The Molly Maguires Mafia (ENDGAME)

[EnderWiggin]

iaafr is way more obviously town than LC

Forgive me, but I've got more experience with LC and am more confident in my read of him than iaafr.

[Esooa]

ik I was just saying

[Lime Coke]

My power is unmatched.

empirically I ic myself about as hard and as often as you do but I guess in philomaf and this one you've been towned earlier and with less paranoia

Helps that I was surrounded by the EM players in Philo 2.

I'd be willing to re-look at LC later because it has been a while and it's possible he levelled up but also like, I'm 90% sure he's just town so far.

I haven't randed mafia since Buckets, so, highly doubt it.

[iaafr]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

[Kami]

Ender how do you feel about the pressure on you

Kinda meh.

I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it so I'm trying to ignore it and solve but also like half my solving is going around the pressure on me.

Thats a wolf tell btw
hoping people lose interest and move somewhere else

[Alison]

I think Kami is a wolf now.

Ender's re-entrance has been yuck. His strongest read is that I am scum for pushing him for bad reasons on page 1.

Doubling down on pushing me*

Also no, my strongest read is LC town.

LC has done nothing townie.

[Alison]

I think Kami is a wolf now.

Ender's re-entrance has been yuck. His strongest read is that I am scum for pushing him for bad reasons on page 1.

why do you think kami is a wolf

I think the whole "I refuse to solve anyone except Ender" stuff is scummy. I think the continual refusal to acknowledge *anyone's* actions as townie is scummy.

[Alison]

I think Kami is a wolf now.

Ender's re-entrance has been yuck. His strongest read is that I am scum for pushing him for bad reasons on page 1.

why do you think kami is a wolf

also another thing I'm curious about: what led to your first post being a townread of me

You had a townie entrance.

[Luckbox Inc]

I'm ready to at least attempt to start playing for real-- on a computer, headache maybe going away, with coffee, and day off tomorrow

real time interaction requested please

[Esooa]

hi

[iaafr]

hi luckbox what do you think of alisons current read of kami

[Luckbox Inc]

hi luckbox what do you think of alisons current read of kami

You should know that I've read like 10% of the posts this game and have no idea what Alison's current read of Kami is-- and for me to have an opinion on this I would need to have an opinion on Kami myself-- which I do not

wolfy question imo

[EnderWiggin]

Ender how do you feel about the pressure on you

Kinda meh.

I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it so I'm trying to ignore it and solve but also like half my solving is going around the pressure on me.

Thats a wolf tell btw
hoping people lose interest and move somewhere else

Lmao.

[Luckbox Inc]

hi

hi I like your avatar

wolves?

[Esooa]

hi

hi I like your avatar

wolves?

I dunno

[EnderWiggin]

I think Kami is a wolf now.

Ender's re-entrance has been yuck. His strongest read is that I am scum for pushing him for bad reasons on page 1.

Doubling down on pushing me*

Also no, my strongest read is LC town.

LC has done nothing townie.

Except for play into his town meta, that is.

[iaafr]

hi luckbox what do you think of alisons current read of kami

You should know that I've read like 10% of the posts this game and have no idea what Alison's current read of Kami is-- and for me to have an opinion on this I would need to have an opinion on Kami myself-- which I do not

wolfy question imo

well see if i were asked that question id look at the post like 4 posts above to read it and then id iso kami to corroborate it

im not exactly sure what realtime is good with someone who hasnt (and doesnt intend to?) backread

[EnderWiggin]

I'm ready to at least attempt to start playing for real-- on a computer, headache maybe going away, with coffee, and day off tomorrow

real time interaction requested please

Hello.

Get on quick, sale on votes on me is going fast. =P

[EnderWiggin]

hi luckbox what do you think of alisons current read of kami

You should know that I've read like 10% of the posts this game and have no idea what Alison's current read of Kami is-- and for me to have an opinion on this I would need to have an opinion on Kami myself-- which I do not

wolfy question imo

Try backreading before responding instead of snarking.

That's a fine question tbh.

[EnderWiggin]

You can also just express a lack of interest in backreading too, that's not necessarily bad.

