Akemi Homura Mafia [Town Win]

[Gavial]

I wanna feel important!

[falcon45ca]

I wanna feel important!

Vanity

[Gavial]

I wanna feel important!

Vanity

Vanity is the excessive belief in one's own abilities or attractiveness to others. Prior to the 14th century it did not have such narcissistic undertones, and merely meant futility.

[Paopan]

@MacDougall
@Paopan

What you two thinking?
Is CRichard and Por for sure clear?

CRichard and Wilgy theoretically could have been doing W/W wagon day 1.
Now with the wagon last day, Paopan called Por scum and voted for them, Wilgy voted for Paopan but then voted for Por to save them self.

Could that be W/W wagon?

What’s more likely?

I wanna say CRichard is the more likely one to not be W/W but I want a second opinion on this.

Por is clear. CRich not yet for me.

[MacDougall]

Yes they can both still be mafia.

Are they? Probably not.

Could I have a list from you that has most to least likely town?

I read Wilgy's iso and he's made an effort to spew everyone clear to some degree. He solidly kept Falcon in his townlist the entire game in spite of Falcon pushing him. Given how washed he was I would have expected him to try to spew him.

Essentially I have no idea of an order. There's still work to do.

[falcon45ca]

Yes they can both still be mafia.

Are they? Probably not.

Could I have a list from you that has most to least likely town?

I read Wilgy's iso and he's made an effort to spew everyone clear to some degree. He solidly kept Falcon in his townlist the entire game in spite of Falcon pushing him. Given how washed he was I would have expected him to try to spew him.

Essentially I have no idea of an order. There's still work to do.

I feel like Wilgy paid very little attention to MissC. A couple blind town reads w/o follow up or push.


Take a look and see if you notice it as well

[Miss Carousel]

sig is a fucking insane kill here. i'm not voting gavial or mac today because i'm not knocking out the most active players on d1 of a mountainous game. CR almost qualifies for this even though i scumlean him because he is participating in the thread and is helpful for us if town, but i'm still fine killing him today.

killing sig makes no god damn sense. cool, 20% chance we hit a wolf with a completely blind shot. if we hit a town we literally gain the least information possible and we just lose a kill for no reason. it's a complete unforced error. killing sig is a completely -ev play

I see... Well CR pinged me earlier. I'll entertain that.

[VOTE: CR] aubergine

this is a dogshit post if me and wilgy are partnered lol

[falcon45ca]

MissC, Pao



I'll look at other worlds after those two flips. Feels like the solve tho

[Miss Carousel]

replying to your partner making a real post with "huh i see....." to vote a ml with them is pure braindead. the much simpler explanation is that he's setting up to say he was following me if we flip CR town

[Miss Carousel]

MissC, Pao



I'll look at other worlds after those two flips. Feels like the solve tho

say some words about MightyQ

[falcon45ca]

sig is a fucking insane kill here. i'm not voting gavial or mac today because i'm not knocking out the most active players on d1 of a mountainous game. CR almost qualifies for this even though i scumlean him because he is participating in the thread and is helpful for us if town, but i'm still fine killing him today.

killing sig makes no god damn sense. cool, 20% chance we hit a wolf with a completely blind shot. if we hit a town we literally gain the least information possible and we just lose a kill for no reason. it's a complete unforced error. killing sig is a completely -ev play

I see... Well CR pinged me earlier. I'll entertain that.

[VOTE: CR] aubergine

this is a dogshit post if me and wilgy are partnered lol

Interesting that you're upset at the Sig kill, of which Wilgy was a part, but don't push his slot

[falcon45ca]

MissC, Pao



I'll look at other worlds after those two flips. Feels like the solve tho

say some words about MightyQ

I've got nothing really, they're pretty firmly null for me rn


I'll give them an ISO

[Miss Carousel]

sig is a fucking insane kill here. i'm not voting gavial or mac today because i'm not knocking out the most active players on d1 of a mountainous game. CR almost qualifies for this even though i scumlean him because he is participating in the thread and is helpful for us if town, but i'm still fine killing him today.

killing sig makes no god damn sense. cool, 20% chance we hit a wolf with a completely blind shot. if we hit a town we literally gain the least information possible and we just lose a kill for no reason. it's a complete unforced error. killing sig is a completely -ev play

I see... Well CR pinged me earlier. I'll entertain that.

