I was mafia I'd never kill him here lol

he might die because i am town tho

[falcon45ca]

Town: falcon, LC, MissC

Probably Town: Mac, Wilgy

Null: Porsch, CR


POE: Pao, MightyQ, Gav

[falcon45ca]

Town: falcon, LC, MissC

Probably Town: Mac, Wilgy

Null: Porsch, CR


POE: Pao, MightyQ, Gav

Actually, get rid of the Null.


CR goes to Probably, Porscha goes to POE

[CRichard]

If Gav's solve is so good, surely he'll be NKd.



There's no way Maf will do town that favour tho

We'll find out in the next 39 minutes.

[CRichard]

If Gav's solve is so good, surely he'll be NKd.



There's no way Maf will do town that favour tho

If Mac is town and onto any of the mafia, they probably get NKed.
I would know, they got night killed off site while alting.

[CRichard]

So I'm treating Mac as self resolving, which is weird in a mountainous game yet it is what it is.

[MacDougall]

I don't feel likely to die here.

[CRichard]

I don't feel likely to die here.

Time to find out in 2 minutes.

[Gavial]

Town: falcon, LC, MissC

Probably Town: Mac, Wilgy

Null: Porsch, CR


POE: Pao, MightyQ, Gav

Actually, get rid of the Null.


CR goes to Probably, Porscha goes to POE

Lol your reads. I’m still a bit busy but I’ll try and look at that wall post made by Mac.

I’m actually more sus of Falcon now over Richard because he calls me town and he wants to PR me but is now saying I’m scum lol.

[MacDougall]

Town: falcon, LC, MissC

Probably Town: Mac, Wilgy

Null: Porsch, CR


POE: Pao, MightyQ, Gav

Actually, get rid of the Null.


CR goes to Probably, Porscha goes to POE

Lol your reads. I’m still a bit busy but I’ll try and look at that wall post made by Mac.

I’m actually more sus of Falcon now over Richard because he calls me town and he wants to PR me but is now saying I’m scum lol.

Being in the POE =/= being a scumread

[Alison]

Lime Coke killed, VT, more later. Busy right now, sorry.

[MacDougall]

Lol the person the entire game was townreading. Shocker.

[MacDougall]

Mac and Falcon are probably both town.

So with those 2 plus Miss Carousel that's a good 3 person towncore.

rip towncore

[MacDougall]

lime coke dying moves my worldview = 0

[MacDougall]

pretty much just refuse to believe that anyone LC was townreading is mafia now

[Gavial]

@MacDougall

This is all I could get RN.
I’ll do the rest later if I get more time

[Gavial]

Mac said:
“Identifying the strongest potential town in the game and then voting them with your first post is not pro town. As someone else said, I self resolve as town when everyone just townreads me.”

My response:
Just as town you are just as good of a wolf.
You treated my first post as if I was completely locked in which I wasn’t I was just closely watching you and trying to pressure you for your alignment because that’s how you can self resolve.
If everyone town reads you, you can easily be wolf you don’t self resolve as town you self resolve for your own WinCon to victory regardless of what alignment you may be on.


Mac said:
“But if I am town it is very good. This is again just bad tactics for the aforementioned reasons.”

My Response:
That’s IF.
Think about this, let’s say Scotty for example was playing.
Let’s say he’s wolf, let’s say he’s in your slot and your in mine.
What do you do when you know he can easily pull off the win here as wolf.

Mac said:
“If Crich is town, is this still a bad thing? If not, then it's only bad because Crich is mafia, so I am Crich's partner? But I am also Falcon's partner? Or are you saying I am TMIing Crich as town? Which is it?”

My Response:
You be scum with him but I also see Falcon with him but I can also see you with Falcon. Due to your actions no world has been dropped there which is bad for town.

Mac said:
“At multiple times during day 1 you had viable reasons to go with me and scumread Wilgy but you stopped short and instead just handled him with kid gloves? Why?”

My Response:
Because you literally called both people who voted you is scum!! That’s why!
I had no reasons to go with you, I didn’t see anything wolfy about Wilgy but I did see wolfy things regarding you.
Why would I scum read someone that shouldn’t be scum read? Your read is bad, it’s basically “PL due to emoji posting” which is wrong.

Mac said:
“I have a question, how does your decision making affect a pro town outcome in the world where the mafia are just among the regular posters like in the majority of games?”

My response:
Game state. Simply put.
I look how others treated me and you and evaluate from there, because I’ll be the only super strong one left I’ll be able to figure it out no problem and lead the thread with full control!
I’ll take down those “Regular Posters”.

[Gavial]

Lol the person the entire game was townreading. Shocker.

Yeah your “strong town” also the one person who agreed with me for one post during SoN1

[Gavial]

pretty much just refuse to believe that anyone LC was townreading is mafia now

I mean?
Who else dies? Lol?
Sure not me or you.

[Gavial]

Anyway, GTG

[MacDougall]

Okay Gavial LC just died and me, Falcon and someone else were his towncore. What is the agenda of Falcon and I killing LC rather than just killing you or anyone but the person that tried to help me kill Wilgy and hard mac sided the entirety of day 1?

[MacDougall]

pretty much just refuse to believe that anyone LC was townreading is mafia now

I mean?
Who else dies? Lol?
Sure not me or you.