Just don't snark unless you've explicitly said you're not backreading already

[Luckbox Inc]

hi luckbox what do you think of alisons current read of kami

You should know that I've read like 10% of the posts this game and have no idea what Alison's current read of Kami is-- and for me to have an opinion on this I would need to have an opinion on Kami myself-- which I do not

wolfy question imo

Try backreading before responding instead of snarking.

That's a fine question tbh.

You're right.

Just not sure if I'm actually ready for that unfortunately....but I think Kami is exactly the sort of person that Alison would find wolfy as a default-- since Kami's playstyle isn't exactly "pro village" in a vacuum and Alison can be super level 0 about that sort of stuff

I'll go actually look though and see what she's saying

[Luckbox Inc]

I think Kami is a wolf now.

Ender's re-entrance has been yuck. His strongest read is that I am scum for pushing him for bad reasons on page 1.

why do you think kami is a wolf

I think the whole "I refuse to solve anyone except Ender" stuff is scummy. I think the continual refusal to acknowledge *anyone's* actions as townie is scummy.

Yeah I think this is basically both of their metas perfectly. Kami seems like Kami (assuming this is true which there is no reason to doubt) and Alison's reaction is v! Alison.

[Lime Coke]

I think Kami is a wolf now.

Ender's re-entrance has been yuck. His strongest read is that I am scum for pushing him for bad reasons on page 1.

why do you think kami is a wolf

I think the whole "I refuse to solve anyone except Ender" stuff is scummy. I think the continual refusal to acknowledge *anyone's* actions as townie is scummy.

Yeah I think this is basically both of their metas perfectly. Kami seems like Kami (assuming this is true which there is no reason to doubt) and Alison's reaction is v! Alison.

Can you elaborate more on this line?

[Luckbox Inc]

I think Kami is a wolf now.

Ender's re-entrance has been yuck. His strongest read is that I am scum for pushing him for bad reasons on page 1.

why do you think kami is a wolf

I think the whole "I refuse to solve anyone except Ender" stuff is scummy. I think the continual refusal to acknowledge *anyone's* actions as townie is scummy.

Yeah I think this is basically both of their metas perfectly. Kami seems like Kami (assuming this is true which there is no reason to doubt) and Alison's reaction is v! Alison.

Can you elaborate more on this line?

Kami being like "FU I'll do what I want" is how she plays. It's probably villagery for her because as a wolf she tries to play more traditionally villagery I'm pretty sure.

[Alison]

I think Kami is a wolf now.

Ender's re-entrance has been yuck. His strongest read is that I am scum for pushing him for bad reasons on page 1.

Doubling down on pushing me*

Also no, my strongest read is LC town.

LC has done nothing townie.

Except for play into his town meta, that is.

What is his town meta and which posts did he play into that meta in?

[iaafr]

have you ever seen her play wolf? do you not fear that shes the type to project that energy as both alignments?

truth be told im sort of resisting the urge to read that post as you TMIing kami town but its tough

[EnderWiggin]

I think Kami is a wolf now.

Ender's re-entrance has been yuck. His strongest read is that I am scum for pushing him for bad reasons on page 1.

Doubling down on pushing me*

Also no, my strongest read is LC town.

LC has done nothing townie.

Except for play into his town meta, that is.

What is his town meta and which posts did he play into that meta in?

LC as wolf tends to try being a participant in discussion and plays more around interactions.

LC as town does more reads and thoughts early. More importantly as town there's a tendency towards explaining his thoughts as he goes through reads. He will try to replicate this as wolf too but generally there is a tonal difference. It's like he processes thoughts as town and tries to communicate that thought into thread.

Ex posts of him going through his thoughts so far:
Here.
And here.
And also here.

This isn't town lock.

But it is something I'm more confident in over other reads because, in all the time I've played with LC, he's never managed to properly replicate the thoughts in a way that fools me. In Buckets he sorta fooled me early but I still worked it out by D2.

Also I assume you weren't paying close attention to Buckets after you died because I explained all this there.

[MacDougall]

my first day in my new job and I don't wanna get fired

[Kami]

yeah this is how i play im right ur wrong im good ur bad

simple as that

[Kami]

have you ever seen her play wolf? do you not fear that shes the type to project that energy as both alignments?

truth be told im sort of resisting the urge to read that post as you TMIing kami town but its tough

???how would you know what is TMI and what isn't?

have you even seen me play wolf? or town?