[VOTE: CR] aubergine

this is a dogshit post if me and wilgy are partnered lol

Interesting that you're upset at the Sig kill, of which Wilgy was a part, but don't push his slot

the way he self pres'd is perfectly acceptable as town. (it was 2/2/2, he was the second wagon, and he was voting the third already.) i didn't and still don't really consider him responsible for sig's death in the same way as gav and pao

[falcon45ca]

sig is a fucking insane kill here. i'm not voting gavial or mac today because i'm not knocking out the most active players on d1 of a mountainous game. CR almost qualifies for this even though i scumlean him because he is participating in the thread and is helpful for us if town, but i'm still fine killing him today.

killing sig makes no god damn sense. cool, 20% chance we hit a wolf with a completely blind shot. if we hit a town we literally gain the least information possible and we just lose a kill for no reason. it's a complete unforced error. killing sig is a completely -ev play

I see... Well CR pinged me earlier. I'll entertain that.

[VOTE: CR] aubergine

this is a dogshit post if me and wilgy are partnered lol

Interesting that you're upset at the Sig kill, of which Wilgy was a part, but don't push his slot

the way he self pres'd is perfectly acceptable as town. (it was 2/2/2, he was the second wagon, and he was voting the third already.) i didn't and still don't really consider him responsible for sig's death in the same way as gav and pao

See, I agree that his self pres wasn't damming in and if itself, and I said as much.


But you never really revisit his slot at all, and then vote someone not on the Sig wagon.


I find it suspicious. Frankly I feel you both used kid gloves on each other

[falcon45ca]

MightyQ has some...strange posts. The 2nd one...I don't get it.



Yeah there's scum equity there, but they just feel like...confused town

[Miss Carousel]

i would imagine wilgy didn't want to push me because i was pretty universally townread up until eod2 and i was townreading him and the simplest thing to do is just let the universally townread player who is townreading you keep doing so.

i had like 4 people at least that i preferred over wilgy yesterday and was clearly absent from the game for a while so i wasn't really going to reevaluate yesterday. had he stayed alive and we flipped porscha town obviously today is a different case.

[falcon45ca]

According to my Fitbit, I have burned 9K calories today.



Yippi ki ya muthafucka

[falcon45ca]

i would imagine wilgy didn't want to push me because i was pretty universally townread up until eod2 and i was townreading him and the simplest thing to do is just let the universally townread player who is townreading you keep doing so.

i had like 4 people at least that i preferred over wilgy yesterday and was clearly absent from the game for a while so i wasn't really going to reevaluate yesterday. had he stayed alive and we flipped porscha town obviously today is a different case.

OK. I'm not diametrically opposed to you being town.


You must be able to see your partner equity w/ Wilgy tho

[MacDougall]

Yes they can both still be mafia.

Are they? Probably not.

Could I have a list from you that has most to least likely town?

I read Wilgy's iso and he's made an effort to spew everyone clear to some degree. He solidly kept Falcon in his townlist the entire game in spite of Falcon pushing him. Given how washed he was I would have expected him to try to spew him.

Essentially I have no idea of an order. There's still work to do.

I feel like Wilgy paid very little attention to MissC. A couple blind town reads w/o follow up or push.


Take a look and see if you notice it as well

I kinda just feel like she's town tbh. I've felt Paopan was pretty anti town most of the game.

[falcon45ca]

Yes they can both still be mafia.

Are they? Probably not.

Could I have a list from you that has most to least likely town?

I read Wilgy's iso and he's made an effort to spew everyone clear to some degree. He solidly kept Falcon in his townlist the entire game in spite of Falcon pushing him. Given how washed he was I would have expected him to try to spew him.

Essentially I have no idea of an order. There's still work to do.

I feel like Wilgy paid very little attention to MissC. A couple blind town reads w/o follow up or push.


Take a look and see if you notice it as well

I kinda just feel like she's town tbh. I've felt Paopan was pretty anti town most of the game.

Well, Pao is in my solve too. Thoughts on MightyQ?



Their ISO is strange

[MacDougall]

aside from one time Wilgy tried to bring them to attention and push them it's a complete null.

[Alison]

MacDougall has died. He was Moemura (Vanilla Town).

Day 3 starts now.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Pao] aubergine

[Porscha]

What's your take on Porscha & Pao now?

a wilgy/porscha team hard bussed each other resulting in wilgy's death when they had opportunities to try and save him (they were competing wagons but probably with enough time in the day to have done something) so it looks unlikely, though if i get outside of the obvious poe (pao, you, MQ) somebody HAS to be bussing and i might come back to porscha being the most likely.

i went through pao's ISO on this page and gave opinions on their content. i think they're the easy kill today. i already wanted pao dead yesterday, and i think the way wilgy and pao talked about each other but didn't really commit to wanting each other dead does pao no favors.