In a world in which I am mafia, LC would have been the last person I would have killed. He tried to chop Wilgy but voted too late. He had me in his towncore. There is zero purpose to it.

That kill makes me reevaluate none but it sure as fuck should make you reevaluate. Read the legacy LC left behind.

[CRichard]

That's an interesting kill.
I should look at how LC was treated by the thread, as I had them as town in my legacy.

[MacDougall]

Mac said:
“Identifying the strongest potential town in the game and then voting them with your first post is not pro town. As someone else said, I self resolve as town when everyone just townreads me.”

My response:
Just as town you are just as good of a wolf.
You treated my first post as if I was completely locked in which I wasn’t No I didn't. Not until you kept tunneling me. I just argued with the logic of it.I was just closely watching you and trying to pressure you for your alignment because that’s how you can self resolve.
If everyone town reads you literally never happens when I am mafia because I am not a hard read, you can easily be wolf you don’t self resolve as town wrongyou self resolve for your own WinCon to victory regardless of what alignment you may be on not correct i wolfed in the very last game that ended on ts and got chopped d2 with little trouble.


Mac said:
“But if I am town it is very good. This is again just bad tactics for the aforementioned reasons.”

My Response:
That’s IF.
Think about this, let’s say Scotty for example was playing.
Let’s say he’s wolf, let’s say he’s in your slot and your in mine.
What do you do when you know he can easily pull off the win here as wolf.

read him on merits like I do in every game with everyone. See if I vibe his pushes. See if he pushes a wolfy agenda.

Mac said:
“If Crich is town, is this still a bad thing? If not, then it's only bad because Crich is mafia, so I am Crich's partner? But I am also Falcon's partner? Or are you saying I am TMIing Crich as town? Which is it?”

My Response:
You be scum with him but I also see Falcon with him but I can also see you with Falcon. Due to your actions no world has been dropped there which is bad for town.

You are the one that pushed over the town 0 poster. There is only one person with demonstrably negative actions here so far.

Mac said:
“At multiple times during day 1 you had viable reasons to go with me and scumread Wilgy but you stopped short and instead just handled him with kid gloves? Why?”

My Response:
Because you literally called both people who voted you is scum!! That’s why!
I had no reasons to go with you, I didn’t see anything wolfy about Wilgy but I did see wolfy things regarding you.
Why would I scum read someone that shouldn’t be scum read? Your read is bad, it’s basically “PL due to emoji posting” which is wrong.

Wolves that push me for bad reasons when I am being towny is a very common thing. Due to the way others are reading me (such as the dead town LC) I am led to believe I am being pretty obvious town here. Also I told you why I scumread Wilgy and it was for better reasons than that. Why I voted him to begin with yes, but that was trying to get him to reveal more about his alignment.

Mac said:
“I have a question, how does your decision making affect a pro town outcome in the world where the mafia are just among the regular posters like in the majority of games?”

My response:
Game state. Simply put.
I look how others treated me and you and evaluate from there, because I’ll be the only super strong one left I’ll be able to figure it out no problem and lead the thread with full control!
I’ll take down those “Regular Posters”.

Do you genuinely think if somehow you flip me here as town that you can carry the game the rest of the way?

[MacDougall]

I am just wondering at what point I need to just stop assuming I am talking to a misguided town and just assume you're just an unusual mafia archetype. The gavial effect doesn't help me make a read on you here.

[MacDougall]

@DrWilgy what is your current take on affairs?

[MacDougall]

That's an interesting kill.
I should look at how LC was treated by the thread, as I had them as town in my legacy.

He was townread by practically everybody. His reads were Falcon, Mac town. MightyQ got a pass. You know this because you quoted his towncore post and tried to add gavial and yourself to it.

[Alison]

Poll is now up, sorry about that. Got unexpectedly busy.

[falcon45ca]

That's an interesting kill.
I should look at how LC was treated by the thread, as I had them as town in my legacy.

Wolfy

[CRichard]

That's an interesting kill.
I should look at how LC was treated by the thread, as I had them as town in my legacy.

He was townread by practically everybody. His reads were Falcon, Mac town. MightyQ got a pass. You know this because you quoted his towncore post and tried to add gavial and yourself to it.

Yeah it could be down to killing the townie who can't be lynched.

[Gavial]

Why like Mac’s response to my post but at the same time want to refuse to accept some of what he says?

[CRichard]

Unless someone can tell me if there are better options than resolving the D1 wagons on Wilgy, that's where my vote will be going.
To be clear, Wilgy's vote on Sig can be chalked up to self preservation, yet the fact that 1. The wagons were close in number of votes and 2. The 0 poster went over thanks to Pao and Gav's votes leads me to think that if Wilgy is mafia, then Paopan/Gav would contain the last wolf.

[Gavial]

He said “misguided town” on me, is that is town tell?

[Gavial]

No no no Gavial your being silly that can easily be a perceptive slip that he’s wolf.

[Gavial]

But Gavial you know Paopan is town.

[Gavial]

Yes but Mac doesn’t see that and is probably wolf

[CRichard]

He said “misguided town” on me, is that is town tell?

Hmm is this for me?
No idea, though I'm still disappointed that out of all the options you proposed it was a 0 poster.
That being said, we still have a game to play.

[Gavial]

Well Gavial would you rather to Ml’s or will you vote a town member to help others see what you see