[Esooa]

lol

[Kami]

iaafr i think ur tming

[iaafr]

have you ever seen her play wolf? do you not fear that shes the type to project that energy as both alignments?

truth be told im sort of resisting the urge to read that post as you TMIing kami town but its tough

???how would you know what is TMI and what isn't?

have you even seen me play wolf? or town?

luckbox expressing something that reads like a townread via comparison to a hypothetical wolfgame that I'm not sure he's seen

just reminds me of the way I see wolves justify correct townreads often early on

[iaafr]

iaafr i think ur tming

you problem

[Kami]

have you ever seen her play wolf? do you not fear that shes the type to project that energy as both alignments?

truth be told im sort of resisting the urge to read that post as you TMIing kami town but its tough

???how would you know what is TMI and what isn't?

have you even seen me play wolf? or town?

luckbox expressing something that reads like a townread via comparison to a hypothetical wolfgame that I'm not sure he's seen

just reminds me of the way I see wolves justify correct townreads often early on

ur being sus

[iaafr]

see previous post

[Kami]

No your purposefully acting like you don't know me and luckbox are both from 2+2 which youve played on with me along with MU

[EnderWiggin]

TMI reads early are rarely accurate ngl.

It's something I've actually been cutting from my scumhunting until some flips have been had.

[EnderWiggin]

Mostly because I've had a really bad run of getting it wrong lmao

[iaafr]

I'm not even acting like that but idk how much you've played with luckbox and how much he's seen of your scum game

also the last scum game I kind of read of yours was the mass effect game where we bussed yoloswag and then wiggles the 3p cop outed you for no reason and I barely remember your d1 demeanor there

[Kami]

ender is also in commentary mode
outted wolf

[iaafr]

TMI reads early are rarely accurate ngl.

It's something I've actually been cutting from my scumhunting until some flips have been had.

I had a good run like a year ago but I don't think I've attempted them recently

anyway inb4 I'm right on luckbox

[Kami]

I'm not even acting like that but idk how much you've played with luckbox and how much he's seen of your scum game

also the last scum game I kind of read of yours was the mass effect game where we bussed yoloswag and then wiggles the 3p cop outed you for no reason and I barely remember your d1 demeanor there

Then you also aren't reading luckbox's posts to actually solve him cause he's made it clear he knows me and my meta

[Lime Coke]

TMI reads early are rarely accurate ngl.

It's something I've actually been cutting from my scumhunting until some flips have been had.

Mostly because I've had a really bad run of getting it wrong lmao

I've been mocking attempted TMI reads since Alice tunneled me saying I had TMI on correct reads as she was wolf siding as town in the most egotistic way possible.

[iaafr]

I'm not even acting like that but idk how much you've played with luckbox and how much he's seen of your scum game

also the last scum game I kind of read of yours was the mass effect game where we bussed yoloswag and then wiggles the 3p cop outed you for no reason and I barely remember your d1 demeanor there

Then you also aren't reading luckbox's posts to actually solve him cause he's made it clear he knows me and my meta

I mean questioning the validity of his basis is just one angle

I think the structure and timing and the everything of the read feels wolfy even if he's qualified to make it

[Lime Coke]

No your purposefully acting like you don't know me and luckbox are both from 2+2 which youve played on with me along with MU

You 2 have seen each other as both alignments then?

[Luckbox Inc]

have you ever seen her play wolf? do you not fear that shes the type to project that energy as both alignments?

truth be told im sort of resisting the urge to read that post as you TMIing kami town but its tough

I've seen Kami wolf a decent amount and wolfed with her even, so yes

[Luckbox Inc]

have you ever seen her play wolf? do you not fear that shes the type to project that energy as both alignments?

truth be told im sort of resisting the urge to read that post as you TMIing kami town but its tough

???how would you know what is TMI and what isn't?

have you even seen me play wolf? or town?

luckbox expressing something that reads like a townread via comparison to a hypothetical wolfgame that I'm not sure he's seen

just reminds me of the way I see wolves justify correct townreads often early on

yeah don't know why you'd think I haven't seen a Kami wolf game

It's the Alison wolf-game that I haven't seen

[Alison]

@Luckbox Inc What's your read on me?

[iaafr]

ender what was your initial scumread of Alison based on