By hard bussed each other, do you mean we are both wolf and hard scum read each other as a tactic that backfired into us being in a tied vote?

my top 3 scum reads all game in order have been:
wilgy
pao
falcon

glad I still voted for him day 2 after missing my chance day 1 to make the difference. I am glad I was not persuaded off of him, but also annoyed with pao that he randomly hard pushed to have me voted off, as it felt like retaliation against me scum reading him all game

[Gavial]

MacDougall has died. He was Moemura (Vanilla Town).

Day 3 starts now.

Ah yes.
Ok time for me to stick it up a bit!

We are going Falcon. I’m pretty confident in my town read on Paopan.

[Miss Carousel]

Yes they can both still be mafia.

Are they? Probably not.

Could I have a list from you that has most to least likely town?

I read Wilgy's iso and he's made an effort to spew everyone clear to some degree. He solidly kept Falcon in his townlist the entire game in spite of Falcon pushing him. Given how washed he was I would have expected him to try to spew him.

Essentially I have no idea of an order. There's still work to do.

I feel like Wilgy paid very little attention to MissC. A couple blind town reads w/o follow up or push.


Take a look and see if you notice it as well

I kinda just feel like she's town tbh. I've felt Paopan was pretty anti town most of the game.

MacDougall has died. He was Moemura (Vanilla Town).

Day 3 starts now.

[Gavial]

I still have the paranoia that one of CRichard or Porscha is actually scum.

[Miss Carousel]

What's your take on Porscha & Pao now?

a wilgy/porscha team hard bussed each other resulting in wilgy's death when they had opportunities to try and save him (they were competing wagons but probably with enough time in the day to have done something) so it looks unlikely, though if i get outside of the obvious poe (pao, you, MQ) somebody HAS to be bussing and i might come back to porscha being the most likely.

i went through pao's ISO on this page and gave opinions on their content. i think they're the easy kill today. i already wanted pao dead yesterday, and i think the way wilgy and pao talked about each other but didn't really commit to wanting each other dead does pao no favors.

By hard bussed each other, do you mean we are both wolf and hard scum read each other as a tactic that backfired into us being in a tied vote?

my top 3 scum reads all game in order have been:
wilgy
pao
falcon

glad I still voted for him day 2 after missing my chance day 1 to make the difference. I am glad I was not persuaded off of him, but also annoyed with pao that he randomly hard pushed to have me voted off, as it felt like retaliation against me scum reading him all game

not backfired, i mean that if you are wolves together you just bussed very very very hard and were not afraid of one of you dying

[Gavial]

@Paopan
@CRichard
@MightyQ
@falcon45ca
@Porscha
@Miss Carousel

I’d like to request you all to make your full reads from most confident to least confident.
Here’s mine:
Paopan
Porscha
CRichard
Miss Caro
MightyQ
Falcon

[Gavial]

Hey does anyone know if there is anything that proves CRichard couldn’t have bussed Wilgy?

Like Wilgy joined my vote on the zero poster instead of allowing it to tie between him and CRichard.

[Miss Carousel]

@Paopan
@CRichard
@MightyQ
@falcon45ca
@Porscha
@Miss Carousel

I’d like to request you all to make your full reads from most confident to least confident.
Here’s mine:
Paopan
Porscha
CRichard
Miss Caro
MightyQ
Falcon

most to least confident:
Not Paopan
Paopan

[Gavial]

Well it would have been Him/Sig/CRichard

[Gavial]

@Paopan
@CRichard
@MightyQ
@falcon45ca
@Porscha
@Miss Carousel

I’d like to request you all to make your full reads from most confident to least confident.
Here’s mine:
Paopan
Porscha
CRichard
Miss Caro
MightyQ
Falcon

most to least confident:
Not Paopan
Paopan

No, absolutely not.

Paopan is town, I don’t believe both scum vote with me EoD1.

[Miss Carousel]

Hey does anyone know if there is anything that proves CRichard couldn’t have bussed Wilgy?

Like Wilgy joined my vote on the zero poster instead of allowing it to tie between him and CRichard.

i don't think the way wilgy voted for CR was partnered

[Miss Carousel]

@Paopan
@CRichard
@MightyQ
@falcon45ca
@Porscha
@Miss Carousel

I’d like to request you all to make your full reads from most confident to least confident.
Here’s mine:
Paopan
Porscha
CRichard
Miss Caro
MightyQ
Falcon

most to least confident:
Not Paopan
Paopan

No, absolutely not.

Paopan is town, I don’t believe both scum vote with me EoD1.

why not

[Gavial]

@Paopan
@CRichard
@MightyQ
@falcon45ca
@Porscha
@Miss Carousel

I’d like to request you all to make your full reads from most confident to least confident.
Here’s mine:
Paopan
Porscha
CRichard
Miss Caro
MightyQ
Falcon

most to least confident:
Not Paopan
Paopan

No, absolutely not.

Paopan is town, I don’t believe both scum vote with me EoD1.

why not

Because CRichard is just an absolutely better ML for them in that regard.
Paopan stays on CRichard, Wilgy votes CRichard, CRichard goes over.
So why vote the zero poster with me that doesn’t give anyone nothing?

[Gavial]

They also town told not to mention Mac literally said they were town telling as well and vibed with them.

[Gavial]

I now actually think Miss Caro is more likelier wolf then MightyQ.
I still think Falcon is most likely wolf though.

[falcon45ca]

Gav's reads are so bad, he must be town.

[Miss Carousel]

@Paopan
@CRichard
@MightyQ
@falcon45ca
@Porscha
@Miss Carousel

I’d like to request you all to make your full reads from most confident to least confident.
Here’s mine:
Paopan
Porscha
CRichard
Miss Caro
MightyQ
Falcon

most to least confident:
Not Paopan
Paopan

No, absolutely not.

Paopan is town, I don’t believe both scum vote with me EoD1.

why not

Because CRichard is just an absolutely better ML for them in that regard.
Paopan stays on CRichard, Wilgy votes CRichard, CRichard goes over.
So why vote the zero poster with me that doesn’t give anyone nothing?

killing a 0 poster (who would be blamed on you specifically) and keeping alive a player who a lot of people are scumreading is helpful for the wolves. (turns out everyone scumreading CR flipped on it.)

there's an argument for what you're saying but not enough of one to lock paopan town just because you don't think it's what the wolves would have done

[falcon45ca]

They also town told not to mention Mac literally said they were town telling as well and vibed with them.

Mac literally said that Pao is wolf

[Miss Carousel]

I now actually think Miss Caro is more likelier wolf then MightyQ.
I still think Falcon is most likely wolf though.

you desperately need to stop clinging to one read and basing the entire rest of the game around it

[Gavial]

Gav's reads are so bad, he must be town.

There’s only 1 wolf.
And I’m sure it ain’t Paopan!

[falcon45ca]

Yes they can both still be mafia.

Are they? Probably not.

Could I have a list from you that has most to least likely town?

I read Wilgy's iso and he's made an effort to spew everyone clear to some degree. He solidly kept Falcon in his townlist the entire game in spite of Falcon pushing him. Given how washed he was I would have expected him to try to spew him.

Essentially I have no idea of an order. There's still work to do.

I feel like Wilgy paid very little attention to MissC. A couple blind town reads w/o follow up or push.


Take a look and see if you notice it as well

I kinda just feel like she's town tbh. I've felt Paopan was pretty anti town most of the game.

[Gavial]

I now actually think Miss Caro is more likelier wolf then MightyQ.
I still think Falcon is most likely wolf though.

you desperately need to stop clinging to one read and basing the entire rest of the game around it

The read of which Wilgy is Wolf?

[Miss Carousel]

i swear to god it's just MightyQ and any reading of any content is a waste of our time

[Gavial]

Idk man. I’d say that’s a pretty damn good read I have

[Miss Carousel]

I now actually think Miss Caro is more likelier wolf then MightyQ.
I still think Falcon is most likely wolf though.

you desperately need to stop clinging to one read and basing the entire rest of the game around it

The read of which Wilgy is Wolf?

that paopan is lock town and immediately moving me down your list because i just said i don't think paopan's town

[falcon45ca]

Idk man. I’d say that’s a pretty damn good read I have

You actually were pretty hesitant to join the Wilgy wagon, but sure, believe whatever you want

[Gavial]

i swear to god it's just MightyQ and any reading of any content is a waste of our time

Oh I’m sure it’s probable but here’s a question, What about Falcon?
I honestly believe he is the wolf here.


You know what how about an even better question.

Paopan eliminated flips town, who’s most likely wolf?